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Azores Islands Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"   Message List  
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RE: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"

Thank you for the information. I'll crosscheck it with the local University
botanists involved with the Chestnut Trees.
The Azores Chestnut production is just 20% of the required total
consumers needs, and it has been proofed that no longer is economically
feasible. The most recent plague, the "Cydia splendana", has definitely
ended the Chestnut "dynasty" in this Region, except for hobbyists like me.
That plague has increase since 2006 at a 10 to 15% rate every year and we
are expecting a 50% damage at the current year. As per the (local and
international) scientists studies it will be very difficult to properly
control the plague. The plague affects only the fruits. We still will
enjoy the beauty and majesty of the trees.
Vitor

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From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
brokenstrings
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:48 PM
To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands Chestnut
Trees "Castanea Sativa"

Vitor, I would think the relative isolation of the Azores plop in
mid-Atlantic would be a factor too. Some French botanist discovered a blight
that fed on the blight; it worked rather well in France/Italy (Castanea
sativa) but either didn't work as well on the American chestnut (Castanea
dentata) or wasn't economically feasible, I forget which. Have you folks in
the Azores thought about giving it a try?


--- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor Hugo
Fragueiro"
<vhfragueiro@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not a pioneer. I'm an apprentice with 20 years of a very
> interesting "traditional experience", orally transmitted by local
> chestnut/and other fruits forest workers.
> The culture of chestnuts in the Azores Islands seems to go back into

> the beginning of the 19th Century (Drouet,1866, cit. Fernandes 1987).
> About this subject, you can take a look at the "Portuguese, Azores
University"
> site bellow.
> You're right about orange trees. Before the chestnut trees grow up
> too high and wide, we used to have orange trees producing oranges
> between the Chestnut trees area.
> Vitor
>
> http://www.angra.uac.pt/pessoais/docentes/jbatista/Castanheiro/Castanh
> eiro.p
> df
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of brokenstrings
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:40 AM
> To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands
> Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"
>
> Ah! That was one of the islands I visited. In the botanical gardens in
> Angra do Heroismo, I found many old friends, including some I would
> not have expected that far north (a Chinquapin rose--don't laugh!--R.
> roxburghii plena). OTOH Castanea sativa will grow as far south as
> Corsica and Crete. I suspect it's because of the mountainous nature of
> those places that you can grow quinces, citrus and chestnuts all on
> the same island. Are you a pioneer in growing chestnuts in the Azores,
> or are they established there? I know they grow in mainland Portugal.
>
>
> --- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor
> Hugo Fragueiro"
> <vhfragueiro@> wrote:
> >
> > Terceira Island, one of the Central Group Islands, Town: Terra-Cha,
> > Canada de Belem
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Jessica Wolff
> > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:12 AM
> > To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Azores Islands
> > Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"
> >
> > Which island? I visited the Azores some years ago and came back with
> > an unusual guitar. (No, not made of chestnut, but I do have a
> > chestnut
> > psaltery.)
> >
> > --- Vitor Hugo Bettencourt da Terra Fragueiro <vhfragueiro@>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old and we live in
> > > the Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between Europe and USA,
> > > on the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. My retirement is dedicated
> > > to a 10 acres Chestnut trees property.
> > > I just posted in the Group some pictures of our Chestnut Trees
> > > "Castanea Sativa".
> > > I would appreciate if some of the group members could share also
> > > pictures of their own Chestnut Trees.
> > > Thank You in advance.
> > >
> > > Vitor
>




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Hello! I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old and we live in the Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between Europe and USA, on the middle of the...
Vitor Hugo Bettencour...
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Apr 27, 2008
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Those are some nice size trees. Did you plant them yourself?...
Len
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Apr 28, 2008
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Usually we do not plant the Chestnut trees. We pick spontaneous born plants, under the Chestnut trees, relocate them and later on, 2 to 3 years old, we...
Vitor Hugo Fragueiro
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Apr 28, 2008
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... I need to plant them, as there are none now. My family, over the last 300 years, managed to cut *every* red oak and sweet chestnut in our woods. My Dad...
Jocelyn Clarke
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Apr 29, 2008
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Good Morning Jocelyn: The humidity level here in the Azores Islands is very high. All our chestnuts must be consumed or used within a month. After that time...
Vitor Hugo Fragueiro
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Which island? I visited the Azores some years ago and came back with an unusual guitar. (No, not made of chestnut, but I do have a chestnut psaltery.) ... ...
Jessica Wolff
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Terceira Island, one of the Central Group Islands, Town: Terra-Cha, Canada de Belem ... From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com ...
Vitor Hugo Fragueiro
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Ah! That was one of the islands I visited. In the botanical gardens in Angra do Heroismo, I found many old friends, including some I would not have expected...
brokenstrings
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Apr 29, 2008
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I'm not a pioneer. I'm an apprentice with 20 years of a very interesting "traditional experience", orally transmitted by local chestnut/and other fruits...
Vitor Hugo Fragueiro
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Vitor, I would think the relative isolation of the Azores plop in mid-Atlantic would be a factor too. Some French botanist discovered a blight that fed on the...
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Apr 30, 2008
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Thank you for the information. I'll crosscheck it with the local University botanists involved with the Chestnut Trees. The Azores Chestnut production is just...
Vitor Hugo Fragueiro
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May 1, 2008
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Oh, dear! Does that mean that if we succeed in reestablishing the American chestnut we will then have to worry about Cydia splendana? That the plague affects...
brokenstrings
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For three or more years that the Portuguese Universities, namely Minho, Madeira Islands and Azores Islands, among other International Universities, I think,...
Vitor Hugo Fragueiro
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May 2, 2008
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Hi Vitor, here are some pictures for you. Mine are mostly young trees. See Jocelyn's trees....
Jocelyn
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Jocelyn, Thank you for sharing your pictures. Really appreciated. Vitor ... From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com ...
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