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Re: Questions for the artilect group

How do you know that "artilects" are not getting noticed?

* A number of projects have shown proof of concept, yet hard AI still seems
to be gasping for real funding.

* Artilect online communities are under populated (are there any others?)
and rather inactive.

* As Ben Houston (thanks for the book refs) points out, the scientific
community are wary of crying wolf. At the same time, the public has been
over-primed and immunised by Sci-Fi hype, to extent that ideas that are
closely associated with Sci-Fi are, as a matter of course, put aside as 'pie
in the sky' or 'more than a few generations away'.

* De Garis makes a plea to applied philosophers to examine the subject of
species dominance and gets only rebuffed (however politely:
http://foobar.starlab.net/~degaris/news/singer.html).

* Respected (?by TV editors) futurologists routinely describe futures which
seem to take no account of artilect presence.

In so many areas of scientific advance we see technology arriving before
suitable debate on the issues of ethics that they raise. Artilects, it
seems to me, are the biggest case in point and the main obstacle to debate
seems to be that the public simply don't think it'll impact within their
lifetimes.

The less the public are informed of the issues, the bigger the shock will be
when it hits them in the face, and the bigger the shock the bigger the
potential Terran backlash. General awareness has got to be raised. Not
cosmist proselytizing, but presenting a believable case to Joe Public
showing that artilects will impact human ethics within one generation.

regards
Tony

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I have just joined this group from following the link from DeGaris' new web site. I read all of the archived messages and see that the group is not that ...
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Feb 10, 2000
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I also recently joined via the same route, and though I have not got too into the technical yet, I do have a few thoughts to share, and some more questions. ...
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Feb 12, 2000
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... The answer depends on whether you are a Terran or a Cosmist. Cheers, --J. R. Molloy http://www.shasta.com/jr...
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The answer depends on whether you are a Terran or a Cosmist. ?Very cryptic. Are we not all Cosmists here? Tony ...
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Feb 14, 2000
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Tony, How do you know that "artilects" are not getting noticed -- what, just because you don't find much in the press about it? -Wolfspider ... From: "Tony...
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Feb 14, 2000
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How do you know that "artilects" are not getting noticed? * A number of projects have shown proof of concept, yet hard AI still seems to be gasping for real...
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Feb 15, 2000
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I see nothing to prevent an artilect taking the side of the Terrans. After all, some humans have taken the side of other primates in danger of extinction. A ...
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Feb 16, 2000
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... If a Terran opposes all fundamental changes to the human condition, and a Cosmist wants to create AIs at (almost) any cost, then I'm neither. Why on earth...
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Feb 16, 2000
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I am very new to all this, but it is difficult to see any major differences between Cosmism and Transhumanism. The main distinction seems to come after we...
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Feb 17, 2000
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... Hi den Otter, You posted the following last December: "You can join the list at: http://www.onelist.com/community/transvision or drop me a note with...
J. R. Molloy
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Feb 17, 2000
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Indeed, let us become as gods. Then shall humans and their paltry machinations wither away, displaced by hyper-cognitive transhumans. --J. R. How do we decide...
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Feb 18, 2000
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... Yes, that's correct. With transhumanism, we merge with our machines, symbiotically. IOW, we become bionic cyborgs. With de Garis' Cosmism, we build ...
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Feb 18, 2000
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... If only an artilect could deal with that, then obviously "we" would not need to make a decision about transhuman opportunity. The decision as to whether...
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