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Opposition of 433 Eros and the solar parallax   Message List  
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Only yesterday I realised that the next opposition of asteroid 433 Eros in late
January 2012 will be a close one. For the first time since 1975 the asteroid
will get as bright as magnitude +8, making it visible in small telescopes.

Such a close encounter did remind me of the 1901 and 1931 apparitions, which
were then used to measure the parallax of Eros, and ultimately that of the sun.
The value of the solar parallax obtained during the 1931 opposition (8".790) was
held to be definitive until 1968, when radar measurements took over!

So, there's this exciting opportunity next year to measure the sun's distance
twice using two classic and historically important methods: the transit of Venus
on June 5-6 and the opposition of Eros on January 31. This also lets us compare
the accuracy of both methods.

By taking simultaneous pictures of the asteroid from different places on earth
during the last days of January, its parallactic displacement can be measured.
If you would like to join this project and perform this unique experiment
together with others, please drop me a message. I know it's on short notice, but
it's not too late to get things organised!

Steven van Roode
www.transitofvenus.nl
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Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:57 pm

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Only yesterday I realised that the next opposition of asteroid 433 Eros in late January 2012 will be a close one. For the first time since 1975 the asteroid...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Dec 18, 2011
4:57 pm

yes; this is a very good opportunity. If all the amateurs join hands it will yield good results  please circulate more details. Shylaja Jawaharlal Nehru...
taralaya BASE
taralaya89 Offline Send Email
Dec 19, 2011
5:04 am

We should go ahead and try to get as many set of data points from different locations. SPACE is ready to do it. Regards C B Devgun President Science...
C B
chanderdevgun Offline Send Email
Dec 19, 2011
4:05 pm

... I've also forwarded this most interesting project idea to Astronomers Without Borders - we will need the longest baselines possible, i.e. several countries...
dfischer@...
skyweek Offline Send Email
Dec 19, 2011
4:26 pm

Thank you Daniel and Chander for your responses. It's good to hear that your are willing to cooperate! Right now, I have scheduled a general post on...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Dec 19, 2011
6:46 pm

Hi Steven, Thats really fast! I am working on getting the indian fraternity ready for the event and SPACE can take up the coordination in India on a large...
C B
chanderdevgun Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
4:37 am

Yes, a webpage is crucial to get the word out, give clear instructions and later report the results. It's easy for me to add a page to www.transitofvenus.nl,...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
9:03 am

Thats great news Steven. I guess first thing we should do as a team is to spread the word around and also disseminate the information in a very simple way as...
C B
chanderdevgun Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
9:29 am

As a start for putting together a website, I made an infographic about Eros' opposition. See http://www.transitofvenus.nl/images/eros2012-infographic.png It's...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
12:20 pm

Will one need time signals on the radio for possible observers from different areas in India? If so, we should apply to NPL - I have been thinking of...
nandivada_rathnasree
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Dec 20, 2011
5:50 am

I would be joining in this Steve. Count me in. chandrainsky...
chandrainsky Offline Send Email Dec 20, 2011
2:50 pm

I also have a draft finder chart: http://www.transitofvenus.nl/images/eros2012-chart.png The numbers next to stars are referring to HIP. The chart is taken...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
3:18 pm

This is very useful. We will plan the observations accordingly thanks Shylaja   Jawaharlal Nehru Planetarium Bangalore Association for Science Education Sri...
taralaya BASE
taralaya89 Offline Send Email
Dec 21, 2011
4:47 am

Hello all,I have created a form for putting in the details for all who have shown interest from India to observe and photograph the opposition.please click the...
C B
chanderdevgun Offline Send Email
Dec 21, 2011
7:03 am

I looked into the circumstances of Eros' apparition and selected three times at which simultaneous photographs of Eros may be attempted. This selection was...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Dec 29, 2011
2:54 pm

Dear Steven, We are ready to go ahead, i will mail to you re some details soon. Regards C B Devgun President Science Popularisation Association of...
C B
chanderdevgun Offline Send Email
Dec 30, 2011
1:50 pm

Hello Steven, I am in Bangalore (+13*N and 77.5E) and have a SBIG ST-8XME CCD camera recently bought. Even though I am still in its learning process (thanks to...
Amar A. Sharma
amar_universe Offline Send Email
Jan 1, 2012
5:51 am

... Here it is: http://transitofvenus.nl/wp/2012/01/01/eros-and-the-solar-parallax Daniel (from Germany, also promoting the idea there)...
dfischer@...
skyweek Offline Send Email
Jan 1, 2012
11:53 am

Thanks, Daniel! Stay tuned for a page with detailed instructions (including how to do the astrometry yourself very easily). I'm working hard to get this page...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Jan 1, 2012
4:06 pm

Detailed instructions to photograph Eros and process your pictures are now online! See...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Jan 1, 2012
9:30 pm

Hi Steven (and potential participants in India & elsewhere), ... The key question (to me) is: How big will the parallax effect be, i.e. how large a telescope...
dfischer@...
skyweek Offline Send Email
Jan 1, 2012
10:40 pm

Hi, Interested to contribute in this interesting project. My probable location will be: +26° 41' 59.42", +88° 25' 44.61" Debasis Sky Watchers Association...
Debasis Sarkar
debasisswan Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
8:17 pm

Hi Daniel, Two of your questions are answered in the article at http://transitofvenus.nl/wp/getting-involved/eros-and-the-solar-parallax/: the maximum amount...
Steven van Roode
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Jan 2, 2012
2:38 pm

Hello Steven, How far in time can the sets of photograph be? Do the photographs have to shot at the same time - to the second, minute, hour or they could be on...
Ajay Talwar
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Jan 2, 2012
2:48 pm

The pictures should preferably be taken to the second. The movement of Eros is about 2.8" per minute, making Eros traverse a distance across the sky equivalent...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Jan 3, 2012
9:18 am

Hi Steven, ... How badly trailed can the Eros & star images be for the software to still get something useful out of an image? And can it handle deliberately ...
dfischer@...
skyweek Offline Send Email
Jan 2, 2012
2:57 pm

Which images can still be analysed by astrometry.net I don't know. I should ask Michael. But there's of course a way to find out: try yo upload some sky images...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Jan 3, 2012
9:10 am

Hello Steven, Only 2 nights remain for the asteroid event on 31st. Any updates? Looking forward to make the best use of this. I personally hope I can stand by...
Amar A. Sharma
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Jan 29, 2012
6:13 pm
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