Call from a payphone as there is a 25 cents or so surcharge<br>VERY TIME as per
FCC regs.

From Pete Moss Publications
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Newsletter 1/31/2001 by Linda Formichelli
<a href=http://www.badads.org/newsletter14.shtml
target=new>http://www.badads.org/newsletter14.shtml</a> I (Linda) just finished
writing an article on
pink contracts for Wired magazine. Pink contracts are
secret spammer-friendly contracts offered by Internet
Service Providers in exchange for "risk fees" as high as
$27,000. What this means is that while if a spammer
promises to pay enough, the ISP won't disconnect them for
spamming and consumers' complaints about unwanted spam
will be deliberately<br>ignored. One spammer I
interviewed claimed to have pink contracts with five major
ISPs, including AT&T and PSINet. An associate of the
spammer claims to have pink contracts with 14 major ISPs.
And the anti-spam organization The Spamhaus Project
has just uncovered a pink contract at UUNET (though
he's investigating to find out whether this contract
had actually been signed). Technically, these
spammers aren't violating their ISPs' acceptable use
policies; the contracts don't allow spammers to
actually<br>send bulk e-mail through the ISPs ' servers, but they
do promise, in exchange for the risk fees, not to
take down Web sites advertised through bulk e-mail.
Internet Service Providers pretend to be on your side in
the fight against intrusive spam, but in reality,
many of them are only too willing to sell out your
inbox for a buck. And at the same time that they're
contributing to the spam problem, two to five dollars of your
monthly ISP bill goes towards fighting spam in the form
of abuse desk staff and<br>filtering systems. It
seems they can have their cake and eat it too. You can
see copies of the recently-outed pink contracts here:
AT&T
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still for this kind of abuse from ISPs.
If your ISP is in the list below, please write them
a letter to ask them not to support spammers on
their system. Tell them that their sales staff should
be educated to not intentionally do business
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educational purposes only--its purpose is to help consumers
take action against intrusive advertising.

Excellent, the key seems to be to have an
organized campaign. To hit one spammer at a time with as
many wasted calls as possible in a short time. They
will think they hit pay dirt, only to end with dirt
pay. After a long, long conversation, they must know
that the reason why they are being "phone-bombed" is
the spam. The payphone bit will be tricky. Maybe
calling from work is the answer.

I have heard that some people use a hand held
programmable auto dialer<br>from payphones. In the ANI
(different then caller ID) sent with 800#<br>calls there is
an extra digit indicating a payphone. Some companies
know<br>this and reject payphone calls. Remember they always
can see what number<br>you are calling from. I have
heard of the payphone surcharges causing<br>some
spammers to disconnect their 800#.

Oh my, it is nice to know that there are people
out there who are really serious about this. In the
future people will view this kind of stuff as a kind of
war. We view economic trends as a form of warfare with
tarriff walls and such. So, pretty soon, I suspect that
we will consider all this phreaking and hacking as a
form of guerilla information war.<br><br>With regard
to the caller ID info, they can't all recognize
payphones, right? I mean out of a list of a hundred numbers,
there have to be some that don't have that software.
But even if all my plan does is force them to buy
that software (or steal it more likely as spammers are
not known for their consideration of other peoples
hard work) at least I will have forced that expense on
them, right?<br><br>I currently have my spam filters
set to route all spam with 1-800, 1-877, or 1-888 to
a special folder. I will have a huge list before
too long (there have to be several hundred there
already).

Toll free #'s don't get caller ID. They
get<br>[A]utomatic<br>[N]umber<br>[I]dentification<br>which is different. They
may get it on thier
bill<br>when it comes in *OR* the will get it live as calls
comes in SIMILAR<br>to Caller ID. But it is different.
9-1-1 systems also get<br>ANI instead of CID. They may
also get ALI which
is<br>Automatic<br>Location<br>Indentification<br>which give the ADDRESS of the
caller.<br>It is always
best to call spammers' 800#s from<br>payphone. The ANI
from those payphone will have an extra digit to ID
calls from<br>Prisons<br>Hotels<br>regular public
payphones.<br>The recipient, who is payin for the incoming call
after all,<br>can set up system to refuse any and all
calls from<br>pay phone.<br>BUT I have found only a FEW
that do that. If you called<br>them over and over
again, EACH call would cost them<br>c. 25 cents or so.
If you went to a large bank of<br>payphone at a bus
depot or airport and had a handheld<br>auto dialer, you
could dial at each payphne. Some would get<br>a busy
after first call, but spammers that have a bunch of
answrring machines on a bunch of line will get charged over
and over again.<br>I am explaining the theory here,
nit saying "go out and do it". But some
people<br>have done this in the past.

hangin' out in bus stations, makin calls at
payphones. I don't know if I hate spam that much. But hell,
any chance to hang out down at the bus station is
worth it!<br><br>It would be an interesting experiment,
but in order for this to function on a large scale,
it's the kind of thing that alot of people would have
to do. It would have to be a dusguised sort of thing
to. You want to talk to the people as long as
possible without actually buying anything, cause it's the
people that cost the money.<br><br>Am I to understand
that thes 1-800 numbers don't have people at the other
end ... I've never called one, I am not familiar with
how the "business" end of this works, if you want to
call it business, to me it is just a scam.

I don't mean to sound critical or anything, just curious - you've never called
an 800 number in your life?

Spammers are always use false names, email
address, and etc. and almost impossible to trace them
back. But there's always a beneficiary of such
spamming. So be aware of these beneficiaries and kill them.
Here's a list of these spamming
beneficiaries:<br><a href=http://antispammer.bizland.com/
target=new>http://antispammer.bizland.com/</a>

My filters don't always work. But I did recently
find a new service that is helping to fight the good
fight. The service is called Spamex
(<a href=http://www.spamex.com target=new>http://www.spamex.com</a>) and the
product doesn't use filters at all.

Sometimes they have a human at the other
end.<br>Sometimes a machine. The good part is the FCC<br>mandated
surcharge that the RECIPIENT of the call must pay.<br>This
is idea for those who are waiting for a
bus,<br>train etc. or whose job requires that they
spend<br>time in places with a lot of patphones.

WIRE-FRAUD: If Mandy were not really an "Adult
Friend Finder" staff member or a co-conspirator,
wouldn't AFF delete Mandy's account and forfeit all
payments? What do YOU think?. AFF thru its alias "Mandy"
created THOUSANDS of Yahoo ID's to promote Adult Friend
Finder. To verify, go to
<a href=http://search.profiles.yahoo.com/interests?.oc=t&.kw=mandygirl&.sb=1
target=new>http://search.profiles.yahoo.com/interests?.oc=t&.kw=mandygirl&.sb=1<\
/a> and see over 100 profiles starting with
"mandygir", *ALL* 26 years of age "Last Updated: July 07,
2000"." Cool Link and/or deep links steer you to
"Adult<br>Friend Finder". Did you pay money to Adult Friend Finder
hoping to meet "Mandy"? Now realize she's a fraud? Can't
get a refund? Complain to the Federal Trade
Commission at <a href=http://www.ftc.gov target=new>http://www.ftc.gov</a> phone
toll-free
1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357), mail Federal Trade Commission,
CRC-240, Washington, D.C. 20580. Send copies of Mandy
solicitations. The FTC is on YOUR SIDE. Go to
<a href=http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/07/xpicspublishing.htm
target=new>http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/07/xpicspublishing.htm</a> and <a
href=http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/08/crescent.htm
target=new>http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/08/crescent.htm</a>
and see. The FBI also investigates<br>fraudulent use
of the Internet. Complaints from victim tax payers
like YOU can hasten investigations of fraudulent spam
such as for Adult Friend Finder. Court orders can be
served, see
<a href=http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-4361564.html?tag=st.ne.1002.tgif.ni
target=new>http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-4361564.html?tag=st.ne.1002.tgif\
.ni</a> , to track Mandy spams to originating ISP and
port/dial-up to combat this INTER-STATE WIRE FRAUD CONSPIRACY
between "Mandy" and Adult Friend Finder. Scams and fraud
junk Email can<br>also be reported to the Fraud
Information Center toll-free at 1-800-876-7060, Fax to
1-202-835-0767. The snail-mail address is PO Box 65868,
Washington, DC 20035. Send anonymously saying where scam spam
was found. Mandy spams damage the credibility of, and
ruin, Yahoo clubs. POST THIS WHEREVER YOU SEE AFF SPAM,
at least 1-2 times a day.

Well, you sound neither critical nor annoying and
you have a valid point, allow me to clarify:<br><br>I
have never called an 800 number that I got from a spam
email in my life. Nor have I visited a spam site, once
ever. honest. So in a way, I am patently unqualified to
discuss this subject!

"You agree to not use the Service to:<br> g.
upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available
any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising,
promotional materials, "junk mail," "spam," "chain letters,"
"pyramid schemes," or any other form of solicitation,
except in those areas (such as<br>shopping rooms) that
are designated for such purpose;<br><br>Please report
any violations of the TOS to our Customer Care
group.<br><a href=http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/abuse/cgi_abuse
target=new>http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/abuse/cgi_abuse</a>"<br>THIS MEANS,
START COMPLAINING ABOUT ALL SPAM
ADVERTISEMENTS HERE

Oh good, thanks :)<br>I just came here to ask what I can do about spam
advertising in my club, from multiple names advertising another rival club, now
I know :)

Sorry to hear about your problem. It sounds
<br>really disruptive.<br>Apart from complaining to Yahoo,
it seems that you have grounds for deleting the
membership in your club of each of these spammers ( if you
are not already doing so ).<br>If all those spammers
are from that one rival <br>club and are all spamming
for that one club,<br>it strikes me that they are
putting their own club in a risky situation.

Should I fill out a seperate form for each spammer? Saying, this person spammed,
send the form, this person spammed, send another form, and so on?

I think I should add that none of the names doing
it are actually in the rival club. Should I tell
Yahoo that? I guess so.<br>I think it's the founder of
that club doing it and/or his members.<br>He/they are
using multiple names cause I have to keep banning
him/them of course.

Here is a copy of an Abuse form I just sent to
Yahoo;<br><br><br>Here is a message from the club GTA2clans that proves
that mafioseus is the one spamming my club
GTA2multiplayer to advertise his club with different Yahoo
IDs;<br><br><a
href=http://messages.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/gta2clans/bbs?action=m&tid=gta2clans&\
sid=1600235084&mid=5
target=new>http://messages.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/gta2clans/bbs?action=m&tid=gta2\
clans&sid=1
600235084&mid=5</a><br><br>"Club Promotion  mafioseus 3/1/01 3:44 pm<br><br>Got
your e-mail Feck...I'll try to do it with members he
doesn't know about.<br>Oh and I'm online and ready for a
game if anyone wants one"<br><br>He is the Founder of
that club GTA2clans.

Here is a copy of the message I sent Yahoo using
that TOS Abuse form. I sent a copy of it for each
Yahoo ID that spammed, although the first one I sent I
neglected to mention the other Yahoo Ids
used.<br>----------message----------<br>The Yahoo ID "and_then_we_were_six" has
been used to
spam the same message multiple times in my club
GTa2multiplayer. This was between 4 am and 6:45 am GMT on 02 March
2000.<br>At the same time the two following Yahoo IDs did the
same
thing;<br>"vinegar_taster2001"<br>and<br>"flood_your_ass"<br>and<br>"and_then_we\
_were_six"<br><br>It was the same message that I deleted before that
was posted by another Yahoo ID called if I remember
correctly "whats_your_problem2002"<br>----------end
message----------

Hi, my friends from AntiSpam club. <br>I join
your club. Please join my club in
return.<br>Thanks!<br>Receive lots of spam? Be smart! Set your own Free
FireWall Against Spam right away. Remail gives you a
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You can check your mail from more than one computer
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target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/aantispam</a>

Sorry, but there are already enuff anti-spam<br>Clubs.<br><br>Why dilute our
efforts?

If the Viagra spammers are not really Kwikmed
staff members or co-conspirators, wouldn't Kwikmed
delete the spammers' accounts and forfeit all payments?
What do YOU think?. When you are quoted per "DOSE"
instead of per PILL; a dose could be 25mg or a quarter of
a pill (100mg/4). Don't take chances with your
health! Go to Usenet's "alt.support.impotence" and fully
inform yourself. Knowledgeable people there have posted
such info as "You should never buy Viagra without an
IN-PERSON medical exam,<br>otherwise you will never know if
Viagra is the best solution or not and you could
ENDANGER your health!" ... "You are being ripped off. The
list price is only $10 PER PILL. Most discounters,
such as Walmart, K-Mart, and Target, sell it at around
$7. Many of us have found you can take the 100mg
tablet and split it into 2-3 or 4 parts and still get
good results. That gets your cost per dose down to
around $2" ... "And _only $6_ doesn't seem much of a
bargain when maxpharm.com can supply for as low
as<br>$4.75!" ... ""Kwikmed is one of the worst spammers on the
internet. Go to your doctor and get a prescription, then
get your Viagra for a reasonable price from a local
discount pharmacy like Walmart or Target, or from a
reputable online pharmacy like drugstore.com." These links
are included for your perusal:
<a href=http://www.alt-support-impotence.org/faq.htm#Viagra
target=new>http://www.alt-support-impotence.org/faq.htm#Viagra</a> <a
href=http://www.drugstore.com/ target=new>http://www.drugstore.com/</a>
<a href=http://www.planetrx.com/default.html
target=new>http://www.planetrx.com/default.html</a> <a
href=http://www.rpspharmacy.com/ target=new>http://www.rpspharmacy.com/</a> The
posting of
commercial advertisements in general<br>is against Club
policies. Fight Kwikmed spams by spreading THIS MESSAGE
weekly at least ten times.

Your club (<a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/aantispam
target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/aantispam</a>
) appears to violate Yahoo's TOS. A link to those
terms is found at the bottom of EVERY page displayed in
Yahoo Clubs. There is no reason to not be aware of
these terms.<br><br>Specifically, item 10: <br><br>"You
agree not to reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, resell
or exploit for any commercial purposes, any portion
of the Service, use of the Service, or access to the
Service." <br><br>And there may be others that apply.
<br><br>Your club has been reported to Yahoo Clubs abuse.
<br><br>HAND.<br><br>Mark

"I join your club"?<br><br>Mahir, is that you?

The person or people flooding messages in my club
(one of my clubs) are flooding it with lies saying
that I am deleting all messages and that only I am
allowed to post messages there. Also they are posting
lies about why I banned the other Yahoo IDs that they
have used to flood and/or spam the club with
before.<br><br>What can I do about this?

You jerk!  Don't you have anything better to do than go around and scream, "I'm
telling on you!"?  Take that frozen stick out of your butt and get a life!  Now
go go out and play, Marky.

I hate it when I am in yahoo chat or have on my
pager and get spammed with the porn. <br>I have done
everything I can to get them to stop the spamming I even
went as far to tell them to hold on because I was only
15 (i'm not) and I needed to get my mother because I
didnt know what to do and then act like a parent who
was angry because they gave there minor child
porn.<br>Is there anything that can be done about this type
of spamming in yahoo???

Could anyone comment on the following
suggestion?<br><br>As do we all, I get many many junk emails every day.
Plenty of these contain email addresses to contact the
businesses involved. <br><br>Now, replying to those emails
saying "I'm interested in your product" will obviously
bring me quite a lot of email in return.<br><br>Now, my
question is, how can I send this email so that it appears
to originate from the address of another bulk
emailer?<br><br>If we can forge the headers correctly so that when
they reply, it goes to another bulk-emailer, then they
will both be on each others' mailing lists. Send back
replies from 10 known bulk emailers each time, and the
number of emails in this marketing company's in-box
increases exponentially.<br><br>Is it possible to do this
using standard software (VB/MAPI controls etc) or does
it require that same software used by the bulk
mailers?<br><br>Apologies if this has already been answered - I've spent
the last hour or so trying to catch up with some of
your discussions, and they're all really good
quality.<br><br><br>Sincerely, <br><br>O

I know you can do stuff like that using HTML
forms, but you need to use CGI and I don't know how to
do that stuff.<br><br>There is another way using
your e-mail program that I can't remember. Maybe on of
the other members could help?<br><br>-MCNY