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RE: ~BAI > Use of axes

Stuart,

> It was actually lying beside a trackway, not an integral part of it.

No indication of its intended pupose at all?

> There was a hollowed out log utilised as a /Fulacht fiadh /trough. It
> had been heavily truncated by a Bord na Mona drain-cutter to the extent
> that the hollowed-out bit was not as evident as it might have been, and
> when we got someone who knows about these things to look at it, he said
> it was not likely to be a canoe because he felt it did not have adequate
> capacity for buoyancy. But guess what? We got two or three days of heavy
> rain in October, and the darn thing was floating about in the cutting.

Don't you just love it when that happens? 8-)

> The water was too deep to attempt to get in and paddle about, and it may
> have sunk with a persons weight, but for a couple of days it tantalised
> us with its canoe-like ability. I have a photo of it if you're
> interested? Not floating though, sadly.

Sure, that'd be interesting.

> Back to the big log, yes it was bog oak (or at least it had become bog
> oak)

He gets me back for my 'exotic' comment... 8-)

> and it was like slicing Iron!

From my limited experience with carving bog oak, that sounds about right

If I recall, the reason for slicing
> the end off was to recover the tool marks for later analysis, and also
> to get an age and date from it. I don't recall the angle of the cuts,
> but then I think it may have been trimmed once felled.

I had wondered about that. Might it have been intended, perhaps, to be used as a
trough also? Were the logs at all similar in size?

> I'll email the Director I worked for at the time and see if he has any
> better memory than I do, which I'm sure he does as I have Alzheimer's I
> think. Or do I? I forget. Never mind.

That'd be useful. Meanwhile, if anyone has access to a copy of the Lisheen
report itself, it'd be a help if they could take a peek. I'm kicking myself I
didn't plough through the whole thing when I had a copy here, but I was mainly
searching it for information on settlement evidence and datings...

Stiof
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People, There's been some discussion on the Britarch group about the uses to which flint and copper axes might have been put. It is a subject as much...
Stiof MacAmhalghaidh
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Mar 1, 2006
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I'm of the opinion that good old fashioned experimental work can't be a bad thing. James Mathieu published some work on this in a BAR volume in 2002, and I...
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Barry, ... Yep, I've seen this, and also read similar discussions and spoken with people who've experimented with stone axes of varying types. [snip] ... True,...
Stiof MacAmhalghaidh
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I'm sorry to come back to this if no one wants to talk about it and I have been waiting for someone else to point this out, but as I would like to know the...
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Mar 13, 2006
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Kevin, ... Don't be sorry. This sort of activity is what the group is here for, after all. ... Well, the original issue was really about the purpose to which...
Stiof MacAmhalghaidh
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Mar 13, 2006
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Stiof, As far as I'm aware, most BA charcoal tends to be Oak or Ash. Stuart ==================== Stuart D. Elder, MIAI Licensed Archaeologist ...
Stuart D. Elder, MIAI
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... Good. That was what I thought and expected. They're the only native species that are really abundant islandwide and burn well enough (hot and slow without ...
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Mar 16, 2006
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I'm not sure if it mentions it or not, but check the recent publication on the Lisheen Mine Archaeological Project 1996-8, available from Wordwell...
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Stuart, ... Damn. I got hold of a copy from the local library recently, but I was looking for something totally different. It'll ake me weeks to get hold of it...
Stiof MacAmhalghaidh
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Stiof, Silly me. When I said 'exotic' I meant 'not used very often for construction purposes etc'. As for the cutting across the grain, I do recall one huge...
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Stuart, ... Thought so... A nerdy point, but worth making (spot the tree nerd!) as there is a terrible lack of awareness even amongst 'environmentalists' here...
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... Stiof, It was actually lying beside a trackway, not an integral part of it. There was a hollowed out log utilised as a /Fulacht fiadh /trough. It had been...
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Stuart, ... No indication of its intended pupose at all? ... Don't you just love it when that happens? 8-) ... Sure, that'd be interesting. ... He gets me back...
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