I have done exactly what you describe below, but the
memory allocation does not increase. Also Apophysis
won't let me move it into the Apps. folder.

When I reboot my Mac the application disappears from
the desktop and has to be re-installed!

I run a  Dual 2.7 Ghz Power PC G5 (not Intel) have plenty of memory and use
OS 10.4.11

Please help.

Ursula

--- In Apophysis-j@yahoogroups.com, Jean-Francois Bouzereau <jfbouzereau@...>
wrote:
>
> About the memory allocation in apo-j :
>
> 1/ there is now a better estimation of the needed memory
> in the render panel. Fill in the fields about image
> size, rendering quality, oversample, dont forget to
> validate the values with the  "enter" or "return" key.
> The required memory is computed and displayed in the
> memory info box, bottom left of the panel.
>
> 2/ to allocate memory, the program must be launched
> from the command line, via the terminal. Before
> typing the command, you must be in the folder
> (directory) where apophysis-j-25.jar resides.
> For example, if the program is on the desktop, type :
>
> cd desktop
> java -Xmx200m -jar apophysis-j-25.jar
>
> If it is in the applications folder, type :
>
> cd /applications
> java -Xmx200m -jar apophysis-j-25.jar
>
> etc

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About the memory allocation in apo-j :

1/ there is now a better estimation of the needed memory
in the render panel. Fill in the fields about image
size, rendering quality, oversample, dont forget to
validate the values with the  "enter" or "return" key.
The required memory is computed and displayed in the
memory info box, bottom left of the panel.

2/ to allocate memory, the program must be launched
from the command line, via the terminal. Before
typing the command, you must be in the folder
(directory) where apophysis-j-25.jar resides.
For example, if the program is on the desktop, type :

cd desktop
java -Xmx200m -jar apophysis-j-25.jar

If it is in the applications folder, type :

cd /applications
java -Xmx200m -jar apophysis-j-25.jar

etc


About the asc scripts :

The native scripting language in apo-j is javascript.
In order to help transition between apo and apo-j,
the apo scripts (*.asc files written in delphi pascal)
can be opened. They are tentatively translated on the
fly into javascript. This tricky process has some
limitation and sometimes fails. The main reasons are
usually :
- backslash in string. It must be escaped
   'c:\abcdef' should be written 'c:\\abcdef'

- function with no argument must have parentheses
   Transform.Clear should be written Transform.Clear()

- inconsistency in spelling of variables.
   javascript is case sensitive, and variables
   index, INDEX, and Index  (for example) are
   regarded as three different variables.

If you still have problems with a script, send it
to me directly, not through the mail list, since
attachments are not allowed.



Cheers


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"When double-clicking on a jar file, the java virtual
machine is started with a defaut memory limit (about 60MB).
This is not sufficient to render large images on apophysis-j.

If you want to control the memory usage, you have to launch
the program from the command line.
For example, to start apophysis-j with a limit of 200MB:

java -Xmx200m -jar apophysis-j-NN.jar

(where NN is the version number of the program)

\
Here is an approximation of the memory needed for a
given image size :


IMAGE | MEMORY IN MB

640 x 480 | 60
800 x 600 | 100
1024 x 768 | 150
1280 x 1024 | 250
1600 x 1200 | 350
1920 x 1600 | 500
2048 x 1800 | 600
2560 x 1920 | 750

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The only plugin set currently available for Apo-J is this one :

http://membres.lycos.fr/jfbouzereau/plugin-bin.zip

It does contain "arch" and "secant" plugins.

The plugins for standard Apo (*.dll files) are NOT compatible
with the java version.

Thanks!

But there are many .class files for variations that I do not seem to
have, like Arch and Secant. For some reason (possibly because I got
files from a couple different sites), the others were .java's, there
anyway to run them? Or do I have to look for the .class files (on the
web)?

Because I would like to use scripts- but I need my variations to work
first... right?

Hello,

The simplest way to locate the plugin folder is this :

1/ run apo-j once, so it will create the required hierarchy of files/folders
2/ quit apo-j
3/ open the terminal and type :

cd .apophysis-j/plugins/apophysis
open  .          (make sure to type open space dot)

This will open a finder window corresponding to the plugin folder.
Put all the plugins (that is, the *.class files) into it.

Cheers

JFB


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Okay, I have a MacBook and it runs on Mac OS X Leopard.

I've successfully copied/downloaded the apophysis-j program as well as
its plugins...

But I still don't understand how to make it run those plug-ins.

The instructions on the deviantART page weren't very clear to me as I
am a new Mac user.

Any suggestions would be helpful!

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--- In Apophysis-j@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Eaton" <daniel@...> wrote:
>
> I kinda echo that.  Keeping some compatibility is great, but adding new
> stuff is even better.  The existing Apo has limitations.  We should not
> desire to carry those on to a new version.
> D.

lol, exactly, since when does "Let's evolve! Ohnoes, Apo has these
limitations! So... lets evolve within those limitations!" sound at all
like a good idea? (*OUCH*)

/OR/ we could have one version that can read Legacy-Apo params,
/aswell/ as creates new params...

Kind of like Photoshop Creative Suite to Legacy-Photoshop.

Sure, Legacy-Photoshop can't really read much of CS1-3's stuff
(especially CS3) but CS1-3 can read legacy stuff like a charm.

Just leave room for the allowance of legacy params...
And have Apo-J also have it's own, much more optimized, much more
flexible, and whatnot, params.

Oh, and have an option to 'check for Legacy-Apo compatibility' and if
compatibility is yes, then ask to convert to Legacy params.

If the flame is not compatible with Legacy-Apo, then, sorry everyone,
but we want evolution, and requiring all of Apo-J to be compatible
with Legacy-Apo is just fucking retarded.

I don't mean to get violent at the end of this statement, but I'm
really sick and tired of hearing 'compatibility this' and
'compatibility that'

You all are being retarded.

As long as Apo-J can read Legacy-Apo params, then sweet, it doesn't
/have/ to make params readable by Legacy-Apo.

We need to evolve. Apo is all but dead right now, we've all seen this,
there's no word of a new version coming out any time soon.
Apo-J is in its toddler years, and, though his dad wants him to grow
up to be just like him, he wants to, and I hope he will, become better
than his dad ever was.

I say to hell with compatibility with earlier scripts and let Apo-J
evolve...

I mean, you could make it use the original syntax if you're only using
ONE of a certain variation, that was compatibility with older scripts
would be fine, and the second you add more it could move ot the new
syntax, and we could slowly weed the old one out as scripts are made
specifically for the versions that allow more than one of the same
variation...


I like your thoughts on compatibility, but really, Apo-J needs to
grow, not copy...

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I've had the same problem - it happens with parameters created in apo-J too. 
When this
happens, the program won't render any flame successfully.  The only solution
I've found is to
restart the program.  It seems to be able to actually render about 50% of the
time.

--- In Apophysis-j@yahoogroups.com, "mydeadbraincells" <eyesofacheron@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I downloaded Apophysis J 2.5 two nights ago. I tried to get it to
> render  an old fractal from some of my params.  It opened the
> parameters ok, but all it renders is a black image.  I have tried to
> get it to render multiple times...with the same result.  Since I know
> nothing about java, I was wondering if anyone else is having this
> problem and how I can fix it.
>
> Thanks,
> Kris.
>

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Hello,
I downloaded Apophysis J 2.5 two nights ago. I tried to get it to
render  an old fractal from some of my params.  It opened the
parameters ok, but all it renders is a black image.  I have tried to
get it to render multiple times...with the same result.  Since I know
nothing about java, I was wondering if anyone else is having this
problem and how I can fix it.

Thanks,
Kris.

Okay -  I just downloaded Apo-J from Jean's site - I have WinXP with
137GB free disk, 2.5 GB memory;  with JAVA2 Runtime environment, SE
v1.4.2_03. I opened Apo-j from the temp files on C drive. At first
there was an image in editor window; I went to the options menu,
tried to change varation selections for transforms, then went to do
Random Batch - machine locked, i.e. could do NOTHING, not even close
program - had to do reboot - to make sure I hadn't done something
weird, I tried this 4 times - all four times program locked, had to
reboot. Now I did everthing just like I would in the Apo2.07beta
which I have no trouble using -[never had any problems except when I
first started using Apo in 2005 and that was due to a bad download
copy - removed bad copy, downloaded again and everything worked -
just had to build my flame skills.]  While I had Apo-J up, I could
access internet and other programs - it was only Apo-J that was
locked.

Now since I couldn't get anything to work by clicking on it - stupid
question time - do you have to have the first version of Apo-J in
order for subsequent releases to work - like you must have Apo 2.0
for any later versions of Apophysis to work - [ie. those versions
still active]

  I searched around for some sort of "user info" but couldn't find
any. BTW, my dwnld of Apo-J came with the .jar extention. So what am
I doing wrong?  Right after I downloaded, I opened the editor window
and played with transforms already there, but didn't like the
variations assigned or the image and since there was only one parm
set on list side of window,  I went about setting varations selection
to my taste and tried to create a Random batch of 5 - and that's when
the program locked and has locked every time I try to do Random
Batch, and also no image will form in editor window or preview
window, just a black blank screen  Also, nothing else works either, I
try to delete/change/add variation to transform and nothing happens.
I always start with a new page and I get a red transform and an FX-
tried to delete the FX and it won't go away. Does this version of
Apo-J allow a new page with one transform - like in Apo 2.07beta?

  I really want to try this version of Apo and since it says it works
in all platforms - why am I having so many problems?  Also when I'm
in the file menu, all the commands are META commands - I do know
those are Unix based and I remember reading a post from Keeps
regarding this type of command - so since Random Batch has a hotkey
showing {META B} I'm assuming my Win Xp doesn't recognize that...is
that possible????  now what...btw, I deleted the first download from
my temp file and went out to Yahoo and re-downloaded Apo-J from
there - same problem when I attempted to do a random batch or
anything else I tried to do.

Thank you in advance for any help you can provide...wish I was as
techno as you guys, but I'm just an artist and have to feel my way
along with techno stuff - but I DO learn well - lolol.

Thankyou, that fixed that up :D

C:\Program Files\Apophysis 2.0\Apophysis-080417-21.jpg

And now the / also drops the box with the navigation options too!

Keeps

--- In Apophysis-j@yahoogroups.com, Jean-Francois Bouzereau
<jfbouzereau@...> wrote:
>
> > That is why I ask.  For me, it doesn't function.
> >
> > I am not sure if its my, my registry, or if its the release though.
> > Only when I render.
>
> You could try this :
>
> * quit apo-J
>
> * with Wordpad ,or any text editor, edit the setting file, which is:
>
> c:\Documents and Settings\YourName\.apophysis\settings
>
> * find the line starting with "Render.Path"
>
> * it must points to a valid directory
>
> * Either fix it or delete it (in which case it will revert to your
home
> directory)
>
> * save the setting file
>
> * relaunch apo-j
>

> That is why I ask.  For me, it doesn't function.
>
> I am not sure if its my, my registry, or if its the release though.
> Only when I render.

You could try this :

* quit apo-J

* with Wordpad ,or any text editor, edit the setting file, which is:

c:\Documents and Settings\YourName\.apophysis\settings

* find the line starting with "Render.Path"

* it must points to a valid directory

* Either fix it or delete it (in which case it will revert to your home
directory)

* save the setting file

* relaunch apo-j

That is why I ask.  For me, it doesn't function.

I am not sure if its my, my registry, or if its the release though.
Only when I render.  The others all open at the default install
directory for my FireFox of all the odd places to open in O_o


--- In Apophysis-j@yahoogroups.com, Jean-Francois Bouzereau
<jfbouzereau@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Ooo another question.  Went  to render and it is stuck on my  I:\
drive,
> > and no navigational keys to put me elsewhere.  Not sure why it is on
my
> > usb drive and not my apo folder too.  Other than typing in the addy
on
> > my comp where I want to save flames and renders etc is there another
> > means?
>
> Normally on windows the popup menu at the top of the save dialog
> allows to go up to "/" , where you can see all your drives.
>