... In my book p.87 I said: the hominoid broad thorax & lateral arms could be explained by arm-hanging & by swimming. Still nothing wrong with that IMO. ... ...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 1, 2001 8:49 am
My best wishes to all for a happy & healthy new year! --Marc...
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Kees IJpelaan
kees.ijpelaan@...
Jan 1, 2001 12:53 pm
Hello Marc, a Haapy New Year! ... No, nothing wrong. ... Thank you. ... Pottos lives very high up in the trees and are unlikely to have had their limbs and...
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Kees IJpelaan
kees.ijpelaan@...
Jan 1, 2001 6:07 pm
A few suggestion on knuckle-walking and bipedal locomotion. Terrestrial quadrupedal mammals need some protection under their limbs. Many have cushions or...
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Catherine Friedl
cfriedl@...
Jan 1, 2001 6:11 pm
... All the best to everyone for the new year!!!! Catherine (rapidly converting everyone I know to AAH!!!!)...
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Kees IJpelaan
kees.ijpelaan@...
Jan 1, 2001 6:35 pm
Marcel, Like you, Camille Arambourg seems to have been convinced that Oreopithecus bamboli was a hominid. He writes: "It thus concerns a being which is...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 1, 2001 7:43 pm
... ??? - No elastin in our perianal & perioral skin? where did you find that? - I don't think the perianal & perioral skin is much thinner than that in the...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 1, 2001 7:43 pm
... OK so far. ... I don't think so: the tail is somewhat higher up. It would not interfere with sitting IMO. When my dog is sitting, it keeps its tail not...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 1, 2001 7:43 pm
... Thanks. But apes lie down, but have to build nests. Why? ... Marc...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 1, 2001 7:43 pm
... Sloths & sloth bears. ... Sloth bears are. ... ?? please explain ... Yes, but monkeys stretch them up in a different way than hominoids. Our scapulas are...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 1, 2001 7:43 pm
... NW monkeys do of course sit. There are beautiful photos of monogamous couples of marmosets sitting next to one another. But I don't know whether marmosets...
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Kees IJpelaan
kees.ijpelaan@...
Jan 1, 2001 7:44 pm
Marc, Stupid of me not to have thought of this before, but a good source on Nasalis concolor is the following: ...
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Marcel Williams
newpapyrus@...
Jan 1, 2001 8:43 pm
... MW: William Straus also believed that Oreopithecus was a hominin (Straus, 1963, Classification of Oreopithecus in Classification in Human Evolution). ...
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Elaine Morgan
elaine@...
Jan 2, 2001 5:04 pm
... From: Marc Verhaegen <marc.verhaegen@...> To: AAT@egroups.com <AAT@egroups.com> Date: Monday, January 01, 2001 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [AAT] Re:...
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Elaine Morgan
elaine@...
Jan 2, 2001 5:17 pm
... From: Marc Verhaegen <marc.verhaegen@...> To: AAT@egroups.com <AAT@egroups.com> Date: Monday, January 01, 2001 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [AAT] Re:...
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Elaine Morgan
elaine@...
Jan 2, 2001 6:01 pm
... That's the spirit! Thanks and all best wishes Elaine...
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Elaine Morgan
elaine@...
Jan 2, 2001 6:01 pm
... From: Kees IJpelaan <kees.ijpelaan@...> To: AAT@egroups.com <AAT@egroups.com> Date: Monday, January 01, 2001 6:07 PM Subject: [AAT] Knuckle-walking ...
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Elaine Morgan
elaine@...
Jan 2, 2001 6:01 pm
... From: Marc Verhaegen <marc.verhaegen@...> To: AAT@egroups.com <AAT@egroups.com> Date: Monday, January 01, 2001 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [AAT] Re:...
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Elaine Morgan
elaine@...
Jan 2, 2001 6:02 pm
... From: Marc Verhaegen <marc.verhaegen@...> To: AAT@egroups.com <AAT@egroups.com> Date: Monday, January 01, 2001 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [AAT] Re:...
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Kees IJpelaan
kees.ijpelaan@...
Jan 2, 2001 8:28 pm
... Thank you, but the main idea was Stive's who thinks that knuckle-walking serves to protect the palms of the hands. I didn't believe it very much untill I...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 2, 2001 11:09 pm
... Note the dramatic shift from monkey to hominoid (factor 5), not explained by ground vs tree-dwelling, not by diet, not by social life. ... They don't have...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 2, 2001 11:09 pm
... Ungula=nail+claw+hoof. Both primates & phalangeroids (branch-graspers) have nails. (I guess that claws hurt when you want to grasp a branch, so you have to...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 2, 2001 11:09 pm
... Very interesting website! Thanks a lot, Kees. Marc...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 3, 2001 9:06 pm
... "already"? what came first IYO: K/W or long arms? ... Apiths have their for.magnum about as in bonobos, a bit more anteriorly than in common chimps &...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 3, 2001 9:06 pm
... No idea. The large isch.callosities have something to do with the upright sleeping position I think. Mio-Plio-Pleistocene Africa was as hot as S-America...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 3, 2001 9:06 pm
... actual ... I looked at illustrations of a few skeletons: it's nearly impossible to see: there are no soft tissues (anus) on skeletons. We need...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 3, 2001 9:06 pm
... But are you sure?? AFAICFour lips are very elastic. ... The SC fat is literally "sub cute", ie, under the skin: it begins just beyond the mucosa (red) of...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 3, 2001 9:06 pm
... The difference between smal & large animals. ... Yes, but smaller animals walk on smaller branches, so that doesn't say anything. ... That might imply that...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 3, 2001 10:37 pm
The Man Who Found the Missing Link: Eugene Dubois and His Lifelong Quest to Prove Darwin Right by Pat Shipman Hardcover - 512 pages (January 2001) Simon &...
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Marc Verhaegen
marc.verhaegen@...
Jan 3, 2001 10:37 pm
I just read N.Goren-Inbar etc.2000 Science 289:944-7: "Pleistocene milestones on the Out-of-Africa corridor at Gesher Benot Ya'aqov, Israel". Very interesting....
