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18814 Bec à Fuel
becafuel Offline Send Email
Nov 1, 2009
8:12 am
Driver can have some internal variables (saved in the profile store, for example) that memorize the state of the mount when the park command is issued. Also, I...
18815 Tim Long
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Nov 1, 2009
1:53 pm
The telescope spec clearly states "The state of Tracking after unparking is undetermined.". It's not really possible to enforce any particular startup...
18816 Chris Peterson
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Nov 1, 2009
1:59 pm
There are, of course, a variety of ways of _physically_ storing the state of a device when it was disconnected from an ASCOM driver. The problem is that there...
18817 Chuck Faranda
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Nov 1, 2009
2:21 pm
The issue is parking and unparking not tracking, should the client unpark a mount without the decision being made by the user, simple, yes? Regards, Chuck...
18818 Chris Peterson
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Nov 1, 2009
2:39 pm
Hi Chuck- This was all hashed over a few years back, in developing the Telescope V2 standard. The reason the state is undefined is because the range of ...
18819 Bec à Fuel
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Nov 1, 2009
2:49 pm
... You're right about the manual changes between sessions, but it's not directly related to Ascom or the driver. It's the same with everything else, in fact....
18820 Chuck Faranda
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Nov 1, 2009
2:55 pm
Thanks for the info Chris. So, remarks in the V2 docs 'Applications must check and change Tracking as needed after unparking.' and 'In V2, setting the...
18821 rbethman
rbethman1 Offline Send Email
Nov 1, 2009
2:59 pm
Christophe, Even what you propose as "wouldn't hurt, to me.", violates the reality of "some" mounts. I believe the Paramount is one in particular. It has One...
18822 Bec à Fuel
becafuel Offline Send Email
Nov 1, 2009
3:19 pm
... As I don't have this mount, I don't know how it works, hence my following question : can this mount be controlled "manually" ? I mean with some kind of...
18823 Chris Peterson
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Nov 1, 2009
3:19 pm
I think it means that a driver writer can decide whether to unpark on connect or not. A client can make no assumptions about the park state or the tracking...
18824 rbethman
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Nov 1, 2009
3:22 pm
This particular mount I do not have. The behavior of the mount is controlled by its software, and its firmware. This is the Software Bisque Mount and...
18825 tom@...
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Nov 1, 2009
3:40 pm
Christophe Don't know about the Paramount, but the Gemini by Losmandy starts tracking on connect. That is in the software in the mount. My old CGE started...
18826 Chuck Faranda
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Nov 1, 2009
3:45 pm
Regardless of all the discussion on this subject 2 years ago, I feel it's not resolved. I will certainly understand if some choose not to participate for fear...
18827 rbethman
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Nov 1, 2009
3:54 pm
Then there is the issue as to whether there is RAM in the mount to store these settings, or whether there is a guarantee that the same computer is used to...
18828 Chris Peterson
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Nov 1, 2009
4:01 pm
I guess my question to you would be: what would you suggest change? Some mounts MUST be unparked on connect, some mounts it is optional. So should the standard...
18829 Chuck Faranda
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Nov 1, 2009
4:27 pm
I believe that letting the mount's driver decide what happens would be the purest way to deal with the numerous ways unparking can be finagled. Regards, Chuck...
18830 rbethman
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Nov 1, 2009
4:30 pm
This is where the contention developed during V2 specification development. Bob Denny just about sold his soul to get access to the TeleAPI DLL from Software...
18831 Chris Rowland
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Nov 1, 2009
5:08 pm
Would it be better if a driver ONLY implemented Park, Setpark and Unpark if this was a function of the underlying scope hardware? A driver would not finangle...
18832 Chris Peterson
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Nov 1, 2009
5:11 pm
So your concern is that a driver that is essentially a hub, because it should just be passing commands through to a specific telescope driver, is what is...
18833 rbethman
rbethman1 Offline Send Email
Nov 1, 2009
6:13 pm
I hope this will work. It appears that this information, under the "Important" banner, says how V2 *is* supposed to be. This is extracted from the...
18834 Bob Denny
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Nov 1, 2009
6:33 pm
... Sorry guys I have been at the AIC Conference with little bandwidth for other things... I can't recall the line of thinking/discussion that led me to make...
18835 Tim Long
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Nov 1, 2009
10:42 pm
Hang on a minute, badly behaved clients don't make the standard bad, it makes the clients bad. --Tim From: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com...
18836 Tim Long
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Nov 1, 2009
10:57 pm
Chris, that's confusing. TeleAPI _is_ an ASCOM client. TeleAPI is an adapter (matches interfaces from two different systems). From the Bisque end of the...
18837 orlandovarela3 Offline Send Email Nov 1, 2009
11:21 pm
Hi all, After Update the ASCOM Platform from 5.0a to 5.5, the Celestron Driver, stopped. My OS is Vista Home Premium 64 bit. Please any idea o suggestion. ...
18838 Chuck Faranda
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Nov 1, 2009
11:22 pm
I not saying they are bad or good, I just don't think there is a clearly defined standard, so. they behave differently. Regards, Chuck Faranda ...
18839 Bob Denny
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Nov 1, 2009
11:26 pm
... A client. Effectively, it is determining the behavior of TheSky when TheSky connects to an ASCOM Telescope driver instead of using its own internal ...
18840 Chuck Faranda
cfaranda24 Offline Send Email
Nov 1, 2009
11:29 pm
Bob, If a mount was parked and the client disconnect then reconnected a time later what should be the expectation of a reasonable end user? My thought is that...
18841 Chuck Faranda
cfaranda24 Offline Send Email
Nov 1, 2009
11:31 pm
Yes Bob, some users may have mount/roof collision issues, so, they may choose not to unpark on connection if their mount driver allows for that. Regards, Chuck...
18842 Bob Denny
dc3dreamer Offline Send Email
Nov 1, 2009
11:35 pm
This has gone very far astray. TeleAPI screws into the side of TheSky, making TheSky able co use ASCOM drivers. [TheSky-TeleAPI]--->[Telescope Driver]---> etc....
18843 Chuck Faranda
cfaranda24 Offline Send Email
Nov 1, 2009
11:40 pm
Finagled was a poor word choice. All I'm saying is that clients should not assume the user wants to unpark especially since (as I already stated) the V2 spec...
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