Rob, I think you may have some wrong version of a DLL somewhere (THIS is why I strongly discourage manual installation of DLLs). I can build a solution just fine without ever referencing the interfaces DLL, which doesn’t exist on my system. Even when I reference DriverAccess.
Rob, I can see why you might think that – I just had the same error message myself. But what you actually need to reference is the “ASCOM Master Interfaces for COM and .NET” from the COM tab. It works. There’s no DLL needed.
I’m not sure that we have documented this anywhere, despite Peter’s herculean efforts updating the developer documentation in Platform 5.5.1, the driver templates of course have this already wired up, so it’s never a problem.
So the best I can offer is: “Reference the Interfaces component in the COM tab”. Please don’t manually copy DLLs anywhere, that’s just masking the real issue.
--Tim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASCOM-
> Talk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of robt2112
> Sent: 01 July 2010 21:32
> To: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASCOM] Re: Creating Instance to ASCOM driver in .NET
>
> Well unfortunately if you try to develop with platform 5.5 it doesnt work
> unless you have the dll. Visual Studio complains that you must add a
> reference to ASCOM.Interfaces when you add DriverAcess. The message the
> interface are defined in ASCOM.Interfaces and must be referenced in the
> project.
>
> The only way to actually develop in .NET with platform 5.5 is to include the
> ghost ASCOM.Interfaces.dll. Now also if you look in the GAC
> ASCOM.Interfaces.dll is registered, but there is no actual file. Look at
> windows/assembly you will see ASCOM.Interfaces and the Original Filename
> property points to ASCOM.Interfaces.dll. This file exists nowhere on the
> system.
>
> So in platform 5.5 dependencies in SVN the mystery dll is there and is part of
> the dependent assemblies. So without it you can't develop a driver. So if you
> want to see further put visual studio express in your clean vm and try to write
> a .NET driver that references one of the interfaces.
>
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
> --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Long" <Tim@...> wrote:
> >
> > OK, let me try this one more time. I have double checked all of this
> > and I am 100% certain this is accurate. Let me be clear that I am
> > talking about the RELEASED platform 5.5 and not anything that came
> > from subversion.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > There is no assembly called ASCOM.Interfaces.dll1 in Platform 5.5, it
> > should not be in your filesystem anywhere2,3.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The ASCOM Interfaces are COM objects and are obtained from the COM
> tab
> > in the references dialog. You'll note that what you are actually
> > referencing is the type library, thus:
> >
> >
> >
> > There is no bug, there should be no DLL file.
> >
> >
> >
> > OK, now for the footnotes J
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > 1 In fact, technically the interfaces are defined in a special type of
> > .NET assembly - a Primary Interop Assembly - which is created by
> > importing the type library (.tlb) file, is installed in the GAC (not
> > the
> > filesystem) and is given special treatment by visual studio. For all
> > intents and purposes, it appears to be a COM object in Visual Studio
> > and that's how you should reference it.
> >
> > 2 In fact, items in the GAC are also in the filesystem, but their
> > location is obfuscated and direct access is verboten. If you examine
> > the folder c:\windows\assembly (in Windows Explorer) you'll see that
> > the assembly is indeed listed:
> >
> > However, all it contains is a thin veneer of metadata that makes
> > IntelliSense work properly. The actual interfaces are defined in the
> > type library, which in turn is generated from an IDL file.
> >
> > 3 If you've checked out the code base from Subversion, then you'll
> > have the DLL file in your filesystem - but I'm ignoring that situation
> > because it's fairly uncommon for end users at the moment.
> >
> >
> >
> > --Tim
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > From: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASCOM-
> >
> > > Talk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of robt2112
> >
> > > Sent: 01 July 2010 20:18
> >
> > > To: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > Subject: [ASCOM] Re: Creating Instance to ASCOM driver in .NET
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The related issue then is if it is not there then you cant reference
> > the
> >
> > > interfaces in Visual Studio. It doesn't exist anywhere searching the
> > entire c
> >
> > > drive of the VM. The file is required for development in Visual
> > Studio.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Robert
> >
> > >
> >
> > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > , "Tim Long" <Tim@ <mailto:Tim@> > wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > I wouldn't necessarily expect it to be there. Let me try the same
> >
> > > > thing myself and I'll get back to you.
> >
> > > > --Tim
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > > > From: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASCOM-
> >
> > > > > Talk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of robt2112
> >
> > > > > Sent: 01 July 2010 18:06
> >
> > > > > To: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > > Subject: [ASCOM] Re: Creating Instance to ASCOM driver in .NET
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Just for completeness of testing this issue I started a VM with
> > win
> >
> > > > xp. Never
> >
> > > > > had anything ascom related. Installed 5.0b. The C:\Program
> >
> > > > Files\Common
> >
> > > > > Files\ASCOM\.net is created with just the .vsi template in it.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Install 5.5.1 update. The following is the contents of the .net
> >
> > > > > folder
> >
> > > > after
> >
> > > > > install. ASCOM.Interfaces.dll is missing.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Robert
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Directory of C:\Program Files\Common Files\ASCOM\.net
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > 7/01/2010 01:02 PM <DIR> .
> >
> > > > > 7/01/2010 01:02 PM <DIR> ..
> >
> > > > > 1/21/2009 11:30 PM 523,264 ASCOM Diagnostics.exe
> >
> > > > > 1/21/2009 11:30 PM 212,480 ASCOM Diagnostics.pdb
> >
> > > > > 1/24/2009 09:50 PM 540,160 ASCOM.Astrometry.dll
> >
> > > > > 1/24/2009 09:50 PM 249,344 ASCOM.Astrometry.pdb
> >
> > > > > 7/01/2010 01:02 PM 28,824 ASCOM.Astrometry.tlb
> >
> > > > > 1/24/2009 09:50 PM 247,602 ASCOM.Astrometry.xml
> >
> > > > > 1/24/2009 09:49 PM 5,632 ASCOM.Attributes.dll
> >
> > > > > 1/24/2009 09:49 PM 13,824 ASCOM.Attributes.pdb
> >
> > > > > 7/10/2008 02:21 PM 53,248 ASCOM.DriverAccess.dll
> >
> > > > > 7/10/2008 02:21 PM 105,984 ASCOM.DriverAccess.pdb
> >
> > > > > 7/10/2008 02:21 PM 105,045 ASCOM.DriverAccess.XML
> >
> > > > > 1/20/2009 08:24 AM 9,216 ASCOM.Exceptions.dll
> >
> > > > > 1/20/2009 08:24 AM 21,933 ASCOM.Exceptions.XML
> >
> > > > > 8/01/2009 04:33 PM 125,783 ASCOM.ico
> >
> > > > > 1/20/2009 08:24 AM 14,336 ASCOM.IConform.dll
> >
> > > > > 1/20/2009 08:24 AM 34,304 ASCOM.IConform.pdb
> >
> > > > > 7/01/2010 01:02 PM 3,808 ASCOM.IConform.tlb
> >
> > > > > 1/20/2009 08:24 AM 9,589 ASCOM.IConform.xml
> >
> > > > > 1/24/2009 09:49 PM 251,392 ASCOM.Utilities.dll
> >
> > > > > 1/24/2009 09:49 PM 214,528 ASCOM.Utilities.pdb
> >
> > > > > 7/01/2010 01:02 PM 21,216 ASCOM.Utilities.tlb
> >
> > > > > 1/24/2009 09:49 PM 171,112 ASCOM.Utilities.xml
> >
> > > > > 1/17/2009 06:28 PM 397,566 ASCOMDriverTemplates.vsi
> >
> > > > > 4/15/2009 11:58 PM 489 driveraccess.config
> >
> > > > > 1/20/2009 08:25 AM 12,288 FusionLib.dll
> >
> > > > > 1/20/2009 08:25 AM 15,872 FusionLib.pdb
> >
> > > > > 1/20/2009 08:25 AM 15,360 GACInstall.exe
> >
> > > > > 8/01/2009 04:33 PM 37,376 NOVAS-C.dll
> >
> > > > > 8/01/2009 04:33 PM 207,872 NOVAS-C.pdb
> >
> > > > > 8/01/2009 04:33 PM 52,224 NOVAS-C64.dll
> >
> > > > > 8/01/2009 04:33 PM 199,680 NOVAS-C64.pdb
> >
> > > > > 4/15/2009 11:58 PM 3,072
> >
> > > > policy.1.0.ASCOM.DriverAccess.dll
> >
> > > > > 1/17/2009 09:10 AM 3,584
> > policy.5.5.ASCOM.Astrometry.dll
> >
> > > > > 1/17/2009 09:10 AM 3,584
> > policy.5.5.ASCOM.Utilities.dll
> >
> > > > > 1/17/2009 09:10 AM 741 PublisherPolicy.xml
> >
> > > > > 9/23/2009 10:13 PM 683 ReadMe55.txt
> >
> > > > > 36 File(s) 3,913,015 bytes
> >
> > > > > 2 Dir(s) 80,084,582,400 bytes free
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > :\Program Files\Common Files\ASCOM\.net>
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> , "robt2112" <robt2112@>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > This was a fresh computer nothing installed. 5.0b first then
> >
> > > > > > update
> >
> > > > to 5.5.1.
> >
> > > > > The COM interfaces were installed with the tlb file in the ASCOM
> >
> > > > folder. The
> >
> > > > > .net dll was missing in the .net folder.
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > Robert
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> , "Tim Long" <Tim@> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > I find it hard to believe that the problem is what you say
> > > > > > > it
> > is.
> >
> > > > > > > The interfaces PIA is so fundamental to ASCOM that we would
> > have
> >
> > > > > > > caught that a long time ago. Can we please be clear about
> >
> > > > > > > version numbers - when you say "the installer" which version
> > are
> >
> > > > > > > you
> >
> > > > talking
> >
> > > > > about?
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > To get ASCOM 5.5.1 you must first install 5.0a or 5.0b (not
> > both).
> >
> > > > > > > The 5.0a/b installer includes and installs the interfaces
> > > > > > > PIA
> > in
> >
> > > > the
> >
> > > > > > > GAC, I am 100% certain that works correctly because it has
> > been
> >
> > > > > > > tested to death on many different systems, by all the ASCOM
> >
> > > > > > > developers and beta testers and on many end user systems.
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Something about this incident doesn't make sense. I would
> > > > > > > like
> >
> > > > > > > to get to the bottom of it, but I don't think it is a bug in
> > the
> >
> > > > installer.
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> >
> > > > > > > --Tim Long
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > > > > > From: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASCOM-
> >
> > > > > Talk@yahoogroups.com]
> >
> > > > > > > On Behalf Of robt2112
> >
> > > > > > > Sent: 01 July 2010 14:57
> >
> > > > > > > To: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > > > > Subject: [ASCOM] Re: Creating Instance to ASCOM driver in
> > > > > > > .NET
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > This was just a verification that it is a bug in the
> > installer.
> >
> > > > The
> >
> > > > > > > file should have been installed. I verified that the file
> > > > > > > was
> >
> > > > > > > missing and that putting the file in place solves the problem.
> >
> > > > This
> >
> > > > > > > should be fixed in the installation.
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Robert
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> , "Tim Long" <Tim@> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > If you do that... you're on your own! We've got to be very
> >
> > > > careful
> >
> > > > > > > about
> >
> > > > > > > > letting users do stuff like that because it will create
> >
> > > > confusion
> >
> > > > > > > > and
> >
> > > > > > > a
> >
> > > > > > > > support nightmare.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > ASCOM interfaces is (currently) a COM object that lives in
> > the
> >
> > > > > > > > GAC. It should be installed by the platform installer and
> >
> > > > > > > > referenced from the COM tab of the references dialog.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > --Tim
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > > > > > > From: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > > > > > [mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com]
> >
> > > > > > > On
> >
> > > > > > > > Behalf Of robt2112
> >
> > > > > > > > Sent: 01 July 2010 02:20
> >
> > > > > > > > To: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > > > > > Subject: [ASCOM] Re: Creating Instance to ASCOM driver in
> > .NET
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > Well... If I copy the dll from my svn download to common
> >
> > > > > > > > files\ascom\.net then it shows up on my .NET references
> > > > > > > > tab
> > in
> >
> > > > VS.
> >
> > > > > > > > So
> >
> > > > > > > I
> >
> > > > > > > > think the problem is the dll is not included in the install.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > Robert
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> , "robt2112" <robt2112@>
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > Yes in windows\assembly it shows ASCOM.Interfaces that
> >
> > > > > > > > > points
> >
> > > > to
> >
> > > > > > > > ASCOM.Interfaces.dll. The only thing that shows up in
> > > > > > > > Visual
> >
> > > > > > > > Studio is
> >
> > > > > > > a
> >
> > > > > > > > reference in COM to the tlb located in Program
> > > > > > > > Files\Common
> >
> > > > > > > > Files\ASCOM\Interfaces.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > I do have a copy of the dll in the Platform Dependancies
> >
> > > > folder
> >
> > > > > > > > > of
> >
> > > > > > > the
> >
> > > > > > > > ASCOM platform Drivers and Simulators that I downloaded
> > > > > > > > from
> >
> > > > SVN.
> >
> > > > > > > > The dll doesn't seem to get installed with the platform
> > install.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > Robert
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> , "paulkccd" <yh@> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > As far as I can tell, platform 5 installs
> >
> > > > ASCOM.Interface.dll
> >
> > > > > > > > > > in
> >
> > > > > > > > GAC, not in Common Files\ASCOM. Check Windows\Assembly
> >
> > > folder
> >
> > > > > > > > to see
> >
> > > > > > > if
> >
> > > > > > > > it's there.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > -Paul
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> , "robt2112"
> >
> > > <robt2112@>
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Slight correction. I installed Platform 5.0b then
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > updated
> >
> > > > to
> >
> > > > > > > > 5.5.1. Both show installed in programs and features.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Robert
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> , "robt2112"
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > <robt2112@>
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well I think what is wrong is the installer for
> > 5.5.1.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > This is
> >
> > > > > > > a
> >
> > > > > > > > brand new install. I havent installed any previous
> > > > > > > > versions
> >
> > > > which
> >
> > > > > > > > are not available on the website. I just installed the
> > latest
> >
> > > > > > > > version. The Interfaces dll was not installed.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I believe if you had installed a previous platform
> >
> > > > version
> >
> > > > > > > that
> >
> > > > > > > > dll would be there. Since I installed fresh it didn't get
> > > > > > > > on
> >
> > > > > > > > my
> >
> > > > > > > machine.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Robert
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> , "Tim Long" <Tim@>
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm assuming you have .NET 3.5 and ASCOM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Platform
> > 5.5.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul is correct that it's a .NET assembly, but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > is
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > also a
> >
> > > > > > > > COM Primary
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Interop Assembly (PIA) so (confusingly) it show
> > > > > > > > > > > > > up
> >
> > > > under
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> >
> > > > > > > > COM tab as
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > shown here:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So reference that, and also from the .NET tab,
> > bring
> >
> > > > in
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ASCOM.DriverAccess namespace thus:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Your project's references would then look
> > something
> >
> > > > like
> >
> > > > > > > this
> >
> > > > > > > > (I'm using
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > C# in VS2010, yours may appear differently):
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Then in visual studio, you can use some code
> > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > this to
> >
> > > > > > > > test:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > using System;
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > using ASCOM.DriverAccess;
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > namespace ConsoleApplication1
> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > {
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > class Program
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > static void Main(string[] args)
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > {
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > var userChoice =
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Telescope.Choose(String.Empty);
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > var scope = new
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Telescope(userChoice);
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > scope.Connected = true;
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > scope.Park();
> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > scope.Connected = false;
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > scope.Dispose();
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > scope = null;
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This code does work, I just ran it. If you can't
> > get
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > this to
> >
> > > > > > > > work, then
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > something is badly wrong and needs sorting out.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --Tim
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:ASCOM-
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Talk@yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of robt2112
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: 30 June 2010 20:53
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [ASCOM] Re: Creating Instance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASCOM
> >
> > > > driver
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> >
> > > > > > > > .NET
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It should be, but its not on my .NET assembly
> > tab
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> >
> > > > > > > visual
> >
> > > > > > > > studio. I
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > only see it
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the COM tab. Looks like the install didnt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > register
> >
> > > > > > > > something.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > new Win7 machine with a brand new ASCOM install.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > > > > > > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > , "paulkccd" <yh@ <mailto:yh@ <mailto:yh@> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASCOM.Interfaces is a .NET assembly, not COM.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can
> >
> > > > > > > add
> >
> > > > > > > > a
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > reference
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to it from the .NET tab in Visual Studio Add
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > References
> >
> > > > > > > > dialog.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Paul
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> > , "robt2112"
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <robt2112@>
> >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is what I was trying. I cant get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > access
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> >
> > > > > > > > ITelescope. I
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > added a
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > reference to DriverAccess and it complained
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> >
> > > > > > > > interfaces were
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > defined
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in ASCOM.Interfaces. I added that reference
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> >
> > > > COM,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> >
> > > > > > > > dont see a
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > .NET
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > version. When I try to use ASCOM.ITelescope it
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > complains
> >
> > > > > > > it
> >
> > > > > > > > doesn't
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > exist.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It won't let you create an instance with
> > Type
> >
> > > > > > > Telescope.
> >
> > > > > > > > It says I
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > must use
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ITelescope.
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> > , "paulkccd"
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <yh@>
> >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is how I'd do it in C#:
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ITelescope g;
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > (ITelescope)Activator.CreateInstance(Type.GetTypeFromProgID("ASC
> > > > > OM
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iTelescope.Telescope"));
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > g.Connected = true;
> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> > , "paulkccd"
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <yh@>
> >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob, what error do you get? Here's
> > sample
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VB.Net
> >
> > > > > > > > code I sent
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gemini
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > user:
> >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dim g As ASCOM.Interface.ITelescope g
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASCOM-Talk@yahoogroups.com> > , "robt2112"
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > robt2112@
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> > > > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So this is basic question. How do I
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > access and
> >
> > > > > > > use
> >
> > > > > > > > an ASCOM
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .NET code. I keep running into cant
> > create
> >
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> > > > > > > > that
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > For more information see
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://ASCOM-Standards.org/
> > <http://ASCOM-Standards.org/>
> >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://ASCOM-Standards.org/
> > <http://ASCOM-Standards.org/> > .
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> > > > > > > For more information see http://ASCOM-Standards.org/
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