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Re: [SPAM] RE: [All-E] Re: micro ac tukomak

And a good one, had he a well equipped lab. It's just that the amount of helium produced in a containable fusion reaction will be small and helium is notoriously difficult to measure without sophisticated equipment, which is why my suggestion is that he keeps on measuring power output. But on reflection I can think of no reason why the power should be output as electrical energy - I would have guessed heat as a secondary product of enhanced neutron radiation, so maybe he should measure temperature as well. Let's ask:

Chris, how are you measuring power output?

editor@... wrote:

Perhaps so, but he kept saying he thinks he has fusion, so I felt he could become more definitive with the measurement of helium and  performance of mass balance analysis. It was just a suggestion



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Subject: Re: [All-E] Re: micro ac tukomak
From: Prune <prune.etna@ntlworld.com>
Date: Mon, February 09, 2009 10:16 am
To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com

Ionisation is not really relevant to the fusion reaction. Stripping away the electron requires only a fraction of the energy needed to force the nuclei together.

I'm not sure how he would measure helium, unless he has access to a mass spectrometer. I reckon that his proposal to measure energy output is a better bet.

editor@gbanalysts.com wrote:
Hello Chris,

I believe that by fusion, you mean that the hydrogen is ionizing and then fusing into helium such as occurs in the Sun - correct me if I am wrong. Can you therefore carry out a quantitative analysis of the helium gas you produce at the end of the each run?

EditorGbanalysts

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Subject: [All-E] Re: micro ac tukomak
From: "chris64strev" <cjrs@chrisspages.co.uk>
Date: Sun, February 08, 2009 3:36 pm
To: All-Energy@yahoogroups.com

I think I may have fusion in the tube after all, here is my
reasoning based on circuit theory and the measurents I made.

In fact the ionised gas shows a series resistance that decreases the
dynamic impedance that creates a small mismatch. If the gas conducts
better this reduces the extra series resistance and will increase
the dynamic resistance, making this smaller or zero will not change
the dynamic resistance as the effective series resistance approaches
its value that it was without the tube. The only way the dynamic
resistance can increase is if the effective series resistance
decreases and this can only occur if the plasma resistance goes
negative meaning that power is being produced and this can only come
from fusion in the gas.

The mismatch was a VSWR of about 1.2 with Forward Power=100 and
reverse power = 2
so RP/FP= 0.2
so reflection coefficient = 0.2 = (ZL-ZS)/(ZL+ZS) = 0.2= (50-Z)/
(50+Z)

0.2 *50+ 0.2 * Z = 50-Z so 10-50 = -Z-0.2*Z 
so -40=-Z(1.2) so Z = 33.3 ohms.
L/Cr=RD = 11250 and RD = 7492.5
L=2.5 x 10^-6 C=7.39x10^-10
2.5E-6/r=11250 = 3383/r r=11250/3383=3.3 ohms
r with 2 watt reverse power =  7492.5/3383=2.2 ohms
so the plasma showed a negative resistance of 1.1 ohms.
Since Power = I^2*R then the extra current this power of 2 watt
generated by the 1.1 ohm was 1.3 amp.

Chris.



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Perhaps so, but he kept saying he thinks he has fusion, so I felt he could become more definitive with the measurement of helium and performance of mass...
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And a good one, had he a well equipped lab. It's just that the amount of helium produced in a containable fusion reaction will be small and helium is...
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I am using the reverse power according to the power meter. By the way I do not think I am the inventor of this reactor, after I accidently discovered the...
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Hello I put a plastic box over the capacitor to protect me from high voltage and tried the experiment again. This time there was no reverse power after...
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Hello Prune, Your question below sort of borders on a question I had been pondering, which is whether or not the "gassisity" (sp?) - defined [I think] as a...
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Hi Editor, I'm not sure what you mean. In a real tokamac the plasma is confined by magnetic fields to a very narrow beam in the centre of the torus. It's not...
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Hello Prune, You almost answered my question and then missed it, so let me put it within the context of your explanation. As you know,the cathode ray tube, as...
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Hi Editor, Thanks for that. It's not a subject I know much about, but interesting. He can't have a hard vacuum in that tube, of course, because he needs at...
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Hello Prune, Apparently he seems to be actually ionizing the gas after all; that is , if I have got him correctly as he has written in this post: ...
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I removed the plastic box and the reverse power came back after the ionised gas got hot as before. Well that was a waste of £50 (GBP)! My shrink called today...
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"My shrink called today and I gave a demonstration however the shrink and her beefy assistant had no understanding of radio or physics. I refused "treatment"...
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Hi Editor , I didn't meant to say that the hydrogen need not be ionised - having re-read my post I see that it could be read that way, sorry. I'll try to...
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Hi Prune, You are right the LC circuit is like a flywheel and the magnetic field like a piston in a diesel engine. The method of collecting the energy is far...
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Chris, Thanks for the explanation. Do you mind a couple more questions? What is the fusion reaction if you use air? Which entities are fusing? When you...
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The power is worked out from the mass defect in 4P>He + gamma I think a neutrino is released as well. I do not know the reaction for air. The person found it...
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15-02-2009 12:21 am I tried my reactor today and I could get no balance at low power. So I took the coil out and found a film of discolouration on the bare...
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Chris you are an inspiration to us all to return to the pure art of discovery and in sharing what we find..thank you ... So ... and ... to ... as ... began...
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Chris Are you using a SWR meter to measure the reverse power? Rick H Parker...
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Yes. ... found I...
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Chris The reverse power is really input power being reflected back toward the amp. When the impedance of the current equals the impedance of the amp you get...
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Yes I do know that. I have an LC circuit with a tube of hydrogen at a pressure of 2 Torr inside the coil. I set the tuned cicuit capacitor so the cicuit is ...
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Chris How can you be sure the electromagnetism permeability of the hydrogen core does not change when it goes to to a plasma state. A change in ...
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I dont. But as far as I know hydrogen is diamagnetic and the ionised gas is just ions and electrons and so is non magnetic. I think it would be diamagnetic. ...
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Chris Permeability is the degree of magnetisation of a material in response to a magnetic field. All materials have some value of permeability. Hydrogen in a...
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My prototype fusion reactor which was working quite well has now failed. I made a change which brought considerable improvement bringing the reverse power up...
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I found that the nut on the SO239 connector had come loose. I will now rebuild the test unit with silver plated plugs on the coil connectors. Chris...
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I now have a permanent fault. Since the only thing that has changed is the plugs that I attached the coils to and plugged them in that must be the cause. They...
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Another possibility is to invert the base and solder the coils directly to the base of the plugs. This won't look neat like it does now. It looks nice but...
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I noticed today that my face and hands are quite suntanned and I have watering eyes. This may be due to radiation from the prototype reactor. I have now put it...
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When the majority lose, the minority win as J.P.Morgan would say! Be careful with your experiments...even the electric field could fry your brain if indulged...
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