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Re: [Bhutan-eForest] Cordyceps,, yaks and our alpine pasture

Dear Purna,
 
Thank you for the posting.
 
I envy you at your accomplishment of the trek you undertook from Lhuntsi to Trashiyantsi over the high mountain passes. The high Himalayan mountain passes indeed present themselves as experiences close to heaven. I love mountain trekking. I continue to relish the memories of my own many treks over our high rocky mountains, glaciers, morraines, lakes and alpine pastures. I hope an opportunity will arise for me one day to make that trip you undertook.
 
Now coming over to one of the subjects you touched, Cordyceps, I want to discuss it further. I have heard this before that now the yak herders have become very rich from the sale of Cordyceps that they will buy up properties in the lower valleys, and they will give up their primary livelihood of yak hearding. I feel that this is not a fair comment.
 
Firstly, by implication, it is that we do not like the idea of our rural people coming out of the poverty trap. It is the right of every Bhutanese to aspire to get rich, and buy properties anywhere in the country. 
 
Secondly, what is the point of saying that we are rich in biodiversity if when it brings people economic benefit, we immediately voice concern, and want to lock it up. 
 
Thirdly, I have discussed earlier that historically, the economic shelf life of a high value natural product from the wild is short mainly due to domestication and substitution, for example, rubber is now obtained from large scale rubber plantations (domestication), and natural chewing gum has been replaced by petroleum gel (substitution). The extractors of these natural resources lost their sources of cash income, and these resources in the wild are not extracted anymore. There is therefore no guarantee that Cordyceps will continue to fetch attractive price for a long time.
 
Just the other day, I was with a prominent Cordyceps exporter during a social occassion. He said that in the two years Cordyceps business he was in, he suffered a 50% loss on his total investment, and that he is not participating in the business this year. He said that due to the current global financial crisis that the international demand may not be strong, and price received may not be attractive at all. The price last year was much less than the year before which greatly disappointed the collectors. The  'gold rush' by people to the high alpine areas may be much diminished this year, and if the price fetched this year is worse, there would certainly be less collectors next year.
 
In the natural resource management, particularly for non-timber forest products, it is important to heed to an old saying, 'Make Hay While the Sun Shines'.
 
Our concern for sustainability particularly of plant products is going little overboard. Ishall be glad to discuss it in a separate posting.
 
I must stop here for today.
 
Kind regards
 
Phuntsho Namgyel
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


From: purna chhetri <purnab_2000@...>
To: Bhutan-eForest@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:33:27 PM
Subject: [Bhutan-eForest] Cordyceps,, yaks and our alpine pasture

Dear Collogues
I may be wrong but i would like to bring few things regarding the Cordyceps, legaligation and its lucrative trade for last few years. On this issue, i have already informed this forum that in Autumn 2007, we made a trip from Khoma ( Lhutse) to Bumdeling ( Yangtse) via Garula appr.5300 mals pass. On this journey, i have made some interesting observation, the following were some of them.
1. The Cordyceps sinensis grows very close to glaciers...it may be required glacier influeced temperature and humity for its optimum growth and survival.
 
2. both host ( insect) and fungi are important for its sustainabilty
 
3. Alarming but happening ..the glacier is melting at alarmingly high rate ( you could see moranes) scractes left behind by melting ice. To mee the flooding in Bumdeling valley was the result of the massive loss of ice on those mountain tops ( above shingphel areas)
4. At the social front there are tri--( three) interests group at the collection level itself ( the people with legal rights that is the residents of the alpine pastures..basically the yak herders, downstreams community ( they also wants to have the right to collect) and the poachers across the borders). Seemingly, it would be nice to see the conflict resolved at the beginning itself.
5. My suspision..and i asked the people to confirm my claims..that the people who have the legal rights to collect Cordyceps are also yak herders. with the enough cash flow in thier hands means..they yaks will not be a lucrative ventures for them and slowly they would desend down to settle in urban areas. I thin this is already happening..so what happens to the nice yak culture in our alpine ?
 
6. A suggestion: it would deem appropriate to start a community based tourism based on the cash earned from Cordyceps.. and also taking our yaks to elevated market commomdities ( the organic yak meat and produces). To me yaks are the most organic domesticated animals because they grazed on the alpine pasures of numerous herbs of medicinal values. These areas are not at al polulted with chemicals neither with exotic grasses. Therefore there is a great prospect on selling yak  produces even at international with organic logo.
 
That is all for today
 
Best regards,
 
Purna B.Chhetri
Research Fellow
Inst.of Silviculture
BOKU, Vienna Austria.
 
 

 






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Dear Purna, Thank you for the posting. I envy you at your accomplishment of the trek you undertook from Lhuntsi to Trashiyantsi over the high mountain passes....
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Unfortunately I never made it across Garula, and have only seen the Cordyceps around Singphel. I assume that you may be able to find Cordyceps where the host...
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Dear Piet van der Poel   Thanks for your comments. If you are careful of my writing firstly i said i may be wrong.. well regarding floods in Bomdeling to me...
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HI Purna, I fully agree that you did not say you knew for sure what the link between glaciers and cordyceps was. I offer my opinion. As far as Baregang Chhu is...
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Dear Piet van der Poel Nice to hear from you so quickly. I think no one is sure what really triggered such events. we are proposing  some hypothetical...
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Dear all I would like to apologise for not convincing the readers regarding the Cordyceps, i not intending to tell that people shouldnot get richer and buy...
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