Thank you for the information.  I'll crosscheck it with the local University
botanists involved with the Chestnut Trees.
	 The Azores Chestnut production is just 20% of the required total
consumers needs, and it has been proofed that no longer is economically
feasible.  The most recent plague, the "Cydia splendana", has definitely
ended the Chestnut "dynasty" in this Region, except for hobbyists like me.
That plague has increase since 2006 at a 10 to 15% rate every year and we
are expecting a 50% damage at the current year.  As per the (local and
international) scientists studies it will be very difficult to properly
control the plague.  The plague affects only the fruits.  We still will
enjoy the beauty and majesty of the trees.
Vitor

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From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
brokenstrings
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:48 PM
To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands Chestnut
Trees "Castanea Sativa"

Vitor, I would think the relative isolation of the Azores plop in
mid-Atlantic would be a factor too. Some French botanist discovered a blight
that fed on the blight; it worked rather well in France/Italy (Castanea
sativa) but either didn't work as well on the American chestnut (Castanea
dentata) or wasn't economically feasible, I forget which. Have you folks in
the Azores thought about giving it a try?


--- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor Hugo
Fragueiro"
<vhfragueiro@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not a pioneer.  I'm an apprentice with 20 years of a very
> interesting "traditional experience", orally transmitted by local
> chestnut/and other fruits forest workers.
>  The culture of chestnuts in the Azores Islands seems to go back into

> the beginning of the 19th Century (Drouet,1866, cit. Fernandes 1987).
> About this subject, you can take a look at the "Portuguese, Azores
University"
> site bellow.
>  You're right about orange trees.  Before the chestnut trees grow up
> too high and wide, we used to have orange trees producing oranges
> between the Chestnut trees area.
> Vitor
>
> http://www.angra.uac.pt/pessoais/docentes/jbatista/Castanheiro/Castanh
> eiro.p
> df
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of brokenstrings
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:40 AM
> To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands
> Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"
>
> Ah! That was one of the islands I visited. In the botanical gardens in
> Angra do Heroismo, I found many old friends, including some I would
> not have expected that far north (a Chinquapin rose--don't laugh!--R.
> roxburghii plena). OTOH Castanea sativa will grow as far south as
> Corsica and Crete. I suspect it's because of the mountainous nature of
> those places  that you can grow quinces, citrus and chestnuts all on
> the same island. Are you a pioneer in growing chestnuts in the Azores,
> or are they established there? I know they grow in mainland Portugal.
>
>
> --- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor
> Hugo Fragueiro"
> <vhfragueiro@> wrote:
> >
> > Terceira Island, one of the Central Group Islands, Town:  Terra-Cha,
> > Canada de Belem
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Jessica Wolff
> > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:12 AM
> > To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Azores Islands
> > Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"
> >
> > Which island? I visited the Azores some years ago and came back with
> > an unusual guitar. (No, not made of chestnut, but I do have a
> > chestnut
> > psaltery.)
> >
> > --- Vitor Hugo Bettencourt da Terra Fragueiro <vhfragueiro@>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > >  I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old and we live in
> > > the Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between Europe and USA,
> > > on the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.  My retirement is dedicated
> > > to a 10 acres Chestnut trees property.
> > >  I just posted in the Group some pictures of our Chestnut Trees
> > > "Castanea Sativa".
> > >  I would appreciate if some of the group members could share also
> > > pictures of their own Chestnut Trees.
> > >  Thank You in advance.
> > >
> > > Vitor
>




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Vitor, I would think the relative isolation of the Azores plop in mid-Atlantic
would be a
factor too. Some French botanist discovered a blight that fed on the blight; it
worked
rather well in France/Italy (Castanea sativa) but either didn't work as well on
the American
chestnut (Castanea dentata) or wasn't economically feasible, I forget which.
Have you folks
in the Azores thought about giving it a try?


--- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor Hugo
Fragueiro"
<vhfragueiro@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not a pioneer.  I'm an apprentice with 20 years of a very interesting
> "traditional experience", orally transmitted by local chestnut/and other
> fruits forest workers.
>  The culture of chestnuts in the Azores Islands seems to go back into
> the beginning of the 19th Century (Drouet,1866, cit. Fernandes 1987).  About
> this subject, you can take a look at the "Portuguese, Azores University"
> site bellow.
>  You're right about orange trees.  Before the chestnut trees grow up
> too high and wide, we used to have orange trees producing oranges between
> the Chestnut trees area.
> Vitor
>
> http://www.angra.uac.pt/pessoais/docentes/jbatista/Castanheiro/Castanheiro.p
> df
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> brokenstrings
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:40 AM
> To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands Chestnut
> Trees "Castanea Sativa"
>
> Ah! That was one of the islands I visited. In the botanical gardens in Angra
> do Heroismo, I found many old friends, including some I would not have
> expected that far north (a Chinquapin rose--don't laugh!--R. roxburghii
> plena). OTOH Castanea sativa will grow as far south as Corsica and Crete. I
> suspect it's because of the mountainous nature of those places  that you can
> grow quinces, citrus and chestnuts all on the same island. Are you a pioneer
> in growing chestnuts in the Azores, or are they established there? I know
> they grow in mainland Portugal.
>
>
> --- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor Hugo
> Fragueiro"
> <vhfragueiro@> wrote:
> >
> > Terceira Island, one of the Central Group Islands, Town:  Terra-Cha,
> > Canada de Belem
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of Jessica Wolff
> > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:12 AM
> > To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Azores Islands
> > Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"
> >
> > Which island? I visited the Azores some years ago and came back with
> > an unusual guitar. (No, not made of chestnut, but I do have a chestnut
> > psaltery.)
> >
> > --- Vitor Hugo Bettencourt da Terra Fragueiro <vhfragueiro@>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > >  I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old and we live in the
> > > Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between Europe and USA, on
> > > the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.  My retirement is dedicated to a
> > > 10 acres Chestnut trees property.
> > >  I just posted in the Group some pictures of our Chestnut Trees
> > > "Castanea Sativa".
> > >  I would appreciate if some of the group members could share also
> > > pictures of their own Chestnut Trees.
> > >  Thank You in advance.
> > >
> > > Vitor
>

I'm not a pioneer.  I'm an apprentice with 20 years of a very interesting
"traditional experience", orally transmitted by local chestnut/and other
fruits forest workers.
	 The culture of chestnuts in the Azores Islands seems to go back into
the beginning of the 19th Century (Drouet,1866, cit. Fernandes 1987).  About
this subject, you can take a look at the "Portuguese, Azores University"
site bellow.
	 You're right about orange trees.  Before the chestnut trees grow up
too high and wide, we used to have orange trees producing oranges between
the Chestnut trees area.
Vitor

http://www.angra.uac.pt/pessoais/docentes/jbatista/Castanheiro/Castanheiro.p
df

-----Original Message-----
From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
brokenstrings
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:40 AM
To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands Chestnut
Trees "Castanea Sativa"

Ah! That was one of the islands I visited. In the botanical gardens in Angra
do Heroismo, I found many old friends, including some I would not have
expected that far north (a Chinquapin rose--don't laugh!--R. roxburghii
plena). OTOH Castanea sativa will grow as far south as Corsica and Crete. I
suspect it's because of the mountainous nature of those places  that you can
grow quinces, citrus and chestnuts all on the same island. Are you a pioneer
in growing chestnuts in the Azores, or are they established there? I know
they grow in mainland Portugal.


--- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor Hugo
Fragueiro"
<vhfragueiro@...> wrote:
>
> Terceira Island, one of the Central Group Islands, Town:  Terra-Cha,
> Canada de Belem
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jessica Wolff
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:12 AM
> To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Azores Islands
> Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"
>
> Which island? I visited the Azores some years ago and came back with
> an unusual guitar. (No, not made of chestnut, but I do have a chestnut
> psaltery.)
>
> --- Vitor Hugo Bettencourt da Terra Fragueiro <vhfragueiro@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> >  I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old and we live in the
> > Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between Europe and USA, on
> > the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.  My retirement is dedicated to a
> > 10 acres Chestnut trees property.
> >  I just posted in the Group some pictures of our Chestnut Trees
> > "Castanea Sativa".
> >  I would appreciate if some of the group members could share also
> > pictures of their own Chestnut Trees.
> >  Thank You in advance.
> >
> > Vitor

Good Morning Jocelyn:
	 The humidity level here in the Azores Islands is very high.  All our
chestnuts must be consumed or used within a month.  After that time they
will start to decompose.   Successful recent experiences (very few, by
the Azores University) have been made with the freezing of the nuts until
the next Spring.
	 Our chestnut trees had before and still have blight (about 3%), and
it seems that in the last 20 years they have resisted to the blight attack
disease.  But you must be always aware and cut the affected branches as soon
as you notice the disease.  Our trees resistance to the bight, I think, is
due to many unknown factors, of course, but in particular due to the
abundance of humidity, that provides a good plant health to fight their
diseases.
	 Vitor

-----Original Message-----
From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jocelyn Clarke
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:46 PM
To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands
Chestnut Trees "Castanea Sativa"

At 01:17 PM 28/04/2008, you wrote:

>Usually we do not plant the Chestnut trees. We pick spontaneous born
>plants, under the Chestnut trees, relocate them and later on, 2 to 3
>years old, we implant the young trees with the kind of the chestnut tree we
want.
>There is a technique for this, and it would take some time to describe it.

I need to plant them, as there are none now.  My family, over the last 300
years, managed to cut *every* red oak and sweet chestnut in our woods.  My
Dad took me planting acorns the year I turned  three, so there are a few
now, and I am planting more.  I took my kid planting acorns the year she
turned three.

Jocelyn

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At 01:17 PM 28/04/2008, you wrote:

>Usually we do not plant the Chestnut trees. We pick spontaneous born
>plants, under the Chestnut trees, relocate them and later on, 2 to 3 years
>old, we implant the young trees with the kind of the chestnut tree we want.
>There is a technique for this, and it would take some time to describe it.

I need to plant them, as there are none now.  My family, over the last 300
years, managed to cut *every* red oak and sweet chestnut in our woods.  My
Dad took me planting acorns the year I turned  three, so there are a few
now, and I am planting more.  I took my kid planting acorns the year she
turned three.

Jocelyn

--- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Len" <vze2myxa@...>
wrote:
>
> I finally planted some Ozark Chinquapin seeds.  I can't wait to see how
> well they grow.  Does anyone have Ozarks, Henryi, or hybrids?
>
I wish! Central Florida is flat-out too warm for any kind of chestnut.
Chinquapins will grow as
far south as Northern Florida, I think. But that's the bottom end of the range.
There's an old-
time banjo tune called "Chinquapin Pie"--I'm a moderator on a banjo
website--which
suggests that the chinquapin was of some importance in people's lives and diets
in the past.
And there's a chinquapin oak and chinquapin rose, suggesting the same. (In the
case of the
chinquapin rose, both flower buds and fruit look like chestnut burrs.) Nowadays
few people
seem to have heard of the chinquapin unless they're interested in the chestnut
in the first
place.

Ah! That was one of the islands I visited. In the botanical gardens in Angra do
Heroismo, I
found many old friends, including some I would not have expected that far north
(a
Chinquapin rose--don't laugh!--R. roxburghii plena). OTOH Castanea sativa will
grow as
far south as Corsica and Crete. I suspect it's because of the mountainous nature
of those
places  that you can grow quinces, citrus and chestnuts all on the same island.
Are you a
pioneer in growing chestnuts in the Azores, or are they established there? I
know they
grow in mainland Portugal.


--- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor Hugo
Fragueiro"
<vhfragueiro@...> wrote:
>
> Terceira Island, one of the Central Group Islands, Town:  Terra-Cha, Canada
> de Belem
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Jessica Wolff
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:12 AM
> To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Azores Islands Chestnut
> Trees "Castanea Sativa"
>
> Which island? I visited the Azores some years ago and came back with an
> unusual guitar. (No, not made of chestnut, but I do have a chestnut
> psaltery.)
>
> --- Vitor Hugo Bettencourt da Terra Fragueiro <vhfragueiro@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> >  I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old and we live in the
> > Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between Europe and USA, on the
> > middle of the Atlantic Ocean.  My retirement is dedicated to a 10
> > acres Chestnut trees property.
> >  I just posted in the Group some pictures of our Chestnut Trees
> > "Castanea Sativa".
> >  I would appreciate if some of the group members could share also
> > pictures of their own Chestnut Trees.
> >  Thank You in advance.
> >
> > Vitor
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Jocelyn, Thank you for sharing your pictures.  Really appreciated.
Vitor


-----Original Message-----
From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jocelyn
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:50 AM
To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands Chestnut
Trees "Castanea Sativa"



Hi  Vitor, here are some pictures for you.  Mine are mostly young trees.
See Jocelyn's trees.




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Usually we do not plant the Chestnut trees.  We pick spontaneous born
plants, under the Chestnut trees,  relocate them and later on, 2 to 3 years
old, we implant the young trees with the kind of the chestnut tree we want.
There is a technique for this, and it would take some time to describe it.
Vitor

-----Original Message-----
From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Len
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:42 AM
To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Re: Azores Islands Chestnut
Trees "Castanea Sativa"

Those are some nice size trees.  Did you plant them yourself?





--- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor Hugo
Bettencourt da Terra Fragueiro" <vhfragueiro@...> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
>  I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old and we live in the
> Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between Europe and USA, on the
> middle of the Atlantic Ocean.  My retirement is dedicated to a 10
> acres Chestnut trees property.
>  I just posted in the Group some pictures of our Chestnut Trees
> "Castanea Sativa".
>  I would appreciate if some of the group members could share also
> pictures of their own Chestnut Trees.
>  Thank You in advance.
>
> Vitor
>



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Terceira Island, one of the Central Group Islands, Town:  Terra-Cha, Canada
de Belem

-----Original Message-----
From: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jessica Wolff
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:12 AM
To: American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids] Azores Islands Chestnut
Trees "Castanea Sativa"

Which island? I visited the Azores some years ago and came back with an
unusual guitar. (No, not made of chestnut, but I do have a chestnut
psaltery.)

--- Vitor Hugo Bettencourt da Terra Fragueiro <vhfragueiro@...>
wrote:

> Hello!
>
>  I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old and we live in the
> Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between Europe and USA, on the
> middle of the Atlantic Ocean.  My retirement is dedicated to a 10
> acres Chestnut trees property.
>  I just posted in the Group some pictures of our Chestnut Trees
> "Castanea Sativa".
>  I would appreciate if some of the group members could share also
> pictures of their own Chestnut Trees.
>  Thank You in advance.
>
> Vitor
>
>




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Hi  Vitor, here are some pictures for you.  Mine are mostly young
trees.  See Jocelyn's trees.

Which island? I visited the Azores some years ago and
came back with an unusual guitar. (No, not made of
chestnut, but I do have a chestnut psaltery.)

--- Vitor Hugo Bettencourt da Terra Fragueiro
<vhfragueiro@...> wrote:

> Hello!
>
>  I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old
> and we live in
> the Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between
> Europe and USA, on
> the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.  My retirement is
> dedicated to a 10
> acres Chestnut trees property.
>  I just posted in the Group some pictures of our
> Chestnut
> Trees "Castanea Sativa".
>  I would appreciate if some of the group members
> could share
> also pictures of their own Chestnut Trees.
>  Thank You in advance.
>
> Vitor
>
>



      
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I finally planted some Ozark Chinquapin seeds.  I can't wait to see how
well they grow.  Does anyone have Ozarks, Henryi, or hybrids?

Those are some nice size trees.  Did you plant them yourself?





--- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "Vitor Hugo
Bettencourt da Terra Fragueiro" <vhfragueiro@...> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
>  I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old and we live in
> the Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between Europe and USA, on
> the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.  My retirement is dedicated to a 10
> acres Chestnut trees property.
>  I just posted in the Group some pictures of our Chestnut
> Trees "Castanea Sativa".
>  I would appreciate if some of the group members could share
> also pictures of their own Chestnut Trees.
>  Thank You in advance.
>
> Vitor
>

Hello!

	 I am a retired air traffic controller, 70yrs old and we live in
the Azores Islands, a 9 Island Archipelago between Europe and USA, on
the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.  My retirement is dedicated to a 10
acres Chestnut trees property.
	 I just posted in the Group some pictures of our Chestnut
Trees "Castanea Sativa".
	 I would appreciate if some of the group members could share
also pictures of their own Chestnut Trees.
	 Thank You in advance.

Vitor

Far as I know, the Tallahassee area, by which I mean Northern Florida, is the
bottom end of
the chestnut range. It is for chinquapins. Living in Central Florida as i do, I
haven't even
attempted to grow chestnuts. However, plant scientists are extending the range
and who
knows? maybe some day they'll come up with a hot-climate hybrid.


--- In American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, B <bobcateaux@...>
wrote:
>
> I was at the nursery last Fall and saw their trees.  I also eat some of their
roasted hybrid
chestnut.  Not bad for a hybrid.  I think that they sell some of thier chestnuts
in the local
market.  I plan on buying some and planting here in Louisiana, northshore of
Lake
Ponchatrain.
>
> James <jls14341@...> wrote:  I've been gathering lots of chestnut tree
information and I
found a
> nursery in Florida only a few hours from my property that sells
> Dunstan Hybrid Chestnut seedlings.  I'm thinking of starting these for
> my home orchard. Does anyone know anything about them?  The website is
> at: http://www.chestnuthilltreefarm.com/page9.php
>
> They say they have not had one instance of chestnut blight in 30
> years,  so thats good!
>
> Since they are growing them near me I'm thinking they would grow in my
> climate ok.   They have 2yr trees about 3' tall in 3 Gal containers.
> I'm thinking of getting about 25 of them to start and clear an area
> 100' x 100' and planting them 20' x 20'  then thin them out later.
> Then I'll expand the area every year.   This way I don't have to clear
> the entire property now and I can get some trees growing.
>
> Does anyone have any photos of a mature orchard?   I've never seen one
> and I'm curious what my property will look like after all the trees
> are full size.   Does anyone know of any existing chestnut orcharads
> that allow visitiors withing driving distance from florida (on a
> vacation trip perhaps)
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
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Where were the trees near Traverse? Do you recall the road or area?
-I know of a few large trees in nearby southeastern Benzie County.

-- In
American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids@yahoogroups.com, "michaeljtone"
<michaeljtone@...> wrote:
>
> I am wondering who would be interested in knowing about 2 mature
> American Chestnut Trees in northern Michigan near the Traverse
City
> area - if you don't know of  them already.
> I saw these trees about 12 years ago. At that time it appeared
that the
> blight was affecting one of the tree's lower limb. These were
clear
> single trunk trees that had a diameter of about 4 ft at the chest.
If I
> remember correctly. They were large tall timber type trees. I also
have
> knowledge of a tree in the Detroit suburbs that I saw that is more
of
> a Globe shaped tree with large low growing limbs. This tree was/is
> about 40 - 50 ft tall and had a large trunk.
>
> I have a about 500 chestnuts (asiatic) and 100 Dunstan trees on my
> property in southern michigan that are 10-15 years old and range
in
> height of 8-15 ft. tall and are producing great nuts.
>
> If anyone is interested to follow up on this  info my email is
> MikeJtone@..., my name is Mike
>

I am wondering who would be interested in knowing about 2 mature
American Chestnut Trees in northern Michigan near the Traverse City
area - if you don't know of  them already.
I saw these trees about 12 years ago. At that time it appeared that the
blight was affecting one of the tree's lower limb. These were clear
single trunk trees that had a diameter of about 4 ft at the chest. If I
remember correctly. They were large tall timber type trees. I also have
knowledge of a tree in the Detroit suburbs that I saw that is more of
a Globe shaped tree with large low growing limbs. This tree was/is
about 40 - 50 ft tall and had a large trunk.

I have a about 500 chestnuts (asiatic) and 100 Dunstan trees on my
property in southern michigan that are 10-15 years old and range in
height of 8-15 ft. tall and are producing great nuts.

If anyone is interested to follow up on this  info my email is
MikeJtone@..., my name is Mike

FYI

http://www.cadillacmichigan.com/chestnuts/

I'm looking for some sources for Ozark chinquapin seed nut.  If you
know of any trees that are producing please let me know.  Thanks, Len

>
>rare tree because it probably is not blight resistant. Also how old
>does the tree have to be to start producing nuts? What other trees are
>needed for pollination? If it is not blight resistant, how can I
>protect it?
It may have nuts when it's 5 or 6 years old.  It needs another chestnut to
pollinate it, as they are not usually self fertile.  It can be another
american chestnut, or even a chinese or european chestnut.  I have planted
pure americans, just 'cause I want seeds from pure stock.  You can do as
you wish.  If there are very few chestnuts in your area, there might not be
any blight.  There is no blight in PEI, where I live.  Trees old enough to
make nuts will make catkins the first year, then catkins and little green
lumpy things further out the twig the second year.  You will see several
styles sticking out of the green burs, and if pollination is successful,
the green lumpy things become large round green balls of prickles with the
nuts inside them.  They split open in the fall and the nuts may fall out or
come down with the bur attached in a wind.  Either way, they are yummy.

Jocelyn

I was doing some research on the Chestnut tree and I found a lot about
the blight. I have a small farm in Illinois with a Chestnut tree which
is about 15-20 years old. I have owned the property for only 5 years
now so I'm going off the last owners are telling me. Well, the Chestnut
tree was started from a nut from a very old Chestnut tree, about 100
years old. That tree no longer stands. I wanted to know if this is a
rare tree because it probably is not blight resistant. Also how old
does the tree have to be to start producing nuts? What other trees are
needed for pollination? If it is not blight resistant, how can I
protect it?

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Thanks,
Daniel

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Hey, another great conservation opportunity!  OK > I
guess my Chestnut Deer secrete can come out now... It
is true that most pure American Chestnut trees are
susceptible to Chestnut Blight however there is a big
move towards introducing cross-bred Hybrid Chestnut
trees into the Midwest.  I have planted over 25 acres
of different varieties of Chestnut trees on our
property in northern Manistee County, Michigan. (Among
many different types of other trees) over the past 20
years.  I will say that once the deer get a taste for
certain Chestnuts, they GO WILD getting them.
(Unfortunately for me, as we are trying to harvest
them),. I've even had them go through white acorns to
get to the Chestnuts!  A lot may depend on taste
though, just like Red acorns are not as sweet as White
acorns, Chinese Chestnuts are not as sweet as the
American Chestnuts so a lot may depend on the type of
Hybrid being grown.  This month Cadillac, Michigan
celebrates the annual Chestnut Festival on October
21st.  Foresters are on hand to help you get started.
http://www.cadillacmichigan.com/chestnuts/  with a lot
of recipes, products, and plenty of
Chestnut trees available for planting from the
American Chestnut Council (7192 East 34 Road,
Cadillac, MI 49601 #231-775-7681 ext. 3 ) with Tom
Williams (Conservation District Forester).

The American Chestnut Council is a non-profit 501(c)
(3) organization so please consider joining them for
next year. Tax-deductable dues are only $15 (or $5.
for students, - what a great gift for the kids)!

There are MANY more sites such as:
http://www.chestnutgrowersinc.com/
http://www.oikostreecrops.com/

Join here for much more details:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/American_Chestnut_Trees_and_Hybrids/
  < the links folder is full of help.

^ I co-moderate here as well. One final note, less
than two miles from our land, off the Benzie/Manistee
Co. border, is likely one of the largest growing
American Chestnut Trees in the United States. I will
try to get permission from the land owners to take
some digital images for the groups.  - Len Overmyer
III

--- Harry <grayhawk_45@...> wrote:

> This might sound like a dumb question but will deer
> eat chestnuts.
>  All my years of hunting it seems  the only places
> Ive hunted was
> tagelder swamps.
>
>

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A woman in my horse club sent out the following email:

>Our mature tree is yielding chestnuts. I believe these are the kind
>for "chestnut roasting" used for the traditional holidays. They are
>nice sized for roasting. Would anyone like to have them?
>
>If anyone would like them, you can email me direct if you wish.
>
>sue
>luckyshoefarm@...

IF these are the real thing, I would hate to have them eaten!  I know
where she lives and I can go to her house on Friday to collect them if
anyone wants to propagate these.

Kim Horn
in Virginia

FYI: Also the Cadillac MI Chestnut Festival is October
21st !!!  See the Links Folder. - Len O.

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Looks to be a good crop here this year. Had my first sample, right
off the tree, raw. Of the trees I frequent, they are all heavy laden.

Anybody know what makes a seedling planted March first, 2006, bloom May
25th.  I grafted a scion on it in desperation, as I had no seed nuts, May
16th, and it is blooming now.  Can't tell yet if the scion has taken.  Got
any ideas?

Jocelyn, Canada