Oh, dear! Does that mean that if we succeed in reestablishing the American
chestnut we
will then have to worry about Cydia splendana?

That the plague affects only the fruits doesn't hold true, because where then is
the next
generation of trees to come from? In the Appalachians the trees and fruit both
were of
economic and other importance to wildlife as well as people. It provided food
and shelter
for wildlife and timber and food for people. It bore every year, unlike the
oak(?), which
bears only every other. I understand that in mainland Portugal, pigs are fed on
chestnuts
and it improves the taste of the pork. Fine chestnut honey comes from Corsica,
Crete,
France, and Italy. Corsicans use chestnut flour extensively in their baking.
But I
understand your feeling for the beauty and majesty of the trees.

--- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor Hugo
Fragueiro"
<vhfragueiro@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the information. I'll crosscheck it with the local University
> botanists involved with the Chestnut Trees.
> The Azores Chestnut production is just 20% of the required total
> consumers needs, and it has been proofed that no longer is economically
> feasible. The most recent plague, the "Cydia splendana", has definitely
> ended the Chestnut "dynasty" in this Region, except for hobbyists like me.
> That plague has increase since 2006 at a 10 to 15% rate every year and we
> are expecting a 50% damage at the current year. As per the (local and
> international) scientists studies it will be very difficult to properly
> control the plague. The plague affects only the fruits. We still will
> enjoy the beauty and majesty of the trees.
> Vitor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> brokenstrings
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:48 PM
> To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands Chestnut
> Trees "Castanea Sativa"
>
> Vitor, I would think the relative isolation of the Azores plop in
> mid-Atlantic would be a factor too. Some French botanist discovered a blight
> that fed on the blight; it worked rather well in France/Italy (Castanea
> sativa) but either didn't work as well on the American chestnut (Castanea
> dentata) or wasn't economically feasible, I forget which. Have you folks in
> the Azores thought about giving it a try?
>
>
> --- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor Hugo
> Fragueiro"
> <vhfragueiro@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not a pioneer. I'm an apprentice with 20 years of a very
> > interesting "traditional experience", orally transmitted by local
> > chestnut/and other fruits forest workers.
> > The culture of chestnuts in the Azores Islands seems to go back into
>
> > the beginning of the 19th Century (Drouet,1866, cit. Fernandes 1987).
> > About this subject, you can take a look at the "Portuguese, Azores
> University"
> > site bellow.
> > You're right about orange trees. Before the chestnut trees grow up
> > too high and wide, we used to have orange trees producing oranges
> > between the Chestnut trees area.
> > Vitor
> >
> > http://www.angra.uac.pt/pessoais/docentes/jbatista/Castanheiro/Castanh
> > eiro.p
> > df
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of brokenstrings
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:40 AM
> > To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands
> > Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"
> >
> > Ah! That was one of the islands I visited. In the botanical gardens in
> > Angra do Heroismo, I found many old friends, including some I would
> > not have expected that far north (a Chinquapin rose--don't laugh!--R.
> > roxburghii plena). OTOH Castanea sativa will grow as far south as
> > Corsica and Crete. I suspect it's because of the mountainous nature of
> > those places that you can grow quinces, citrus and chestnuts all on
> > the same island. Are you a pioneer in growing chestnuts in the Azores,
> > or are they established there? I know they grow in mainland Portugal.
> >
> >
> > --- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor
> > Hugo Fragueiro"
> > <vhfragueiro@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Terceira Island, one of the Central Group Islands, Town: Terra-Cha,
> > > Canada de Belem
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Jessica Wolff
> > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:12 AM
> > > To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Azores Islands
> > > Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"
> > >
> > > Which island? I visited the Azores some years ago and came back with
> > > an unusual guitar. (No, not made of chestnut, but I do have a
> > > chestnut
> > > psaltery.)
> > >
> > > --- Vitor Hugo Bettencourt da Terra Fragueiro <vhfragueiro@>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello!
> > > >
> > > > I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old and we live in
> > > > the Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between Europe and USA,
> > > > on the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. My retirement is dedicated
> > > > to a 10 acres Chestnut trees property.
> > > > I just posted in the Group some pictures of our Chestnut Trees
> > > > "Castanea Sativa".
> > > > I would appreciate if some of the group members could share also
> > > > pictures of their own Chestnut Trees.
> > > > Thank You in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Vitor
> >
>
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