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62		slbrook	May 4, 2005 3:33 pm
	Likewise, Here at our office, TDD is initially being seen as a productivity hindrance - too much rework, allowance for errors. In lieu of this, there is some...
63		Bret Pettichord bpettichord	May 4, 2005 4:03 pm
	I think you have to use TDD and refactoring and pairing and incremental development of business value to start seeing benefits. One of the major benefits of...
64		Steve xmlguy66	May 4, 2005 4:09 pm
	Also, be sure you differentiate the different parts of TDD ... - having unit tests as part of the app - writing the unit tests before you write the app code...
65		Mike Pillittere Mike_Pillittere	May 4, 2005 4:16 pm
	Agreed. One of the hardest selling points I've had to make with TDD is that while there is an increase in up-front development time, it pays off in decreased...
66		Bret Pettichord bpettichord	May 4, 2005 5:08 pm
	Actually i don't think TDD slows up-front development. It's learning TDD that slows things down. Once developers learn TDD well, they stick with it because...
67		jeremydmiller	May 4, 2005 7:43 pm
	I don't know about any hard statistical evidence, but my experience has been increasingly positive. Brett's comment about learning TDD being difficult is...
68		Scott Bellware sbellware	May 4, 2005 8:14 pm
	... If you're writing generator directives on functional code that you already have in order to generate tests for this code, you couldn't possibly be doing...
69		Scott Bellware sbellware	May 4, 2005 8:20 pm
	... This hs been my experience as well. Every now and then I try to delude myself into believing that I can make up some time by relaxing on the TDD, but the...
70		Jeffrey Palermo jeffreypalermo	May 6, 2005 3:42 pm
	Hey guys, are we going to have lunch next wednesday? Also, I can book a room at the Dell parmer campus for a presentation. I just need to know a date and...
71		p phredtalkpoi...	May 6, 2005 3:45 pm
	At this point next Wednesday works for me. Any time 11:30-1:30 would work. _____ From: AgileATX@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AgileATX@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of...
72		Mike Pillittere Mike_Pillittere	May 6, 2005 4:12 pm
	Jeff, Count me in! See you there! Mike __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. ...
73		Jeff Smith lostvisionary	May 6, 2005 4:46 pm
	For the moment, I can probably make it also!!! Assuming no one invents another meeting for me... Jeff Smith...
74		jeremydmiller	May 6, 2005 4:57 pm
	I'm definitely up for it. Having a bunch of white boards would be nice. Any ideas for topics? If nothing else, Steve Donie and I could do CruiseControl.NET,...
75		Steve Donie stevedonie	May 6, 2005 6:04 pm
	Yup, I'm in. _____ From: AgileATX@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AgileATX@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jeremydmiller Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:57 AM To:...
76		Scott Bellware sbellware	May 10, 2005 4:39 am
	Chris Hassa and Peter Zahoran of TechTalk will be hosting a free workshop on Object-Relational Mapping in Austin at the Embassy Suites (Austin Arboretum) on...
77		Scott Bellware sbellware	May 11, 2005 2:11 pm
	More food and agile development today at the Mongolian BBQ at North Lamar & Rundberg (http://tinyurl.com/4ls9p). Wednesday, May 11, 11:30 AM 9200 N Lamar Blvd...
78		jeremydmiller	May 11, 2005 3:07 pm
	Is it definitely at the Mongolian BBQ? Jeffrey had said he had a conference room at Dell for this. BBQ sounds awfully good right now, though....
79		Scott Bellware sbellware	May 11, 2005 3:27 pm
	... The conference room is for the CI presentation. The presentation date isn't nailed down yet as far as I know. -Scott...
80		Jeremy D. Miller jeremydmiller	May 11, 2005 3:41 pm
	Good deal then. I put together a local configuration of CC.NET, but don't have much for slides yet. ... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? ...
81		Scott Bellware sbellware	May 11, 2005 3:45 pm
	Cool. Let's nail down the presentation details at lunch. -s...
82		Bret Pettichord bpettichord	May 11, 2005 7:27 pm
	Could be interesting. Could be a setup. ... _____________________ Bret Pettichord www.pettichord.com...
83		Scott Bellware sbellware	May 11, 2005 8:09 pm
	Bret Pettichord wrote ... Then I guess we'll need to be there in force! :) Jeff Smith, the leader of that group is really agile friendly, and also heavyweight...
84		Jeff Smith lostvisionary	May 11, 2005 9:02 pm
	Yeah - its actually the brainchild of our program manager - a true experiment - we actually are curious as well. Who knows what the outcome will be, but I...
85		Jeffrey Palermo jeffreypalermo	May 12, 2005 9:23 pm
	Guys, I've reserved a room for Wed, May 25th, and I have a project reserved. I have a room for 10, but with more chairs, it _could_ fit 20. All the really...
86		Steve Donie stevedonie	May 12, 2005 10:11 pm
	For those that weren't at Mongolian BBQ yesterday, what we are planning is a brown bad lunch presentation. We'll all chip in for pizza, and Jeremy Miller ...
87		AgileATX@yahoogroups....	May 13, 2005 5:07 pm
	Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the AgileATX group: Will you be at the presentation brown bag? o I'll be there _with_ my pizza money o...
88		Jeffrey Palermo jeffreypalermo	May 13, 2005 5:09 pm
	I've created a poll to get an accurate count of who's attending. Please log your answer in the poll. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AgileATX/polls Best regards,...
89		AgileATX@yahoogroups....	May 13, 2005 6:32 pm
	Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the AgileATX group: What topic shall we cover? Read for about each: <a ...
90		jeremydmiller	May 17, 2005 1:28 am
	My company (http://www.DataCert.com) has an opening for a senior tester in our Austin office. We're hoping to find a tester with familiarity with agile...
91		nelson_han	May 18, 2005 8:54 pm
	The theme of the current issue of IEEE Software journal http://csdl.computer.org/comp/mags/so/2005/03/s3toc.htm is Agile development. Hongjun...

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