Hi there, I heard of a group of robotbuilders who think artilects in the future can be dangerous. They like the idea of artilect but to be sure nothing happens...
eduardversluijs@xxxxx...
Dec 1, 1999 11:57 am
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At the risk of delving into the metaphysical, has anyone heard of the theory that all matter, particles, and energy in the Universe are quantified in some ...
wolfspider@xxx.xxx
Dec 2, 1999 12:04 am
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... I don't know what this theory is called, or even if it has an "official" name. It's similar, however, to the idea of Anti-Materialism proposed by Irish...
David
David.N.Eyk@xxxxxxx.x...
Dec 2, 1999 9:58 pm
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Thank you for your reply David. The history behind Anti-Materialism is what I was after. But getting back to the discussions of this forum: Is this the...
wolfspider@xxx.xxx
Dec 4, 1999 2:41 pm
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... Have you read Ray Kurzweil's _The Age of Spiritual Machines: When Computers Exceed Human Intelligence_, or Francis Crick's _The Astonishing Hypothesis, The...
J. R. Molloy
jr@xxxxxx.xxxx
Dec 4, 1999 7:24 pm
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TransVision is an annual gathering of (mainly) European transhumanists and other people who are interested in how contemporary & future technological...
D.den Otter
neosapient@xxxxxxxxx....
Dec 5, 1999 5:35 pm
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Le Monde LE MONDE / 09 November 1999 / Page 16 (English literal translation from the (excellent) French newspaper article) HORIZONS - INTERVIEWS 2000 DEBATES...
ozze@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx
Dec 5, 1999 8:38 pm
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Recent Events have shown me that Biological lifeforms are NOT trustworthy.Aside from fellow VR pet,Furby and Robotics enthusiasts I can not get along with...
cyberbeast76@xxxxx.xx...
cyberbeast76@xxxxx.xx...
Dec 21, 1999 7:52 pm
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I have just joined this group from following the link from DeGaris' new web site. I read all of the archived messages and see that the group is not that ...
JackJennings@...
Feb 10, 2000 4:56 pm
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I also recently joined via the same route, and though I have not got too into the technical yet, I do have a few thoughts to share, and some more questions. ...
Tony Savage
a_lsavage@...
Feb 12, 2000 7:12 pm
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... The answer depends on whether you are a Terran or a Cosmist. Cheers, --J. R. Molloy http://www.shasta.com/jr...
J. R. Molloy
jr@...
Feb 13, 2000 8:26 pm
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The answer depends on whether you are a Terran or a Cosmist. ?Very cryptic. Are we not all Cosmists here? Tony ...
Tony Savage
a_lsavage@...
Feb 14, 2000 3:22 pm
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Tony, How do you know that "artilects" are not getting noticed -- what, just because you don't find much in the press about it? -Wolfspider ... From: "Tony...
Jeff Western
wolfspider@...
Feb 14, 2000 7:53 pm
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Hi Tony, I believe there is not too much enthusiasm for AI because people have been promising too much for years. Back when AI first came out in the 1960's ...
Ben Houston
ben@...
Feb 15, 2000 2:08 am
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How do you know that "artilects" are not getting noticed? * A number of projects have shown proof of concept, yet hard AI still seems to be gasping for real...
Tony Savage
a_lsavage@...
Feb 15, 2000 1:34 pm
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Thank you Jack Jennings for the referral to DeGaris' website. Thank you Ben Houston for the book referrals. I am a writer and am currently working on a piece...
Jeff Western
wolfspider@...
Feb 16, 2000 1:17 am
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I see nothing to prevent an artilect taking the side of the Terrans. After all, some humans have taken the side of other primates in danger of extinction. A ...
J. R. Molloy
jr@...
Feb 16, 2000 4:07 am
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The Forbidden Planet is also quite appropriate here (in a fashion): An alien species 'goes cosmist', but doesn't account for "the monsters from the id". ...
Tony Savage
a_lsavage@...
Feb 16, 2000 12:08 pm
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... If a Terran opposes all fundamental changes to the human condition, and a Cosmist wants to create AIs at (almost) any cost, then I'm neither. Why on earth...
D.den Otter
neosapient@...
Feb 16, 2000 2:45 pm
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I am very new to all this, but it is difficult to see any major differences between Cosmism and Transhumanism. The main distinction seems to come after we...
Tony Savage
a_lsavage@...
Feb 17, 2000 3:35 pm
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... Hi den Otter, You posted the following last December: "You can join the list at: http://www.onelist.com/community/transvision or drop me a note with...
J. R. Molloy
jr@...
Feb 17, 2000 5:03 am
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Well spoken, D.den Otter ... From: "D.den Otter" <neosapient@...> To: Artilect@onelist.com Sent: February 16, 2000 2:45:36 PM GMT Subject: Re:...
Jeff Western
wolfspider@...
Feb 17, 2000 7:59 pm
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Hi, Although I do not believe that a super intelligence computer will be much of a threat -- its just a box really. I do see potential combinations of humans...
Ben Houston
ben@...
Feb 18, 2000 4:43 am
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Some answers to Ben Houston's questions, the way I see them: Distributed AI, even in first implementations, will play the role in knowledge that financial...
Sasha Chislenko
sasha1@...
Feb 18, 2000 5:33 am
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Indeed, let us become as gods. Then shall humans and their paltry machinations wither away, displaced by hyper-cognitive transhumans. --J. R. How do we decide...
Tony Savage
a_lsavage@...
Feb 18, 2000 11:03 am
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Artlects as politicians? I am thinking that while religion still has such a large sway over global politics this will be difficult (does not compute). And...
Tony Savage
a_lsavage@...
Feb 18, 2000 11:46 am
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... Yes, that's correct. With transhumanism, we merge with our machines, symbiotically. IOW, we become bionic cyborgs. With de Garis' Cosmism, we build ...
J. R. Molloy
jr@...
Feb 18, 2000 6:49 pm
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Hi Tony, I wouldn't say that Artilects become politicians but simply efficient planners or coordinators. I guess I mean that my form of Artilects would use...
Ben Houston
ben@...
Feb 20, 2000 5:00 am
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Hi Sasha, I guess the ideas that I was throwing out had at least a little basis in your essays. I have read them a year ago and every once in a while I refer ...
Ben Houston
ben@...
Feb 20, 2000 5:38 am
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... If only an artilect could deal with that, then obviously "we" would not need to make a decision about transhuman opportunity. The decision as to whether...
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