That the email leads back to them is news to me
at least; I was under the impression that the
addresses in the headers were all forged, and that the
phone number was the only way to contact
them.<br><br>That domain you claim you got a reply
from...<br><br>careeradvancement.com mail server is misdirected.buydomains.com
[192.168.1.1]. You're not going to deliver mail to anyone but
your own network by sending to an address at
careeradvancement.com.<br><br>I don't believe you got a reply from sending an
email to that domain. Where did you *really* send that
email?<br><br>Why .com? Why not .net, .org, .co.pl?<br><br>Of
course, I don't recommend mail-bombing people, or
replying to spammers, but careful prodding of real
dropboxes can sometimes lead to good results.<br><br>Why
don't you post the reply you got from them, with full
headers, for our amusement and
interest?<br>--<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/</a>

i got the usual spam in my inbox, and traced one
of them to resolve the address. afterwards, the
person (in san jose, initially going through a web
email-to send the spam, through myz.com) has tried to
trace my address over 200 times (in the last 40 minutes
or so) and rising.<br><br>should i just accept this
as spammer+scanner & ignore the harmless scans?

Thank you! You have been most helpful.. I've been the victim of getting so much
rubbish in my inbox..but to have it connected to my web addy is even worse!
:(<br><br>Okay..off to complain.. :)

BEST IDEA I'VE HEARD OF IN A WHILE!!!<br>When you
get ads in your phone or utility bill, include them
with the payment. Let them throw it away. When you get
those pre approved letters in the mail for everything
from credit cards to 2nd mortgages and junk like that,
most of them<br>come with postage paid return
envelopes, right? Well, why not get rid of some of your
other junk mail and put it in these cool little
envelopes!<br>Send an ad for your local dry cleaner to American
Express.Or a pizza coupon to Citibank. (I especially liked
this!)If you didn't get anything else that day, then just
send them their application back! If you your name
isn't on anything you send them. You can Send it back
em! <br>Eventually, the banks and credit card
companies will begin getting all their junk back in the
mail. Let's let them know what it's like to get junk
mail, and best of all THEY'RE paying for
it!Twice!<br><br>Send this to a friend or two or three...or fifty

In the past three weeks I have been receiving
hundreds of spam. How can I effectively stop them from
using up my 6mg limit Some days I cannot access my
email as I receive 20-30 spam per day. I do use the
bulk mail folder but that is a real problem if I dont
get to clear it constantly.<br>These are mainly from
the following two sources.
<br>fsnews-32-3264-2074776@...
<br>thisfreestuff-41-2143-1087546@...<br>These invaders just seem
to change one of the numbers
in the four digit area and the invasion continues.
<br>All help appreciated and many thanks

>These are mainly from the following two
sources. <br>fsnews-32-3264-2074776@...
<br>thisfreestuff-41-2143-1087546@...<br>These invaders just seem
to change one of the numbers
in the four digit area and the invasion continues.
<br>All help appreciated and many thanks <<br><br>can
you post the entire header?

X-Apparently-To: denartdm@... via
web12902.mail.yahoo.com; 19 Jan 2002 03:16:57 -0800
(PST)<br> <br>X-YahooFilteredBulk: 66.197.140.53<br> <br>Received: from
transport8d.azoogle.com (66.197.140.53) by
mta409.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2002 03:16:57 -0800
(PST)<br> <br>Received: from azoogle by transport8d.azoogle.com with local
(Azoogle 2.1) id 32-2517-2074776 for
denartdm@...; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 06:16:55
-0500<br> <br>Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"<br> <br>Content-Disposition: inline<br>
<br>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br> <br>MIME-Version: 1.0<br> <br>From: "NEW
Credit Card - Apply now forFREE!"
<fsnews-32-2517-2074776@...> | Block Address | Add to
Address
Book<br> <br>To: denartdm@...<br> <br>Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 06:16:55
-0500<br> <br>Subject: GUARANTEED Approval * RestoreCredit *
FREEapplication...<br> <br>Message-Id:
<32-2517-2074776@...><br> <br>X<br>-Info: please
report abuse of this service to
abuse@...<br> <br>Content-Length: 622<br> <br>&&

I get Network Operations Center (for the
network). anyone get anything different?<br><br>if that is
the one, you can send a (nice & short) note to
abuse@... + a forwared copy of the header & time, IP,
blahblah, usual stuff.

I have found NOTHING that will stop or really slow down spam except " Do not use
email at ALL!"

What kind of email provider do you
have?<br><br>If you're not paying anything for it, I would hardly
be shocked that you're being flooded with
spam.<br><br>"Step One" might be to get a new account, and not use
it "unprotected" in public. Make sure the username
is not easily dictionary attacked, and try using
some of the services you can find
on:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/filter.htm#email
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/filter.htm#email</a><br><br>if
you want to give out a public
address.<br><br>Report spammers; try to hit them at the source of their
income, at the final link in the chain, not just their
throw-away accounts. Pick a "pet spammer", and make sure you
report EVERYTHING you can link them to, and every link
from spam to their pocket, if you haven't the time to
report every spam you get.<br><br>Try writing to your
legislators. Express your opinion to your elected
representative, trying to give calm reasoned opinions.<br><br>I
can't suggest a magic pill, but careful use of these
ideas might help.

The following company supports Spam!<br><br>This
company call themselves E-mail List or M.T.I., but there
main concern is selling Bulk mail software, so they
can spam
us!<br><br><a href=http://www.direct-email-marketing.net
target=new>http://www.direct-email-marketing.net</a><br><br>They currently offer
two peices of Software, one that
is called Desktop Server 2000 allows you to send
thousands of Spam messages at once!<br><br>The other is
called Atomic Harvester 2000, which allows you to
collect thousands of peoples' e-mail all at
once!<br><br>"Atomic Harvester will even collect email addresses while
you sleep at night."<br><br>That is very scary
thought!<br><br>One thing the company don't want you to do
is...<br><br>"Do not have the name Desktop Server anywhere on your
website."

anyone know if there is a way to get verio inc
(verio.net) to "respond" to the emails pointing to spam abuse
on their network?<br><br>or are they just another
spammer-haven?<br><br>in the last week, i've received 4-5 msgs from the
same "block" of addresses.

I work for ISP so my email is with them and I have a bigfoot.com address that I
have had for years so when I move around I do not have to tell people a new
address.

Call them<br>Domain Name.......... verio.net<br>
Creation Date........ 1996-12-07<br> Registration Date....
2000-05-10<br> Expiry Date.......... 2002-12-06<br> Organisation
Name.... Verio, Inc.<br> Organisation Address. 8005 South
Chester Street<br> Organisation Address. Suite 200<br>
Organisation Address. Englewood<br> Organisation Address.
CO<br> Organisation Address. 80112<br> Organisation
Address. UNITED STATES<br><br>Admin Name...........
Hostmaster Verio<br> Admin Address........ 8005 South
Chester Street<br> Admin Address........ Suite 200<br>
Admin Address........ Englewood<br> Admin
Address........ 80112<br> Admin Address........ CO<br> Admin
Address........ UNITED STATES<br> Admin Email..........
DomainAdmin@...<br> Admin Phone.......... 214 290 8620<br> Admin
Fax............ .<br><br>Tech Name............ Hostmaster
Verio<br> Tech Address......... 8005 South Chester
Street<br> Tech Address......... Suite 200<br> Tech
Address......... Englewood<br> Tech Address......... CO<br> Tech
Address......... 80112<br> Tech Address......... UNITED STATES<br>
Tech Email........... hostmaster@...<br> Tech
Phone........... 214 290 8620<br> Tech Fax............. .<br> Name
Server.......... NS0.VERIO.NET<br> Name Server..........
NS1.VERIO.NET<br> Name Server.......... NS2.VERIO.NET

hehe, after getting some more spam today, i might just do that.

Did the info I posted help you at all?

>Did the info I posted help you at all?
<<br><br>got that stuff from looking up the network info, but
i'm still getting spam. daily, from that guy, so the
more he sends... the better my case :)

I have been getting quite alot of email from
virtumundo.com and vmadmin.com. I followed their "unsubscribe"
link to their company website and found that not only
did they have contact information but it was readily
available, and it was a toll free number. I was very
scepticle, but I called it and a human being actually
answered the phone. Not only that, but I didn't even get
two sentences into my usual spiel and the young lady
offered to take me off their lists, immediately. AND when
I asked her where they got my email address, she
told me. No arguing, no self-righteous attitude, she
actually thanked me for calling.<br><br>I'm not condoning
the company for sending me email I didn't want. But I
must say that I was very impressed with how helpful
they were in making sure I didn't get any more from
them. And I haven't.<br><br>So, if anyone else is
having problems getting off thier email lists, or you
just want to speak to a human this is their contact
info:<br><br>(toll free) 1.866.215.4044

I am shocked. I have always gone by the rule to never responed in anyway. That
would tell them they have a valid email address and send you evan more spam.

"I have been getting quite alot of email from
virtumundo.com and vmadmin.com...not only did they have contact
information but it...was a toll free number."<br><br>Toll
free for an international call? Thought
not.<br><br>Where was it that they scraped your address from,
anyway?<br><br>By using their opt-out mechanism I'm afraid you are
playing the game their way, and they are
winning.<br><br>Never use an opt-out mechanism, unless you'd opted-in
to it in the first place.<br><br>Otherwise, you
might as well not bother posting here again;
endorsements of opt-out are hardly worth
reading.<br><br>--<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/</a>

As far as I know, the "unsubscribe" links may
just be a way to make sure that your email address is
up and running. It is generally a bad idea to follow
them. <br><br>"when I asked her where they got my
<br>email address, she told me."<br><br>You forgot to
mention _where_. This info could be useful to other
members, don't you think so? <br><br>"having problems
getting off thier email lists"<br><br>If anyone is in
their email lists _without_ having asked to be there,
he must not have been added to begin
with.<br><br>And now, those who have been cautious enough to not
fall into the trap of "unsubscribe" link, should make
a... er, "toll free" phone call to get spammed again?
<br><br>Have you ever wondered why, instead of flooding your
mailbox with their junk email, and then making the
generous offer to "remove" you, they didn't just say: "We
will no longer bother you unless you answer this
message"? Or must we believe that _this_ would be less
cost-effective than to hire a charming young lady in order to
answer their unwilling customers?

I just got a spam today.I know where it is coming from but dont know who to
report it too.Can anybody help?!<br>Thanks,<br>Ian

"I just got a spam today.I know where it is
coming from but dont know who to report it too.Can
anybody help?!"<br><br>Sure.<br><br>Make sure you've
traced it right - check the guides and tools
at:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/trace.htm
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/trace.htm</a><br><br>and then
find the address to report to
at:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/report.htm
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/report.htm</a><br><br>If you
need to do some more research to find info
about the spammer,
try:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/research.htm
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/research.htm</a><br><br>and
check
out:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/people.htm#pro
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/people.htm#pro</a><br><br>to
see if this is a known
spammer.<br><br>--<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/</a>

Take the spammers URL and go to networksolutions.com click on WhoIs type in the
domain it should give you phone numbers to call.

I had effectively blocked spammers like vmadmin
and others, however I couldn't effectively block the
ones with no extension names like .com, .net, etc.
because if I click on the block feature, it only shows
Get_Ahead@career_advancement with no extension name. If I type in
Get_Ahead@career_advancement I get the error message "You have entered an
invalid email address"<br><br>I checked your club's
reference pages and looked into this whois ddatabase and it
referred me to
<a href=http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=193.193.154.27
target=new>http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=193.193.154.27</a><br><br>I
had gotten these email addresses to block from
that page. The addresses I blocked
are:<br>ripereg@...<br>ripe.net<br>a.richards@...<br>dn@...<br\
>pb@...<br>maeder@...<br><br>Are there any more address that I
can effectively use
to block these illigetimate spammers advertising
fake diplomas to obtain. Are those U N I V E R S I T Y
D I P L O M A S obtained by terrorist to continue
their terrorist activities?<br><br>These spammers
should be stopped!!<br><br>au_chocolate_cafe

emails with nothing in the subject box?? I use Oulook Express.

"If I type in Get_Ahead@career_advancement I get
the error message "You have entered an invalid email
address...<br>"I checked your club's reference pages and looked
into this whois ddatabase and it referred me to
<a href=http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=193.193.154.27
target=new>http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=193.193.154.27</a>"<br><br>\
Blocking those email addresses will not reduce your
spam.<br><br>1. Which email client are you using?<br><br>2. Where
did the IP address you quote come from? Could you
post the full headers of the email you're refering to?
Try looking at the header reading tips
at:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/trace.htm#headers
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/trace.htm#headers</a><br><br>3\
. Whois information tells you who owns a block of
IP addresses. The email addresses referred to are
usually not directly responsible for the spam you are
receiving; it is a customer of theirs', or a customer of a
customer. For example, ripe.net are the European IP Address
source, and just hand out IP addresses to European ISPs
and networks - they aren't anything to do with your
spam. If you look at the fields of the result of the
whois, you can see, for example:<br><br>admin-c:
MN37-RIPE<br><br>Find the record associated with this
handle:<br><br>person: Markus Nussbaum<br>address: The Internet Company
AG (TIC AG)<br>address: Nidfeldstrasse 5<br>address:
CH-6010 Kriens<br>address: Switzerland<br>phone: +41 41
318 3681<br>fax-no: +41 41 318 3686<br>e-mail:
m.nussbaum@...<br>nic-hdl: MN37-RIPE<br>changed: maeder@...
19951129<br>source: RIPE<br><br>This guy is the admin contact of the
network.<br><br>He probably won't want a spam report, but you can
try taking the domain name of his email address, and
putting it into the whois at www.abuse.net, to see where
to report abuse from that domain.<br><br>I would
recommend trying to read through some of the faqs
at:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/faqs.htm
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/faqs.htm</a><br><br>and using
some of the links
at:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/trace.htm
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/trace.htm</a><br><br>to find
who the spammer is.<br><br>Then
try:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/report.htm
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/report.htm</a><br><br>If you
want some tips on filtering spam with your
mail client
try:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/filter.htm
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/filter.htm</a>'client<br><br>-\
-<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/</a>

"emails with nothing in the subject box?? I use
Oulook Express."<br><br>You can't using OE's internal
"filters".<br><br>Try one of the client filters
here:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/filter.htm#client
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/filter.htm#client</a><br><br>-\
-<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/</a>

Thanks for the information. I'm really new to
this and have had a lot of problems of my hotmail.com
being spammed heavily. I'm only allowed so much storage
before the hotmail staff deletes some mail that may be
important to me. I have to check every other day and do
excessive blocking of these senders all of the
time.<br><br>I'll be checking out these links shortly, but in the
meantime, how can I make my hotmail unlisted? How can I
look up my email address to see if it is listed?
Thankyou.<br><br>************************************************<br>This is the
header
information:<br>************************************************<br>From :
<br>Get_Ahead@career_advancement
<Get_Ahead@career_advancement> <br> <br>To : <br>brave_lm@...,
brave_leo77@..., brave_ksa@..., brave_khan@...,
brave_joe@... <br> <br>Subject : <br>University Degree Program
<br> <br>Date : <br>Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:51:06 -0400
(EDT) <br> <br> MIME-Version: 1.0 <br>Received: from
[193.193.154.27] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id
MHotMailBE37A0CD001B4004321FC1C19A1B2DC0600; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 06:52:59 -0800
<br>From
Get_Ahead@career_advancement Sat, 16 Feb 2002 06:53:35 -0800 <br>Message-ID:
<GLyknkCCJzBvRGuCV3Pqry@..._vYEDsgx> <br>
<br>************************************************<br>And this is the body of
the unwanted
email:<br>************************************************<br><br>U N I V E R S
I T Y D I P L O M A S<br><br>Obtain a
prosperous future, money earning power,<br>and the
admiration of all.<br><br>Diplomas from prestigious
non-accredited<br>universities based on your present knowledge<br>and life
experience.<br><br>No required tests, classes, books, or
interviews.<br><br>Bachelors, masters, MBA, and doctorate (PhD)<br>diplomas
available in the field of your choice.<br><br>No one is
turned down.<br><br>Confidentiality assured.<br><br>CALL
NOW to receive your diploma<br>within
days!!!<br><br>1 - 3 1 3 - 7 3 1 - 0 2 2 4<br> or<br>1 - 7 7 0 - 2
3 4 - 5 2 0 4<br><br>Call 24 hours a day, 7 days a
week, including<br>Sundays and
holidays.<br><br><br>************************************************<br><br><br\
>I hope this information
helps.<br><br>au_chocolate_cafe

Glad to be of help.<br><br>How to get your
hotmail address "unlisted"...<br><br>Well, try searching
for it in google or another search engine. If it
comes up, that may be where it came from. Have you
posted to a newsgroup? Who have you given it to? Is it
easily guessable? Hotmail also has a check-box, to
publish your email - not sure where you can search for
that though. To make sure, create a new email account,
maybe one of
these:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/filter.htm#email
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/filter.htm#email</a><br><br>an\
d don't share it with anyone you don't trust. Try
using one of the expiring accounts for online signups,
that sort of idea.<br><br>As for the
header...<br><br>Received: from [193.193.154.27] by hotmail.com (3.2) with
ESMTP id MHotMailBE37A0CD001B4004321FC1C19A1B2DC0600;
Sat, 16 Feb 2002 06:52:59 -0800 <br><br>Okay,
193.193.154.27 sent the email to Hotmail.<br><br>This resolves
to mail.mfh.ch [193.193.154.27], as is hosted by
tic.ch. If we check openrbl.org, we see that it is hosted
on spamcop.net as an open relay - we could send a
note to abuse@... to let them know to close it; the
link <a href=http://www.mail-abuse.org/tsi/ar-fix.html
target=new>http://www.mail-abuse.org/tsi/ar-fix.html</a> is
useful for that.<br><br>That's about all we're going to
get with the U N I spammer, unfortunately. Slippery
customer that
one.<br><br>--<br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/spamresources/</a>