For three or more years that the Portuguese Universities, namely Minho,
Madeira Islands and Azores Islands, among other International Universities,
I think, are conducting studies about that plague. They already have
provided some technics to reduce the damages. It can only be reduced, and
it should not be completely erradicated, because Cydia Splendana is also
important and "good" for other environment variables.
Vitor

-----Original Message-----
From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
brokenstrings
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:46 PM
To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands Chestnut
Trees "Castanea Sativa"

Oh, dear! Does that mean that if we succeed in reestablishing the American
chestnut we will then have to worry about Cydia splendana?

That the plague affects only the fruits doesn't hold true, because where
then is the next generation of trees to come from? In the Appalachians the
trees and fruit both were of economic and other importance to wildlife as
well as people. It provided food and shelter for wildlife and timber and
food for people. It bore every year, unlike the oak(?), which bears only
every other. I understand that in mainland Portugal, pigs are fed on
chestnuts and it improves the taste of the pork. Fine chestnut honey comes
from Corsica, Crete, France, and Italy. Corsicans use chestnut flour
extensively in their baking. But I understand your feeling for the beauty
and majesty of the trees.

--- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor Hugo
Fragueiro"
<vhfragueiro@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the information. I'll crosscheck it with the local
> University botanists involved with the Chestnut Trees.
> The Azores Chestnut production is just 20% of the required total
> consumers needs, and it has been proofed that no longer is
> economically feasible. The most recent plague, the "Cydia splendana",
> has definitely ended the Chestnut "dynasty" in this Region, except for
hobbyists like me.
> That plague has increase since 2006 at a 10 to 15% rate every year and
> we are expecting a 50% damage at the current year. As per the (local
> and
> international) scientists studies it will be very difficult to
> properly control the plague. The plague affects only the fruits. We
> still will enjoy the beauty and majesty of the trees.
> Vitor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of brokenstrings
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:48 PM
> To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands
> Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"
>
> Vitor, I would think the relative isolation of the Azores plop in
> mid-Atlantic would be a factor too. Some French botanist discovered a
> blight that fed on the blight; it worked rather well in France/Italy
> (Castanea
> sativa) but either didn't work as well on the American chestnut
> (Castanea
> dentata) or wasn't economically feasible, I forget which. Have you
> folks in the Azores thought about giving it a try?
>
>
> --- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor
> Hugo Fragueiro"
> <vhfragueiro@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not a pioneer. I'm an apprentice with 20 years of a very
> > interesting "traditional experience", orally transmitted by local
> > chestnut/and other fruits forest workers.
> > The culture of chestnuts in the Azores Islands seems to go back
> > into
>
> > the beginning of the 19th Century (Drouet,1866, cit. Fernandes 1987).
> > About this subject, you can take a look at the "Portuguese, Azores
> University"
> > site bellow.
> > You're right about orange trees. Before the chestnut trees grow up
> > too high and wide, we used to have orange trees producing oranges
> > between the Chestnut trees area.
> > Vitor
> >
> > http://www.angra.uac.pt/pessoais/docentes/jbatista/Castanheiro/Casta
> > nh
> > eiro.p
> > df
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of brokenstrings
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:40 AM
> > To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands
> > Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"
> >
> > Ah! That was one of the islands I visited. In the botanical gardens
> > in Angra do Heroismo, I found many old friends, including some I
> > would not have expected that far north (a Chinquapin rose--don't
laugh!--R.
> > roxburghii plena). OTOH Castanea sativa will grow as far south as
> > Corsica and Crete. I suspect it's because of the mountainous nature
> > of those places that you can grow quinces, citrus and chestnuts all
> > on the same island. Are you a pioneer in growing chestnuts in the
> > Azores, or are they established there? I know they grow in mainland
Portugal.
> >
> >
> > --- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor
> > Hugo Fragueiro"
> > <vhfragueiro@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Terceira Island, one of the Central Group Islands, Town:
> > > Terra-Cha, Canada de Belem
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Jessica Wolff
> > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:12 AM
> > > To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Azores Islands
> > > Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"
> > >
> > > Which island? I visited the Azores some years ago and came back
> > > with an unusual guitar. (No, not made of chestnut, but I do have a
> > > chestnut
> > > psaltery.)
> > >
> > > --- Vitor Hugo Bettencourt da Terra Fragueiro <vhfragueiro@>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello!
> > > >
> > > > I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old and we live
in
> > > > the Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between Europe and
> > > > USA, on the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. My retirement is
> > > > dedicated to a 10 acres Chestnut trees property.
> > > > I just posted in the Group some pictures of our Chestnut
Trees
> > > > "Castanea Sativa".
> > > > I would appreciate if some of the group members could share
> > > > also pictures of their own Chestnut Trees.
> > > > Thank You in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Vitor
> >
>
>
>
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