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Re: [AstronomyWeather] any news about CMC forecasts or CSC rendition?

On Thu, 6 May 2004, steve_koehler wrote:

> Allan and Attilla,
>
> I'm curious if either of you have things in the works that will show
> up in the CMC forecasts or the Clear Sky Clocks. I think your work
> has been a fantastic service to the astronomical community. Thank
> you very much.
>
> -- Steve Koehler
>

Hi Steeve,

On my side the answer is yes and no. Yes, because there will be major
changes and no because it won't be transparent on the Clear Sky Clocks.

I am going to use a brand new weather model to creates all the
astro-weather images with nearly twice the resolution. The new in house
regional model will have an horizontal resolution of 15km instead of the
actual 24km. On the vertical, the number of calculation levels will
increase from 28 to 58.
I will also use new cloud physic schemes which improves the forecast for
low clouds and convection (thunderstorms). I did many comparison and you
should see better cloud forecast this coming summer than last year. I did
also some comparaison over the prairies where the new schemes handle
better low clouds. Of course, it is not perfect and the problem we have
over Ohio with low clouds advected from the Great Lakes is not resolved
yet and the model will still over-forecast the cloud cover during the
winter under northwesterlies.
You won't see the difference on the CSC but on the maps where there will
be a lot more resolution for cloud and seeing conditions and somewhat on
the transparency forecast which is more or less filterred. Transparency
and specially the seeing code were modified to use the new information of
the 15km model. The implementation of the new astro-weather maps will take
place May 12th or May 18th... no more sure yet... still have some work to
do and we are behind schedule.

I am also planning to change the transparency forecast in adding new code
to introduce the smog but with a brand new approach. I did it last year as
a parallele run but didn't verified well. I am going to give another try
in June (when I will have more free time). I will also take this
opportunity to add another level of transparency. In the longer
term, I wish to re-write the seeing forecast.

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Allan Rahill * * *( )
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Centre meteorologique Canadien * (____ CMC )
Canadian Meteorological Center, Dorval, Canada (_______)
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http://www.cmc.ec.gc.ca/cmc/htmls/mainpage.html '''
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Allan and Attilla, I'm curious if either of you have things in the works that will show up in the CMC forecasts or the Clear Sky Clocks. I think your work has...
steve_koehler
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May 6, 2004
2:01 am

... Hi Steeve, On my side the answer is yes and no. Yes, because there will be major changes and no because it won't be transparent on the Clear Sky Clocks. I...
Allan Rahill
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May 6, 2004
11:50 am

... So the CMC maps will be twice as big? Keeeeeeewwllll :-) I guess that means that CSC will likely be more accurate....
Patrice Scattolin
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May 6, 2004
12:27 pm

... The size of the maps will remain the same but you will see much more details in the clouds seeing forecasts! * * _~~~~~~~ Allan Rahill...
Allan Rahill
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May 6, 2004
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Allan, ... Thanks very much for the update. I look forward to seeing the changes. -- Steve Koehler koehler@......
Stephen C. Koehler
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May 6, 2004
2:15 pm

... Hi Steve, Allan has already replied that he will soon release higher resolution forecasts models. (Sound of hands rubbing in glee!) Mark Casazza, tells me...
Attilla Danko
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May 7, 2004
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... If you implement the feature where we can interactively change the colors of the CSC squares and thereby control the weather, extra hugs for you at the...
Patrice Scattolin
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May 7, 2004
2:40 am

Attilla, Thanks for your update. I look forward to the new features. That would be very exciting if someone can get a European model going so you can also ...
Stephen C. Koehler
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May 7, 2004
3:01 pm

... Indeed, it will be a problem for a few Clear Sky Clocks. I have already did some animations to see how those little holes moves within low clouds. I have...
Allan Rahill
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May 7, 2004
10:02 pm

Allan, ... 15km ... close to ... When you have some time, I would be interested to hear more about how you verify your models. Do you continuously measure the...
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May 8, 2004
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... spatial ... squares to be ... It's sometimes a problem now. A clock can display a long string of clear blocks when there is a bank of cloud very closeby ...
Attilla Danko
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May 8, 2004
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On Fri, 7 May 2004, Stephen C. Koehler wrote: Just want to let you know the implementation of the higher resolution cloud-transparency-seeing forecast based on...
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