Very interesting and useful!  I gave it a quick look and will probably have more
coherent comments later, probably regarding UI and additional functionality. 
For instance it would be good for the user to be able to compare various
schools.

Slightly OT: I was surprised at the big differences between schools in various
categories.  For example, we're supposed to be living in a "melting pot" but
take a look at the difference in ethnic demographics between Kalani and Waianae
High School.

I know it's not a final, but I'd give it a high grade.  Keep us apprised of
updates.

Doug

--- In Bytemarks@yahoogroups.com, evan leong <evanleong@...> wrote:
>
> We just launched our latest project which we started in Dec 2007 and I'm
> asking for your feedback.  www.hawaiischoolguide.com  Please take a look if
> you can spare some time.  Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Aloha,
> Evan Leong
>

On Sep 1, 2009, at 17:17 , Scott Poarch wrote:

> Search finds "Hoala", but not the correct "Ho'ala".

Ahh... but what character did you use for the `? Did you use an
apostrophe? An okina is not an apostrophe. That's the big challenge
with Hawaiian language diacriticals on the web.

A big challenge for any database too.  Unless you had some kind of intermediary
process that would strip out all diacriticals and would search on a
like-stripped version of the properly represented Hawaiian word.  In other
words, one would enter "Ho'ala" or "Ho`ala" and the process would convert it to
"hoala" and match that with the word "hoala" presented as "Ho`ala".

For my own utility databases, I enter and search on the terms without any
diacritical marks.  But I feel bad about that because it perpetuates an
incorrect form.

Doug

P.S. I have a friend who insists that Aiea is properly, `A`i`e`a.

--- In Bytemarks@yahoogroups.com, Paul Lawler <plawler@...> wrote:
>
> On Sep 1, 2009, at 17:17 , Scott Poarch wrote:
>
> > Search finds "Hoala", but not the correct "Ho'ala".
>
> Ahh... but what character did you use for the `? Did you use an
> apostrophe? An okina is not an apostrophe. That's the big challenge
> with Hawaiian language diacriticals on the web.
>

We usually add a hidden field to the database that lists alternate
spellings for search purposes. It adds production work but it serves
the users, and then you can include common mis-spellings too. It is a
relatively easy workaround, all things considered.

Aloha,

Rox

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:27 AM, evan leong<evanleong@...> wrote:
>
>
> That's the issue that we're dealing with currently.  The ` okina messes up
> the search results currently.  We are working on a solution.
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Paul Lawler <plawler@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 17:17 , Scott Poarch wrote:
>>
>> > Search finds "Hoala", but not the correct "Ho'ala".
>>
>> Ahh... but what character did you use for the `? Did you use an
>> apostrophe? An okina is not an apostrophe. That's the big challenge
>> with Hawaiian language diacriticals on the web.
>
>
>
> --
> Aloha,
> Evan Leong
>
>



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congrats Evan, I know you and Kari put many hours into this project.

evan leong wrote:
> We just launched our latest project which we started in Dec 2007 and I'm
> asking for your feedback.  www.hawaiischoolguide.com  Please take a look
> if
> you can spare some time.  Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Aloha,
> Evan Leong
>

Aloha,
We are entering into the fall season and the days are getting shorter.
This month let's head over to Cellular Bioengineering and share some
tech geekery. CBI has some very cool technology which they will share
with us.

Bring your lunch and your tech stories as we make house in their
conference room. CBI will provide the drinks. Here's the details:

Where: Cellular Bioengineering, Inc.
1946 Young Street
Honolulu, Hawaii

When: Sept. 25, 2009
Time: 11:30 - 1:00pm

RSVP: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/4418658/

Please RSVP so I can get the names to CBI for parking

Hope to see you there.

Burt

Imagine this: You have to deliver a PowerPoint presentation about an
unfamiliar topic, with slides you've never seen, to an audience eager to
heckle and laugh at you. If you're in your underwear, you're having a
nightmare. If you're clothed, it's called PowerPoint Karaoke.

I will record presentations and post them to Youtube.  The best
presentations will be entered into a contest where the winner will win
$5,000.  More information can be found on the website below.

http://www.powerpointkaraoke2009.com/

I am organizing an event on October 17th at 3:00 p.m. at ING Direct
Cafe.  1958 Kalakaua Ave., Honolulu, HI 96815

Link to the location on Google map:  http://bit.ly/eInkV

I am also giving away a Wireless Projection Link to one of our presenters.

http://www.imation.com/en/Imation-Products/Wireless-Projection-Link/

Here is the Twtvite for the event:  http://www.twtvite.com/ozn3h0

If you are not on Twitter, you can e-mail me at kyle@... to
reserve a spot.

Aloha

If you were one of the esteemed and select few planning on attending
tonight's presentation on NTOP, then you are in luck.  Rather than
being a part of only one software
presentation/demonstration/participation event, you will now have the
opportunity of learning not only what is important about NTOP next
month, but also what is so special and great and empowering about
Joomla.  To be clear, the "social media" phenomenon is nothing more
than the fruit of the sharing and open tree rooted in Free and Open
Source Software.  You will want to learn about Joomla and Drupal the
next two months if you wish to enjoy the benefits of easily adding
content to your domain without giving all the metrics and value to
third-party 'social networks.'

NTOP - How Does it Look and What is it Doing (abbreviated bonus
edition) Where is everything?  What is it doing?  Why is some stuff
slow, some stuff fast, and why is that guy in the lobby smiling with
his wireless laptop?  Maybe it's time that you had a look around your
local area network to see what is really going on.  It actually comes
with pretty graphs and charts.
November 17, 2009

Making My Web With Joomla
You've crawled around in other webs like those spun with AOL,
Facebook, and even Twitter.  Now you are all grown up, and you are
ready to create your own web presence that is free from rules or
policies and guaranteed to be standards compliant and portable.  Guess
what?  You can do it, it can be pretty, and people will still be your
friend and follow you.
November 17, 2009

Making My Web With Drupal
Shazaam.  Geemoninny.  Wow.  You want this, and you want more.  For
people to call you the master of the universe, or at least master of
their universe, join us for a look at Drupal.  You can do it, with a
module.
December 22, 2009

PFOSSCON/TPOSSCON/{your_valued_acronym}
The dates are set, and the venue at UH is reserved for our annual
event that took a nap in 2009.  Save the dates, January 15-17.  We'll
be at the Marine Science auditoriums and courtyards on the 16th for a
day of talking, training, planning, and sharing.  The emphasis is on
education.  The evening of the 15th will be about dining and imbibing,
and the 17th will be a time for breakfast and departing for Australia
to attend linux.conf.au  If you have topics you want addressed, things
you want to learn, or guests you want to see, then now is the time to
make your wishes known.

--scott

This unscheduled cancellation is brought to you by the legally
undisclosed but nearly fatal side effects from Septra, aka Bactrim, an
anti-biotic that should only be prescribed with lots of caution and
forewarning.  Be aware.

Anyone know of a good one?  Here's the hard part: must convert handwriting to
text, and create a searchable doc.

Doug

On Nov 12, 2009, at 12:12 , hdoug50 wrote:

> Anyone know of a good one?  Here's the hard part: must convert
> handwriting to text, and create a searchable doc.


Evernote does that (kinda sorta)

Aloha

Here it is.  Tonight.  Joomla, and more, for you, at UH.  It's our
regularly scheduled, and second-to-last, Open Source Presentation for
2009.  We're gettin' down to the gravy.

For those of you who know it all, already, you can secretly follow
along at home.  The tools for the night will be a BitNami produced
Joomla VM, http://bitnami.org/stack/joomla, and the 'free' VMWare
player.  Weather permitting, the bouncing ball will likely be a live
Joomla deployment via Dreamhost.  Perhaps we'll fiddle with the
defeatallincumbents.xxx domains.

To be clear, Joomla is a CMS - a Content Management System.  It is
this framework that allows multiple collaborators to have select roles
in providing content to a domain *without* hosing the whole website.
It is this concept that creates the foundation to the multitudes of
hosted web2.0 sites.

Time: 6:30 to 8:30
Date: November 17, 2009
Location: Marine Sciences Auditorium, The University of Hawaii

For directions, go to
http://www.hawaii.edu/campusmap/
and click on Marine Science [E]


Making My Web With Joomla
You've crawled around in other webs like those spun with AOL,
Facebook, and even Twitter.  Now you are all grown up, and you are
ready to create your own web presence that is free from rules or
policies and guaranteed to be standards compliant and portable.  Guess
what?  You can do it, it can be pretty, and people will still be your
friend and follow you.
November 17, 2009

Making My Web With Drupal
Shazaam.  Geemoninny.  Wow.  You want this, and you want more.  For
people to call you the master of the universe, or at least master of
their universe, join us for a look at Drupal.  You can do it, with a module.
December 22, 2009

PFOSSCON/TPOSSCON/{your_valued_acronym}
The dates are set, and the venue at UH is reserved for our annual
event that took a nap in 2009.  Save the dates, January 15-17.  We'll
be at the Marine Science auditoriums and courtyards on the 16th for a
day of talking, training, planning, and sharing.  The emphasis is on
education.  The evening of the 15th will be about dining and imbibing,
and the 17th will be a time for breakfast and departing for Australia
to attend linux.conf.au  If you have topics you want addressed, things
you want to learn, or guests you want to see, then now is the time to
make your wishes known.

--scott

Bonus

Since last month we missed NTOP, I'll show it to anyone interested at
the conclusion of tonight's event.

NTOP - How Does it Look and What is it Doing (abbreviated bonus edition)
Where is everything?  What is it doing?  Why is some stuff slow, some
stuff fast, and why is that guy in the lobby smiling with his wireless
laptop?  Maybe it's time that you had a look around your local area
network to see what is really going on.  It actually comes with pretty
graphs and charts.
November 17, 2009

All

I will be doing my 3rd Annual 24hr Podcast Charity event starting at 7am
HST on December 12th. Local residents that want to participate should
send me a private email and let me know what three best times work for
you and what topic you would like to talk about. The topics I like to
cover during the 24hr Podcast is Technology, New Media, Social Networking.

This year I am doing a little twist. We will have the 5th Annual Podcast
Awards Ceremony midway through the event. I am also installing a 2
Channel Skypesarus to handle mainland participants so that I can patch
them into a video channel on my Tricaster.

I have yet to pick a charity for the event and will be doing so over the
next few days..

Todd...