Hopefully the clicks are not anything to do with these guys.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/06/400602.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1310985.stm
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:28:02 +0100, you wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:31:28 +0000, laurence_taylor2001 wrote:
>
>> --- In 56solo@yahoogroups.com, Oliver Roberts <oliver@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> . . . Apparently, TalkTalk's Caller ID system is supposed to be
>>> identical to BT's, but there are some minor differences (not just the
>>> problem that I'm having).
>>>
>>> It's a strange problem because it works about 50% of the time on average
>>> with the Solo, and 90% of the time on a BT Freestyle handset. Probably
>>> everybody here knows the tell-tale "click...click" that the Solo makes
>>> directly before the phone starts to ring, and before it starts to
>>> announce the phone number. With my BT line, this was always a fixed
>>> "click...click", but with TT sometimes it doesn't click at all and as a
>>> result picks up no Caller ID at all (yet, the BT Freestyle does still
>>> display the Caller ID most of the time when this happens). . . .
>>
>> A guess is that Solos click on BT lines because of either the line
>> reversal that heads the calling line identification presentation (CLIP)
>> signal or some other big change in line voltage. Often my Solo clicks
>> when I take my handset off hook; sometimes it clicks without any call
>> coming, perhaps when a neighbour takes their phone off hook. The CLIP data
>> stream after the line reversal should not cause the clicks.
>
>Yes, I get the clicks too when taking the handset off hook, most of the time.
>Happened when I was with BT and still now I'm with TT. Regarding clicks
>without any call coming, it only seems to happen here if there are storms in
>the area or late at night (12am or so) which I had assumed was BT tests.
>
>> IIRC BT uses line reversals as part of the signalling to switch lines
>> from idle to loop states at the start of a call. This is part of the
>> prompt to our kit (e.g., Solos) to receive CLIP data. The CLIP data
>> arrive before the rings. Our kit must have programmed delays to pass the
>CLIP
>> data to our software between the first and second rings, when most comms
>> software expects. Call Waiting signals seem very similar, but there is no
>> line reversal or switching out of loop state.
>>
>> Maybe TalkTalk does without line reversals along its local loop unbundled
>> lines to signal an imminent CLIP, instead working rather like Call
>> Waiting: hence lack of clicks. TalkTalk may even send the CLIP between
>> the first and second rings, as happens over most of the world, even if
>> the CLIP otherwise follows BT protocols. This may make TalkTalk Caller ID
>unreliable
>> with a Solo, while other kit may be more tolerant, perhaps if it can also
>> receive Call Waiting signals.
>
>Maybe. It seems inconsistent. Sometimes it clicks, sometimes it doesn't.
>Likewise, with the BT Freestyle handsets, sometimes there display the Caller
>ID immediately, sometimes it doesn't show up until after 2-3 rings, or more
>rarely it doesn't show up at all. It could just be a timing issue or
>something. Then again, TT aren't exactly unknown for having Caller ID issues
>if their forums are anything to go by - earlier this year exchanges were
>given Caller ID updates.