Mike Weber, I am sorry I came on so strong late last night. I do realize this is not your fault. It is just, some times I get very frustrated with this...
Ted, Believe me, the Commissioners hear and weigh these arguments together with the views of other people, available science, and laws such as the MLMA. Mike...
Mr. Weber and Commissioners: I want to echo Ted Wheeler's statements in his plea for an explanation for the management failure to halt the serial depletion and...
Mike, what was the rationale behind adjusting the cabezon allocation before adjusting the OY? If the new OY is done, why isn't it put in as an interim measure?...
Bob, My responses are in CAPITALS. Mike In a message dated 3/1/2002 11:18:51 AM, osbo082@... writes: << Mike, what was the rationale behind adjusting...
Ok, I'll ask MY three and a half questions. 1. Does the Commission see evidence the nearshore fishery was fully utilized, or nearly so, prior to 1990? 2....
If the answer to my question, "...was it appropriate to allow the existing recreational fishery to be displaced by a new commercial fishery to any degree?" is...
I found this on the www.californiafish.org/fgcommnrfishstmt.html. site Of particular relevance to the previous cabezon discussion is the section on cabezon...
Michael
enolamms@...
Mar 3, 2002 5:56 am
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Ted: Nobody "lost" the southern abalone resource. We (sport and commercial divers, south of San Francisco) only lost access to red abalone, because of false...
ABSforMAN@...
Mar 3, 2002 4:08 pm
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Bob, Ted, et al. There is a lot more going on in the marine environment than claims of overfishing: marine mammals (sea lions, harbor seals and sea otters) ,...
ABSforMAN@...
Mar 3, 2002 4:19 pm
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Steve R. You seem very upset about the issues in your last post. I, for one, do not have solution for what to do with Big Oil, non-point source pollution,...
Steve: Thank you for your response--debate is good. My gripe is that the closure of abalone was based on: 1) No proper data. 2) Former State Senator Mike...
ABSforMAN@...
Mar 4, 2002 12:23 am
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Steve Rebuck said, "There is a lot more going on in the marine environment than claims of overfishing..." Steve, not to belabor the point but I understand your...
Bob: points well taken. And, the debate, if by knowledgeable individuals, is very good. By joining forces, rather than the continued sniping, commercial ...
ABSforMAN@...
Mar 5, 2002 4:07 pm
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Attention commercial fishermen. Here is an example of the tactic, not so cleverly reveled by Steve Benevides. For months during 1997, Benevides, Rocky Daniels,...
ABSforMAN@...
Mar 5, 2002 9:08 pm
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Yahoo groups was undergoing maintenance yesterday, so I was unable to post this review of the decisions regarding cabezon. A review of the materials presented...
... commercial ... because of ... (CEN-CAL) ... the ... FYI, I did in fact read much of the literature you recommended. You and I simply draw different...
Pretty slippery Mike, even fooled you. The Catch 22 nature of unsophisticated brands of OY management really comes into focus here. You can't advocate...
... (CEN-CAL) ... In all modesty, we had a ton of help from other sources: scientists, politicians, southern California dive clubs and dive councils, charter...
Steve Rebuck, You have publicly accused me of being greedy and selfish. Do you think this is right? I am proud to say that I am one of the group of concerned...
My comments are interspersed where appropriate as follows: ... Thanks for taking the time to look into this issue. ... So far so good, however another...
Michael
enolamms@...
Mar 6, 2002 8:49 am
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I have been trying to post the following message regarding cabezon for the last 24 hours with no success. Here is another attempt. Mike Weber =========== A...
What would happen if the Dept. of Forestry signed off on a Timber Harvest Plan that allowed a selective cut near the boundaries of a public park in Mendocino...
Absolutely Steve and Bob. Finger pointing only serves to polarize the users, it serves no useful purpose. Cleaning up the nearshore is obviously our...
Mike, I will make sure the Marine Subcommittee is aware of your views. I am on travel today. I will respond to some of your observations later. Mike Weber In a...
Mike Malone, please bracket either your comments or the person you are replying to, ok buddy? I really had to work at figuring out where your comments began...
Mike Weber, you have stated that your summary of the December 2000 meeting was incorrect. I was at that meeting and your summary is NOT incorrect. I heard it...
Mike Weber wrote, ... Mike, while you're at it, you might also mention there are about 800 fishermen and divers who hold the same views and who are waiting for...
Cabezon Regulations In simple terms. The department made the prediction that the recreational fishery would not reach its allocation share. This led directly...
Yesterday, Bob Treanor confirmed that the Department had presented a series of recommendatins on cabezon, sheepehead, and greenling. On the Department's ...
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