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#1486 From: "David Starr" <david@...>
Date: Wed Dec 3, 2008 6:10 pm
Subject: New User Forum
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The 2009 Boise Code Camp planning is underway and we are kicking off
with a few new changes.

1. The website will be moving to a new, fresher system soon.
2. The Yahoo new goup is now deprecated in favor or a Google group
located here:
http://groups.google.com/group/BCCTF

I will invite everyone on this list to the nerw group. Please consider
this discussion board deprecated.

#1485 From: "Scott Nichols" <snichols@...>
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 6:13 am
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Money raising tips for Seattle
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Yes, it was Cory and myself that handled the bulk of the fundraising, cash and prizes.

 

A good chunk of our cash came from local companies i.e. all the ones the committee members worked for and a few that just heard about the event via one of our flyers posted around town and in peoples in-boxes, those were the easy ones, they came to us.  The local sponsors accounted for nearly half of our cash based revenue.   The rest came from the commercial vendors.  We simply made a list (in Excel) of all the vendors we could think of and then scoured their websites looking for contact information and sent them an e-mail (SPAM fashion) letting them know we were looking for sponsors.  I did personalize each SPAM e-mail a bit to match the vendor.   We then spent the next several weeks answering lots of questions from potential sponsors.   We probably had about a 30% success rate i.e. 3 out of every 10 vendors we contacted signed up.    The .Net vendors are the most responsive as you can see from our web site, most of the vendor sponsors on our web site sell .Net based technologies.  I do not know why that is just reporting the facts.   The tech schools are go to hit up as well, we always have a couple of them sign up too.   

 

Having a designated business checking account and credit card services was a big help too, we use NetDUG’s as you might remember.   A lot of vendors do not like writing checks or sending their credit card info to personal accounts and a few wanted an EIN # and 503(c) information.   

 

I think the biggest reason for our success is because of the organization commitment.  We seem to really get the word out in our community and many would-be sponsors come to use (at the local level).   The rest of the effort comes from having a couple people focus on coordinating sponsors like what Cory and I have done in past Boise Code Camps.

 

Give me a day or so and I will send you a copy of our yearly expense sheet so you can see what our sponsors are paying for year to year.    

 

Thanks

  Scott    

 

From: BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim McKeeth
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 12:54 PM
To: boisecodecamp
Subject: SPAM-LOW: [BoiseCodeCamp] Money raising tips for Seattle

 

Who was in charge of raising money at previous Boise code camps?  Was it Scott?  I guess word got out that we did really well because Seattle wants to know our secrets.

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#1484 From: "David Starr" <david@...>
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 12:37 am
Subject: RE: Money raising tips for Seattle
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I have signed up to attend (and present) the Seattle Code Camp and would be happy to sit with organizers for a beer if they would like to discuss.

 

From: BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim McKeeth
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 12:54 PM
To: boisecodecamp
Subject: [BoiseCodeCamp] Money raising tips for Seattle

 

Who was in charge of raising money at previous Boise code camps?  Was it Scott?  I guess word got out that we did really well because Seattle wants to know our secrets.

--
-Jim McKeeth
jim@...
www.mckeeth.org


#1483 From: "Jim McKeeth" <jim@...>
Date: Wed Oct 8, 2008 6:53 pm
Subject: Money raising tips for Seattle
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Who was in charge of raising money at previous Boise code camps?  Was it Scott?  I guess word got out that we did really well because Seattle wants to know our secrets.

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-Jim McKeeth
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www.mckeeth.org

#1482 From: Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: Session Materials AWOL?
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No rush here...

--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Chris Brandsma <chris.brandsma@...> wrote:
From: Chris Brandsma <chris.brandsma@...>
Subject: Re: [BoiseCodeCamp] Session Materials AWOL?
To: BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 3:51 PM

Could be I horked it up on my last update.  I'm in Colorado right now, but I'll should be able to fix it early next week.

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

I was going to look up some details for a session I attended, but I don't see any place to download the materials from.

I thought they were available on this page http://www.boisecod ecamp.org/ files/2008/ Sessions. htm, but there isn't anything there now.

Did something happen to the presentation materials?




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http://www.ElegantC ode.com


#1481 From: "Chris Brandsma" <chris.brandsma@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:51 pm
Subject: Re: Session Materials AWOL?
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Could be I horked it up on my last update.  I'm in Colorado right now, but I'll should be able to fix it early next week.

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...> wrote:

I was going to look up some details for a session I attended, but I don't see any place to download the materials from.

I thought they were available on this page http://www.boisecodecamp.org/files/2008/Sessions.htm, but there isn't anything there now.

Did something happen to the presentation materials?




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Christopher Brandsma
http://www.ChrisBrandsma.com
http://www.ElegantCode.com

#1480 From: "David Starr" <david@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: Session Materials AWOL?
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Did we take materials down, Chris?

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...> wrote:

I was going to look up some details for a session I attended, but I don't see any place to download the materials from.

I thought they were available on this page http://www.boisecodecamp.org/files/2008/Sessions.htm, but there isn't anything there now.

Did something happen to the presentation materials?




--
David Starr
http://elegantcode.com

#1479 From: Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:43 pm
Subject: Session Materials AWOL?
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I was going to look up some details for a session I attended, but I don't see any place to download the materials from.

I thought they were available on this page http://www.boisecodecamp.org/files/2008/Sessions.htm, but there isn't anything there now.

Did something happen to the presentation materials?


#1478 From: "Martin Danner" <martin@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 5:10 pm
Subject: RE: Attendee Survey Results: New Link
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Thanks for your thoughtful analysis Rob, and thanks to those of you who provided additional feedback in response. I’ve been involved with all the code camps in Boise, and I just want to say that its very gratifying to see not only how far the Boise Code Camp has come in three short years, but also the level of interest in making it even better. You should all be very proud of what you’ve accomplished. I have no doubt that Boise Code Camp 2009 will be great!

 

Martin Danner
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Team System MVP | PMP | Author | Trainer | Consultant
Mobile (208) 283-3736 | www.accentient.com

 

From: BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Anson
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:51 AM
To: BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BoiseCodeCamp] Attendee Survey Results: New Link

 


I'm not sure if anyone else had a problem with the link, but I just
tried to get back in and was not able to. So, here is a new link to the
participant feedback.

http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI

And, some of my summary of the feedback. Most of mine is regarding the
food and facilities, but had a thought about preparation as well.

1. Consider moving the speakers dinner to a full week before the
event. Ask each presenter to provide some teaser or sample slides or
screen shots of things they will be talking about, plus an outline for
the talk, and put those up online 1 week before event. Notify everyone
registered to register for their top priority events, then produce the
actual session-room match one or two nights before the event. Does
three things.
First, gets speakers to prepare earlier, and gives you an opportunity
to walk through some minimum presentation guidelines. (Various comments
about some unprepared speakers.)
Second, gets better pre-session info to participants to allow them to
make more informed choices. (There were a number of comments about thin
or missing session descriptions.)
Third, it has the potential of providing a much more accurate seat
count because people will have comprehensive and more information about
the sessions to make their decisions and you get everyone to consider it
close to the event--when it is more relevant, and the sessions are
better nailed down.

2. Take new approach on the coffee service. The shop was not able to
make coffee fast enough to serve that many people. We also need wider
variety of drinks. I would prefer to see us put up a kiosk there to
sell coffee, drinks, pastries, etc.
If I start at it way ahead of time, it might be possible to get
permission to do it as a fundraiser by our student AITP group. It does
sound very self serving to me, and I apologize for that, but there are
practical reasons given University rules. As a student organization
fundraiser, we may be able to get around some of the stupid regulations
on food service that requires the prices to be sky high, and it makes
available resources we could make use of to pull it off. (Think the
food booths at football games--those are all fundraisers.)

3. Most important thing is to figure out a different approach to
compatibility between the installed projectors and the laptops. Need to
investigate SW or HW to overcome problems. OR It may be time to move
to a different building. The issue may be, however, that we will need
to start paying for the space.

4. I'm hearing more complaints about lunch. Either tiring of pizza or
that the pizza was not good. Perhaps it is time to change the menu. At
least add some healthier alternatives. Would some salad kill us?

5. It is time to initiate some analysis of topics and audience,
perhaps using preregistration also next time, better match session to
room size.

6. Probably nothing we could do about parking situation unless we move
to a building that is on one end or the other of campus.

7. Need to book a large special venue for the keynote.

8. Need to get facilities to keep the air conditioning on for the Camp
day--they shut it off for the weekend. The air went hot and stale on
especially the third floor.

9. I would also strongly support a BA track, and will be happy to put
myself down for a session plus work to recruit some others for it.


#1477 From: "Tony Rasa" <trasa@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 4:11 pm
Subject: RE: Attendee Survey Results
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Perhaps all of those people who want non-MS presentations should step up and register to present?  Seems like there was a solid interest in java, so where are these people when it’s time to present?   Maybe next time around those of us who work in mixed shops can apply more peer-pressure to the non-borg crowd.

 

 

 

From: BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cory Isakson
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:45 PM
To: BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BoiseCodeCamp] Attendee Survey Results

 

Interesting to note that Friday was slightly ahead of Sunday if it were a 2 day event.  Especially if it was during spring break.  60 Email address of people willing to present next time is also excellent!  Other than getting the non-Microsoft crowd more involved the results are fantastic.  I don’t know what to do about the non-Microsofties.  I guess if that is you then you need to step up and get your community involved.

 

Cory

 

From: BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Brandsma
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:52 PM
To: BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BoiseCodeCamp] Attendee Survey Results

 

I got it to work:
http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI

Seems like the Business of Software track was a winner.  Congratulations to all involved.

Some of the items we are planning on addressing (signing up for rooms, better web site all round).

The hard one is addressing all of the comments about having more non-Microsoft people.  My problem is: where are all of them?
We have a couple of companies do that, a few good php shops, some java developers, etc.  But half of our Ruby development troop came from out of state!

Maybe we should invite Arup to the meetings?



On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...> wrote:

For some reason the URL seems to fail (possibly thanks to Yahoo), even after various attempts to fix the line wrap - any chance you could put it into TinyUrl?



David Starr <david@...> wrote:

We have the results of our survey. Thank you, Rob!

Have a look, folks. Discuss :)

1. There is a clear preference for a Saturday event.
2. The open comments at the end are interesting.

http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?
SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI

 


You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.




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http://www.ElegantCode.com


#1476 From: "Jim McKeeth" <jim@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: Attendee Survey Results
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I'd like to see more diversity too, but I can also speak to the difficulty of this.  Kind of like how Jason said that if Google sponsors an event then Microsoft will back out, and vice versa.  I talked to some of the non-Microsoft technology crowd and they wouldn't present because there were no non-Microsoft sessions - e.g. it is a Microsoft event.  When I pointed out the sessions we had they were not convinced.  It is a bit of a chicken and an egg scenario. 

Perhaps we do a "stealth sneak attack" on the non-Microsoft crowd.  We make up a totally new event and call it "no-microsoft camp" or something and then get them all to sign up.  Then at the last minute announce that we have combined it with the code camp which is open to every technology anyway.  If we have a "critical mass" of sessions at that point they will hopefully not bail.

-Jim

#1475 From: "Cory Isakson" <cisakson@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:44 am
Subject: RE: Attendee Survey Results
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Interesting to note that Friday was slightly ahead of Sunday if it were a 2 day event.  Especially if it was during spring break.  60 Email address of people willing to present next time is also excellent!  Other than getting the non-Microsoft crowd more involved the results are fantastic.  I don’t know what to do about the non-Microsofties.  I guess if that is you then you need to step up and get your community involved.

 

Cory

 

From: BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Brandsma
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:52 PM
To: BoiseCodeCamp@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BoiseCodeCamp] Attendee Survey Results

 

I got it to work:
http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI

Seems like the Business of Software track was a winner.  Congratulations to all involved.

Some of the items we are planning on addressing (signing up for rooms, better web site all round).

The hard one is addressing all of the comments about having more non-Microsoft people.  My problem is: where are all of them?
We have a couple of companies do that, a few good php shops, some java developers, etc.  But half of our Ruby development troop came from out of state!

Maybe we should invite Arup to the meetings?


On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...> wrote:

For some reason the URL seems to fail (possibly thanks to Yahoo), even after various attempts to fix the line wrap - any chance you could put it into TinyUrl?



David Starr <david@...> wrote:

We have the results of our survey. Thank you, Rob!

Have a look, folks. Discuss :)

1. There is a clear preference for a Saturday event.
2. The open comments at the end are interesting.

http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?
SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI

 


You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.




--
--------------------------------
Christopher Brandsma
http://www.ChrisBrandsma.com
http://www.ElegantCode.com


#1474 From: Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:22 am
Subject: Re: Attendee Survey Results
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I'm noticing a few themes in the suggestions, such as parking, temperature, speaker preparation, drinks and AV equipment failures.

Also I noticed that several commentors would like more non-MS presentations; perhaps we could mention that in a follow-up email, and challenge the non-MS crowd to volunteer to present more sessions. Perhaps that would motivate more of them to contribute.


Chris Brandsma <chris.brandsma@...> wrote:
I got it to work:
http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI

Seems like the Business of Software track was a winner.  Congratulations to all involved.

Some of the items we are planning on addressing (signing up for rooms, better web site all round).

The hard one is addressing all of the comments about having more non-Microsoft people.  My problem is: where are all of them?
We have a couple of companies do that, a few good php shops, some java developers, etc.  But half of our Ruby development troop came from out of state!

Maybe we should invite Arup to the meetings?



On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@yahoo.com> wrote:
For some reason the URL seems to fail (possibly thanks to Yahoo), even after various attempts to fix the line wrap - any chance you could put it into TinyUrl?


David Starr <david@elegantcode.com> wrote:
We have the results of our survey. Thank you, Rob!

Have a look, folks. Discuss :)

1. There is a clear preference for a Saturday event.
2. The open comments at the end are interesting.

http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?
SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI



You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.



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Christopher Brandsma
http://www.ChrisBrandsma.com
http://www.ElegantCode.com


You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

#1473 From: "Chris Brandsma" <chris.brandsma@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: Attendee Survey Results: New Link
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I'll respond using your numbering system

1.  I've been thinking about this one as well.  There are other things we can do to help with new speakers.
    a. Require an outline 2 weeks before the Camp
    b. Require them to product a handout for attendees.
    c. All first time speakers much sign up 1 month in advance (1 month is an arbitrary date)

    but there is only so much I'm willing to do and still keep it a Code Camp event.  This will really just take a lot more discussion.

4.  I think a few options might be good.  But again, this is a free event.   Another side though: the Dinner did lack some vegetarian options (event the mashed potatoes had bacon in them).  We should try harder there next time.

5.  We are working on that one -- meaning, David and I.

6.  I have absolutely NO sympathy for anyone complaining about having to walk (with exceptions for handicapped individuals).
     Programmers are notorious for not getting exerciser (I did see lines in front of the elevator a few time).  I'm sorry, I don't care. (btw: I'm also heartless and spiteful)

9.  It almost sounded like there was need for a Business Camp -- Not a Code Camp.  That is an idea, and not a bad one, but it would require a different group of drivers.  But it is a cool validation that we were right in that there is a need for that.

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Rob Anson <ranson@...> wrote:


I'm not sure if anyone else had a problem with the link, but I just
tried to get back in and was not able to. So, here is a new link to the
participant feedback.

http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI

And, some of my summary of the feedback. Most of mine is regarding the
food and facilities, but had a thought about preparation as well.

1. Consider moving the speakers dinner to a full week before the
event. Ask each presenter to provide some teaser or sample slides or
screen shots of things they will be talking about, plus an outline for
the talk, and put those up online 1 week before event. Notify everyone
registered to register for their top priority events, then produce the
actual session-room match one or two nights before the event. Does
three things.
First, gets speakers to prepare earlier, and gives you an opportunity
to walk through some minimum presentation guidelines. (Various comments
about some unprepared speakers.)
Second, gets better pre-session info to participants to allow them to
make more informed choices. (There were a number of comments about thin
or missing session descriptions.)
Third, it has the potential of providing a much more accurate seat
count because people will have comprehensive and more information about
the sessions to make their decisions and you get everyone to consider it
close to the event--when it is more relevant, and the sessions are
better nailed down.

2. Take new approach on the coffee service. The shop was not able to
make coffee fast enough to serve that many people. We also need wider
variety of drinks. I would prefer to see us put up a kiosk there to
sell coffee, drinks, pastries, etc.
If I start at it way ahead of time, it might be possible to get
permission to do it as a fundraiser by our student AITP group. It does
sound very self serving to me, and I apologize for that, but there are
practical reasons given University rules. As a student organization
fundraiser, we may be able to get around some of the stupid regulations
on food service that requires the prices to be sky high, and it makes
available resources we could make use of to pull it off. (Think the
food booths at football games--those are all fundraisers.)

3. Most important thing is to figure out a different approach to
compatibility between the installed projectors and the laptops. Need to
investigate SW or HW to overcome problems. OR It may be time to move
to a different building. The issue may be, however, that we will need
to start paying for the space.

4. I'm hearing more complaints about lunch. Either tiring of pizza or
that the pizza was not good. Perhaps it is time to change the menu. At
least add some healthier alternatives. Would some salad kill us?

5. It is time to initiate some analysis of topics and audience,
perhaps using preregistration also next time, better match session to
room size.

6. Probably nothing we could do about parking situation unless we move
to a building that is on one end or the other of campus.

7. Need to book a large special venue for the keynote.

8. Need to get facilities to keep the air conditioning on for the Camp
day--they shut it off for the weekend. The air went hot and stale on
especially the third floor.

9. I would also strongly support a BA track, and will be happy to put
myself down for a session plus work to recruit some others for it.




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http://www.ChrisBrandsma.com
http://www.ElegantCode.com

#1472 From: "Rob Anson" <ranson@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:50 pm
Subject: Attendee Survey Results: New Link
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I'm not sure if anyone else had a problem with the link, but I just
tried to get back in and was not able to.  So, here is a new link to the
participant feedback.

http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI


And, some of my summary of the feedback.  Most of mine is regarding the
food and facilities, but had a thought about preparation as well.

1.  Consider moving the speakers dinner to a full week before the
event.  Ask each presenter to provide some teaser or sample slides or
screen shots of things they will be talking about, plus an outline for
the talk, and put those up online 1 week before event.  Notify everyone
registered to register for their top priority events, then produce the
actual session-room match one or two nights before the event.     Does
three things.
First, gets speakers to prepare earlier, and gives you an opportunity
to walk through some minimum presentation guidelines.  (Various comments
about some unprepared speakers.)
Second, gets better pre-session info to participants to allow them to
make more informed choices.  (There were a number of comments about thin
or missing session descriptions.)
Third, it has the potential of providing a much more accurate seat
count because people will have comprehensive and more information about
the sessions to make their decisions and you get everyone to consider it
close to the event--when it is more relevant, and the sessions are
better nailed down.

2. Take new approach on the coffee service.  The shop was not able to
make coffee fast enough to serve that many people.  We also need wider
variety of drinks.  I would prefer to see us put up a kiosk there to
sell coffee, drinks, pastries, etc.
     If I start at it way ahead of time, it might be possible to get
permission to do it as a fundraiser by our student AITP group.  It does
sound very self serving to me, and I apologize for that, but there are
practical reasons given University rules.  As a student organization
fundraiser, we may be able to get around some of the stupid regulations
on food service that requires the prices to be sky high, and it makes
available resources we could make use of to pull it off.  (Think the
food booths at football games--those are all fundraisers.)

3. Most important thing is to figure out a different approach to
compatibility between the installed projectors and the laptops.  Need to
investigate SW or HW to overcome problems.  OR  It may be time to move
to a different building.  The issue may be, however, that we will need
to start paying for the space.

4. I'm hearing more complaints about lunch.  Either tiring of pizza or
that the pizza was not good.  Perhaps it is time to change the menu.  At
least add some healthier alternatives.  Would some salad kill us?

5.  It is time to initiate some analysis of topics and audience,
perhaps using preregistration also next time, better match session to
room size.

6. Probably nothing we could do about parking situation unless we move
to a building that is on one end or the other of campus.

7. Need to book a large special venue for the keynote.

8.  Need to get facilities to keep the air conditioning on for the Camp
day--they shut it off for the weekend.  The air went hot and stale on
especially the third floor.

9. I would also strongly support a BA track, and will be happy to put
myself down for a session plus work to recruit some others for it.

#1471 From: "Chris Brandsma" <chris.brandsma@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Attendee Survey Results
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Oh, having it on saturday was never a question for me.  I was trying to gauge when the best second day would be.

Sorry, that wasn't very clear in my first message.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Jim McKeeth <jim@...> wrote:

On 4/7/08, Chris Brandsma <chris.brandsma@...> wrote:
Also, it looked liked a lot of people were for Friday instead of Sunday.

144 preferred Saturday
29 preferred Friday

I weighted the numbers with a 5 for Preferred, 2 for Could and -2 for Could not:

Thursday 5
Friday 221
Saturday 790
Sunday 180

So Saturday is by far the favorite.





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#1470 From: "Jim McKeeth" <jim@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:36 am
Subject: Re: Attendee Survey Results
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On 4/7/08, Chris Brandsma <chris.brandsma@...> wrote:
Also, it looked liked a lot of people were for Friday instead of Sunday.

144 preferred Saturday
29 preferred Friday

I weighted the numbers with a 5 for Preferred, 2 for Could and -2 for Could not:

Thursday 5
Friday 221
Saturday 790
Sunday 180

So Saturday is by far the favorite.



#1469 From: "Jim McKeeth" <jim@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:29 am
Subject: Re: Attendee Survey Results
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What were the actual numbers at the after event party?  In the survey we have 73 who attended, but I thought there were more then that.  Dinner party was almost a 50/50 split for next year though.  I know as a presenter I love having a chance to unwind and network though.

We need to collect some of those free text feedback for advertising next year.  The negative comments I saw seemed to be isolated incidents, or more a reflection of the complainer.  Good feedback overall.

#1468 From: "Chris Brandsma" <chris.brandsma@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:20 am
Subject: Re: Attendee Survey Results
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Also, it looked liked a lot of people were for Friday instead of Sunday.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Chris Brandsma <chris.brandsma@...> wrote:
I got it to work:Seems like the Business of Software track was a winner.  Congratulations to all involved.

Some of the items we are planning on addressing (signing up for rooms, better web site all round).

The hard one is addressing all of the comments about having more non-Microsoft people.  My problem is: where are all of them?
We have a couple of companies do that, a few good php shops, some java developers, etc.  But half of our Ruby development troop came from out of state!

Maybe we should invite Arup to the meetings?




On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...> wrote:

For some reason the URL seems to fail (possibly thanks to Yahoo), even after various attempts to fix the line wrap - any chance you could put it into TinyUrl?



David Starr <david@...> wrote:
We have the results of our survey. Thank you, Rob!

Have a look, folks. Discuss :)

1. There is a clear preference for a Saturday event.
2. The open comments at the end are interesting.

http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?
SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI



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#1467 From: "Chris Brandsma" <chris.brandsma@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:52 am
Subject: Re: Attendee Survey Results
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I got it to work:
http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI

Seems like the Business of Software track was a winner.  Congratulations to all involved.

Some of the items we are planning on addressing (signing up for rooms, better web site all round).

The hard one is addressing all of the comments about having more non-Microsoft people.  My problem is: where are all of them?
We have a couple of companies do that, a few good php shops, some java developers, etc.  But half of our Ruby development troop came from out of state!

Maybe we should invite Arup to the meetings?



On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...> wrote:

For some reason the URL seems to fail (possibly thanks to Yahoo), even after various attempts to fix the line wrap - any chance you could put it into TinyUrl?



David Starr <david@...> wrote:
We have the results of our survey. Thank you, Rob!

Have a look, folks. Discuss :)

1. There is a clear preference for a Saturday event.
2. The open comments at the end are interesting.

http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?
SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI



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#1466 From: Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:42 am
Subject: Re: Attendee Survey Results
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For some reason the URL seems to fail (possibly thanks to Yahoo), even after various attempts to fix the line wrap - any chance you could put it into TinyUrl?

David Starr <david@...> wrote:
We have the results of our survey. Thank you, Rob!

Have a look, folks. Discuss :)

1. There is a clear preference for a Saturday event.
2. The open comments at the end are interesting.

http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?
SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI



You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

#1465 From: "David Starr" <david@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:13 am
Subject: Attendee Survey Results
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We have the results of our survey. Thank you, Rob!

Have a look, folks. Discuss :)

1. There is a clear preference for a Saturday event.
2. The open comments at the end are interesting.

http://boisestate.qualtrics.com/CP/Report.php?
SV=Prod&RP=RP_bHLenw2qEeqdxqI

#1464 From: "Jim McKeeth" <jim@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2008 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: 2009 Code Camp Organizing Committee
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Excellent

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#1463 From: "Chris Brandsma" <chris.brandsma@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2008 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: 2009 Code Camp Organizing Committee
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One of the larger reasons for this is to finish documenting the process.

Dave and Elly started the documentation process this year, keeping track of everything.
Next year I want to have the web site stabilized and more self-maintaining.

So, after next year, the hope is that we can just hand over a set of documents and a time-line to almost anyone and say "go".

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:14 AM, <yahoo@...> wrote:

Other groups I've been a part of have used a 2 year term, but half of
the group was rotated out every year. That way there is always half of
the leadership in place when the changing of the guard occurs. This
keeps the continuity and lets the new people get acclimated while the
veterans are still there to mentor.

Of course as good programmers we all know the documentation is just as
important as the code itself... ;-)

Jeremy



Jim McKeeth wrote:
>
> Did you guys vote yourselves a raise too? <j/k>
>
> I all seroiusness, why mess with success?
>
> I would suggest maybe taking apprentices so you all don't end up being
> the only ones capable of doing your jobs so well. Either that or take
> really good notes for year after next. Then you can share you process
> and organizational notes with other code camps.
>
> Just an idea.
>
> On 3/27/08, David Starr <david@...
> <mailto:david%40elegantcode.com>> wrote:
> > After discussions with the core planning team, it has been generally
> agreed
> > that there is huge value in providing continuity moving into 2009.
> In fact,
> > the group has proposed the following:
> >
> > > Core organizing team members sign on for a 2 year commitment of their
> > > position in the Code Camp organizing team in order to provide a
> continuity
> > > between events.
> > >
>
> .
>
>




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Date: Tue Apr 1, 2008 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: 2009 Code Camp Organizing Committee
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Other groups I've been a part of have used a 2 year term, but half of
the group was rotated out every year.  That way there is always half of
the leadership in place when the changing of the guard occurs.  This
keeps the continuity and lets the new people get acclimated while the
veterans are still there to mentor.

Of course as good programmers we all know the documentation is just as
important as the code itself... ;-)

Jeremy

Jim McKeeth wrote:
>
> Did you guys vote yourselves a raise too? <j/k>
>
> I all seroiusness, why mess with success?
>
> I would suggest maybe taking apprentices so you all don't end up being
> the only ones capable of doing your jobs so well. Either that or take
> really good notes for year after next. Then you can share you process
> and organizational notes with other code camps.
>
> Just an idea.
>
> On 3/27/08, David Starr <david@...
> <mailto:david%40elegantcode.com>> wrote:
> > After discussions with the core planning team, it has been generally
> agreed
> > that there is huge value in providing continuity moving into 2009.
> In fact,
> > the group has proposed the following:
> >
> > > Core organizing team members sign on for a 2 year commitment of their
> > > position in the Code Camp organizing team in order to provide a
> continuity
> > > between events.
> > >
>
> .
>
>

#1461 From: "Jim McKeeth" <jim@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2008 1:44 am
Subject: Re: 2009 Code Camp Organizing Committee
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Did you guys vote yourselves a raise too?  <j/k>

I all seroiusness, why mess with success?

I would suggest maybe taking apprentices so you all don't end up being
the only ones capable of doing your jobs so well.  Either that or take
really good notes for year after next.  Then you can share you process
and organizational notes with other code camps.

Just an idea.

On 3/27/08, David Starr <david@...> wrote:
> After discussions with the core planning team, it has been generally agreed
> that there is huge value in providing continuity moving into 2009. In fact,
> the group has proposed the following:
>
> > Core organizing team members sign on for a 2 year commitment of their
> > position in the Code Camp organizing team in order to provide a continuity
> > between events.
> >
> This offers the advantages of retaining core competencies in the team and in
> being able to optimize the work for the second year based on learning from
> the first event.
>
> Further, this is a team of decision makers that has run very well by
> consensus. In recognition of that fact, the three core members of the Code
> Camp organizing committee will each be designated as Director for their
> particular areas of responsibility.
>
> With that in mind, I am happy to announce that the core organizers for the
> 2008 event have agreed to one more year of duty. The 2009 Code Camp
> directors are:
>
> 2009 Boise Code Camp Directors
>
>    1. David Starr - Logistics and Marketing
>       1. David will focus primarily on event coordination, logistics,
>       facilities, and making sure that there is coffee.
>       2. David needs to catch all the little things that would
>       otherwise get lost.
>       3. Also, T-shirts
>       4. And marketing. Advertising to the community, spams to
>       participants, press releases, etc.
>       5. And food
>    2. Chris Brandsma - Speakers and Website
>       1. Guidance and support to the website, which has great plans to
>       move platforms for next year
>       2. Managing speaker communication and ensuring speakers have
>       what they need for the event.
>       3. Managing the speaker schedule
>    3. Scott Nichols - Sponsorships and finance
>       1. Sponsorship coordination
>       2. Budget management (he's our CFO)
>       3. Swag master
>
> Other key contributors in the organizing effort include Eleanor Starr, Jim
> Gasaway, Rob Anson, Rich Hundhausen, Cory Isackson, Martin Danner, and Jarod
> Ferguson. We sure hope you guys are sticking with us for the next round :)
>
> Thanks to all.
>
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#1460 From: "Craig Berntson" <craigbern@...>
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:16 pm
Subject: RE: Utah Code Camp April 26
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We’re still a month away. More sessions are coming.

 

 

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I'd think about it if they had some exciting sessions, but they still only have 5-6 sessions listed.

Cory Isakson <cisakson@...> wrote:

Spring 2008 April 26th 2008 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.

 

 

Anyone planning to make the drive?

 

Cory

 

 


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#1459 From: "Chris Brandsma" <chris.brandsma@...>
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:51 am
Subject: Re: Code Camp Album
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OK, I added the picasa link to the web site.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...> wrote:

I prefer the Picasa version - loads faster and more intuitive.

Thanks for putting it together!



David Starr <david@...> wrote:
I think I look awesome in both, but the Google one is easier for me to use. And faster.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Chris Brandsma <chris.brandsma@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I'm trying out different online photo albums.  Please tell me what you think of these:

http://picasaweb.google.com/chris.brandsma/BoiseCodeCamp2008

http://boisecodecamp.photoshop.com

I would setup a flickr version, but that will have to wait until later.

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#1458 From: Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...>
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:27 am
Subject: Re: Utah Code Camp April 26
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I'd think about it if they had some exciting sessions, but they still only have 5-6 sessions listed.

Cory Isakson <cisakson@...> wrote:
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Anyone planning to make the drive?
 
Cory


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#1457 From: Rand y B uchner <actualrandy@...>
Date: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:13 am
Subject: Re: Code Camp Album
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I prefer the Picasa version - loads faster and more intuitive.

Thanks for putting it together!

David Starr <david@...> wrote:
I think I look awesome in both, but the Google one is easier for me to use. And faster.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Chris Brandsma <chris.brandsma@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

I'm trying out different online photo albums.  Please tell me what you think of these:

http://picasaweb.google.com/chris.brandsma/BoiseCodeCamp2008

http://boisecodecamp.photoshop.com

I would setup a flickr version, but that will have to wait until later.

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