BIAB isn't meant to "import the whole midi file" so perhaps the random
plinks and plunks that you get are resulting from too much data in the
melody track.  The "import from midi file" is really meant to import
only a single channel.  I know the ability to import all 16 channels
into the melody track, but the one time I tried that the results were so
horrible that I knew this was one case where the programmers hadn't
built in any mechanism for a user to be protected from himself.

Try importing only a single channel into the melody track and see what
happens.

--
David H. Bailey
dhbailey52@...

Hi David --
This seems to be a problem only with trying to add a melody or solo
to some existing files (probably from an earlier version of BIAB)
Works fine with new files. Boy this had me confused!
thanks--Joel

--- In Band-in-a-Box@y..., "David H. Bailey" <dhbailey52@a...> wrote:
> When you click on the part name (melody, solo) you should see the
volume
> level appearing in the little window to the left.  Check to be sure
> these are set to something well above 0.
>
> Other than that, I can't think of anything which would prevent your
> melody or soloist from being heard.
>
>
>
> joel_glassman13 wrote:
> > Hi everyone--
> > I just got BIAB last night. This will be very useful.
> > One problem when I use Soloist and the tool to
> > create melody: I see the notes generated but can't hear them.
> > The rhythm and percussion tracks are audible though.
> > It seems the main way to mute is with a right mouse click.
> > This turns the name next to the button red,
> > but the tracks aren't muted there.
> > Maybe there's a mute somewhere else?
> > Anyway, I'm baffled. Thanks   Joel
>
>
> --
> David H. Bailey
> dhbailey52@a...

Can anyone suggest (or sell me!) a suitable style for playing the old
Gerry and the Pacemakers song, Ferry Cross the Mersey.
Listening to the original it sounds vaguely like a bossa nova beat
but not as syncopated.

All advice grapefruitly accepted!

thanks

Paul K

> Can anyone suggest (or sell me!) a suitable style for playing the old
> Gerry and the Pacemakers song, Ferry Cross the Mersey.
> Listening to the original it sounds vaguely like a bossa nova beat
> but not as syncopated.

PG Music's Style Disk 22 was dedicated to British Sixties music, the
syncopation you mention is normally in the Bass and was a feature of a lot
of the music that originated in Liverpool in the early sixties The Beatles
(Paul McCartney) did it too. It's also worth checking out www.finetuned.net
and www.notronmusic.com to see if they have a style that matches.

Your other option would be to get the syncopated bass of one style and copy
it to a light rock or pop ballad style.

Regards

Graham

Graham@...

Hi!

I really do appreciate that many of you have shown
interest in providing some input at least in my
quest for a right style for the song I am composing,
namely: The Vicious Cycle of Strifes.  I will give
below the complete song-lyrics and may be
will be able to suggest better: The song's is
in a DRAFT MODE, so all suggestions are welcome.

Bridge:

The clock's tick-ing
Last mo-ments of my life/
I sit strap-ped to the death chair/
De-fi-ant at faces that stare/
The switch's pull-ed down, I burn/
Free from the vic-ious cy-cle of Strifes.//

Chorus:

It's a short life /
In the vic-ious cy-cle of strifes/
The vic-tim al-ways re-mains the vic-tim/
Of its ruth-less-ness wi-thin.//

Ver 1:

Born on the free-way call-ed Strifes/
Nev-er known who my folks were/
Done drugs and dope, guns and kni-ves/
All the vic-es I could dare.//

Ver 2:

The vic-ious cy-cle of Strifes/
Groom-ed me well in vic-ious-ness/
Deal-ing me like a health-y franch-ise/
De-struc-tion with mind-less-ness.//

Chorus (repeat)

Ver 3:

In the vic-ious cy-cle of Strifes/
I up-held no hon-or and gave no mer-cy/
And when at last they  caught up with me/
I felt no re-morse nor guilt-y//.

Bridge (as above)
Chorus (as above)

Well, the versatile composers among you, while this is
deviation from our BIAB routine, please do contribute.

Paul.



----- Original Message -----
From: Mitch Zytnowski <mitchzee@...>
To: <Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Re:Right Style for a Song


> Pardon an old disc jockey for correcting here...    "Seasons in the Sun"
was
> Terry Jacks.    R Dean Taylor did "Indiana Wants Me", complete with police
> sirens and bullhorn messages to the effect of,  "Come out with your hands
> up!" at the end of the record.
>
> Maybe that would be appropriate, but it sounds like this is intended to be
a
> very dark tune. I don't know that the style is critical here, but rather
the
> tempo and instuments and key. Sounds like it should certainly be in a
minor
> key perhaps with a lot of synthesizer voices (atmospheric), a lot of
rested
> instruments at key parts, and a very slow tempo.  Here's a thought: Do you
> remember "Dead or Alive" by Bon Jovi. Starts out with an almost "old west
> showdown" kind of feeling. If you're going for a mood, that's a good
example
> of a song that sets it. Your intended mood may be totally different but it
> may be a good reference point.
>
>
>
> Mitch Zytnowski
> mitchzee@...
> 319-372-6805
> CELL 319-371-7771
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Any D Music" <graham@...>
> To: <Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Re:Right Style for a Song
>
>
> > Hmmm Country, Latin, M*A*S*H
> >
> > Could try it in the style of "Seasons In the Sun", which I think was R
> Dean
> > Taylor not sure exactly how to describe the style it was West Coast
Motown
> > recording but from memory it had a country feel although the sound of a
> lot
> > of the instruments, especially the guitars, was very Motown.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Graham
> >
> > Graham@...
> >

I really like Thelonious Monk's piano style, and I'm surprised with
the wealth of styles in BIAB v. 11 that there's no Monk style.

Does anyone know of a source for such a style?

Thanks!

JL

At 03:08 PM 10/1/02 +0000, "Paul" <paulyuk6@...> wrote:
>Can anyone suggest (or sell me!) a suitable style for playing the old
>Gerry and the Pacemakers song, Ferry Cross the Mersey.
>Listening to the original it sounds vaguely like a bossa nova beat
>but not as syncopated.

Try some of the styles at
http://www.nortonmusic.com/styledemo.html

Notes
- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...
http://www.nortonmusic.com

The most popular aftermarket BiaB styles in the world -- for about $1 each

Hi
I haven't posted before...although it was interesting to see someone else
with my name posting recently, I was wondering if anyone has had any
problems with installing either BIAB or Roland VSC on win XP?

It's just that I work from home doing photo restoration and the xp computer
is my main work one, but has better capacity than my old computer CPU wise
as well as hard disc capacity.

I have played sax, a bit of fill in keyboards and back up vocals in bands up
until the last one folded 3 years ago and have just upgraded to BIAB 11
after ...version 1.1!!!! which I got three years ago free with a midi cable,
and so I'm only going to use BIAB for personal enjoyment more than anything
else.

Thanks

Layne
in Tasmania, Australia

Hi, everyone:

    If I change the song's key, how to setup to let flat and low sign
(#,b) can mark in every need note?

    thanks .

afu

Hi -- I recently posted a similar question here and got several
positive responses.  I've installed BIAB on my XP machine with no
problem.

As to the VSC, when you install it the system will pop up a warning
message saying VSC hasn't been tested with Windows XP and advising
you to stop the installation.  You can ignore the warning and go
ahead with the install -- I did and had no problems.

If you want to be really safe, do as others advised me and do either
a full backup of your PC or a save of system state.

Good luck!

JL

--- In Band-in-a-Box@y..., "Layne Hardcastle" <layneh@n...> wrote:
> Hi
> I haven't posted before...although it was interesting to see
someone else
> with my name posting recently, I was wondering if anyone has had
any
> problems with installing either BIAB or Roland VSC on win XP?
>
> It's just that I work from home doing photo restoration and the xp
computer
> is my main work one, but has better capacity than my old computer
CPU wise
> as well as hard disc capacity.
>
> I have played sax, a bit of fill in keyboards and back up vocals
in bands up
> until the last one folded 3 years ago and have just upgraded to
BIAB 11
> after ...version 1.1!!!! which I got three years ago free with a
midi cable,
> and so I'm only going to use BIAB for personal enjoyment more than
anything
> else.
>
> Thanks
>
> Layne
> in Tasmania, Australia

In a message dated 10/2/02 11:50:50 AM Central Daylight Time,
Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com writes:


> Re:Right Style for a Song

I believe you need Style Disk #999....the Capital Punishment Collection.

Robert


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Does anyone have a BIAB or good midi for "Somewhere" of West Side
Story?  Also a good site for show tunes in BIAB or midi.
Thanks

I'm looking for some basic smooth jazz styles to
modify (or not) to accompany my jazz guitar playing.
Any suggestions? Thanks.

For some unkown reason, I had difficulty starting BIAB.
I decided to so a system re-start and BIAB finally came up right as the
system was shutting down.
Ever since this time, my program is corrupted.
The drums will play, but everything else sounds like a cross between a
typewriter and machine gun.
The virtual canvas seems to work OK by itself or with the Flatpick program,
etc.
I tried resetting the Roland module or any other likely menu choice, but
nothing seems to work.
Restting the module does something, but does not play the tunes as saved.
It seems to play everything in piano only, or some such nonsense.

I was just minding my own business, I didn't change or alter anything and
now the program is %$!* ed.
Any suggestions would be immesely appreciated.
I was working hard on a project and I find this unbidden interruption
EXTREMELY frustrating!!!

Terrance

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Subject Case Adjusted]

At 01:11 PM 10/2/02 -0700, you wrote:
>I'm looking for some basic smooth jazz styles to
>modify (or not) to accompany my jazz guitar playing.
>Any suggestions? Thanks.

Norton Music has some smooth jazz, jazz hip hop (often heard on smooth jazz
radio), 16 beats, new age and lots of other styles that work for smooth jazz.

Go to http://www.nortonmusic.com/styledemo.html to hear the demo files.

Notes
- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...
http://www.nortonmusic.com

The most popular aftermarket BiaB styles in the world. Why? Because they
are the best!

At 06:07 PM 10/2/02 +0000, "K_ROZE" <k_roze@...> wrote:
>Does anyone have a BIAB or good midi for "Somewhere" of West Side
>Story?  Also a good site for show tunes in BIAB or midi.

Norton Music has 24 different fake books and fake disks available. Each
fake disk page has a complete song list so you can browse to your hearts
content. Many of the jazz fake books do contain a lot of show tunes since
so many show tunes became jazz standards.

Notes
- - - - - - - - -
Bob "Notes" Norton
owner, Norton Music
norton@...
http://www.nortonmusic.com

Aftermarket user styles recommended by leading trade magazines like
Electronics Musician Magazine and Keyboard.

Has occured to you that it's not the medium at all.
Perhaps *it's the way* things are recorded, or remastered onto CD
that makes them sound "weird" to you. I'm not belittling  your
observation. You are not crazy. There is a marked difference. However
CD's can sound just as good if you record to them properly.
I'm not going into recording or audio engineering, but it matters.


--- In Band-in-a-Box@y..., Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@n...> wrote:
> Analog and Digital each have their own distortions. In other words,
neither
> is perfect.
>
> Listening to A/B tests in a high end stereo store on the same
recording,
> some people (myself included) can hear the difference. Others
cannot. For
> those who cannot hear the difference, it makes no difference.
>
> The difference is very hard to explain, but as others have noted,
analog
> does seem warmer and digital edgier to me.
>
> Neither vinyl or digital will or can give a perfect reproduction of
the
> original. Every time you go through any device, distortion is
added. This
> includes the DA and AD converters of a digital recording. Analog
doesn't
> have that limitation, but we get the tape hiss plus if listening to
vinyl
> the surface noise of the record.
>
> So which is better? Depends on the ears. Which distorted version of
the
> original sound do you want to live with? Which type of distortion
sounds
> better to you or which one is more distracting?
>
> I prefer to listen to Mark Murphy and Stan Getz on good, clean
vinyl. Why?
> I have heard both these artists live and I think vinyl recreates
their
> personal, live tone better than digital does. I can ignore the
added noise
> distortion easier than I can ignore the change of the timbre of
their
> voices (Stan and Mark have an edge on CD that they did not have
when I
> heard them in person).
>
> I prefer to listen to symphony orchestras on CDs. I think the
clarity of
> the CD enhances their performance. Plus vinyl tends to soften the
edge on
> the high strings when they are played very aggressively.
>
> After saying that, I often listen to Stan and Mark on CD because it
is
> easier and I don't have to flip the album. But when I am doing
serious
> listening of these (and a few other) artists, I prefer the LP (I
have both
> for my favorites). Of course, this is for my ears, YMMV.
>
> I like the sound of tube amplifiers better than solid state ones,
too. But
> I own a solid state amp. If I had unlimited funds, I'd get a high-
end,
> tube, McIntosh amp. But that is another thread ;)
>
> Digital has made leaps and bounds since the CD was first
introduced. When
> they first came out, I thought they sounded much too tinny. My
newer Sony
> ES CD player has made even some of the earlier produced CDs sound
better
> than they did on older players. If I read the sales-spec-talk
right, it is
> partially due to a higher resolution DA converter. But I don't
really know
> enough about the subject to give a knowledgeable answer. It's
probably
> quite a combination of things.
>
> But to me, the quality of the music is *much* more important than
the
> medium. My older, fairly low fidelity to low fidelity, (but then
> state-of-the-art) recordings of Lambert, Hendricks and Ross; Buddy
Greco;
> Louis Jordan; Charlie Parker; Stan Getz; Zoot Sims; Lester Young;
Led
> Zepplin; Jethro Tull; Yes; Ray Charles; King Curtis; Cannonball
Adderly;
> Sweets Edison; Jimmy Smith; Paul Desmond; Bobby Bland; pre-funk
James
> Brown; Count Basie; Duke Ellington; Stan Kenton; Robert Johnson;
Nat "King"
> Cole; Elvis; Beatles; Antonio Carlos Jobim; Gilberto Santa Rosa
Orchestra;
> La Selecta; Machito; Thelonius Monk; George Szell; Leonard
Bernstein;
> Alfred Wallenstein; Herbert von Karajan; Pablo Cassals; Georg
Solti; Antal
> Dorati; Seiji Ozawa; and too many others to mention recordings will
get
> played at least until I am no longer on the planet. Hopefully, they
will
> live on long after I'm gone.
>
> I do prefer good quality sound if I can get it. That is why I drive
an
> additional 50 miles (for a total of over 100 miles one way) past the
> closest concert hall to one with better acoustics to hear the
Florida
> Philharmonic. I would love for many of my old recordings to be
magically
> transformed into new state-of-the-art recordings with nothing
changed but
> the fidelity. But as we know that is impossible. So I still listen
to the
> old music along with some of the newer, more sonically pure
recordings. The
> contrast doesn't really bother me because I listen to the music,
*not* the
> stereo set.
>
> So for me, it is not nostalgia, or being accustomed to one type of
> distortion instead of another, or new recordings vs old ones.
Instead it is
> what tickles my eardrums and my soul.
>
> Insights and incites brought to you by
> Notes
> - - - - - - - - -
> Bob "Notes" Norton
> owner, Norton Music
> norton@n...
> http://www.nortonmusic.com
>
> The most popular aftermarket BiaB styles in the world. Why? Because
they
> are the best!

Try Reinstalling Band IN The Box.

--- In Band-in-a-Box@y..., "Terrance Wollin" <trwollin@e...> wrote:
> For some unkown reason, I had difficulty starting BIAB.
> [snip]
> Terrance

Layne,

No problem installing, but there is a problem when you use the notation window
on staff while playing music. You will get an application error about every 5-6
times you play a song.

The best I can determine is that you need to be in the FAT32 file system. The
NTFS seems to be what causes the problem. My Toshiba computer can not be put
completely in FAT32. You can determine your file system by going to properties
of your C drive.

I have changed to Windows ME because of this problem.

Gary
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Layne Hardcastle
   To: Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:35 PM
   Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] BIAB and win XP


   Hi
   I haven't posted before...although it was interesting to see someone else
   with my name posting recently, I was wondering if anyone has had any
   problems with installing either BIAB or Roland VSC on win XP?

   It's just that I work from home doing photo restoration and the xp computer
   is my main work one, but has better capacity than my old computer CPU wise
   as well as hard disc capacity.

   I have played sax, a bit of fill in keyboards and back up vocals in bands up
   until the last one folded 3 years ago and have just upgraded to BIAB 11
   after ...version 1.1!!!! which I got three years ago free with a midi cable,
   and so I'm only going to use BIAB for personal enjoyment more than anything
   else.

   Thanks

   Layne
   in Tasmania, Australia

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Have you checked out the styles on PGMusic's styles disk 28?

Will Cook wrote:
> I'm looking for some basic smooth jazz styles to
> modify (or not) to accompany my jazz guitar playing.
> Any suggestions? Thanks.

--
David H. Bailey
dhbailey52@...

Try reinstalling it -- it won't overwrite any songs you have saved, so
your work won't be wasted.

Terrance Wollin wrote:
> For some unkown reason, I had difficulty starting BIAB.

--
David H. Bailey
dhbailey52@...

Are you referring here to how a lot of early tape to cd transfers were done
in the 80s? I.e. engineers boosted the highs like they were accustomed to
doing with analog tape, and the resulting cd's had a harsh top-end?

Chris

At 01:00 AM 10/3/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>Has occured to you that it's not the medium at all.
>Perhaps *it's the way* things are recorded, or remastered onto CD
>that makes them sound "weird" to you. I'm not belittling  your
>observation. You are not crazy. There is a marked difference. However
>CD's can sound just as good if you record to them properly.
>I'm not going into recording or audio engineering, but it matters.
>
>
>--- In Band-in-a-Box@y..., Bob 'Notes' Norton <norton@n...> wrote:
> > Analog and Digital each have their own distortions. In other words,
>neither
> > is perfect.
> >
> > Listening to A/B tests in a high end stereo store on the same
>recording,
> > some people (myself included) can hear the difference. Others
>cannot. For
> > those who cannot hear the difference, it makes no difference.
> >
> > The difference is very hard to explain, but as others have noted,
>analog
> > does seem warmer and digital edgier to me.
> > [snip]

The first thing I would do is reinstall biab.
Programs can and do get corrupted for various reasons.

Jim Barry

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Terrance Wollin
   To: Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:29 PM
   Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] Sometimes, I Hate This Program!


   For some unkown reason, I had difficulty starting BIAB.
   I decided to so a system re-start and BIAB finally came up right as the
   system was shutting down.
   Ever since this time, my program is corrupted.
   [snip]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> I'm looking for some basic smooth jazz styles to
> modify (or not) to accompany my jazz guitar playing.
> Any suggestions? Thanks.

PG's Style Disk 28 is really good for thin in my opinion.

Regards

Graham

Graham@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will Cook" <gwillcook@...>
To: <Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:11 PM
Subject: [Band-in-a-Box] Smooth jazz styles


> I'm looking for some basic smooth jazz styles to
> modify (or not) to accompany my jazz guitar playing.
> Any suggestions? Thanks.

That, plus I have noticed that some of the early album-to-CD transfers
were not done from the master-tapes, remixed with the same attention to
detail that the original analog-recording remix people used.  Some were
simply transfered from the final master (Carole King's Tapestry leaps to
mind as one that was very poorly transferred) placing objects on a
single flat plane in the mix and losing a lot of the depth of the original.

Most more recent reissues are really being remastered and are coming
through fine.

Personally, I don't think I could tell if a recording were made
digitally or analog, if all the recording media and equipment were in
pristine condition and the final product were presented on CD for me to
listen to.

And I really don't care (as long as what happened to Tapestry doesn't
happen again) -- there is always ambient noise while I listen to music,
whether live in a club, live in a concert hall, on the radio or from a
recording.  Cars going by, the phone ringing, people coughing or
sneezing, clothing making sounds as people move even slightly, you name
it.  I have never (nor do I want to) listened to music in a totally
silent (except for the music I was listening to) room.  That's just not
the reality of music.



Chris Smart wrote:
> Are you referring here to how a lot of early tape to cd transfers were done
> in the 80s? I.e. engineers boosted the highs like they were accustomed to
> doing with analog tape, and the resulting cd's had a harsh top-end?
>
> Chris

--
David H. Bailey
dhbailey52@...

Well, the end of the year is approaching and that usually means that a
new version of BiaB will be released.

Has anyone heard anything about a new release, and if so, what will be
in it?

~Dave (www.blue-attitude.net)

Tks Robert and where do I get this?

Paul.
----- Original Message -----
From: <obmark1@...>
To: <Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Band-in-a-Box] Right Style for a Song


> In a message dated 10/2/02 11:50:50 AM Central Daylight Time,
> Band-in-a-Box@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
>
> > Re:Right Style for a Song
>
> I believe you need Style Disk #999....the Capital Punishment Collection.
>
> Robert

Hello all -

Can anyone recommend a styles disk for pop/techno and/or world beat rhythms?
I guess the techno speaks for itself, but what I'm looking for with world
beat is a Deep Forest kind of genre thingy.

And yes, that is the technical term.  LOL

Thanks!

Leah Clark


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

ISO "nobody knows you"

Is that the title or a piece of the lyric?

Reminded me of the request for "over sleepy" that turned out to be a
request for "Deep Purple."

"When the Deep Purple falls,
Over sleepy garden walls, ..."

JimW

--- In Band-in-a-Box@y..., "David H. Bailey" <dhbailey52@a...> wrote:
I am certainly not a BIAB expert, but in my short time I have also
run into this.  It looks to me like the triplet note mode will not
DISPLAY some syncopated eigth notes (16th's) properly, but seems to
play them properly.  I suggest you try the triplet mode and then
input the 16th notes as best you can, and see what happens.

> It seems as if the program is EITHER in triplet mode or in 16th-
note
> mode.  But not both, if you are trying to enter notation.
>
> The closest you can approximate them, is to use 16th-notes and
place the
> triplet as 16th-8th-16th.  This is only a very poor approximation
of a
> triplet, but it is the best that BIAB can do in a non-triplet
resolution
> notation.
>
> Perhaps version 12 will improve in this regard.
>
>
> --
> David H. Bailey
> dhbailey52@a...