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ASCOM-Talk · ASCOM Initiative Discussion List

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16180 dvandal1984 Offline Send Email Dec 1, 2008
12:41 pm
Hi, Its the first time I'm writing in ASCOM group, but I will give my opinion of what I think the driver should look like as a 24 years old programmer-analyst...
16181 andyhoutexas Offline Send Email Dec 1, 2008
2:10 pm
I'm new here and I'm having a problem opening the platform. after I download it I can't run it. it says make sure you have access to that file. I don't know...
16182 Chris Rowland
scope_sapiens Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
3:58 pm
I think that we need some input from application developers. Tim's excellent suggestion is fine but assumes that the determination that it's safe or clear to...
16183 Boyer, William
wslboyer Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
4:10 pm
Ah ... I thought the *application* was setting isSafe and sending it *to* the driver. Then the driver closes the dome shutter or whatever it's configured to...
16184 Chris Peterson
cloudbait Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
4:18 pm
Hi Chris- You cross upon a fundamental point of ASCOM philosophy here. Do applications suggest drivers, or do drivers suggest applications? I'm pretty sure...
16185 Chris Peterson
cloudbait Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
4:22 pm
The driver has access to all the sensory inputs of the hardware. It evaluates these and sets the state of IsSafe. The application then decides what to do with...
16186 Douglas B. George
maximccd Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
4:43 pm
... I think Tim's proposal is a good compromise. No *standard* weather sensor or groups of sensors is going to give you IsSafe or IsClear. You cannot get that...
16187 Douglas B. George
maximccd Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
4:53 pm
... Never mind drivers, it's very common to directly connect the Boltwood Cloud Sensor *directly* to the dome controller for emergency weather closure. ...
16188 Matt Thomas
matt_e_thomas Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
4:56 pm
... Doug touches on a good point here. This could be extended to be not a Weather/Cloud Watcher standard, but simply a "Safety" standard (for lack of a better...
16189 John Smith
mosmith9 Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
5:18 pm
All ASCOM interfaces to date have been COM-based, presumably for immediacy of response (measured in msec. for example) I would like to propose a different...
16190 Bob Denny
dc3dreamer Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
5:22 pm
Thank you!!!!! Should I post this to the ASCOM Download site and remove it from the group files? I am trying to have the "current" or "official" files ...
16191 Tim Long
t_p_long Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
5:22 pm
How would you expect your application to respond to the "unknown" condition? Tim Long, Owner & Technology Consultant TiGra Networks - The Small Business IT...
16192 Matt Thomas
matt_e_thomas Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
5:26 pm
Well, the idea was to have a mechanism to ignore the value. A CanXXX mechanism would work here too. -Matt Thomas http://www.astromatt.com/ CCD Commander:...
16193 Mark Crossley
crossley_mark Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
5:31 pm
Bob Yep, feel free to delete it from the files area once you have a copy. Mark 2008/12/1 Bob Denny <rdenny@...>...
16194 Bob Denny
dc3dreamer Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
6:39 pm
... Then the interface should be called *WeatherAndAnythingElseYouWant*? That's just "authorized and dynamic" feature creep. Hey app developer: "Do you support...
16195 Robert
robt2112 Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
6:41 pm
To find a place to start I was thinking that the functionality should be a standard way to get sensor data from the weather devices to applications that want...
16196 Chris Rowland
scope_sapiens Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
6:53 pm
Thanks Doug, an application perspective! It's clear that what applications want is a safety interface, to signal what the safety device has decided to do. I...
16197 Chris Peterson
cloudbait Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
7:00 pm
The problem, as I see it, is that astronomy applications are an unlikely place to analyze weather inputs and determine if conditions are "clear" or "safe"....
16198 Matt Thomas
matt_e_thomas Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
7:01 pm
John, The COM mechanism is the heart of ASCOM - not just for response time. I think it is beyond the scope of ASCOM to change the COM portion of the interface...
16199 mark301066 Offline Send Email Dec 1, 2008
7:04 pm
Hi Andrew Well I'm stupid, blind or both. I've downloaded beta 3.0 of MyScope and CANNOT see a "Setup Status" tab. I think I've looked everywhere to no avail. ...
16200 Bob Denny
dc3dreamer Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
7:21 pm
... That would be me for one! I will now speak as the developer of the application suite ACP Observatory Software. And I speak of Weather-related things, since...
16201 Robert
robt2112 Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
7:25 pm
Chris, Sorry it was just a choice of words. Better to say a standard interface to get information from a cloud/weather application to the software that wants...
16202 John Smith
mosmith9 Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
7:29 pm
Matt, If ASCOM is strictly tied to COM, then I agree that a broader interface definition is "out of bounds". If that is the case, then I'll keep quiet, ...
16203 John Smith
mosmith9 Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
7:38 pm
Bob, " My main concern is "Is it safe to be open?" or conversely "When should I stop observing and close up?". That is the key issue, I guess. Whether the...
16204 Chris Peterson
cloudbait Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
7:47 pm
Ah, but the driver can provide endless opportunity for the user to define the range of safety, as well as the range of acceptable imaging conditions. Just...
16205 Douglas B. George
maximccd Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
7:51 pm
... I disagree. I view these as simple Data Acquisition ports. Whether they are weather or not. ;-) ... I don't see this as an issue. There will be a "base...
16206 John Smith
mosmith9 Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
8:19 pm
Surely the user can configure the driver but just as surely, the application can configure the situation. Consider for example an ASCOM camera driver. While...
16207 Chris Rowland
scope_sapiens Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
8:19 pm
With data binding it's entirely possible for an application to adjust to any set of parameters defined in a Collection. A new sensor appears, it's added to the...
16208 Tim Long
t_p_long Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
8:28 pm
Text files are not well suited for realtime interprocess communication, for various reasons. There are all sorts of race conditions and file locking scenarios...
16209 Chris Peterson
cloudbait Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2008
8:50 pm
It does make sense for a camera control application to manage basic camera setting like binning. After all, that's the purpose of the application. But I think...
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