I use SpamCop, the free service part.

I have not used the (pay) spam filtering service.

But when I get really bad spamming emails, I report them to SpamCop. All I need
to do is sign in with my name and password, and then cut and paste the full
headers of the email into the box on the site.

You find out who the spammer probably is, and then you report it with a click.

E. Sheppard
Kentucky


--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, irishmasms <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, altabear <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Irish - I have looked at SpamCop - but haven't known anyone who's
> > actually used it.  I tried to see how they actually filter (like which
> > appliance, etc.) but couldn't see anything like "how it works".
>
> You vector your mail feeds through spamcop, or use their RBLs with your
equipment. Both seems to work well.
>
>
> > heard that the Barracuda Spam Filter works quite well, so might prefer a
> > service that uses it.  The CudaMail service has 6 large ones I believe.
> > Do you know if anyone else uses the Barracuda's?
>
> Most of my associates have pulled their Barracuda deployments, issues with
their licensing & GPL violations (simply Linux under the hood of their boxen).
>
> > Postini is Google, so
> > I'm not sure what they use.
>
> Google purchased/acquired Postini; for their developed filtering
system/rules/etc.
>

--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, altabear <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Irish - I have looked at SpamCop - but haven't known anyone who's
> actually used it.  I tried to see how they actually filter (like which
> appliance, etc.) but couldn't see anything like "how it works".

You vector your mail feeds through spamcop, or use their RBLs with your
equipment. Both seems to work well.


> heard that the Barracuda Spam Filter works quite well, so might prefer a
> service that uses it.  The CudaMail service has 6 large ones I believe.
> Do you know if anyone else uses the Barracuda's?

Most of my associates have pulled their Barracuda deployments, issues with their
licensing & GPL violations (simply Linux under the hood of their boxen).

> Postini is Google, so
> I'm not sure what they use.

Google purchased/acquired Postini; for their developed filtering
system/rules/etc.

--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, "abudhani08" <abudhani08@...> wrote:
> I have deleted all mail at my gmail and clean up all deleted mail from my
outlook express, but still receiving the messages.

It is very unlikely that yahoo is sending these messages. To see what is
happening, please copy the message headers here.

With outlook express you can get to the headers using these instructions:

http://www.tiadon.com/OEHeaders.htm

esa

--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, altabear <no_reply@...> wrote:
> Thanks Irish - I have looked at SpamCop - but haven't known anyone who's
> actually used it.  I tried to see how they actually filter (like which
> appliance, etc.) but couldn't see anything like "how it works".

Spamcop.net is a reputable service. I've used their reporting part every now and
then, and they've been around for a while.

They use their own software, as far as I know. They also publish the blocklist
which is compiled from the spam they receive and users report.

The persons behind the service were (might still be, I haven't been following
them too carefully lately) active contributors in anti-spam community.


>  I have
> heard that the Barracuda Spam Filter works quite well, so might prefer a
> service that uses it.  The CudaMail service has 6 large ones I believe.
> Do you know if anyone else uses the Barracuda's?

I used to configure and manage a Barracuda for a customer. It is basically
SpamAssassin with some own rules and a user interface for dummies. Barracuda as
a device has a bad reputation within anti-spam community due to braindead
default settings, which generate spam to the internet (apparently the default
has been changed, after a few year of refusing to see the problem).

Another reason for the bad rep is the user interface: because it is ment for
dummies, quite often it is used by dummies who have no idea what they're doing,
thus creating problems for the rest of us.

If configured properly it is pretty good, but a lot depends on the
configuration.

>  Postini is Google, so I'm not sure what they use.

As far as I know they use their own sw. They've been around for a while as well,
although previously as an independent company.

You can also use google for your e-mail, and the spam filtering is reasonable.
Many hosting providers provide spamassassin for filtering, which can work pretty
well.

I used to run my own SpamAssassin, and it was great on the filtering side, but a
bitch to maintain, since you'll have to maintain the whole linux system,
including MTA. Unfortunaty I don't have the time any more.

Currently I use SpamAssassin at my hosting provider, bluehost, and it works
pretty well, catching most of the spam. Secondary layer is provided by google
mail, and it catches most of the rest.

What is best for you? Well, hard to say. If you want to try out something else
than googlemail, I'd try out spamcop.net. If that doesn't cut the mustard,
postini and/or cudamail.

esa

Thanks Irish - I have looked at SpamCop - but haven't known anyone who's
actually used it.  I tried to see how they actually filter (like which
appliance, etc.) but couldn't see anything like "how it works".  I have
heard that the Barracuda Spam Filter works quite well, so might prefer a
service that uses it.  The CudaMail service has 6 large ones I believe.
Do you know if anyone else uses the Barracuda's?  Postini is Google, so
I'm not sure what they use.

--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, irishmasms <no_reply@...> wrote:

> Dave - have you looked at Spamcop <http://www.spamcop.net/> at all? I
have been using their free service for years now, and have been
satisfied with their service.
> Irish

> --- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, altabear no_reply@ wrote:
> > I know that a lot of the anti-spam appliances, like the Barracuda
Spam Firewall <http://www.barracudanetworks.ca/spam-firewall-yg.aspx>
>  > may be cost-prohibitive for home users, but has anyone tried one of
the managed
>  > anti-spam filtering services like CudaMail
<http://www.cudamail.com/default-yg.aspx>  or Postini
<http://www.cudamail.com/default-yg.aspx%3E%20or%20Postini >  ? I think
that they are geared toward small business users rather than home users
though.
> [snipped]




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, altabear <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>
> I know that a lot of the anti-spam appliances, like the Barracuda Spam
> Firewall <http://www.barracudanetworks.ca/spam-firewall-yg.aspx>    may
> be cost-prohibitive for home users, but has anyone tried one of the
> managed anti-spam filtering services like CudaMail
> <http://www.cudamail.com/default-yg.aspx>   or Postini
> <http://www.postini.com/>  ?  I think that they are geared toward small
> business users rather than home users though.
[snipped]

Dave - have you looked at Spamcop <http://www.spamcop.net/> at all? I have been
using their free service for years now, and have been satisfied with their
service.

Irish

I know that a lot of the anti-spam appliances, like the Barracuda Spam
Firewall <http://www.barracudanetworks.ca/spam-firewall-yg.aspx>    may
be cost-prohibitive for home users, but has anyone tried one of the
managed anti-spam filtering services like CudaMail
<http://www.cudamail.com/default-yg.aspx>   or Postini
<http://www.postini.com/>  ?  I think that they are geared toward small
business users rather than home users though.  Like if you have say your
own mail server, and say 1 user or more for your mail domain.

Instead of paying hundreds or a thousand or so for an appliance, you pay
just a small amount per month and get your mail filtered by their high
end appliances, and then delivered to your own mailbox.

I think that trying to make Outlook rules to catch spam can be a
neverending battle, since the spammers change their mail text so often.
A lot of the appliances auto-update with new spam rules and signatures,
so you don't have to keep making new rules yourself.  That's why I'm
curious about what kind of experience anyone may have had with these
kind of services.

Last time I checked, I think it was about $29 a month for CudaMail
filtering - so, not too expensive.  Not sure about Postini pricing
though.

Dave





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Dear All ...,

I am now receiving spam from last year's archive files from yahoogoups.com
[keretapi@yahoogroups.com], [railwayphotography@yahoogroups.com],
KRLMania@yahoogroups.com] to my Outlook Express. The spams look like coming from
my gmail account. I have no longer be a member of those yahoogroups account
since last year and received no mail since I discontinued my membership until
recently.

The problem is my gmail account did not receive the spam, so it is not listed in
the incomming mail at gmail, but my outlook express keep receiving the spam
mail.

I have deleted all mail at my gmail and clean up all deleted mail from my
outlook express, but still receiving the messages.

If I activated my outlook express, it will receive 676 messages from those
yahoogroups.

Please advise how to prevent this from happening ...

Regards,

Hello,

I think that one good solution is to provide the e-mail without any material
but a link for the material hosted somewhere on internet. If your address
was blocked so it´s probably that lot of your destinataries do not liked the
content.

Hope it helps.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: aliasman6


To my understanding, the information in question has always been in the body
of the email. I've suggested the possibility of attaching the newsletter as
a PDF, although I am aware that many institutions these days will filter
attachments as well, so I'm not sure if that will benefit us or not. Is
there a manner of "alerting" RBL providers, etc of the release of this, etc?

Any suggestions would be most welcome.


[Mod note: Send a plain text email with links to content of newsletter
hosted on web somewhere. Haved simple topic summaries ("blurbs") in email.]

I work at a law school that publishes and annual newsletter involving topics on
sexual violence to a large number of subscribers. In the past, the subject
matter contained in this newsletter has caused problems with us being
blacklisted from various mail service providers. I'm wondering if anyone has any
suggestions on how I can direct folks here to distribute this out in a safe,
ethical manner without negatively impacting our communication services.

To my understanding, the information in question has always been in the body of
the email. I've suggested the possibility of attaching the newsletter as a PDF,
although I am aware that many institutions these days will filter attachments as
well, so I'm not sure if that will benefit us or not. Is there a manner of
"alerting" RBL providers, etc of the release of this, etc? Any suggestions would
be most welcome.


[Mod note: Send a plain text email with links to content of newsletter
hosted on web somewhere. Haved simple topic summaries ("blurbs") in email.]

--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, "Claire Doyle" <claire@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, new to the group, with a question:
>
> I recently forwarded an article from Mens Health magazine, and since
> then have been getting emails masquerading as being from Mens Health
> that are actually from shyproud.com (viagra sales).
>
> My question: is it likely that the security of the Mens Health
> website was compromised, or is it more likely that some sort of
> spyware on my end picked up that I had forwarded the article?
>

I would say coincidental.  Spam masquerading as coming from Mens Health have
been common for some time, now.

Hi, new to the group, with a question:

I recently forwarded an article from Mens Health magazine, and since then have
been getting emails masquerading as being from Mens Health that are actually
from shyproud.com (viagra sales).

My question: is it likely that the security of the Mens Health website was
compromised, or is it more likely that some sort of spyware on my end picked up
that I had forwarded the article?

Va. Supreme Court Strikes Down State's Anti-Spam Law
By Tom Jackman, Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, September 12, 2008; 2:59 PM


The Virginia Supreme Court today invalidated the state's "anti-spam"
law, designed to prevent the sending of masses of unwanted e-mail, by
saying the law broadly violated the First Amendment right to freedom
of speech, in particular anonymous speech.

The ruling, arising from the Loudoun County criminal prosecution of
Jeremy Jaynes of Raleigh, N.C., was also remarkable because the
Supreme Court reversed itself: Just six months ago, the same court
upheld the anti-spam law by a 4-3 margin. But Jaynes's attorneys asked
the court to reconsider, typically a long shot in appellate law, and
the court not only reconsidered but changed its mind.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091201211\
.html>

Hi,

Please advise DNSBL which give minimum false positives
(compared to other DNSBL).

Thanks.

Actually it sounds like she wants to opt out of their marketing. Somewhere in
your account profile on paypal you will find marketing preferences or something
to that effect - maybe email preferences. Anyways, check or uncheck the box to
send you advertising - they get tricky so be sure to read what they say and know
what you're saying with your checkboxes.

Good luck! Oh and make sure to type in paypal.com in the address bar of your
browser, don't trust the link in an email - it may look right but it could have
a hidden link "behind" it.

Cheers,
Falcon

[top-post. quoted text removed by mod.]

The website is http://www.siteadvisor.com . Its very useful. However I
can't post on their website, even when I am a member.

Sincerely,
bigoman

I totally agree with the moderator's note.  I've been using PayPal for several
years and very rarely receive emails from them (maybe once a year.)  A lot of
spammers and phishers do pretend to send messages from PayPal and it's not
always easy to tell the wheat from the chaff.

Anyone can forge an email header and pretend to be someone they are not, and I
imagine this is probably the case with the bulk of the messages you have been
receiving.  One way to test this would be to log onto PayPal, click on My
Account, then Add or Edit Email.  There you can tell the real PayPal to contact
you at a different email address (assuming you have more than one.  You can
easily create another if you don't).  If, after this, you continue to receive
emails at your old email addy, then you'll know for sure those messages are spam
or phishing attempts.


mariane321 <mariane@...> wrote:                               Paypal
keeps sending me emails even though I don't want it to.
  Can this be considered as spam? Can I complain to someone?
  (I tried using their system to ask them to stop but it didn't
  do anything).

  I wish to keep the payment info they send me, I just don't wan't
  any commercial annoucements from them.

  Thank you

  Mariane

  [Mod note: Many of these could be phishing attempts spewed from botnets.
  Go to directly PayPal's web site, login, check your preferences and
  options. Do NOT go to PayPal via links found in an email!]







---------------------------------
Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Paypal keeps sending me emails even though I don't want it to.
Can this be considered as spam? Can I complain to someone?
(I tried using their system to ask them to stop but it didn't
do anything).

I wish to keep the payment info they send me, I just don't wan't
any commercial annoucements from them.

Thank you

Mariane


[Mod note: Many of these could be phishing attempts spewed from botnets.
Go to directly PayPal's web site, login, check your preferences and
options. Do NOT go to PayPal via links found in an email!]

My place uses Mozilla. It comes with a good spam filter, easy to
configure.

Mariane



--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, "Dominik Moreitz" <dmoreitz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all, just want to get an idea of what everyone things is best for
> small business anti-spam? We have our own mail server, but should we
> look at a plugin to the server, our own anti-spam server
> (linux/spamassassin?), client/PC based anti-spam software or maybe even
> a service like messagelabs?
>
> I would love to hear what small business users are doing at the moment,
> what works and doesn't, both from features and costs.
>

This doesn't require you to run exchange server, you can run any mailserver
with antigen





Regards,

Sufian Mehmood Sheikh

   _____



   _____

From: Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dominik Moreitz
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:25 AM
To: Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Anti-spam] Re: What's best for small business?



--- In Anti-spam@yahoogrou <mailto:Anti-spam%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,
"Sufian Mehmood Sheikh"
<sufian@...> wrote:
>
> Try using Microsoft Antigen
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sufian Mehmood Sheikh

Unfortunately we do not run Microsoft Exchange as our mail server,
otherwise I would have a look....

I guess what I am trying to make my mind up about most is:
1. Server side software
2. 3rd party service
3. Client-side software

:-)





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, "Sufian Mehmood Sheikh"
<sufian@...> wrote:
>
> Try using Microsoft Antigen
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sufian Mehmood Sheikh

Unfortunately we do not run Microsoft Exchange as our mail server,
otherwise I would have a look....

I guess what I am trying to make my mind up about most is:
1. Server side software
2. 3rd party service
3. Client-side software


:-)

--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, "Dominik Moreitz" <dmoreitz@...> wrote:
> Hi all, just want to get an idea of what everyone things is best for
> small business anti-spam? We have our own mail server, but should we
> look at a plugin to the server, our own anti-spam server
> (linux/spamassassin?), client/PC based anti-spam software or maybe even
> a service like messagelabs?
> I would love to hear what small business users are doing at the moment,
> what works and doesn't, both from features and costs.

I'd be curious to know too. Some people, including the Congressional
representative for this district, have completely stopped accepting
e-mail, require all contact via Web form. But the same software that
spams blogs ought to be capable of spamming these forums, so I don't
see this as a longterm solution. I'm especially interested if anyone
has used a Web form only for first contact, then a white-only SMTP
system for subsequent contact with repeat senders. I'm very especially
interested if anyone has countered blog/web spamming by requiring
any sort of Turing test to establish the right to use the blog/web for[u]m
the very first time.


--
Nobody in their right mind likes spammers, nor their automated assistants.
To open an account here, you must demonstrate you're not one of them.
Please spend a few seconds to try to read the text-picture in this box:

/--------------------------------------------------------------\
|               .       ,       .  .   .__       .             |
|               |. . __-+-*._   |\/| _.[__)._.* _| _           |
|            \__|(_|_)  | |[ )  |  |(_.[__)[  |(_](/,          |
\-(Rendered by means of <http://www.schnoggo.com/figlet.html>)-/

Then enter your best guess of the text (10-20 chars) into this TextField:
           +--------------------+
           |                    |
           +--------------------+

--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, "Capri" <capri@...> wrote:
> "- Next require the new ID pass some sort of Turing
>    test, not a Captcha that can be cracked in a fraction
>    of a second, but something that demonstrates a real
>    human comprehended a question and thought about an
>    answer, maybe did a Google search to find the answer,
>    and entered the correct answer, which takes a minute
>    or two for most people to complete."
> --
>
> Amen! That would be thankfully a user-friendly way of blocking spammers
> without punishing users with visual impairments the way that awful captcha
> code does.

Ah, glad you like my opinion (anti GIF captcha, pro something else).
Have you seen the many samples posted to various newsgroups?
Search Google Groups for the string:
   "Nobody in their right mind likes spammers, nor their automated assistants."
which is a preface to the various alternatives to GIF captcha.

> --
> "It will take some programming to implement such a system.
> Is there anybody interested in working with me on design of such a system?"
> I would if I was any good at programming, but would be glad to test it out
> when it's been realized.

You don't have to be an expert at programming to help *design* the overall
system. For example, which of the many different types of short-answer
Turing tests do you like best? What sequence of tests would be optimal?
Under what conditions should the system suspect an automated new-account
attempt and consequently impose stricter more difficult tests?

> > nuala-alexander
>
> Yeah, I got some of those, but I got a bunch of others
> too. As soon as I banned a lot of nuala-alexanders, I
> got a shitload of some completely different name
> spamming in her place. Most of the spam was for Windows
> Vista piracy, and one other scam I forgot. Same with you?
> --
> There are a ton of those addresses, junelle-coyne savanna-terk and
> sherry-heath have started up again after a long silence. Now they have new
> addresses to ban.

Yeah, I've gotten a lot of those in my Yahoo! Groups too.

By the way, something that would be helpful for those, which I'm considering
setting up: (1) daemons that watch for specific kinds of events, such as
spammers posting to a Group. (2) alert systems to people who might be
interested in prompt notice of such an event, such as owners/moderators
of the groups. (3) cross-links from 1 to 2, so that when a spammer hits
a particular Group all the owners/moderators who have personal alert systems
can be notified. Are you interested?

So how would the daemon know that a message to a Group is spam?
First, if it's from one of these already known patterns of spammers,
such as you listed above.
Second, we could have a convention that if anyone in the Group posts
a Reply that just says SPAM in the body, that would be a trigger for
the moderator to be notified of whatever message it was in reply to.
Correct SPAM markings would quickly ban the spammer.
False alarms would get the false alarmer banned instead.
In any case, the owner/moderator wouldn't have to check the Group
constantly, which is a royal pain. Instead the daemon would catch
repeat-pattern offenders, and the first regular member of the Group
who sees the spam would catch new-pattern spammers or one-time spammers.
So the owner/moderator wouldn't have to check the Group hardly ever,
except when the daemon or a regular member spots a new spam.

So how would the daemon see the messages in a Group? The daemon would
have several Yahoo accounts of its own, log in automatically and go to the
groups to see what new messages have been posted. Setting up new accounts
and joining groups would be done manually just once per daemon-account
or per group respectively. I might automate some of that, so that
anyone owning/moderating a group who wants to use this service would go
to a Web form to verify his/her e-mail address and say which Groups
need watching, and then I'd get an alert saying that somebody needed one
of my daemon accounts to watch that group, so then I'd manually do the
necessary stuff.

Try using Microsoft Antigen





Regards,

Sufian Mehmood Sheikh

   _____



   _____

From: Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dominik Moreitz
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:37 AM
To: Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Anti-spam] What's best for small business?



Hi all, just want to get an idea of what everyone things is best for
small business anti-spam? We have our own mail server, but should we
look at a plugin to the server, our own anti-spam server
(linux/spamassassin?), client/PC based anti-spam software or maybe even
a service like messagelabs?

I would love to hear what small business users are doing at the moment,
what works and doesn't, both from features and costs.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi all, just want to get an idea of what everyone things is best for
small business anti-spam? We have our own mail server, but should we
look at a plugin to the server, our own anti-spam server
(linux/spamassassin?), client/PC based anti-spam software or maybe even
a service like messagelabs?

I would love to hear what small business users are doing at the moment,
what works and doesn't, both from features and costs.

Hi, Alex,
     Thank you, very interesting! I note that:
> <snip>
> So, i sent a complaint to everyone involved; comcast where the message
> started, schlund hosting company, who hosts the svrpress.com domain,
and
> the tech contact for svrpress.com itself, and iuniverse contacts.
> <snip>
> A bit later, I received this reply, directly from the spammer:
> <snip>
So I guess we can conclude that either the comcast, schlund, svrpress or
iuniverse contact forwarded your complaint directly to the spammer or
one of those contacts is the spammer!
     You may be interested in Spammer Rules
<http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=930> , especially
Rule #1 Lexical Contradiction and Sharp's Corollary, Rule #2 Crissman's
Corollary and Rule #3 Spinosa's Corollary.  [:)]


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, "Capri" <capri@...> wrote:
> [Mod note: No such "rash" has been observed or verified.
> Please cite your source!]

Well, I have not seen such rash, but my experience shows that very
little legit e-mail comes from .info tld. Even if the www-site is from
.info tld, the e-mail comes from a proper .com domain.

This view seem to have been shared by at least some at SPAM-L,
according  to the list archive.

"- Next require the new ID pass some sort of Turing
    test, not a Captcha that can be cracked in a fraction
    of a second, but something that demonstrates a real
    human comprehended a question and thought about an
    answer, maybe did a Google search to find the answer,
    and entered the correct answer, which takes a minute
    or two for most people to complete."
--

Amen! That would be thankfully a user-friendly way of blocking spammers
without punishing users with visual impairments the way that awful captcha
code does.
--
"It will take some programming to implement such a system.
Is there anybody interested in working with me on design of such a system?"
I would if I was any good at programming, but would be glad to test it out
when it's been realized.
--

> nuala-alexander

Yeah, I got some of those, but I got a bunch of others
too. As soon as I banned a lot of nuala-alexanders, I
got a shitload of some completely different name
spamming in her place. Most of the spam was for Windows
Vista piracy, and one other scam I forgot. Same with you?
--
There are a ton of those addresses, junelle-coyne savanna-terk and
sherry-heath have started up again after a long silence. Now they have new
addresses to ban.

Capri

"That sounds like a good idea, but I have never seen that option available.
I manage several groups (not this one) and would like to know how to do it.
Would you please post a plain text USASCII file somewhere we can see it,
which tells in detail what an owner/moderator needs to do to set it up?"
--


It's an option in the "settings" section under "Management"

If you go to the "Management" you'll get these areas to click on:

Pending Tasks

Group Activity
Memberships
Web Features
Moderator Activity
Message Posts
Email Commands
The activity area allows you to keep track of group activity, including
email messages, membership changes, web feature usage and changes to the
group's settings.

    Group Settings
Description & Appearance
Membership
Web Tools
Messages
The settings area enables you to edit your group description, posting
options, feature access, and other important settings.

Clicking on "Messages" under the "Settings" area will bring up these
options, and where it says (Edit) is where you click to edit them. The
current settings of each option are shown just after each (Edit) link.

Email Address
(Edit)
Group Email:    ListName@yahoogroups.com

Subject Tag and Footer
(Edit)
Appears in all group postings and digests delivered to members.

Subject Tag:    [ListName]
Footer:    And here is Yahoo's footer:

Posting and Archives
(Edit)
Posting Options

Who can post:    Members
Reply-to:    All members
Moderation:    New members
Attachments:    Remove
What's This?  Spam Filtering:    On

Archive Options

Access:    Members
  Scheduled Messages
These messages are automatically sent to members using the schedule
specified. You can add, edit, or delete these files in your group's Files
section.

So, the (Edit) link under "Posting and Archives) is the one to click for
changing moderation settings. A  '*' has been added in this example to
indicate the options to be checked for an unmoderated list that moderates
new subscribers.

Posting Options
  Who can post
Reply-to
Moderation
Attachments
Spam Filtering

Anyone
All members
*Unmoderated
Distribute
Off

Members
Sender
Moderated
Remove
On

Moderators
Group owner
*New members

Off
Leave group

Archive Options
Access
  Anyone
  Members
  Moderators
  Off

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No, it's the other way around. Spammers make up new e-mail addresses all
the time to start new runs of spam to bypass filters tuned on their old
addresses. On the other hand, a legitimate person might have posted to
a newsgroup or set up a Web site using the same address consistently over
several years.
--

True, but it really can and does work both ways, especially considering the
rash of .info addresses spamming over the past year or so.

Capri


[Mod note: No such "rash" has been observed or verified.
Please cite your source!]

--- In Anti-spam@yahoogroups.com, "realtimespankingsnvegas"
<realtimespankingsnvegas@...> wrote:
> We have put together a listing of the top spam related categories
> and we are asking you to cut and paste all the Spam you receive into
> the correct Spam categories.

How much are you going to pay us for performing all that labor for you?
I estimate it'd take about 3 minutes per spam to read it and figure
out what category it belongs in. I get several hundred spam per day.
So it would take me maybe a thousand minutes (more than 16 hours)
per day. Will you pay me at least the legal minimum wage for that work?

Instead, why don't you write software to scan spam automatically and
figure out (based on various keywords) what category the spam is in?
Then you write software to automatically slurp everything posted
to news.admin.net-abuse.sightings with [email] in Subject field,
and also slurp everything posted to any of the SpamCopies or SpamFromISP
or SpamFrom/8 groups? Then we could write scripts to automatically
post our new spam to one of those places, and you'd take over from that point.