... FM: How about: AHAT (Aquatic Human Ancestor Theory)? --Francesca ... MV: Not wrong, I guess, although "aquatic" is vaguer than "littoral";, and "human ... ...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 1, 2011 9:18 am
... Yes. I very much hope your answer to her "bipedal<-wading" arguments helps her see her problem. She's always welcome here again, of course. My problem is...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 1, 2011 9:45 am
FM: How about: AHAT (Aquatic Human Ancestor Theory)? --Francesca MV: Not wrong, I guess, although "aquatic" is vaguer than "littoral";, and "human ... FM: My...
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Empress9@...
empress999yyy
Nov 1, 2011 10:02 pm
Really sorry if Elaine has made one. Actually, she could help prove a point if she would return ;-) I'm just an interested lay person. I've gone back a few...
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Jack Barnes
needninfo
Nov 1, 2011 10:44 pm
Elaine, Thank you for the email, excellent defense of your position. Well done. It is clear that you not only understand the premise of Aaron Filler but also...
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terry
terry.turner...
Nov 2, 2011 6:51 am
We are learning that minor changes in diet or other environmental factors can cause noticeable changes in our early development and long term health. Ongoing...
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Simon
tisis44
Nov 2, 2011 7:49 am
Stephen - unfortunately, even just this interaction would demonstrate Rob's point reasonably well, i feel: EM: 1. Homo is the only mammal that habitually walks...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 2, 2011 6:55 pm
Simon, apparently you haven't read my post of 31.10.11 20:34. Please first read it. I have innumerable times answered Elaine on this, but she keeps repeating...
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Stephen Munro
smunro582000
Nov 2, 2011 10:43 pm
Hi Simon, I've been witness to these arguments for a long time now, and I can see that both Marc and Elaine get frustrated with the other because neither seems...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 3, 2011 11:47 am
Savanna theorists often (used to?) reason like this: - apes & monkeys live in forests & are QP, - humans live on the plain (i.c.savanna) & are BP, - therefore:...
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dons3148
Nov 3, 2011 12:24 pm
... Hello Rob... ... LOL ... More than just a coincidence that we lost Neu5Gc, after the gorilla louse `jumped ship' to a human host? ... This does seem to be...
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Simon
tisis44
Nov 3, 2011 12:37 pm
i would agree that people should be able to handle criticism of their ideas from others; i didn't refer to Marc's behaviour as -abusive-, either. However,...
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Simon
tisis44
Nov 3, 2011 1:07 pm
The list of arguments Elaine was making is dated and timed to 31/10/11, 02:21am on my system. The reply you made to point 1) of her list, wherein no actual...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 3, 2011 9:44 pm
Simon, see below the post I meant. Elaine's first sentence was the umpteenth repetition of her wading->BP "argumentation", which I've answered innumerable...
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Stephen Munro
smunro582000
Nov 3, 2011 10:24 pm
Hi Simon, you didn't refer to Marc as being abusive, that's true, but you said "even just this interaction would demonstrate Rob's point reasonably well", and...
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Stephen Munro
smunro582000
Nov 3, 2011 11:07 pm
Hi Marc, yes, it is a big problem that the AAT faces, because Elaine’s model is the one that opponents of the AAT tend to attack, and the basic idea that...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 4, 2011 12:17 am
... Yes, Stephen, every time I write a new paper or an answer to anti-AATers or to Elaine, I'm convinced they'll understand this time. And yes, sometimes ...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 4, 2011 12:57 am
Just read (google Major steps in the evolution of language Dieter Wunderlich 2002): "I will not dive here into the aquatic theory, which claims that between 7 ...
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Rob Dudman
rob_dudman
Nov 4, 2011 3:09 am
"Sorry if I often get carried away in discussions." Marc Verhaegen..... posted to this group 15 July 2009. That's all it took then and it's a good bet that's...
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Jack Barnes
needninfo
Nov 4, 2011 6:49 am
Elaine and the AAT is correct, but her model and focus on bipedalism is wrong. Here are the body plan steps we KNOW in primates. 1. Nocturnal primates 60++...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 4, 2011 7:54 am
Craniofacial morphology of Homo floresiensis: Description, taxonomic affinities, and evolutionary implication Yousuke Kaifu cs 2011 JHE doi...
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Simon
tisis44
Nov 4, 2011 11:35 am
Yes, i'm aware which post you were speaking of, and i made reference to it to indicate that, not only had i read it, but that i was indeed clear to which of...
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Simon
tisis44
Nov 4, 2011 11:51 am
Certainly i can understand where you're coming from; it's all about communication and clarification, all this, isn't it? And certainly i think both sides in...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 4, 2011 11:56 am
Yes, i'm aware which post you were speaking of, and i made reference to it to indicate that, not only had i read it, but that i was indeed clear to which of...
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Simon
tisis44
Nov 4, 2011 12:13 pm
"> So everyone. The AAT is correct, just an unlikely explanation to produce our bipedalism (brachiation caused this). The water likely helped us KEEP our...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 5, 2011 12:46 am
The Science Forum http://www.thescienceforum.com/ * Pseudoscience * Aquatic Ape Hypothesis View Poll Results: How valid do you consider the so-called Aquatic...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 5, 2011 1:10 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/science/fossil-teeth-put-humans-in-europe- earlier-than-thought.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1 [Non-text portions of this message...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 5, 2011 1:29 am
Elaine and the AAT is correct, but her model and focus on bipedalism is wrong. Here are the body plan steps we KNOW in primates. 1. Nocturnal primates 60++ Ma...
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Marc Verhaegen
aquape
Nov 5, 2011 2:09 am
3. Tree swingers w no tail (brachiators) leads to long spine w/ bipedalism (like gibbons) No, no: apes typically have shorter spines with less vertebrae,...
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Rob Dudman
rob_dudman
Nov 5, 2011 6:59 am
... From: dons3148 To: AAT@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:24 PM Subject: [AAT] Re: Neu5Gc (Was: Chimp the Hunter, Kills the Savanna ...
