Adriano is right: to exclude the possibility of a chemical
phenomenon in the lead acid cell, a large (4000+uF 25V) Electrolytic
Cap should be placed instead of the battery. This can be precharged
prior testing and with a voltmeter across it's terminals and amp
meter in series it can be easily monitored to see if
everything "fits". It occured to me that possibly a similar
phenomenum could occur also in electrolitic capacitors, but at least
the basic anode and cathode are completely different materials and
are concentrically wrapped having a different layout.
I wanted also to mention a small "spark gap" experiment I tried on
my setup based on the comments. I don't have iron in the coil core
and this way it self rings without the need of external magnetic
impulse. On the supposed "output" I put 2 small graphite points taken
from soft "HB" pencil tips pointing each other (so in brief, the
circuit is similar to what Markus has proposed but the spark gap is
between the output diode and the coil, not on the base resistor) with
a minuscle gap and on the input 2 1000uF caps in parallel. Through a
contact I charge the caps when needed through a small 22Ohm resistor
to avoid sparking. I "prime" the wheel as when a spark occurs the
self ringing is killed but the magnets kickstart it again - an
external pulse trigger circuit could be easily used instead. On
noticing the discharge V of the source capacitor when the sparking
occurs, there are moments where the capacitor voltage actually
increases and the discharge time is longer. It is difficult for me to
judge any "reverse current" as on my scope I only see peaks and a lot
of noise. Also, the transient the spark creates also naturally
produces some back EMF so there are many factors to consider. Maybe
someone else can try this and see what results they get.
I also approximately replicated Markus's setup and got
interesting results (considering that I have a "ringing coil" that
rings at each pulse instead of delivering a "spike"). The current
drawn from my battery was approx 6mAmps at 13.080V and the wheel
stabilized at about 90rpms. Input VA seems pretty low (78,5mW).
Considering the wheel is a 13" old bicycle wheel and the air and
bearing firction, I wonder what the balance is. I am also aware that
my coil rings around 2KHz with a base resistance of about 5KOhms (the
higher the value, the higher the frequency in the resultant LC
circuit naturally) so the instrument may not be correct due to the
abnormal operational frequency and non linear duty cycle.
Regards
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Bedini_SG@yahoogroups.com, "Sterling D. Allan"
<sterlingda@p...> wrote:
> was posted by Adriano at:
>
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bedini_SG:Replications:Marcus:S
elf-Running
> or try:
http://tinyurl.com/5lafm
>
> from: abassign@y...
>
> Good Morning Marcus,
>
> Four years ago I have realized a similar experiment, after a long
series of tests, have found a result similar to yours for
approximately two hours. I hope of being able to send the video to
you.
>
> The battery, for two hours, was recharged. Then I have modified the
trimmer and is stopped the phenomenon.
>
> I have read the description of your experiment, and think that the
phenomenon is legacy just to the variable resistance that you have
used. The variable resistance that I used was of linear type from 10
K., when the system worked the resistance produced a lot of small
sparkes, I have the feeling that these are the cause of the
phenomenon. The test of JLN on the machine of Newman task that is
assimilable (
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/nwjlself.htm ). The energy
production happened, probably, because the collector produced one
great amount of sparkes. Unfortunately JLN has not never deepened the
test.
>
> Task that is important to understand such aspect and to replace the
coil with a generator of impulses (MEG because not)...
>
> I hope that the phenomenon from observed you is not caused from an
electrochemical process of the batteries. It would be useful to try
to sobstitute the battery with a condensers, as of the rest it made
JLN with its experiment.
>
> Good job, Adriano from Firenze (Italy)