n the first place, I don't agree with their
proposal. It was a short peak at their site.<br><br>Of all
the stupid ideas. You know, there really are a lot of
STUPID people on the 'net. I guess this is one example
of why spam persists. For every chickenbonehead
spammer, there's 10 stupid people who have just enough
intelligence to turn on a computer and plug in a phone
line.<br><br>No, it's not spam, but it's sounds like something a
spammer would think of.<br><br>Mail-bombing Congress is
something that should take care of itself. IOW, get enough
fools to go along with this to the point where they end
up filtered out or prosecuted for a DoS attack --
either way results in the same effect.<br><br> <br>Mark

owdy Folks...<br><br>Check out
www.march.org<br><br>I found out about this from my company's intranet
daily notices.<br><br>The campaign appears noble in
it's cause, but it's methodology struck an anti-spam
nerve. <br>Is this UCE, well No. <br>From my read it
feels like an organized net riot.<br><br>So my
question, is there a need to react?<br><br>Andrew

ere's something I posted quite awhile ago to
usenet. It's something involving spam and where I
work.<br><br>Read about it at this
URL:<br><br><a
href=http://x15.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=341571137&CONTEXT=916013538.593166438&\
hitnum=21
target=new>http://x15.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=341571137&CONTEXT=916013538.5931\
66438&hitnu
m=21</a><br><br><br>Mark

very intersting spam analysis and
spam-reporting web site can be found
at:<br><br><a href=http://www.julianhaight.com/spamcop.shtml
target=new>http://www.julianhaight.com/spamcop.shtml</a><br><br>While you're
there, check out the rest of Julian's site
for some interesting links, information. His comments
in Server Info are right on the mark!<br><br>Mark

hese sites provide some very nice domain lookups
and trace route
capabilities.<br><br><a href=http://www.multitrace.com/
target=new>http://www.multitrace.com/</a><br><a href=http://www.domainwatch.com/
target=new>http://www.domainwatch.com/</a><br><br>I've added them to the LINK
list here.<br><br>Mark

ou have got to read this
story!!!<br><br><a href=http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/981221/america_on_2.html
target=new>http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/981221/america_on_2.html</a><br><br>AOL comes
crashing down HARD on spammers!<br><br>This
almost makes me feel guilty for canceling my charter AOL
membership after 6½ years. Nahhh... forget I said that, I
must be feeling too much holiday spirit. Still it's
great to see the AOL behemoth establishing case law and
precedent on the nature of spam as theft.<br><br>Seasonal
cheers!<br><br>Mark

n the NEWS section of this site, check out the
News Clipper for headlines. I just found
this:<br><br><a
href=http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ap/technology/story.html?s=v/ap/199812\
19/tc/aol_spam_lawsuits_1.html
target=new>http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ap/technology/story.html?s=v/ap/\
19981219/tc
/aol_spam_lawsuits_1.html</a><br><br>Quote from the article:<br><br>In a lawsuit
filed in
U.S District Court in Manhattan on Friday, America
Online Inc. (NYSE:AOL - news) accused The Christian
Brothers and its principal, Jason Vale, of sending
millions of e-mail messages to its members.<br><br>Mark

ey all, just dropping a line to let you know
that Unisyn Software is giving a free copy of SpamEx
with every purchase of AutoMate 4 Professional. This
offer begins Dec 7th and will run through the end of
the month.<br><br>So... if you were planning on
purchasing AutoMate Pro, I'd wait till monday.<br><br>the
site info is as
follows:<br><a href=http://www.unisyn.com
target=new>http://www.unisyn.com</a><br><br>-d

evealing about you, your computer, and your
ISP.<br><br>Use this
URL:<br><br><a href=http://www.consumer.net/Analyze/index.asp
target=new>http://www.consumer.net/Analyze/index.asp</a><br><br>And don't
worry... this isn't a scam! It's a consumer
education tool. You should know just exactly how much and
what kind of information can be gathered through your
browser. <br><br>Mark

ust another reminder to visitors and members of
this club... Don't forget to visit the LINKS section
here. There are now 21 links listed. These links offer
a wealth of resources, tips, and tools to help
people win the battle against spam in their inbox and on
the internet in general.<br> <br>Today I
added:<br><br><a href=http://www.spam-news.com/
target=new>http://www.spam-news.com/</a><br><br>Regards,<br><br>Mark

hanks!

esterday, 10/12/98, the house passed the
Anti-sLamming Amendments Act (HR3888). A couple of weeks ago,
the Commerce Committee REMOVED the controversial
Anti-spam provisions in Title IV of the legislation. The
old language was replaced with some "Sense of
Congress" language in Title II, Section 201.<br><br>THIS IS
A GOOD THING!<br><br>You can read more about it at:
<a href=http://www.ybecker.net/legislative/nomurk/
target=new>http://www.ybecker.net/legislative/nomurk/</a><br><br>I now include
this (below) in all my spam
complaints:<br><br>This message is compliant with HR3888, Section 201,
paragraph 2, as passed by the House of Representatives on
12 October 98: "2) It is the responsibility of the
private sector to use [this] opportunity promptly to
adopt, implement and enforce measures to deter and
prevent the improper use of unsolicited commercial
electronic mail."<br><br>Esp. when I CC the spammer in those
complaints and s/h/it has used one of those "complies with
new email law" disclaimers. <br><br>Loverly, isn't
it? Now... if we can just get the ball rolling to
pass HR 1748.<br><br>Mark

as anyone been keeping up with the initiatives
and consolidation that the DMA is currently working
on? I've been catching bits and pieces here and there
but haven't been able to get a comprehensive run
down.<br><br>I think that what is happening in the
DMA/Government arena will affect us in how we deal with Spam and
other issues of net usage. <br><br>If you've got any
good info, please post it. I'm sure there are others
who will be interested.<br><br>thanks in
advance!<br><br>-d

hat's the headline at this
URL:<br><br><a href=http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/981009/bdv.html
target=new>http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/981009/bdv.html</a><br><br>We see an awful
lot of "stock pick" and "investment
opportunity" spams so this seems like something people
fighting spam should know about.<br><br>The address
mentioned in the article is:
<br>Cyberfraud@...<br><br>---<br>Mark

his is an invitation for all members of the
Anti-Spam group to meet in the chat room this Monday at
9:00 EST. Monday Night Football has been pretty boring
lately and the NHL hasn't started in earnest
yet.<br><br>Let's come prepared with topics and make this club more
useful. Whaddayathink?<br><br>No need to RSVP. Just be
there!

orry about the use of the acronym, NDN, for
non-delivery notification. I think the rest of the world calls
them 'ndels'.<br><br>The offender did not spam AOL.
They sent thousands of messages to AOL but many of the
addresses did not exist. Each message set the "notify if
there is a problem address" to my domain. Thus, the
site from BellSouth causes an email flood from AOL to
me.<br><br>I have since found that prosecution has not begun
because of a problem involving jurisdiction. Now the FBI
is arguing with other authorities and the offender
will likely never get charged.<br><br>At this point
the federal agencies are causing more problems than
they are solving.

f you're relatively new online or to posting to
newsgroups and message boards you might want to protect your
your ISP account and email address from becoming a
"spam trap" (ie. on every spammer's 15 million email
addresses CD). Here's something I suggest doing:<br><br>1)
Get a free email account that you only use when
posting to Usenet Newsgroups.<br><br>2) Get another free
email account (preferably with POP3 access) and use
that to subscribe to mailing Lists.<br><br>3) Get
another free email account and use that on chat boards,
IRC or what have you. <br><br>4) Get another free
email account and use that for InterNIC and other
online registrations.<br> <br>This way you won't need to
"MUNGE" your address -- you can post with a WORKING email
addy. No misunderstandings. And you'll have some idea
what kinds of email to expect before you even check
for it.<br><br>Partial list of web-based, FREE EMAIL
services:<br><br>Netaddress.com/USA.NET (includes
POP3)<br>Iname.com<br>Yahoo.com<br>hotmail.com<br>mailexcite.com<br>bigfoot.com<\
br>businessweek.com<br>zdnet.com<br>geocities.com<br>netscape.net<br><br>And
many, many more are out there.<br><br>Mark

hope everyone checks the links page
occasionally. I and others have added quite a few in the last
week or so. You'll find some very useful resources
there. If you're lost and looking for antispam
information the link pages can probably save you time and
aggravation.<br><br>Mark

gt; <br>&gt; From reading the headers, I
determined that the <br>&gt; NDN's were coming from AOL but
the actual <br>&gt; messages were coming from an
address in <br>&gt; Bellsouth.net. By emailing
abuse@... <br>&gt; we easily identified the offender.
<br>&gt; <br><br>I'm not sure what the "NDN's" are you
refer to. Not familiar with that acronym (but it's so
hard to keep up on these nowadays). <br><br>Did
anything posted here help?<br><br>You say they were from
AOL itself, but via Bellsouth.net. I'm confused... I
thought AOL didn't allow relays and used a proprietary
email program that made massive spam runs by users
difficult or inefficient enough so as to discourage it. Was
AOL bouncing messages back to your forged domain? If
so... certainly not AOL's fault.<br> <br>I think it's
cool that Bellsouth.net gave you a choice. I take it
you allowed it to continue long enough to make a
clear case against the spammer. There's been a
persistant spammer or three from Bellsouth reported on NANAE
and Spam-L in the past few weeks. Was that your
problem spammer? <br><br>I'll understand if you're
limited by what you can say due to pending litigation. If
you're looking for legal precedents to support your
case, check out a case involving FLOWERS.COM from last
year. They sued and won due to domain forgery.<br>
<br>Nice to hear your follow-up. Good luck!<br><br>Mark

n 9/2 I shared a problem with this club. The
problem was real and it involved AOL but it was not
initiated from AOL. We have been successful in stopping
this spamming incident. This is what I
learned.<br><br>From reading the headers, I determined that the NDN's
were coming from AOL but the actual messages were
coming from an address in Bellsouth.net. By emailing
abuse@... we easily identified the offender. <br><br>*** We
were given an option to either stop this immediately
by cancelling his account or allowing this to go
further until they get enough evidence to prosecute.
Guess which option our organization chose. ***<br><br>I
don't have the specifics as to what happened at
Bellsouth.net but two weeks later the NDels stopped.

f course I left some off... I gotta give you
other guys something to do! ;-)<br><br>Those are good
ones, go on and add them to the links
page.<br><br>BTW... I didn't know there was a web board there. Guess
that shows how long it's been since I visited the
site. I really do have to get out more.<br><br>Mark

would like to note that there's a dedicated
Antispam channel on IRC.<br> <br>Use a DALNET IRC server
and join the #NANAE channel. NANAE is an acronym for
the News.admin.net-abuse.email newsgroup.
<br><br>Maybe we'll see some of you there
sometime.<br><br>Mark<br>----<br>Speech isn't free when delivered postage due.
Stop junk
email!

spam to AOL users? <br> <br>First thing to do
is look at the FULL header in the spam message
(check your mail client menus to display FULL headers).
Carefully follow the RECEIVE lines and trace backwards
(top-down) to find the originating IP address and trace that
IP number back to the originating ISP (see:
InterNIC.net). Then do a WHOIS on that ISP to get the contact
info (see: InterNIC.net again). If it's urgent, use
the contact information at InterNIC to CALL THEM ON
THE PHONE or go to that provider's web site for more
info. The larger ISPs have 800 and even emergency
numbers for these situations.<br> <br>Sounds to me like
you're being subjected to Denial of Service (DoS)
attack. Such instances are treated very quickly and
responsibly by most legit ISPs.<br><br>For tutorials on
deciphering headers in email, check out some of the anti-spam
sites I posted in the LINKS section of this
"club."<br><br>Good luck!<br><br>Mark

just posted some more links to anti-spam
resources. <br> <br>If you haven't checked out the Usenet
newsgroup, news.admin.net-abuse.email, be sure to do so.
<br><br>If you don't have a decent news server available
(and there are a lot of ISPs running pitiful NNTP
servers), check it out via the web at Dejanews.com. Since
it gets about 400+ posts a day, the best way to
follow it is via a NNTP (newsreader) client. For a
spam-free, reliable NNTP service, check out Newsguy.com. For
a decent newsreader/NNTP client, I suggest you
forget using Netscape or IE and get Free Agent at
forteinc.com.<br><br> <br>Speech isn't free when delivered postage due.
Stop junk email!<br><br>Mark

ave you contacted AOL customer support? They
should be able to end the problem. What you may want to
do is use somekind of filtraton or spam
extermination program. The only problem here is that most of
the good spam blockers are only for POP3 mail
accounts (AOL though they have been promising for sometime
now, has not implemented POP3 support). <br><br>Final
thought, ditch AOL and go with someone like earthlink or
mindspring. (no, i don't work for either company, but i've
dealt with both and have been very happy with the mix
of services and support.) besides we all know that
AOL sucks. <br><br>Hope this helps.<br><br>anyone
else?

omeone is spamming AOL and defining their "Reply
To:" field as an address in my domain. I am looking
for suggestions to get this stopped. I am seeing
about 2 messages per minute of Non Delivery
Notifications from AOL.