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Opposition of 433 Eros and the solar parallax   Message List  
Reply Message #7058 of 7533 |
Re: Opposition of 433 Eros and the solar parallax

I looked into the circumstances of Eros' apparition and selected three times at
which simultaneous photographs of Eros may be attempted. This selection was done
by looking at images of earth as seen from Eros:

http://www.transitofvenus.nl/images/Jan31_07UT-small.png
http://www.transitofvenus.nl/images/Jan31_18UT-small.png
http://www.transitofvenus.nl/images/Jan31_23UT-small.png

(In the images, the night side of earth has been left light for clarity, whereas
the day side has been made darker)
Every time, at least two widely separated populated areas had to be in view as
to create suitable baselines for the parallax measurements. The selected times
are:

Jan 30 - Feb 1, 07:00 UT: North and South America
Jan 30 - Feb 1, 18:00 UT: India (Asia actually) and Australia
Jan 30 - Feb 1, 23:00 UT: Europe, India, Africa

Comments on the selected dates is very welcome!

January 1 there will be a call for participation on
http://www.transitofvenus.nl, and (hopefully) also a main page with background
information and instructions for photographing Eros and submitting your
observations.

Steven

--- In Astronomy_Activities_2009@yahoogroups.com, "C B" <chander.devgun@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello all,I have created a form for putting in the details for all who
> have shown interest from India to observe and photograph the
> opposition.please click the following link and submit your details:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEJUeVAtYnJHMU1TNnp\
> JOGlkczBqR2c6MQ
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEJUeVAtYnJHMU1TNn\
> pJOGlkczBqR2c6MQ>
> Regards
> C B Devgun
> PresidentScience Popularisation Association of Communicators and
> EducatorsNational Coordinator, India, World Space Week
> chander.devgun@... <mailto:chander.devgun@...>
> +919810226297, +919250901015
>
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> --- In Astronomy_Activities_2009@yahoogroups.com, taralaya BASE
> <taralaya89@> wrote:
> >
> > This is very useful. We will plan the observations accordingly
> > thanks
> > Shylaja
> >
> > Â
> > Jawaharlal Nehru Planetarium
> > Bangalore Association for Science Education
> > Sri T. Chowdaiah Road, High Grounds
> > Bangalore 560 001
> > www.taralaya.org
> > tel/fax 91-080-2226 6084
> > 91-080-2220 3234
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Steven stevenvanroode@
> > To: Astronomy_Activities_2009@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:48 PM
> > Subject: [Astronomy_Activities_2009] Re: Opposition of 433 Eros and
> the solar parallax
> >
> >
> > Â
> > I also have a draft finder chart:
> http://www.transitofvenus.nl/images/eros2012-chart.png
> >
> > The numbers next to stars are referring to HIP. The chart is taken
> from José Torres' TriAtlas
> (http://www.uv.es/jrtorres/triatlas.html), the positions of Eros between
> January 30 11 UT and February 1 11 UT are computed with JPL Horizon
> website (http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons.cgi). The dotted circle
> indicates a field of view of 1.25 degrees.
> >
> > It's only a quick draft. Perhaps the entire path of Eros along the
> chart should be drawn, and the dates indicated by ticks instead of dots.
> If you have any other suggestions, let me know, and I will incorporate
> them in the map.
> >
> > Steven van Roode
> > www.transitofvenus.nl
> > info@
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:54 pm

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Only yesterday I realised that the next opposition of asteroid 433 Eros in late January 2012 will be a close one. For the first time since 1975 the asteroid...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Dec 18, 2011
4:57 pm

yes; this is a very good opportunity. If all the amateurs join hands it will yield good results  please circulate more details. Shylaja Jawaharlal Nehru...
taralaya BASE
taralaya89 Offline Send Email
Dec 19, 2011
5:04 am

We should go ahead and try to get as many set of data points from different locations. SPACE is ready to do it. Regards C B Devgun President Science...
C B
chanderdevgun Offline Send Email
Dec 19, 2011
4:05 pm

... I've also forwarded this most interesting project idea to Astronomers Without Borders - we will need the longest baselines possible, i.e. several countries...
dfischer@...
skyweek Offline Send Email
Dec 19, 2011
4:26 pm

Thank you Daniel and Chander for your responses. It's good to hear that your are willing to cooperate! Right now, I have scheduled a general post on...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Dec 19, 2011
6:46 pm

Hi Steven, Thats really fast! I am working on getting the indian fraternity ready for the event and SPACE can take up the coordination in India on a large...
C B
chanderdevgun Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
4:37 am

Yes, a webpage is crucial to get the word out, give clear instructions and later report the results. It's easy for me to add a page to www.transitofvenus.nl,...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
9:03 am

Thats great news Steven. I guess first thing we should do as a team is to spread the word around and also disseminate the information in a very simple way as...
C B
chanderdevgun Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
9:29 am

As a start for putting together a website, I made an infographic about Eros' opposition. See http://www.transitofvenus.nl/images/eros2012-infographic.png It's...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
12:20 pm

Will one need time signals on the radio for possible observers from different areas in India? If so, we should apply to NPL - I have been thinking of...
nandivada_rathnasree
nandivada_ra... Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
5:50 am

I would be joining in this Steve. Count me in. chandrainsky...
chandrainsky Offline Send Email Dec 20, 2011
2:50 pm

I also have a draft finder chart: http://www.transitofvenus.nl/images/eros2012-chart.png The numbers next to stars are referring to HIP. The chart is taken...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
3:18 pm

This is very useful. We will plan the observations accordingly thanks Shylaja   Jawaharlal Nehru Planetarium Bangalore Association for Science Education Sri...
taralaya BASE
taralaya89 Offline Send Email
Dec 21, 2011
4:47 am

Hello all,I have created a form for putting in the details for all who have shown interest from India to observe and photograph the opposition.please click the...
C B
chanderdevgun Offline Send Email
Dec 21, 2011
7:03 am

I looked into the circumstances of Eros' apparition and selected three times at which simultaneous photographs of Eros may be attempted. This selection was...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Dec 29, 2011
2:54 pm

Dear Steven, We are ready to go ahead, i will mail to you re some details soon. Regards C B Devgun President Science Popularisation Association of...
C B
chanderdevgun Offline Send Email
Dec 30, 2011
1:50 pm

Hello Steven, I am in Bangalore (+13*N and 77.5E) and have a SBIG ST-8XME CCD camera recently bought. Even though I am still in its learning process (thanks to...
Amar A. Sharma
amar_universe Offline Send Email
Jan 1, 2012
5:51 am

... Here it is: http://transitofvenus.nl/wp/2012/01/01/eros-and-the-solar-parallax Daniel (from Germany, also promoting the idea there)...
dfischer@...
skyweek Offline Send Email
Jan 1, 2012
11:53 am

Thanks, Daniel! Stay tuned for a page with detailed instructions (including how to do the astrometry yourself very easily). I'm working hard to get this page...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Jan 1, 2012
4:06 pm

Detailed instructions to photograph Eros and process your pictures are now online! See...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Jan 1, 2012
9:30 pm

Hi Steven (and potential participants in India & elsewhere), ... The key question (to me) is: How big will the parallax effect be, i.e. how large a telescope...
dfischer@...
skyweek Offline Send Email
Jan 1, 2012
10:40 pm

Hi, Interested to contribute in this interesting project. My probable location will be: +26° 41' 59.42", +88° 25' 44.61" Debasis Sky Watchers Association...
Debasis Sarkar
debasisswan Offline Send Email
Dec 20, 2011
8:17 pm

Hi Daniel, Two of your questions are answered in the article at http://transitofvenus.nl/wp/getting-involved/eros-and-the-solar-parallax/: the maximum amount...
Steven van Roode
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Jan 2, 2012
2:38 pm

Hello Steven, How far in time can the sets of photograph be? Do the photographs have to shot at the same time - to the second, minute, hour or they could be on...
Ajay Talwar
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Jan 2, 2012
2:48 pm

The pictures should preferably be taken to the second. The movement of Eros is about 2.8" per minute, making Eros traverse a distance across the sky equivalent...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Jan 3, 2012
9:18 am

Hi Steven, ... How badly trailed can the Eros & star images be for the software to still get something useful out of an image? And can it handle deliberately ...
dfischer@...
skyweek Offline Send Email
Jan 2, 2012
2:57 pm

Which images can still be analysed by astrometry.net I don't know. I should ask Michael. But there's of course a way to find out: try yo upload some sky images...
Steven
stevenvanroode Offline Send Email
Jan 3, 2012
9:10 am

Hello Steven, Only 2 nights remain for the asteroid event on 31st. Any updates? Looking forward to make the best use of this. I personally hope I can stand by...
Amar A. Sharma
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Jan 29, 2012
6:13 pm
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