Does anyone know if you can relabel expansion module buttons?

The "Relabel Feature Buttons" in the options menu does not seem to
work.

Phone type is 4620.

Thanks

i have a main site using s8700 and the remote site using s8300/lsp with
two g700.when the lsp kick in on the remote site .the second g700
remain registered to the s8700 not the lsp .Any idea? is there any
setting i need to check.

Regards

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Looks like we had a feature turned off their for moderation for a few
days, looks like they came in and ran sacked the place, If I was a
bi-sexual looking for a survey to post and make money at home, Those
messages would have been perfect.

Turned it back on and sorry for the annoyance.

-Rick

Conference all on the digital set and then transfer the call to the Polycom.
That way you will get 6 party's on an analog phone.

   Yvon

amerencips04 <rkdavis@...> wrote:
           Has anyone been successful in creating a 6 Party telephone conference
call on a Polycom Analog speakerphone with it's extension being bridged
as an appearance on an Avaya 8410D telephone set?

If so, since an Analog port only allows for a 3 Party conference, how
were the extensions programmed?

Thanks in advance.






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Has anyone been successful in creating a 6 Party telephone conference
call on a Polycom Analog speakerphone with it's extension being bridged
as an appearance on an Avaya 8410D telephone set?

If so, since an Analog port only allows for a 3 Party conference, how
were the extensions programmed?

Thanks in advance.

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Try a Google search for "Avaya parts". There is a market for V11
hardware, both buying and selling, just don't expect a lot of money.

At 07:31 AM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

>Does anyone know of any vendor who purchases and/or the value of
>Definity cabinets and all the non-migratable cards and parts left over
>post a migration from a Definity G3 Version: V11 to S8720 CM 3.1.2.
>Our vendor says they will do us a favor and take it off our hands at
>no charge. Anyone out there that needs more carriers but does not need
>to migrate to G650's?
>
>


Marty Young
San Diego, CA
<mailto:msyoung@...>

Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the
ark, professionals built the Titanic.

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If you have a spreadsheet with the cards that you are looking to sell get it to
me.  I will go to a few vendors and tell and get figures for you.Mike
Iannucci--- On Thu 09/07, mikemak062371 < makovskym@... >
wrote:From: mikemak062371 [mailto: makovskym@...]To:
Avaya_Forum@...: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:31:50 -0000Subject:
[Avaya_Forum] Value of Definity cabinets



Does anyone know of any vendor who purchases and/or the value of Definity
cabinets and all the non-migratable cards and parts left over post a migration
from a Definity G3 Version: V11 to S8720 CM 3.1.2. Our vendor says they will do
us a favor and take it off our hands at no charge. Anyone out there that needs
more carriers but does not need to migrate to G650's?




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Does anyone know of any vendor who purchases and/or the value of
Definity cabinets and all the non-migratable cards and parts left over
post a migration from a Definity G3 Version: V11 to S8720 CM 3.1.2.
Our vendor says they will do us a favor and take it off our hands at
no charge. Anyone out there that needs more carriers but does not need
to migrate to G650's?

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The tutorial is available at:
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distance network (which may depend on PUC approval).

Shown in the animation is an example of an Enterprise SIP Proxy
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processed without connection to the PSTN.  Since SIP is an
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Layer 2 protocol such as ATM, Frame, Ethernet, wireless or pure IP
networks.  With SIP, the intelligence for call setup and features
resides on the SIP device or UA-User Agent, such as an IP phone or a
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carriers/providers will offer SIP trunking as a mean for both
gateways to PSTN and connection to other SIP networks.

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   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ka§hi
   To: Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 5:52 AM
   Subject: [Avaya_Forum] Trunk Call Disconnection Problem


   Hi,

   I am facing a serious problem at the customer end, that the calls
   coming from the announcement vdn are taking time to disconnect. eg. if
   someone calls from outside, dial desired extension and then
   disconnects, the problem is that this keeps on ringing on the
   attendant's set. Can some help me regarding this issue.

   Regards,
   AK





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If you are not sure how to find this information write back to me and I will
walk you through it.--- On Mon 08/28, =?iso-8859-1?B?S2GnaGk=?= <
kzone007@... > wrote:
From: =?iso-8859-1?B?S2GnaGk=?= [mailto: kzone007@...]To:
Avaya_Forum@...: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:00:06 -0000Subject:
[Avaya_Forum] Trunk Call Disconnection Problem



Hi, I am facing a serious problem at the customer end, that the calls coming
from the announcement vdn are taking time to disconnect. eg. if someone calls
from outside, dial desired extension and then disconnects, the problem is that
this keeps on ringing on the attendant's set. Can some help me regarding this
issue.Regards,AK




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Look at the vector that this vdn is associated with.  Check for wait time on
calls and also the timer set for calls in que. --- On Mon 08/28,
=?iso-8859-1?B?S2GnaGk=?= < kzone007@... > wrote:
From: =?iso-8859-1?B?S2GnaGk=?= [mailto: kzone007@...]To:
Avaya_Forum@...: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:00:06 -0000Subject:
[Avaya_Forum] Trunk Call Disconnection Problem



Hi, I am facing a serious problem at the customer end, that the calls coming
from the announcement vdn are taking time to disconnect. eg. if someone calls
from outside, dial desired extension and then disconnects, the problem is that
this keeps on ringing on the attendant's set. Can some help me regarding this
issue.Regards,AK




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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi,

I am facing a serious problem at the customer end, that the calls
coming from the announcement vdn are taking time to disconnect. eg. if
someone calls from outside, dial desired extension and then
disconnects, the problem is that this keeps on ringing on the
attendant's set. Can some help me regarding this issue.

Regards,
AK

Hi,

I am facing a serious problem at the customer end, that the calls
coming from the announcement vdn are taking time to disconnect. eg. if
someone calls from outside, dial desired extension and then
disconnects, the problem is that this keeps on ringing on the
attendant's set. Can some help me regarding this issue.

Regards,
AK

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From: Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Marty Young
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 1:34 AM
To: Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avaya_Forum] Call barging Facility - Apart from Remote
Access - Needed



Read your original email which is below. You started it. I only
responded. You insulted everybody on the forum and attacked them. So,
if you are going to behave like a sh*t head, to use your own words
"ya beter be prepared for the sh*t they gonna bring ya".

Not everybody on this list is an exalted royal being such as yourself
who talks with the gods on a first name basis. Some of us actually
work for a living.

I am 60 years old and I have been around long enough that I don't
take cr*p from any a$$hole. Especially someone pretending that he is
better than me. Apparently you can only do software, with that
limitation you would not survive in a real job.

Enjoy your life.

At 01:09 PM 8/12/2006, you wrote:

>Hey Martin
>
>Are you joking , I dont beleive this.
>
>Listen If you dont know a sh**t about my where abouts and the company I
>working with , how could you comment ?
>
>Adding a Port networks ? these kind of work are done by the level 1 in
my
>organisation.
>
>Rahul
>
>On 8/9/06, Chris Williams
><<mailto:cwilliams%40capturet.com>cwilliams@...
<mailto:cwilliams%40capturet.com> > wrote:
> >
> > You really cant get off the list huh? Me neither...
> >
> > _____
> >
> >
> > From:
> <mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
>
[mailto:<mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>Avaya_Forum@...
m <mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> <Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > ]
> > On Behalf Of B Larimer
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 1:45 PM
> >
> > To:
> <mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Avaya_Forum] Call barging Facility - Apart from Remote
> > Access - Needed
> >
> > First Off - I have tried getting off this stupid list a couple of
times
> > over the years. You must be new here, otherwise you would know this;
I
> > guess the machines just love me too much to let go. These days I
think
> > it is a running joke. My response really was purely satirical.
However,
> > if your gonna ask questions on IT websites of folks who know thier
sh*t,
> > ya beter be prepared for the sh*t they gonna bring ya. Most
importantly,
> > I never ever told you, or anyone else for that matter, my
nationality,
> > nor did I say anything of yours. Maybe they did not teach proper
English
> > composition or comprehension, but you sir somehow have infered
something
> > that I certainly did not imply at any point. That being said I'm
gonna
> > say somethings you probably will not like. The thing I implied was
that
> > I am always looking for opportunities, and that I personally was not
> > going to give you free advice on this matter. I choose to lead by
this
> > example, if others want to give away free
> > advice, that's cool too, but it cheapens themselves and the
industry,
> > not me, nor does it influence my decision on what I tell who, and
how
> > much money I ask for.
> >
> > Second - I have worked for firms owned/operated by US, European,
Indian,
> > and citizens of many other nations. Funny thing - the owners -
> > regardless of nationality - seem to spend most of their time, and
money,
> > in the United States and Europe. Interesting how in the United
States,
> > they build US $100,000+ custom built motorbikes, in Italy and
Germany
> > they build EU 175,000 production automobiles, yet in India they take
> > phones call for 50 Rupee's an hour. Just wait slick - you thing the
> > starving masses of India are hungry for work, well I guarantee you
> > there's some folks in Africa who will work for less, and it doesn't
take
> > a rocket scientist to set a call center, I of all people have proven
> > this over and over again. Because you ticked me off today I'm going
to
> > make a few calls to friends from University and will get that ball
> > rolling mate, bobs yer uncle. Warn your people, Wal-m*rt is coming
soon
> > to a planned city near you; mark my words.
> >
> > Third - As for IT competency - in general - it is rampant
everywhere.
> > This my friends, is really the key reason why I really don't want a
damn
> > thing to do with the industry. The only systems I work on these days
are
> > my own, and well, they work fine, except for every other Tuesday my
PC
> > freaks out, and we all know that is Uncle Bill and those stupid
updates.
> > Ironic co-incidence or subtle example??? You tell me...
> >
> > Forth - Dude, you need to seriously lighten up! I'm pretty f-ing
> > competent, in fact your masters paid me pretty damn handsomly for
the
> > grey matter in my skull they used in building your industry; I'm
> > guessing you were in Pampers at that point? For a rosy cheaked kid
your
> > pretty gung-ho, better chill out, I hear heart attacks really mess
you
> > up...
> >
> > Fifth - I actually paid off my student loans years ago, but I got a
> > phone call that morning, it was a wrong number, not the first call
> > either, and no matter what I do, I cannot seem to convince 'Robert'
-
> > whose ESL and accent training are pretty lacking - that I am not
James I
> > Hendrix - pretty funny - Jimi Hendrix is the name of a 1960's
American
> > psychadelic rock musician, so I'm guessing this was a rather amusing
> > alias used on a bullsh*t credit application, but since the industry
> > started whoring out the work to any Tom, Dick, or Habib who will
take it
> > for cheapest it's understandable how this kind of this happens. I do
> > feel for the shareholders and actuall debtors though. For reference
I
> > carry zero debt and so these rather annoying calls really tick me
off.
> >
> > Sixth - and this one ties most of this together: IT jobs in general
were
> > not outsourced because of competency; these jobs were outsourced
because
> > of drastically lower human resource expense and overall 21 year
> > projected NROI data. Search the ads! Every Yahoo and Google response
is
> > Cheapest Call Center or some similar brick-a-brak. You wanna be the
> > slimy used car salespeople of the world? The bloke dancing in the
gutter
> > for quarters for a pint of cheap scotch? Go ahead - I care less -
but
> > please stop your stupid assumptions!
> >
> > B
> >
> > PS: Shouldn't you people be working???
> >
> > Rahul <<mailto:rahul.nasty%40gmail.com>rahul.nasty@...
<mailto:rahul.nasty%40gmail.com>
> <rahul.nasty%40gmail.com> <mailto: rahul.nasty%40gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > Hey B,
> >
> > I seem u are a little bit frustated by the outsourcing, Guys like
you
> > who
> > are not even a bit competant for th industry get paid in countries
like
> > urs,
> > I'll defineitly adice u to visit India once and then you will see
the
> > real
> > champs, propably becos of idiots like you the jbs are outsourced to
> > india.
> >
> > and we are turned to an IT giant,
> >
> > I really feel pity on you and your country.
> >
> > so sad...................... go cry and ask help from ur government
> >
> > Rahul
> >
> > On 8/2/06, Rahul
> <<mailto:rahul.nasty%40gmail.com>rahul.nasty@...
<mailto:rahul.nasty%40gmail.com>
> <rahul.nasty%40gmail.com> <mailto:rahul
> > .nasty%40gmail.com>
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey B,
> > >
> > > Why dont you ask the moderator to make it manodatory while joining
the
> > > list , Guys are here asking for help
> > > if you are not interested skip the mail but dont ever make those
> > foolish
> > > comments.
> > >
> > > Sundar: You can do it by landing your incoming calls on barrier
code,
> > once
> > > calls land on barrier code the users can use the Feature access
for
> > remote
> > > barging .
> > >
> > > For accessing Barrier codes:
> > >
> > > Cha remote-access.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/2/06, B Larimer <
> <mailto:ruderalis_99%40yahoo.com>ruderalis_99@...
<mailto:ruderalis_99%40yahoo.com>
> <ruderalis_99%40yahoo.com>
> > <mailto:ruderalis_99%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe Following This Guide Will Help:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Go to school for years and years - learn PBX and general IT
> > practice.
> > > > 2) Work for years and years - PBX and general IT practice.
> > > > 3) Develop extensive records and software tools as well as
> > experience.
> > > > 4) Lose job due to offshore outsourcing.
> > > > 5) While seeking employment on internet laugh at suppossed PBX
> > > > 'Engineers' and 'Programmers' and 'Administrators' asking about
> > level 1
> > > > programming issues.
> > > >
> > > > I would be happy to program this for for the low low rate of
$255/hr
> > +
> > > > travel and expenses. I would love to provide you with a free
answer
> > however,
> > > > 'Robert' just called me via VOIP from India to remind me that my
> > student
> > > > loan is due, and since all the tech jobs got sent offshore I am
out
> > of work,
> > > > and have no money.
> > > >
> > > > Should you and your company not be able to afford my services
I'm
> > > > certain a couple weeks or research and development on your part
> > should yield
> > > > the results you seek. Understand it's nothing personal, it's
just
> > that when
> > > > they outsourced us they made it clear that PBX programmers in
other
> > > > countries could do the job just as well as us but for 1/5th the
> > cost... How
> > > > is that working out by the way?
> > > >
> > > > Kindest Regards,
> > > >
> > > > B
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sundara karthik <
> <mailto:sundaratmars%40yahoo.com>sundaratmars@...
<mailto:sundaratmars%40yahoo.com>
> <sundaratmars%40yahoo.com>
> > <mailto:sundaratmars%40yahoo.com> <sundaratmars% 40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > If any one have an idea to barging the call from reomte dialing
> > > > through vdn& vec format.
> > > >
> > > > Remote-access is restricted in my company security policy.
> > > >
> > > > or is any other way to monitor a agent call from remotely.
> > > >
> > > > Epabx Model: Avaya S8710
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Sundar.R
> > > >
> > > >
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I apologize to this forum. This reply was not meant to be public.

At 01:33 AM 8/25/2006, you wrote:

>Read your original email which is below. You started it. I only
>responded. You insulted everybody on the forum and attacked them. So,
>if you are going to behave like a sh*t head, to use your own words
>"ya beter be prepared for the sh*t they gonna bring ya".
>
>At 01:09 PM 8/12/2006, you wrote:
>
> >Hey Martin
> >
> >Are you joking , I dont beleive this.
> >
> >Listen If you dont know a sh**t about my where abouts and the company I
> >working with , how could you comment ?
> >
> >Adding a Port networks ? these kind of work are done by the level 1 in my
> >organisation.
> >
> >Rahul
> >
> >On 8/9/06, Chris Williams
> ><<mailto:cwilliams%40capturet.com><mailto:cwilliams%40capturet.com>
> cwilliams@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > You really cant get off the list huh? Me neither...
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >
> > > From:
> >
>
<mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>Avay\
a_Forum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > <Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
>
[mailto:<mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.\
com>Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com<Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > ]
> > > On Behalf Of B Larimer
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 1:45 PM
> > >
> > > To:
> >
>
<mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>Avay\
a_Forum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > <Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Avaya_Forum] Call barging Facility - Apart from Remote
> > > Access - Needed
> > >
> > > First Off - I have tried getting off this stupid list a couple of times
> > > over the years. You must be new here, otherwise you would know this; I
> > > guess the machines just love me too much to let go. These days I think
> > > it is a running joke. My response really was purely satirical. However,
> > > if your gonna ask questions on IT websites of folks who know thier sh*t,
> > > ya beter be prepared for the sh*t they gonna bring ya. Most importantly,
> > > I never ever told you, or anyone else for that matter, my nationality,
> > > nor did I say anything of yours. Maybe they did not teach proper English
> > > composition or comprehension, but you sir somehow have infered something
> > > that I certainly did not imply at any point. That being said I'm gonna
> > > say somethings you probably will not like. The thing I implied was that
> > > I am always looking for opportunities, and that I personally was not
> > > going to give you free advice on this matter. I choose to lead by this
> > > example, if others want to give away free
> > > advice, that's cool too, but it cheapens themselves and the industry,
> > > not me, nor does it influence my decision on what I tell who, and how
> > > much money I ask for.
> > >
> > > Second - I have worked for firms owned/operated by US, European, Indian,
> > > and citizens of many other nations. Funny thing - the owners -
> > > regardless of nationality - seem to spend most of their time, and money,
> > > in the United States and Europe. Interesting how in the United States,
> > > they build US $100,000+ custom built motorbikes, in Italy and Germany
> > > they build EU 175,000 production automobiles, yet in India they take
> > > phones call for 50 Rupee's an hour. Just wait slick - you thing the
> > > starving masses of India are hungry for work, well I guarantee you
> > > there's some folks in Africa who will work for less, and it doesn't take
> > > a rocket scientist to set a call center, I of all people have proven
> > > this over and over again. Because you ticked me off today I'm going to
> > > make a few calls to friends from University and will get that ball
> > > rolling mate, bobs yer uncle. Warn your people, Wal-m*rt is coming soon
> > > to a planned city near you; mark my words.
> > >
> > > Third - As for IT competency - in general - it is rampant everywhere.
> > > This my friends, is really the key reason why I really don't want a damn
> > > thing to do with the industry. The only systems I work on these days are
> > > my own, and well, they work fine, except for every other Tuesday my PC
> > > freaks out, and we all know that is Uncle Bill and those stupid updates.
> > > Ironic co-incidence or subtle example??? You tell me...
> > >
> > > Forth - Dude, you need to seriously lighten up! I'm pretty f-ing
> > > competent, in fact your masters paid me pretty damn handsomly for the
> > > grey matter in my skull they used in building your industry; I'm
> > > guessing you were in Pampers at that point? For a rosy cheaked kid your
> > > pretty gung-ho, better chill out, I hear heart attacks really mess you
> > > up...
> > >
> > > Fifth - I actually paid off my student loans years ago, but I got a
> > > phone call that morning, it was a wrong number, not the first call
> > > either, and no matter what I do, I cannot seem to convince 'Robert' -
> > > whose ESL and accent training are pretty lacking - that I am not James I
> > > Hendrix - pretty funny - Jimi Hendrix is the name of a 1960's American
> > > psychadelic rock musician, so I'm guessing this was a rather amusing
> > > alias used on a bullsh*t credit application, but since the industry
> > > started whoring out the work to any Tom, Dick, or Habib who will take it
> > > for cheapest it's understandable how this kind of this happens. I do
> > > feel for the shareholders and actuall debtors though. For reference I
> > > carry zero debt and so these rather annoying calls really tick me off.
> > >
> > > Sixth - and this one ties most of this together: IT jobs in general were
> > > not outsourced because of competency; these jobs were outsourced because
> > > of drastically lower human resource expense and overall 21 year
> > > projected NROI data. Search the ads! Every Yahoo and Google response is
> > > Cheapest Call Center or some similar brick-a-brak. You wanna be the
> > > slimy used car salespeople of the world? The bloke dancing in the gutter
> > > for quarters for a pint of cheap scotch? Go ahead - I care less - but
> > > please stop your stupid assumptions!
> > >
> > > B
> > >
> > > PS: Shouldn't you people be working???
> > >
> > > Rahul
>
<<mailto:rahul.nasty%40gmail.com><mailto:rahul.nasty%40gmail.com>rahul.nasty@gma\
il.com
>
> > <rahul.nasty%40gmail.com> <mailto: rahul.nasty%40gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > Hey B,
> > >
> > > I seem u are a little bit frustated by the outsourcing, Guys like you
> > > who
> > > are not even a bit competant for th industry get paid in countries like
> > > urs,
> > > I'll defineitly adice u to visit India once and then you will see the
> > > real
> > > champs, propably becos of idiots like you the jbs are outsourced to
> > > india.
> > >
> > > and we are turned to an IT giant,
> > >
> > > I really feel pity on you and your country.
> > >
> > > so sad...................... go cry and ask help from ur government
> > >
> > > Rahul
> > >
> > > On 8/2/06, Rahul
> >
>
<<mailto:rahul.nasty%40gmail.com><mailto:rahul.nasty%40gmail.com>rahul.nasty@gma\
il.com
>
> > <rahul.nasty%40gmail.com> <mailto:rahul
> > > .nasty%40gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey B,
> > > >
> > > > Why dont you ask the moderator to make it manodatory while joining the
> > > > list , Guys are here asking for help
> > > > if you are not interested skip the mail but dont ever make those
> > > foolish
> > > > comments.
> > > >
> > > > Sundar: You can do it by landing your incoming calls on barrier code,
> > > once
> > > > calls land on barrier code the users can use the Feature access for
> > > remote
> > > > barging .
> > > >
> > > > For accessing Barrier codes:
> > > >
> > > > Cha remote-access.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/2/06, B Larimer <
> >
>
<mailto:ruderalis_99%40yahoo.com><mailto:ruderalis_99%40yahoo.com>ruderalis_99@y\
ahoo.com
>
> > <ruderalis_99%40yahoo.com>
> > > <mailto:ruderalis_99%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe Following This Guide Will Help:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Go to school for years and years - learn PBX and general IT
> > > practice.
> > > > > 2) Work for years and years - PBX and general IT practice.
> > > > > 3) Develop extensive records and software tools as well as
> > > experience.
> > > > > 4) Lose job due to offshore outsourcing.
> > > > > 5) While seeking employment on internet laugh at suppossed PBX
> > > > > 'Engineers' and 'Programmers' and 'Administrators' asking about
> > > level 1
> > > > > programming issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would be happy to program this for for the low low rate of $255/hr
> > > +
> > > > > travel and expenses. I would love to provide you with a free answer
> > > however,
> > > > > 'Robert' just called me via VOIP from India to remind me that my
> > > student
> > > > > loan is due, and since all the tech jobs got sent offshore I am out
> > > of work,
> > > > > and have no money.
> > > > >
> > > > > Should you and your company not be able to afford my services I'm
> > > > > certain a couple weeks or research and development on your part
> > > should yield
> > > > > the results you seek. Understand it's nothing personal, it's just
> > > that when
> > > > > they outsourced us they made it clear that PBX programmers in other
> > > > > countries could do the job just as well as us but for 1/5th the
> > > cost... How
> > > > > is that working out by the way?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kindest Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > B
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sundara karthik <
> >
>
<mailto:sundaratmars%40yahoo.com><mailto:sundaratmars%40yahoo.com>sundaratmars@y\
ahoo.com
>
> > <sundaratmars%40yahoo.com>
> > > <mailto:sundaratmars%40yahoo.com> <sundaratmars% 40yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > If any one have an idea to barging the call from reomte dialing
> > > > > through vdn& vec format.
> > > > >
> > > > > Remote-access is restricted in my company security policy.
> > > > >
> > > > > or is any other way to monitor a agent call from remotely.
> > > > >
> > > > > Epabx Model: Avaya S8710
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Sundar.R
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free.
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call
> > > rates.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>Marty Young
>San Diego, CA
><mailto:msyoung@...>
>
>Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the
>ark, professionals built the Titanic.
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


Marty Young
San Diego, CA
<mailto:msyoung@...>

Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the
ark, professionals built the Titanic.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Read your original email which is below. You started it. I only
responded. You insulted everybody on the forum and attacked them. So,
if you are going to behave like a sh*t head, to use your own words
"ya beter be prepared for the sh*t they gonna bring ya".

Not everybody on this list is an exalted royal being such as yourself
who talks with the gods on a first name basis. Some of us actually
work for a living.

I am 60 years old and I have been around long enough that I don't
take cr*p from any a$$hole. Especially someone pretending that he is
better than me. Apparently you can only do software, with that
limitation you would not survive in a real job.

Enjoy your life.

At 01:09 PM 8/12/2006, you wrote:

>Hey Martin
>
>Are you joking , I dont beleive this.
>
>Listen If you dont know a sh**t about my where abouts and the company I
>working with , how could you comment ?
>
>Adding a Port networks ? these kind of work are done by the level 1 in my
>organisation.
>
>Rahul
>
>On 8/9/06, Chris Williams
><<mailto:cwilliams%40capturet.com>cwilliams@...> wrote:
> >
> > You really cant get off the list huh? Me neither...
> >
> > _____
> >
> >
> > From:
> <mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> <Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
>
[mailto:<mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com<Avaya_\
Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > ]
> > On Behalf Of B Larimer
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 1:45 PM
> >
> > To:
> <mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> <Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Avaya_Forum] Call barging Facility - Apart from Remote
> > Access - Needed
> >
> > First Off - I have tried getting off this stupid list a couple of times
> > over the years. You must be new here, otherwise you would know this; I
> > guess the machines just love me too much to let go. These days I think
> > it is a running joke. My response really was purely satirical. However,
> > if your gonna ask questions on IT websites of folks who know thier sh*t,
> > ya beter be prepared for the sh*t they gonna bring ya. Most importantly,
> > I never ever told you, or anyone else for that matter, my nationality,
> > nor did I say anything of yours. Maybe they did not teach proper English
> > composition or comprehension, but you sir somehow have infered something
> > that I certainly did not imply at any point. That being said I'm gonna
> > say somethings you probably will not like. The thing I implied was that
> > I am always looking for opportunities, and that I personally was not
> > going to give you free advice on this matter. I choose to lead by this
> > example, if others want to give away free
> > advice, that's cool too, but it cheapens themselves and the industry,
> > not me, nor does it influence my decision on what I tell who, and how
> > much money I ask for.
> >
> > Second - I have worked for firms owned/operated by US, European, Indian,
> > and citizens of many other nations. Funny thing - the owners -
> > regardless of nationality - seem to spend most of their time, and money,
> > in the United States and Europe. Interesting how in the United States,
> > they build US $100,000+ custom built motorbikes, in Italy and Germany
> > they build EU 175,000 production automobiles, yet in India they take
> > phones call for 50 Rupee's an hour. Just wait slick - you thing the
> > starving masses of India are hungry for work, well I guarantee you
> > there's some folks in Africa who will work for less, and it doesn't take
> > a rocket scientist to set a call center, I of all people have proven
> > this over and over again. Because you ticked me off today I'm going to
> > make a few calls to friends from University and will get that ball
> > rolling mate, bobs yer uncle. Warn your people, Wal-m*rt is coming soon
> > to a planned city near you; mark my words.
> >
> > Third - As for IT competency - in general - it is rampant everywhere.
> > This my friends, is really the key reason why I really don't want a damn
> > thing to do with the industry. The only systems I work on these days are
> > my own, and well, they work fine, except for every other Tuesday my PC
> > freaks out, and we all know that is Uncle Bill and those stupid updates.
> > Ironic co-incidence or subtle example??? You tell me...
> >
> > Forth - Dude, you need to seriously lighten up! I'm pretty f-ing
> > competent, in fact your masters paid me pretty damn handsomly for the
> > grey matter in my skull they used in building your industry; I'm
> > guessing you were in Pampers at that point? For a rosy cheaked kid your
> > pretty gung-ho, better chill out, I hear heart attacks really mess you
> > up...
> >
> > Fifth - I actually paid off my student loans years ago, but I got a
> > phone call that morning, it was a wrong number, not the first call
> > either, and no matter what I do, I cannot seem to convince 'Robert' -
> > whose ESL and accent training are pretty lacking - that I am not James I
> > Hendrix - pretty funny - Jimi Hendrix is the name of a 1960's American
> > psychadelic rock musician, so I'm guessing this was a rather amusing
> > alias used on a bullsh*t credit application, but since the industry
> > started whoring out the work to any Tom, Dick, or Habib who will take it
> > for cheapest it's understandable how this kind of this happens. I do
> > feel for the shareholders and actuall debtors though. For reference I
> > carry zero debt and so these rather annoying calls really tick me off.
> >
> > Sixth - and this one ties most of this together: IT jobs in general were
> > not outsourced because of competency; these jobs were outsourced because
> > of drastically lower human resource expense and overall 21 year
> > projected NROI data. Search the ads! Every Yahoo and Google response is
> > Cheapest Call Center or some similar brick-a-brak. You wanna be the
> > slimy used car salespeople of the world? The bloke dancing in the gutter
> > for quarters for a pint of cheap scotch? Go ahead - I care less - but
> > please stop your stupid assumptions!
> >
> > B
> >
> > PS: Shouldn't you people be working???
> >
> > Rahul <<mailto:rahul.nasty%40gmail.com>rahul.nasty@...
> <rahul.nasty%40gmail.com> <mailto: rahul.nasty%40gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > Hey B,
> >
> > I seem u are a little bit frustated by the outsourcing, Guys like you
> > who
> > are not even a bit competant for th industry get paid in countries like
> > urs,
> > I'll defineitly adice u to visit India once and then you will see the
> > real
> > champs, propably becos of idiots like you the jbs are outsourced to
> > india.
> >
> > and we are turned to an IT giant,
> >
> > I really feel pity on you and your country.
> >
> > so sad...................... go cry and ask help from ur government
> >
> > Rahul
> >
> > On 8/2/06, Rahul
> <<mailto:rahul.nasty%40gmail.com>rahul.nasty@...
> <rahul.nasty%40gmail.com> <mailto:rahul
> > .nasty%40gmail.com>
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey B,
> > >
> > > Why dont you ask the moderator to make it manodatory while joining the
> > > list , Guys are here asking for help
> > > if you are not interested skip the mail but dont ever make those
> > foolish
> > > comments.
> > >
> > > Sundar: You can do it by landing your incoming calls on barrier code,
> > once
> > > calls land on barrier code the users can use the Feature access for
> > remote
> > > barging .
> > >
> > > For accessing Barrier codes:
> > >
> > > Cha remote-access.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/2/06, B Larimer <
> <mailto:ruderalis_99%40yahoo.com>ruderalis_99@...
> <ruderalis_99%40yahoo.com>
> > <mailto:ruderalis_99%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe Following This Guide Will Help:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Go to school for years and years - learn PBX and general IT
> > practice.
> > > > 2) Work for years and years - PBX and general IT practice.
> > > > 3) Develop extensive records and software tools as well as
> > experience.
> > > > 4) Lose job due to offshore outsourcing.
> > > > 5) While seeking employment on internet laugh at suppossed PBX
> > > > 'Engineers' and 'Programmers' and 'Administrators' asking about
> > level 1
> > > > programming issues.
> > > >
> > > > I would be happy to program this for for the low low rate of $255/hr
> > +
> > > > travel and expenses. I would love to provide you with a free answer
> > however,
> > > > 'Robert' just called me via VOIP from India to remind me that my
> > student
> > > > loan is due, and since all the tech jobs got sent offshore I am out
> > of work,
> > > > and have no money.
> > > >
> > > > Should you and your company not be able to afford my services I'm
> > > > certain a couple weeks or research and development on your part
> > should yield
> > > > the results you seek. Understand it's nothing personal, it's just
> > that when
> > > > they outsourced us they made it clear that PBX programmers in other
> > > > countries could do the job just as well as us but for 1/5th the
> > cost... How
> > > > is that working out by the way?
> > > >
> > > > Kindest Regards,
> > > >
> > > > B
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sundara karthik <
> <mailto:sundaratmars%40yahoo.com>sundaratmars@...
> <sundaratmars%40yahoo.com>
> > <mailto:sundaratmars%40yahoo.com> <sundaratmars% 40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > If any one have an idea to barging the call from reomte dialing
> > > > through vdn& vec format.
> > > >
> > > > Remote-access is restricted in my company security policy.
> > > >
> > > > or is any other way to monitor a agent call from remotely.
> > > >
> > > > Epabx Model: Avaya S8710
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Sundar.R
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free.
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call
> > rates.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


Marty Young
San Diego, CA
<mailto:msyoung@...>

Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the
ark, professionals built the Titanic.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Verizon Business today introduced new Internet protocol-based
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From: Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:31 PM
To: Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avaya_Forum] Re: Vector backup/documentation tool



Did you mean this product?
http://www.pbxinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6145
<http://www.pbxinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6145>

--- In Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Avaya_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> , "mikemak062371" <mikemak@...>
wrote:
>
> I recall coming across a 3rd party app. that is designed to
> backup/document vectors, VDN's, hunt groups and other call center
> details, that are not easily backed up to a database. Anyone heard of
> this?
>





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Did you mean this product?
http://www.pbxinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6145

--- In Avaya_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "mikemak062371" <mikemak@...> wrote:
>
> I recall coming across a 3rd party app. that is designed to
> backup/document vectors, VDN's, hunt groups and other call center
> details, that are not easily backed up to a database.  Anyone heard of
> this?
>

Hi Mike,

I know it is a beta solution but first time I used ASA to get info from all
vectors, vdns and stations. I got the correct VDN, vector and station
numbers what I inserted some scripts what I used from ATE. First time I just
found this solution but it was very good to have all information in some TXT
files.

Few years later I found a little tool on the web what directly connected to
PBX and pull down every information and made the relations between it. It
was very handy. (I try to found it and i'll give you the link)

The expensive solution if you want to backup your config to your laptop is
the AVAYA Provision SW.

Peter

On 8/23/06, mikemak062371 <mikemak@...> wrote:
>
> I recall coming across a 3rd party app. that is designed to
> backup/document vectors, VDN's, hunt groups and other call center
> details, that are not easily backed up to a database.  Anyone heard of
> this?
>
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I recall coming across a 3rd party app. that is designed to
backup/document vectors, VDN's, hunt groups and other call center
details, that are not easily backed up to a database.  Anyone heard of
this?

denial event 1184

   Cause Value 22
   [0x16/0x96] -
   Number changed
   The called party number was changed to a new number.
   Cause Value 01 appears if the ISDN network does not support Cause Value 22.
   A BRI or Adjunct Switch Application Interface (ASAI) application might
generate Cause Value
   22. Communication Manager does not originate Cause Value 22 for PRI.
   This Cause Value has end-to-end significance and should always be passed back
through the
   network to the user.
   Check the diagnostic information (DIAG) for the new number. See Cause Values
and their
   meanings/interpretations on page 136.


lokesh S <loksrajan@...> wrote:
Hi,

Am having a E1 connected to my pbx through which we are making international
calls. In some calls to USA , pbx is rejecting it by giving a 'denial event
1184' . Can anyone help me out in resolving this by giving a brief explanation
about the denial event 1184 and a solution to rectify this.

warm regards,
Lokesh.S
Accenture,India.

Loks


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Converged access, integrated access, dynamic T-1 and a dozen other
names are used to provide voice and data services over a single T-1
(1.544 MPBS-Mega Bits Per Second) transmission circuit. Many
offerings allow for both voice and data but are fixed in the
assignment of up to seven/eleven voice calls and half of the T-1 or
768 Kilo Bits Per Second available for customer data transmission to
the internet or other data networks. New technology allows for
dynamic or flexible (hence the term flex-T-1). Dynamic bandwidth
allocation means that when the bandwidth is not being used by a
telephone for an external incoming or outgoing call (internal calls
do not use the T-1); the bandwidth is available for data
transmission. This means when no one is using telephones for
external calls, the total bandwidth is available for data
transmission. Here's the TECH-byte on "how it works"
http://www.techtionary.com/voip/techbytes/ias-alone.swf.
This file is available for purchase for use on your web site or
standalone PC for customer demonstrations.

ABOUT
TECHtionary.com produces VoIP dealer sales and customer training
programs, online presentations including iPod and PC formats sales
brochures, virtual installation manuals and animated online
presentations. The company has more than 2,826+ free online
presentations on data communications,, internet, wireless, VoIP-
Voice over Internet Protocol, PBX Systems, central office switching,
protocols, telephony, telecommunications, networking, routing, IPTV,
WiMax, power systems, broadband, WiFi-wireless fidelity and other
related technologies available at http://www.techtionary.com.
Thomas Cross is a magazine columnist with many key technology
publications and a member of the Technical Board of Advisors for the
VoIP-Security Alliance. He can be reached at 303-594-1694, or
cross@...

The animated tutorial is available at http://www.techtionary.com.
This presentation focuses on SIP trunking and SIP in a call center
environment.  Shown in the animated tutorial is an example of SIP
trunking in a call center environment.  This example shows a call
dialing a local or toll-free number.  The call is terminated by the
local PSTN-Public Switched Telephone LEC-Local Exchange Carrier to
the SIP gateway.  The call is sent to the call center via SIP.
Agents in the call center can be optimized to process more calls.
In addition, if overload or local assistance is required, the call
can be re-routed and terminated by locally.  If on-SIPnet, call is
terminated by SIP.  If off-net, call is terminated via PSTN.  A SIP
trunk is defined as a "logical" voice channel established between
servers and/or gateways.

A cursory financial analysis suggests that the costs of the network
alone for using a SIP approach might be approximately 80% less for
connecting local calls instead of 800 circuits to a distant call
center.  In addition, the long distance charges of using a SIP
network are also considerably less.  However, depending on the
impact on the data network which may cause a significant impact in
all of the "moving parts" such as requiring upgrades in network
capacity, call center "busy" capacity, even upgrades to local phone
systems and other factors may mitigate overall TCO-Total Cost of
Ownership.

One of the key benefits of SIP trunking is to provide enterprise
(multi-location) customers the ability to create distinction IP (con)
federations (a BGP-Border Gateway Protocol concept) of unique
service areas.  This approach allows IT management control of
ingress and egress calls with security between internal-external and
internal-internal calling.  In practical terms, voice calls are
carried to the closest point of call termination before leaving the
SIP network or anywhere in between.  This gives IT management the
great number of options based on their management priorities such as
cost, security, QoS and performance.

For example an Enterprise SIP Proxy server is connected to a Carrier
Proxy server and the call is processed without connection to the
PSTN.  Since SIP is an application layer protocol, SIP trunks can be
connected via any Layer 2 protocol such as ATM, Frame, Ethernet,
wireless or pure IP networks.  With SIP, the intelligence for call
setup and features resides on the SIP device or UA-User Agent, such
as an IP phone or a PC with voice or IM-Instant-Messaging
software.   In other words, carriers/providers will offer SIP
trunking as a mean for both gateways to PSTN and connection to other
SIP networks.
Before embarking on a designing a complex call center SIP network,
let's understand all the "moving parts."  Shown in the animated
tutorial are some of them also taking into consideration that
planning for IMS-IP Multi-media Service is also important.

ABOUT
TECHtionary.com produces dealer and customer training programs,
online presentations including iPod and PC formats sales brochures,
virtual installation manuals and animated online presentations.  The
company has more than 2,832+ free online presentations on data
communications,, internet, wireless, VoIP-Voice over Internet
Protocol, PBX Systems, central office switching, protocols,
telephony, telecommunications, networking, routing, IPTV, WiMax,
power systems, broadband, WiFi-wireless fidelity and other related
technologies available at http://www.techtionary.com.  Thomas Cross
is a magazine columnist with many key technology publications and a
member of the Technical Board of Advisors for the VoIP-Security
Alliance. He can be reached at 303-594-1694, or cross@....
TECHtionary also produces VoIP Dealer Sales and Business Development
Training.  Some of the key highlights of these courses are: Building
a VoIP Business, Selling & Marketing VoIP, Customer and End User
Training, VoIP Technology, Network Design, Provisioning, Customer
Service, Dealer Portal, and Enhanced & Professional Services.  More
details on this VoIP Dealer are available by calling Tom Cross at
303-594-1694 or cross@.... This training is also available
for presentation, web seminar or online tutorial.