Uh-oh! It's an invasion from the Stellarvue forum. ;) I'll be doing a
side-by-side comparison with an AT1010 soon. I wasn't in the market
for another refractor, but this was too good a deal to pass up.
Sounds like it's going to be a well built scope.

Craig Simmons
Falls Church, VA
www.novac.com


>
> Looks like Bill has created a real buzz with this $199 deal.
>
> I ordered my 102 yesterday... hesitated all last week... thought
I'd
> better pull the lever.
>
> I'll be comparing it to my Stellarvue 80/9D (750mm fl)... I'll make
> sure I let everyone know how that goes. We'll be hearing about
> the prototypes before then.
>
> Don

Music and Astronomy seem to go together. Both have their gear
(G.A.S.) addictions. I'm a Strat and Tele guy myself. I'm not
familiar with the Gibsons that much, but it sounds like a real nice
vintage axe. I'm looking at getting another mount also. Something
more stable than a CG-3. I'm also a Dob owner (XT10).

Craig Simmons
Falls Church, VA
www.novac.com


--- In BurgessRefractors@yahoogroups.com, "gibson57guy
<gibson57guy@h...>" <gibson57guy@h...> wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
>    I found out about this group on the astromart equipment forum..
I
> have one on order too....  ordered it about 2 weeks ago.
>
>    I will be also ordering the new go to mount Bill has been
working
> on...
>
>    I currently have an 8 inch dob which in itself is very portable
as
> I have it on a wagon to tote around my backyard with... but was
> looking for something to do astrophotography with... especially
with
> the mount...
>
>   I would be very interested to hear the reviews..
>
>
>   To Bill:  Say hi to your wife for me... I don't know if I should
> offer any condolences or what.... as you both will be very very
busy
> for the next while... heh heh.
>
>   By the way just so you know.....I own a 1957 Gibson Guitar thus
> "57gibsonguy"
>
>
>  By for now
>
> Mark Vissr

--- In BurgessRefractors@yahoogroups.com, "gibson57guy
<gibson57guy@h...>" <gibson57guy@h...> wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>    snip
>   By the way just so you know.....I own a 1957 Gibson Guitar
thus
> "57gibsonguy"
>
>  By for now
>
> Mark Vissr
____________________________

Looks like Bill has created a real buzz with this $199 deal.

I ordered my 102 yesterday... hesitated all last week... thought I'd
better pull the lever.

I'll be comparing it to my Stellarvue 80/9D (750mm fl)... I'll make
sure I let everyone know how that goes. We'll be hearing about
the prototypes before then.

Don

- PS - Mark... is that Gibson a hollow body (of course, it must
be)... my Brother had a beautiful Gibson hollow body back in the
sixties... he cries every time he thinks of the day he sold it.

Hello Everyone,

    I found out about this group on the astromart equipment forum.. I
have one on order too....  ordered it about 2 weeks ago.

    I will be also ordering the new go to mount Bill has been working
on...

    I currently have an 8 inch dob which in itself is very portable as
I have it on a wagon to tote around my backyard with... but was
looking for something to do astrophotography with... especially with
the mount...

   I would be very interested to hear the reviews..


   To Bill:  Say hi to your wife for me... I don't know if I should
offer any condolences or what.... as you both will be very very busy
for the next while... heh heh.

   By the way just so you know.....I own a 1957 Gibson Guitar thus
"57gibsonguy"


  By for now

Mark Vissr

Hi all, I just ordered my Burgess 102 yesterday from Anacortes, it
was a bargain I couldn't pass up. I bought a Burgess 15x70 bino from
Bill about a year ago and I am very happy with it, it too was a major
bargain at $100. Bill is a nice guy and was very helpful before and
after my purchase. IMHO the 100 introductory 102's will go fast but
even at the post introductory price of $289 it still seems to be
priced way below other scopes of simular quality and size. Thanks for
this site, I look forward to hearing reports about the prototype, Tim

Just ordered one and have been looking for more info on it.  I'll
wait for you guys to review the prototype.  So far I like what I see.

Found out about this group from David Holt on Astromart.

Thanks!

Welcome to the group Anish. I suspect they're being made in
Knoxville, Tennesee, where Burgess Optical is located.

www.burgessoptical.com

Craig Simmons
Falls Church, VA
www.novac.com


--- In BurgessRefractors@yahoogroups.com, "anish_mal
<anish_mal@y...>" <anish_mal@y...> wrote:
> hi all,
>
> I saw the postings in astromart and decided to join the group. I
> might soon become the next in the line for the new scope.
>
> I guess the scopes are still being manufactured, hence the wait
> involved. Just curious, where are they being made?
>
> thanks and regards,
>
> anish

hi all,

I saw the postings in astromart and decided to join the group. I
might soon become the next in the line for the new scope.

I guess the scopes are still being manufactured, hence the wait
involved. Just curious, where are they being made?

thanks and regards,

anish

Also in the Equipment Forum on Astromart as well.

Craig Simmons
Falls Church, VA
www.novac.com

--- In BurgessRefractors@yahoogroups.com, David Holt <dave_holt@y...>
wrote:
> Craig,
> There seems to be some discussion on the Michigan
> Astronomy Yahoo group also.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/michigan_astronomy/
> I think Bill will have orders for the first 100 very
> soon. :^)
> DAve
> www.surmount.com/oac
>
> --- "ccsxt10 <ccsxt10@y...>" <ccsxt10@y...>
> wrote:
> > I was wondering when the 1026 deal was going to make
> > an appearance
> > there. We'll probably see an increase in membership
> > here soon. :)
> >
> > Craig Simmons
> > Falls Church, VA
> > www.novac.com
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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Craig,
There seems to be some discussion on the Michigan
Astronomy Yahoo group also.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/michigan_astronomy/
I think Bill will have orders for the first 100 very
soon. :^)
DAve
www.surmount.com/oac

--- "ccsxt10 <ccsxt10@...>" <ccsxt10@...>
wrote:
> I was wondering when the 1026 deal was going to make
> an appearance
> there. We'll probably see an increase in membership
> here soon. :)
>
> Craig Simmons
> Falls Church, VA
> www.novac.com
>
>


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I was wondering when the 1026 deal was going to make an appearance
there. We'll probably see an increase in membership here soon. :)

Craig Simmons
Falls Church, VA
www.novac.com

Check it out!

http://www.astromart.com/viewad.asp?cid=173208

  For Sale: Burgess Optical 102mm f/6 Achromatic Refractor OTA Only
$199
Placed by Anacortes Telescope(http://www.BuyTelescopes.com) on
2/11/2003 (Expires 2/21/2003)
  9973 Padilla Heights Road
  Anacortes, WA 98221 United States
  Phone: 800-850-2001
  Email: herb@...
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102mm f/6 Achromatic Refractor OTA Only. Pictured with tripod and
GEM 1 mount, not included. 102mm OTA, 2" diagonal with brass locking
rings and 7x50mm finderscope with bracket included.

This is the first in a series of Burgess's fine achro refractors. If
you have been looking for a high quality Achro for a reasonable
price your search is over!

Note: Special Pricing for first 100 units only! Deposit of $100
required to reserve one of the first 100 units.

Features:

Fully machined and baffled dew shield - over 100 baffles in the dew
shield alone!

Dew shield screws on to the lens cell

The lens cells are 2 piece and have push-pull collimation

Lens cells screw into the machined aluminum tubes

The aluminum tubes are fully knife-edge baffled

The focusers screw into the tubes and feature brass locking rings on
the 2" and 1.25" adapter

Burgess focusers provide the most accurate focus available on a
production refractor with 40:1 fine focus reduction on either the
left or right hand side

Burgess 2" diagonals feature brass locking rings

2 screw collimation of the diagonal mirror

Bright 7x50mm Finderscope

Includes tube rings

Length of OTA is 24"

Outside diameter is 4"

Weight is 8.75 lbs



ATWB
800-850-2001

Bill,
What a generous offer.  Please send it to my office so
I don't have to worry about it being left in my yard.
Mark lives two miles from me so we will "kick the
tires" together.  I will see that we get the scope to
Craig by March 8th for his club events.
Thanks Again for your support of the group.
DAve

  (address sent privatley)

P.S. My Borg 76ED tested 1/7.8 wave front, these
optics sould be very, very good.

--- burgoptics@... wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
>             I thought that since the group is so
> small I would provide one of
> the prototypes for you to play with. Dave you will
> be first E-mail me
> privately your address
> and I will send you the OTA. Keep it for a few days
> and then send it to the
> next member. Be careful with it but do not worry
> about damage I am finished
> testing it.
>           BTW over the weekend we pulled the glass
> and it is awesome 1/8 wave
> front
> slightly undercorrected.
>
>
> Bill Burgess
>


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Fantastic!    Since I'm in the market for a good first scope, I would
love to see this "baby" before making a purchasing decision.  Of
course, If it is as good as it sounds, (and I'm sure it is from what
I've read about Burgess Optics on the net)  we may all be ruined for
other brands.  Dave, please phone or e-mail me when the stork
delivers the "bundle of joy".

If customer service remains this good, I'm sure the group won't stay
small for long.

MEB

--- In BurgessRefractors@yahoogroups.com, burgoptics@a... wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
>             I thought that since the group is so small I would
provide one of
> the prototypes for you to play with. Dave you will be first E-mail
me
> privately your address
> and I will send you the OTA. Keep it for a few days and then send
it to the
> next member. Be careful with it but do not worry about damage I am
finished
> testing it.
>           BTW over the weekend we pulled the glass and it is
awesome 1/8 wave
> front
> slightly undercorrected.
>
>
> Bill Burgess

What a generous offer. I'd love to get look through it. I can hardly
wait for my turn. :) I'd like to show it off at my club's monthly
observing or public sessions. What size is the tube diameter on the
1026? If it needs more shipping protection, I have plenty of extra 1"
foam to wrap around it.

Craig Simmons
Falls Church, VA
www.novac.com

--- In BurgessRefractors@yahoogroups.com, burgoptics@a... wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
>             I thought that since the group is so small I would
provide one of
> the prototypes for you to play with. Dave you will be first E-mail
me
> privately your address
> and I will send you the OTA. Keep it for a few days and then send
it to the
> next member. Be careful with it but do not worry about damage I am
finished
> testing it.
>           BTW over the weekend we pulled the glass and it is
awesome 1/8 wave
> front
> slightly undercorrected.
>
>
> Bill Burgess

Hi Guys

             I thought that since the group is so small I would provide one of
the prototypes for you to play with. Dave you will be first E-mail me
privately your address
and I will send you the OTA. Keep it for a few days and then send it to the
next member. Be careful with it but do not worry about damage I am finished
testing it.
           BTW over the weekend we pulled the glass and it is awesome 1/8 wave
front
slightly undercorrected.


Bill Burgess

Craig,
The Orion 15164 or 15146 should work.  I like a hard
case for my scopes.
DAve

http://www.telescope.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=406&itemType=PRO\
DUCT&iProductID=406

--- "ccsxt10 <ccsxt10@...>" <ccsxt10@...>
wrote:
> Will there be a padded scope bag for the 1026?
>
> Craig Simmons
> Falls Church, VA
> www.novac.com
>
>


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Will there be a padded scope bag for the 1026?

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Falls Church, VA
www.novac.com

Hi Patrick,
Glad to see another future 1026 owner join the list. I see your
weight question has been answered pretty quick. My other main scopes
are an Orion XT10 (Guang Sheng model) and a Stellarvue AT1010. I'm
looking forward to the extra aperture and portability of the 1026.
It's always nice to have an extra scope to share for private and
public stargazing.

Craig Simmons
Falls Church, VA
www.novac.com


--- In BurgessRefractors@yahoogroups.com, "PC" <orionsglory@s...>
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>     I found out about this group from Mr. Burgess when I got myself
on the
> list for a 102mm Refractor.  I currently have a 4 1/2" Newtonion
and a 10"
> LX200.  Where I live the 10" is not feasible to set up and is a
pain to lug
> out to a site for a short session and the 4 1/2" is great for some
quick
> peeks.  But I think this refractor will make a nice addition to my
arsenal.
>     BTW, I'm right next to New Haven, CT & I95 & RT1, so there is
real bad
> light pollution here.
>
> Also, I forgot to ask, Is there an estimated or known weight on the
OTA?
>
> Thanks,
>         Clear skies,
>
>             Patrick

>
> Also, I forgot to ask, Is there an estimated or known weight on the
OTA?
>
> Thanks,
>         Clear skies,
>
>
            Patrick

Patrick

         The OTA will weight just under 9 lbs with diagonal
and rings.


Bill

Patrick,
Welcome to The BurgessRefractors group.  Craig and I
also have a 1026 on order, we are looking forward to
using our new Acros.

I have a Ultima 2k and it also sits in it's case
because of the Metro Detroit Skies and the set up
time.  I find that my Borg 76ED is used the most often
for quick looks and I hope the 1026 will get used as
often.

Don't forget to look at Comet NEAT the next couple of
nights,wonderful auwsome in my 12x63s last night just
north of PI Aqu.

What do you plan to mount the 1026 on?  How long have
you been observing?  Craig and I are very involved in
our clubs and community education programs. Do you
belong to a local club?  Where did you find out about
the 1026?

Bill has been great with his email answers and support
of this group.  It looks like he is putting together a
product of great quality for us.

Again Welcome and Good Viewing,
DAve


--- PC <orionsglory@...> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>     I found out about this group from Mr. Burgess
> when I got myself on the
> list for a 102mm Refractor.  I currently have a 4
> 1/2" Newtonion and a 10"
> LX200.  Where I live the 10" is not feasible to set
> up and is a pain to lug
> out to a site for a short session and the 4 1/2" is
> great for some quick
> peeks.  But I think this refractor will make a nice
> addition to my arsenal.
>     BTW, I'm right next to New Haven, CT & I95 &
> RT1, so there is real bad
> light pollution here.
>
> Also, I forgot to ask, Is there an estimated or
> known weight on the OTA?
>
> Thanks,
>         Clear skies,
>
>             Patrick
>
>


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Hello everyone,
     I found out about this group from Mr. Burgess when I got myself on the
list for a 102mm Refractor.  I currently have a 4 1/2" Newtonion and a 10"
LX200.  Where I live the 10" is not feasible to set up and is a pain to lug
out to a site for a short session and the 4 1/2" is great for some quick
peeks.  But I think this refractor will make a nice addition to my arsenal.
     BTW, I'm right next to New Haven, CT & I95 & RT1, so there is real bad
light pollution here.

Also, I forgot to ask, Is there an estimated or known weight on the OTA?

Thanks,
         Clear skies,

             Patrick

Hi Craig

        In a Telescope objective there is a power element, this element is
very important
in the control of secondary color as well as most other aberrations. When you
use a
four element design you can have two power element and each has to be only
half as strong. The results are quite striking when you view thru a four
element design of the same F ratio as a two element objective.  Incredibly
flat fields with pinpoint images out to the very edge, even in fast F ratios.
        I hope this helps.


Bill Burgess

Welcome Craig and Mark,

I plan to mount mine on a CG-4 or CG-5 that I already
own.  The CG-5 is from a CR150 f/8 and has Oak legs,
I'm sure it will be rock solid.  The CG-4 is from my
Orion Starmax 127, I often use it over 200x and I
expect it to be fine with a wide field scope like the
1026.

Thanks for joining the group.  I've have sent a Q&A to
Bill that may answer many of your questions.  He will
post it soon I'm sure.

Its Snowing Here In Michigan (again)
DAve


--- "ccsxt10 <ccsxt10@...>" <ccsxt10@...>
wrote:
> Hi Mark, I was told by Anacortes that it would be
> March before
> they'd be ready to ship. The intro price offer is
> still going on
> according the Burgess Optical and Anacortes
> websites. I was
> wondering about a mount also. I've got a CG-3 but
> it's probably
> right at it's limit with a 4 inch refractor
>
> Craig Simmons
> Falls Church, VA
>
> --- In BurgessRefractors@yahoogroups.com, "Mark
> Bredow
> <mbredow@y...>" <mbredow@y...> wrote:
> > First, I would like to thank Dave Holt for
> bringing this group to
> my
> > attention.  I have been purusing the Celestron,
> Meade, Discovery,
> > Orion, and I'm ashamed to admit, Ebay sites for my
> first
> > telescope.I'm considering a wide view Orion
> Astroview 120mm Short
> > tube refractor. But,  I'm currently examining the
> Michigan skys
> with
> > 10x50 Minolta binocs.
> >
> > Bill, I've reviewed your site, and Dave indicates
> the 1026 would
> be a
> > good first scope.  Would you have any more
> detailed specs?  What
> > mount would you recommend?  How long between
> deposit payment and
> > delivery? Any and all information would be
> appreciated. ( You can
> e-
> > mail me here or directly)
> >
> > Are there still 1026 scopes available at the
> discounted price?
>
>


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Hi Mark, I was told by Anacortes that it would be March before
they'd be ready to ship. The intro price offer is still going on
according the Burgess Optical and Anacortes websites. I was
wondering about a mount also. I've got a CG-3 but it's probably
right at it's limit with a 4 inch refractor

Craig Simmons
Falls Church, VA

--- In BurgessRefractors@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Bredow
<mbredow@y...>" <mbredow@y...> wrote:
> First, I would like to thank Dave Holt for bringing this group to
my
> attention.  I have been purusing the Celestron, Meade, Discovery,
> Orion, and I'm ashamed to admit, Ebay sites for my first
> telescope.I'm considering a wide view Orion Astroview 120mm Short
> tube refractor. But,  I'm currently examining the Michigan skys
with
> 10x50 Minolta binocs.
>
> Bill, I've reviewed your site, and Dave indicates the 1026 would
be a
> good first scope.  Would you have any more detailed specs?  What
> mount would you recommend?  How long between deposit payment and
> delivery? Any and all information would be appreciated. ( You can
e-
> mail me here or directly)
>
> Are there still 1026 scopes available at the discounted price?

First, I would like to thank Dave Holt for bringing this group to my
attention.  I have been purusing the Celestron, Meade, Discovery,
Orion, and I'm ashamed to admit, Ebay sites for my first
telescope.I'm considering a wide view Orion Astroview 120mm Short
tube refractor. But,  I'm currently examining the Michigan skys with
10x50 Minolta binocs.

Bill, I've reviewed your site, and Dave indicates the 1026 would be a
good first scope.  Would you have any more detailed specs?  What
mount would you recommend?  How long between deposit payment and
delivery? Any and all information would be appreciated. ( You can e-
mail me here or directly)

Are there still 1026 scopes available at the discounted price?

Uh-oh! I think I hear the sound of a future hole in my wallet
beginning to opening up. ;) That's quite a line-up of refractors.
Being somewhat of an optical dummy, I have to ask, what does a quad
lens do optically?

Craig Simmons
Falls Church, VA




--- In BurgessRefractors@yahoogroups.com, burgoptics@a... wrote:
> Hi Craig
>
>      I personally did not start this group, but I will support it
with
> product information
> and first looks at new products.  The 1026 is just the first in new
line of
> Burgess
> refractors. We will have 127 mm,153 mm, Quad lens 102mm, Quad 125mm
and a
> line of APOs. I will introduce them here for the group.
>     BTW you will enjoy your 102 F6.  I have (2) prototypes here at
the shop
> and will be sending them to members of the group so they can help
me with
> their evaluation and suggest future products.
>
> Thank You
> Bill Burgess

Hi Craig

      I personally did not start this group, but I will support it with
product information
and first looks at new products.  The 1026 is just the first in new line of
Burgess
refractors. We will have 127 mm,153 mm, Quad lens 102mm, Quad 125mm and a
line of APOs. I will introduce them here for the group.
     BTW you will enjoy your 102 F6.  I have (2) prototypes here at the shop
and will be sending them to members of the group so they can help me with
their evaluation and suggest future products.

Thank You
Bill Burgess

Hi! I just ordered the 102mm f/6 yesterday from Anacortes and then
found the Burgess Optical website. A few minutes ago I found this
discussion group. I know nothing about the Burgess Optical telescopes
and I'm looking forward to receiving mine next month sometime. A 4
inch achromat w/ 2" diagonal and rings for $200 is too good a deal to
turn down even if there's a little wait involved. Will the
owner/builder of these scope be participating in this forum?

Craig Simmons
Falls Church, VA


--- In BurgessRefractors@yahoogroups.com, "dave_holt
<dave_holt@y...>" <dave_holt@y...> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Welcome to the Burgess Refractor Group!
>
> After many emails with Bill Burgess, I placed my order for a new
> 102mm f6 Acro with him on January 30th, 2003
>
> Bill was great to communicate with and answered all my questions.
I
> hope to post some of the answers after I get Bill's approval to do
> so.
>
> I created this group so we could exchange ideas, modifications,
> accessories, observations, and any thing else that may help enhance
> our enjoyment of our Burgess Refractors.
>
> Please feel free to invite others to join us.
>
> Clear Skies,
> DAve

Hi All,

Welcome to the Burgess Refractor Group!

After many emails with Bill Burgess, I placed my order for a new
102mm f6 Acro with him on January 30th, 2003

Bill was great to communicate with and answered all my questions.  I
hope to post some of the answers after I get Bill's approval to do
so.

I created this group so we could exchange ideas, modifications,
accessories, observations, and any thing else that may help enhance
our enjoyment of our Burgess Refractors.

Please feel free to invite others to join us.

Clear Skies,
DAve