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Re: ~BAI > Use of axes

Stiof MacAmhalghaidh wrote:
> Stuart,
>
> <SNIP>
>
> Was this oak from the bog? If so it was probably like cutting iron. I've
> re-ordered the book from the library so I should have hold of it again
> before
> the end of April. In the meantime, can you say how it was cut - in
> terms of the
> angle of the cuts. I'm assuming it was used for a bog trackway, so
> there was no
> need to trim the log ends and it should reveal a lot about how the
> tree was
> felled. If it was an oak, it should have been about 50-60 years old
> when felled,
> going by the diameter, so it was still relatively young. Were there
> any logs
> larger than this? I can't see that larger logs would have been of much use
> unless used for a dugout or for a pretty huge piece of construction,
> and I don't
> remember either being mentioned in the report.
>
> Stiof

Stiof,

It was actually lying beside a trackway, not an integral part of it.
There was a hollowed out log utilised as a /Fulacht fiadh /trough. It
had been heavily truncated by a Bord na Mona drain-cutter to the extent
that the hollowed-out bit was not as evident as it might have been, and
when we got someone who knows about these things to look at it, he said
it was not likely to be a canoe because he felt it did not have adequate
capacity for buoyancy. But guess what? We got two or three days of heavy
rain in October, and the darn thing was floating about in the cutting.
The water was too deep to attempt to get in and paddle about, and it may
have sunk with a persons weight, but for a couple of days it tantalised
us with its canoe-like ability. I have a photo of it if you're
interested? Not floating though, sadly.

Back to the big log, yes it was bog oak (or at least it had become bog
oak) and it was like slicing Iron! If I recall, the reason for slicing
the end off was to recover the tool marks for later analysis, and also
to get an age and date from it. I don't recall the angle of the cuts,
but then I think it may have been trimmed once felled.

I'll email the Director I worked for at the time and see if he has any
better memory than I do, which I'm sure he does as I have Alzheimer's I
think. Or do I? I forget. Never mind.

Stuart

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Stuart D. Elder, MIAI
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Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:05 am

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People, There's been some discussion on the Britarch group about the uses to which flint and copper axes might have been put. It is a subject as much...
Stiof MacAmhalghaidh
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Mar 1, 2006
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I'm of the opinion that good old fashioned experimental work can't be a bad thing. James Mathieu published some work on this in a BAR volume in 2002, and I...
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Mar 1, 2006
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Barry, ... Yep, I've seen this, and also read similar discussions and spoken with people who've experimented with stone axes of varying types. [snip] ... True,...
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I'm sorry to come back to this if no one wants to talk about it and I have been waiting for someone else to point this out, but as I would like to know the...
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Mar 13, 2006
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Kevin, ... Don't be sorry. This sort of activity is what the group is here for, after all. ... Well, the original issue was really about the purpose to which...
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Stiof, As far as I'm aware, most BA charcoal tends to be Oak or Ash. Stuart ==================== Stuart D. Elder, MIAI Licensed Archaeologist ...
Stuart D. Elder, MIAI
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... Good. That was what I thought and expected. They're the only native species that are really abundant islandwide and burn well enough (hot and slow without ...
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Mar 16, 2006
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I'm not sure if it mentions it or not, but check the recent publication on the Lisheen Mine Archaeological Project 1996-8, available from Wordwell...
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Stuart, ... Damn. I got hold of a copy from the local library recently, but I was looking for something totally different. It'll ake me weeks to get hold of it...
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Stiof, Silly me. When I said 'exotic' I meant 'not used very often for construction purposes etc'. As for the cutting across the grain, I do recall one huge...
Stuart D. Elder, MIAI
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Stuart, ... Thought so... A nerdy point, but worth making (spot the tree nerd!) as there is a terrible lack of awareness even amongst 'environmentalists' here...
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... Stiof, It was actually lying beside a trackway, not an integral part of it. There was a hollowed out log utilised as a /Fulacht fiadh /trough. It had been...
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Stuart, ... No indication of its intended pupose at all? ... Don't you just love it when that happens? 8-) ... Sure, that'd be interesting. ... He gets me back...
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