Rick, thanks for the kind words. The presentation is in progress.

However, I will not be posting the entire presentation to this list. Although I
will post a link to the video on this list, when it is done. If people on this
list want to see the whole detailed presentation they will have to complete the
tasks on this list first - build the SSG as instructed and post load testing
data. Then they can be invited onto the advanced lists where the entire
presentation will be posted. This is to avoid people jumping ahead and being
disappointed.

As you have stated, all of the instructions have been posted on Peswiki and are
in John's FEG book. I have done nothing different to what has been posted and
written. In fact, when I did it didn't work.

@Group - Everything Rick says below is 100% correct. It is difficult to
replicate because the timing is tricky and it will be different for each setup.
There are no magic numbers, just trial and error and persistance. Please refrain
from private e-mails to me on how to build a self-runner, you will learn nothing
by being spoon-fed.

Finally, as Rick states, this is not the ideal "holy grail" setup. I only did
this to learn more about the technology and to prove to the skeptics that it can
be done. I'd rather just swap front and back end batteries around when needed,
(which you can't do with the SSG on the front page of this list) rather than
having to constantly monitor primary battery voltages. I'm not discouraging
anyone from replicating their own, beacuse you will learn a lot by doing it.

John

----- Original Message ----
From: rickfriedrich <rickfriedrich@...>
To: Bedini_Monopole3@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 5 August, 2007 1:44:17 AM
Subject: [Bedini_Monopole3] Re: Successful Replication of Rick's SSG
Self-Runner!

John,

Thanks for all your efforts. I look forward to seeing your
presentation.

And to think that I got the timing perfectly on the first placement
of the contacts. I only told a few people that, and I was laughing
the whole time because initially I was not even planning on doing a
self-runner.

The extra energizer coil needs to be big enough, gapping needs to be
just right, and timing just right. As at least one other person
reported, if they are off on the timing then you could consume more
energy in that primary battery. But if the general timing is close
enough, you will at least greatly reduce the draining of the primary,
and that is not because of mere reduction of rpm.

What people need to do is go back to John's 1984 book and reproduce
the waves on their oscopes. When you can do that with your setup in
the adjusting of timing, etc., then you will have a situation where
the battery does not 'know' it is powering anything, and is just in
recharge mode. It is like hitting the battery with a tuning fork at
the right time in the right frequency and you got it. You can see
from the directions it doesn't take a lot of coil to make an
energizer big enough to create that SIGNAL. The point is not to
create and push current by that coil or coils, but to have a hv sharp
gradiant which the battery sees and the forces of nature respond to
IN THE BATTERY by placing the battery in recharge mode to deal with
the imbalance in trying to create a state of equilibrium on either
side of the battery walls. As a result the work that the battery does
in driving the circuit is all absorbed in that process, as it
overflows so much so-to-speak into that part of the cycle that the
battery remains charged. Thus a capacitor would have to be very large
to do this sort of thing, and a battery is perfect for it.

You cannot do this with current flow and that is the fundamental
misunderstanding with most people. If you try and use current to keep
your battery charged then you will 1. Only heat your battery and kill
the dipole; 2. Not have enough to keep your battery charged and power
the load. This I made the briefest reference to in my short
presentation and emails when I noted the difference of using a cap
across the output of the bridge rectifier or in using no cap there.
The cap would be continually connected to the energizer coil (through
the bridge rectifier) and would slow down the wheel by closing the
loop in the energizer continuously and creating a lower voltage
potential across the cap than would be in the coil without the cap,
when it is pulsed across the one primary battery. In such a case we
are also pushing more current to charge the battery than the same
setup without a cap. Without the cap the only closing of the loop is
for a very short period of time, and so there is very little drag on
the rotor and the coil can build a higher potential.

Again, if you were to look at this conventionally and try and match
watts in for watts out you would loose in most cases. While the wheel
can give you some torque, it will NOT be enough in many cases, to
keep the battery charged in a conventional form of recovery and
recharging of the primary. Conventional theory generally does NOT see
any benefit in pulsed over constant current flow. So a
conventionalist would merely add an alternator to the rotor and push
electrons across the battery. This would kill the dipole in the
battery, heat it, and put an excessive load on the rotor, and would
not be enough to keep it charged and/or keep the rotor going. But
modify the alternator or energizer a little, as shown, and only use
it a small part of the time across the battery, and you will find
something much different. The rotor will have very little drag and
the battery will charge much faster and better. This has been
somewhat demonstrated in everything that has been presented over the
last 20 some years. It is simple enough to verify as I have pointed
out over the last 2 or more years.

What John below (not John Bedini) has shown is that the timing is
tricky, as Bedini said in the book. Thus the self-running setup is
not very easy and takes time. I just happened to strike upon the
perfect timing right away with my self-runner presentation setup as I
have some experience doing this. What I am getting at is that it is
much better and much easier to charge additional batteries with this
process rather than consume so much time tinkering to get the primary
battery charging. Better in that there is more work out with the
former than with the latter. That is when you understand this energy
and what can be done with it. And if it causes little drag in this
unique magneto energizer system to charge batteries, then, as I said
in the self-runner video, you could charge many batteries with
additional energizer coils, as I have done at different times.

At any rate, now you can all see what I have been saying all along.
If you just follow the instructions and actually experiment yourself
BEFORE you try and understand the hows and whys, you will definitely
see OU. If you do not it is simply because you have not followed the
instructions and/or are leaning too much upon conventional charging
theories in your construction plans and testing.

One final note in relation to this list. While I will allow reporting
of testing of self-runners, I am not going to allow questions about
how to do it. This has been explained above, and in my peswiki pages,
and is all over John's web pages and in his book. We did say it was
tricky, but there are no instructions missing. Once anyone learns how
to build the basic SSG as we are showing and helping with here, it is
not very hard to go on to those next stages.

Rick

> Hi All,
>
> I've finally been able to get my replication of Rick's SSG self-
runner to self-power!
>
> It's early days yet, but over a 3 hour period the primary battery
has risen from 12.58 to 12.75 whilst running the setup and charging a
secondary battery. The standing voltage for the primary battery has
risen from 12.78 to 12.92.
>
> More details on setup, data and a video to follow.
>
> Load testing on secondary battery compared to battery charged
conventionally to start soon.
>
> It's all in the timing...
>
> John
>
>
>
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