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Re: [Amiga-Mediator] Spider II current state of affairs

> Hello,
> I am fairly new owner of a Mediator busboard for my Amiga 3000.
> I would like to buy the Spider II for high speed usb usage.
> I have been seeing a lot of posts that I don't really understand
> regarding the (Poseidon stack?).

Hello Dan,

A few days ago a post appeared in one of the Polish news list in this respect:
http://www.ppa.ltd.pl/forum_ppa/read.php?f=1&i=2699&t=2568

Here is my translation:

-----------------------------------------------
Yes, I have just received a reply from Elbox.
[...]
Here is the most important part of the message from Elbox:
----
Pursuant to the agreement made with Chris Hodges, author of the Poseidon stack,
(mutually agreed official release see here:
http://www.elbox.com/news_02_09_11B.html) Elbox undertook to write hardware
drivers for the Poseidon stack for users of our USB controllers, and the author
of the Poseidon stack undertook to provide problem-free, paid registration of
his shareware software to every Mediator user who asks him for such
registration.

Since making this agreement Elbox has been keeping all his obligations.

Unfortunately, the other party of the agreement, author of the Poseidon stack,
Chris Hodges, has been violating provisions of the agreement for several weeks
now, refusing sales of registration keys to users of Spider cards.

Chris Hodges refuses to answer our messages in this respect.

This dishonest action of Chris Hodges we perceive as an attempt at forcing
Mediator users to buy controllers of the USB 1.1 standard, produced by the E3B
company, with which Chris Hodges is very closely related.

We are now taking steps to cool down Chris Hodges from harming Mediator users.

Independent of this, every Mediator user who wants to use the Spider card and
the Poseidon stack, is fully entitled to demand problem-free registration from
the stack's author: Chris Hodges.

Thank you from your using our technical help.

Best regards,

ELBOX COMPUTER, Technical Support
--------------------------------------------------------

I hope this will help.

Jacek



Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:15 pm

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... I have to agree! Really good point!! Regards -- /Mikael Burman, SWEDEN Amiga #1 A1200T, 128 MB ram, Blizzard 1260/50 w. SCSI-IV (Cyberdrive 24x CDR, Yamaha...
Mikael Burman
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Oct 26, 2003
10:25 am

... Hello Dan, A few days ago a post appeared in one of the Polish news list in this respect: http://www.ppa.ltd.pl/forum_ppa/read.php?f=1&i=2699&t=2568 ... ...
Jacek
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Oct 27, 2003
10:15 pm

I emailed Elbox and got a very similar response from them. I replied saying that although they "could be" correct in their legal claim, it doesn't give a new...
Dan Schallock
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Oct 27, 2003
11:19 pm

Hello Dan ... SNIP... I don't know about you folks, but I will be using the default usb stack in OS4.0. Regards -- Robert Purser (AKA BertyBassett) catch me at...
Robert Purser
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Oct 28, 2003
5:54 pm

... Just waiiiiiitttttt....... youll beee using not now... hehe -- ... *TRANSPLANT & EMULATE - LIVE & DJ ACTS - TRANCE/TECHNO* HomePage:...
Krister S. Skrtic
kicko52 Offline Send Email
Oct 29, 2003
11:59 am

Dear Mediator list participants, ... I'm not surprised to read such statements from Elbox again. Neither am I surprised from the fact that Elbox does post this...
mboehmer_e3b Offline Send Email Oct 28, 2003
8:41 am

Michael, First I have to say I own an Algor, its a nice card and gets the job done well. However: I also had a Spider II I never got to use completly. I would...
Rezendes, Paul GM1
paul_r_rezendes Offline Send Email
Oct 28, 2003
1:03 pm

Hello Dan, ... Has Hodges given you any link where Elbox called him a liar? I am sure he hasn't. It's an old trick of Hodges. He cancelled my registration keys...
Jacek
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Oct 29, 2003
12:13 am

Hi Mr. Rat, ... Some people never get it. Chris doesn't have a Windows PC, so he can't post on this list. Yahoo access methods didn't work on his Amiga...
mboehmer_e3b Offline Send Email Oct 29, 2003
9:44 am

Hi, ... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????????? I dont have a Windows PC. I post to this list quite happily!! with Amiga too!...
a.l.m.buxey@...
kingofraid Offline Send Email
Oct 30, 2003
5:26 pm

Hello a.l.m.buxey@... I also use YAM & only use an Amiga. I have a Spider card & it is great. Seeing as it is the only card to support the USB 2.0 ...
Neil Pearson
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Oct 31, 2003
1:17 am

Thank you for your response Jacek. You bring up some really good points. Besides reading the "soap opera", and hearing comments from posters like you, I...
Dan Schallock
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Oct 29, 2003
5:53 pm

... Michael, it seems you again need more sleep. You are wrong. This post was NOT posted by Elbox in the Polish website. This post was posted by a USER who...
Jacek
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Oct 29, 2003
12:18 am

Hi Mr. Rat, ... Someone posting at 1:18am must know about this. ... I know this. But it doesn't matter. This text was sent by Elbox to at least one of their...
mboehmer_e3b Offline Send Email Oct 29, 2003
9:51 am

Neil, I totally agree, dwelling on the past wrongs and rights is not going to help develop new hardware and software for our ageing systems. We need all...
Darren Ellis
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Nov 2, 2003
9:42 am

... Michael, why all these lies? The same Amiga browser does not make any obstacle for Hodges to send posts to other mailing list in Yahoo. You know it well,...
Jacek
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Nov 4, 2003
7:37 am

... If you'd ever registered any of my software I'd turn off your keys simply because you're an idiotic troll. Now why can't you just stfu and go watch paint...
Robin Cloutman
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Nov 4, 2003
7:44 am

Hi, ... which bit can't people understand. legally you cannot do this. a commercial sale is something that cannot be simply annulled because of the customers...
a.l.m.buxey@...
kingofraid Offline Send Email
Nov 5, 2003
12:21 pm

Hi Ratty, out of the dark again ? ... Good idea. I will consider this proposal. Maybe I should get a trademark for ElBugs also and ask for license fees :) ... ...
mboehmer_e3b Offline Send Email Nov 4, 2003
9:12 am

... I think you should try and see this from his perspective, he has paid for the stack you know... and please... all this naming...it´s like children playing...
Mikael Burman
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Nov 4, 2003
7:20 pm

... What do you want to say with this? When you make an agreement do you mean it is binding you only until "you are happy to work with"? When you make an...
Jacek
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Nov 4, 2003
7:38 am

Hello Jacek, ... I would like to know just how you can provide Elbox with Decent, up-to-date, bug-reports on thier latest beta-spider drivers when you yourself...
Bifford
bifford2020 Offline Send Email
Nov 4, 2003
7:42 am

... What is the current version of Posiedon? Wasn't aware that there had been updates, unless of course I have the larest version. Cheers...
Gerry Harris
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Nov 4, 2003
12:09 pm

Hello Robin, ... Congratulations on your superb IQ and intelligence beyond all measures. I will not comment on your knowledge of consumer rights. There must be...
Jacek
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Nov 4, 2003
7:34 pm

Hello Sam, ... I do not provide bug reports for the *Poseidon* stack. I provide only reports on the *spider.device* driver. ... If you are a Spider user (are...
Jacek
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Nov 4, 2003
7:34 pm

Warning - Please do not read further if you are likely to be offended: Quite frankly I've had more than enough of this nonsense. Guys, we're supposed to be...
Paul
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Nov 5, 2003
12:59 pm

I agree with this. The fact the Elbox does not participate in these threads is not them avoiding issues, it is them being professional and not joining in...
Daniel Schallock
squireaquitaine Offline Send Email
Nov 5, 2003
4:52 pm

... Just felt to say that some people uses miamidx cracked. Why... because they had no luck registering as nobody can today. I registered my just before they...
Krister S. Skrtic
kicko52 Offline Send Email
Nov 6, 2003
9:14 am

... Considering how few ppl actually spent money registering it (and how many use it), it makes practically no difference to me (I earn more in a week than...
Robin Cloutman
rycochet2 Online Now Send Email
Nov 5, 2003
5:42 pm

Hi, ... i , personally, disagree with this part of keys. i believe that the key os the software enabler and if you are selling your amiga and software, then it...
a.l.m.buxey@...
kingofraid Offline Send Email
Nov 6, 2003
1:22 pm
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