... [...] Thanks for your detailed response. I will peruse it at length shortly. ... No, no, I was being much more egotistical than that. The j was for ...
... Since bOP seems to have user,login and roles infrastructure built-in, it MUST be handling sessions somehow! By above statement(s) , do you mean, sessions...
... It's all magic. ... Seriously --- bOP does NOT use Apache sessions. It uses cookies only. so there is no state management inside of Apache (no session...
... Remember that the first Emacs was written in TECO, and was an extremely powerful and complete app. TECO and Forth are soulmates, if not immediate cousins....
... Thus, no Intel Macs for me just yet .... :) -- "Why is the sky blue?" "Because the troposphere is an NT process which has crashed." Tom Vilot 303-875-7981...
... A session is a denormalization of state already contained in the database or on the client, i.e., it's a cache. The purpose of a cache is to improve...
So, if I understand it correct, session information is delegated to hidden fields in the browser and/or cookie. This definitely will make the server/database...
... Could be. It's a bit hard to tell from the data. The app does grow to about 60MB on most servers, but it usually caps out. The growth is due to lazy...
... No. The "authentication credentials" are stored in a cookie. There is no ephemeral information created or stored in the cookie or elsewhere when you...
... It's just semantics, but I'd call that a session. I'd also call any server-side data about a user's current state a session, even if it is kept in...
... it depends on what you call 'a page.' AFAIC, bOP pages are stateless. Yes, they "access" state (in the database). But they don't use the (conventional)...
... Call it a request then. ... Rob just said they track where you are in a process using a stack mechanism. That's not stateless. ... That's a pretty big...
... They store the client's state. By definition, anything in a "page" is state. It's not function, and it is not time. When people speak about sessions,...
Hi All. ... For the past couple years I've been working with bOP mostly full time (except for the C++ and python work, or plain old perl data wrangling)....
... I learned the word 'sessions' in the context of Java servlets and related frameworks. Sessions are place where you can store stuff in the memory of the...
... And a request is not a session. ... I'm curious how you see the lack of temporary variables and the use of map as tied with stateless programming. Not that...
... Contrast this with the place (to remain nameless) I recently worked at. They didn't even know you COULD do a stack trace in Perl! (( sigh )) 'twas doomed...
... Probably stretching the terminology here but whenever I pair with Rob it seems like he goes to a lot of trouble to rearrange his or my code to replace...
... So, it all translates to the good old Software Engg 'theorem' - bugs are directly proportional to the number of lines of code. If I understand it right,...
... True, and by programming functionally, one can validate the relationships between the elements more easily. Here's some code from Bivio::ShellUtil: sub...
... Although, less code is better, there's more too it than a simple measure of lines of code. A while back I wrote up a story about my first real encounter...
... I'm not sure what to make of bOP's learning curve. On one hand it seems like a smell -- this stuff ought to be easier to figure out. I think of myself as...
... It's tough for all of us. I'm continually learning. What differentiates bOP from other systems is that we are modifying our process continually. We just...
... Rob Nagler --- Ever the student :c) (keeps you young, man!! You never get old!) (( sigh )) I wish I could get a place like Cisco to use this stuff. What's ...
... Maybe they were suffering from 'Square pole in round hole' syndrom ;) ... Geez! that's harsh !! Although I use emacs so guess I'm not ill :)) ... I...
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