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Likewise, Here at our office, TDD is initially being seen as a productivity hindrance - too much rework, allowance for errors. In lieu of this, there is some...
slbrook
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May 4, 2005
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I think you have to use TDD and refactoring and pairing and incremental development of business value to start seeing benefits. One of the major benefits of...
Bret Pettichord
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May 4, 2005
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Also, be sure you differentiate the different parts of TDD ... - having unit tests as part of the app - writing the unit tests before you write the app code...
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May 4, 2005
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Agreed. One of the hardest selling points I've had to make with TDD is that while there is an increase in up-front development time, it pays off in decreased...
Mike Pillittere
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May 4, 2005
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Actually i don't think TDD slows up-front development. It's *learning* TDD that slows things down. Once developers learn TDD well, they stick with it because...
Bret Pettichord
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May 4, 2005
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I don't know about any hard statistical evidence, but my experience has been increasingly positive. Brett's comment about learning TDD being difficult is...
jeremydmiller
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May 4, 2005
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... If you're writing generator directives on functional code that you already have in order to generate tests for this code, you couldn't possibly be doing...
Scott Bellware
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May 4, 2005
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... This hs been my experience as well. Every now and then I try to delude myself into believing that I can make up some time by relaxing on the TDD, but the...
Scott Bellware
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May 4, 2005
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Hey guys, are we going to have lunch next wednesday? Also, I can book a room at the Dell parmer campus for a presentation. I just need to know a date and...
Jeffrey Palermo
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May 6, 2005
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At this point next Wednesday works for me. Any time 11:30-1:30 would work. _____ From: AgileATX@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AgileATX@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of...
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May 6, 2005
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Jeff, Count me in! See you there! Mike __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. ...
Mike Pillittere
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May 6, 2005
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For the moment, I can probably make it also!!! Assuming no one invents another meeting for me... Jeff Smith...
Jeff Smith
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May 6, 2005
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I'm definitely up for it. Having a bunch of white boards would be nice. Any ideas for topics? If nothing else, Steve Donie and I could do CruiseControl.NET,...
jeremydmiller
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May 6, 2005
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Yup, I'm in. _____ From: AgileATX@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AgileATX@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jeremydmiller Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:57 AM To:...
Steve Donie
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May 6, 2005
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Chris Hassa and Peter Zahoran of TechTalk will be hosting a free workshop on Object-Relational Mapping in Austin at the Embassy Suites (Austin Arboretum) on...
Scott Bellware
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May 10, 2005
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More food and agile development today at the Mongolian BBQ at North Lamar & Rundberg (http://tinyurl.com/4ls9p). Wednesday, May 11, 11:30 AM 9200 N Lamar Blvd...
Scott Bellware
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May 11, 2005
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Is it definitely at the Mongolian BBQ? Jeffrey had said he had a conference room at Dell for this. BBQ sounds awfully good right now, though....
jeremydmiller
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May 11, 2005
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... The conference room is for the CI presentation. The presentation date isn't nailed down yet as far as I know. -Scott...
Scott Bellware
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May 11, 2005
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Good deal then. I put together a local configuration of CC.NET, but don't have much for slides yet. ... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? ...
Jeremy D. Miller
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May 11, 2005
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Cool. Let's nail down the presentation details at lunch. -s...
Scott Bellware
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May 11, 2005
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Could be interesting. Could be a setup. ... _____________________ Bret Pettichord www.pettichord.com...
Bret Pettichord
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May 11, 2005
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Bret Pettichord wrote ... Then I guess we'll need to be there in force! :) Jeff Smith, the leader of that group is really agile friendly, and also heavyweight...
Scott Bellware
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May 11, 2005
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Yeah - its actually the brainchild of our program manager - a true experiment - we actually are curious as well. Who knows what the outcome will be, but I...
Jeff Smith
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May 11, 2005
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Guys, I've reserved a room for Wed, May 25th, and I have a project reserved. I have a room for 10, but with more chairs, it _could_ fit 20. All the really...
Jeffrey Palermo
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May 12, 2005
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For those that weren't at Mongolian BBQ yesterday, what we are planning is a brown bad lunch presentation. We'll all chip in for pizza, and Jeremy Miller ...
Steve Donie
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May 12, 2005
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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the AgileATX group: Will you be at the presentation brown bag? o I'll be there _with_ my pizza money o...
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May 13, 2005
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I've created a poll to get an accurate count of who's attending. Please log your answer in the poll. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AgileATX/polls Best regards,...
Jeffrey Palermo
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May 13, 2005
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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the AgileATX group: What topic shall we cover? Read for about each: <a ...
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My company (http://www.DataCert.com) has an opening for a senior tester in our Austin office. We're hoping to find a tester with familiarity with agile...
jeremydmiller
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May 17, 2005
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The theme of the current issue of IEEE Software journal http://csdl.computer.org/comp/mags/so/2005/03/s3toc.htm is Agile development. Hongjun...
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