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That's a common problem with the CG5.

You can only lower the mount so far and then it hits on the adjustment screw.

The solution is that you have to remove the plastic housing.

I know it shouldn't be that way, but that it is.

Another trick is to tilt the tripod forward just enough so it won't fall over.

Terry

--- On Wed, 5/9/12, nikkimortillaro <nmortillaro@...> wrote:

From: nikkimortillaro <nmortillaro@...>
Subject: [CG5] Polar scope hell: The sequel
To: CG5@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 9:42 AM

Right. So I fixed my polar scope issue (the blurriness). It was indeed the grease that was causing the problem. So now I'm on to step two: aligning it with my mount. THIS has proven, well, frustrating beyond belief.

Firstly, I am going to get thumbscrews for the bloody screws. It's near impossible to do it -- I find -- with the existing ones.

However, here's my dilemma (and I can't find this anywhere else, which leads me to believe I'm doing something wrong): When I take her outside in the day and try to aim at something, I find that the housing for the drive (it's a GT) gets in the way when I try to adjust it to what I'm looking at. It's gotten so frustrating.

Also, at one point I had it close: rotated it right and was pretty close. Went to rotate left and "clink!" the reticle was loose!

Any tips? I'm just about ready to give up.

nm

#1955

From: chris@...
Date: Wed May 9, 2012 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: Polar scope hell: The sequel

chris_yesyes

>> Another trick is to tilt the tripod forward just enough so it won't fall over.

that's what I did. I extended the rear legs further than the front leg so that the polar scope was almost horizontal. Also, for the purpose of aligning the polar scope, I completely removed / unscrewed the front latitude adjustment bolt.

Chris

On 2012-05-09 14:51, Terry Houchins wrote:

That's a common problem with the CG5.

You can only lower the mount so far and then it hits on the adjustment screw.

The solution is that you have to remove the plastic housing.

I know it shouldn't be that way, but that it is.

Another trick is to tilt the tripod forward just enough so it won't fall over.

Terry

--- On Wed, 5/9/12, nikkimortillaro wrote:

From: nikkimortillaro
Subject: [CG5] Polar scope hell: The sequel
To: CG5@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 9:42 AM

Right. So I fixed my polar scope issue (the blurriness). It was indeed the grease that was causing the problem. So now I'm on to step two: aligning it with my mount. THIS has proven, well, frustrating beyond belief.

Firstly, I am going to get thumbscrews for the bloody screws. It's near impossible to do it -- I find -- with the existing ones.

However, here's my dilemma (and I can't find this anywhere else, which leads me to believe I'm doing something wrong): When I take her outside in the day and try to aim at something, I find that the housing for the drive (it's a GT) gets in the way when I try to adjust it to what I'm looking at. It's gotten so frustrating.

Also, at one point I had it close: rotated it right and was pretty close. Went to rotate left and "clink!" the reticle was loose!

Any tips? I'm just about ready to give up.

nm

#1956

From: "john brueggemann" <brueggej@...>
Date: Wed May 9, 2012 4:47 pm
Subject: RE: Polar scope hell: The sequel

jbrueggemann...

I tipped mine over… but be very careful… Did I mention to be careful?

From: CG5@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CG5@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terry Houchins
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:52 AM
To: CG5@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CG5] Polar scope hell: The sequel

That's a common problem with the CG5.

You can only lower the mount so far and then it hits on the adjustment screw.

The solution is that you have to remove the plastic housing.

I know it shouldn't be that way, but that it is.

Another trick is to tilt the tripod forward just enough so it won't fall over.

Terry

--- On Wed, 5/9/12, nikkimortillaro <nmortillaro@...> wrote:

From: nikkimortillaro <nmortillaro@...>
Subject: [CG5] Polar scope hell: The sequel
To: CG5@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 9:42 AM

Right. So I fixed my polar scope issue (the blurriness). It was indeed the grease that was causing the problem. So now I'm on to step two: aligning it with my mount. THIS has proven, well, frustrating beyond belief.

Firstly, I am going to get thumbscrews for the bloody screws. It's near impossible to do it -- I find -- with the existing ones.

However, here's my dilemma (and I can't find this anywhere else, which leads me to believe I'm doing something wrong): When I take her outside in the day and try to aim at something, I find that the housing for the drive (it's a GT) gets in the way when I try to adjust it to what I'm looking at. It's gotten so frustrating.

Also, at one point I had it close: rotated it right and was pretty close. Went to rotate left and "clink!" the reticle was loose!

Any tips? I'm just about ready to give up.

nm

#1957

From: Neil Heacock <neil@...>
Date: Thu May 10, 2012 1:16 am
Subject: Re: Polar scope hell: The sequel

luko_x

http://andysshotglass.com/PolarAlignmentScope.html

Hello Nikki,

This procedure is a frustrating one, there's no question. When it comes to adjusting the reticle, be sure to always keep all screws tight or the reticle will slip as you rotate. To move the reticle, slightly loosen one and tighten the others so it's always being held in place by all three screws.

The problem folks have reported with using thumb screws is that they are more prone to come loose then the grub screws. I've heard some people putting a drop of "locktite" on the threads once they get the reticle aligned.

I'm sure you've seen this, but here is the best reticle alignment instructions I've seen:

Oh, and as was mentioned, if you do the dot on the wall thing, then your scope will be leaning forward so you'll want to secure the back legs somehow like a couple of dumbell weights or sandbag or something to ensure it won't fall forward. Be sure to take the counterweight (and counterweight shaft) and scope off of the mount while you do this. You don't need all of that stuff on it while you align the reticle to the RA axis.

One last thing, if you do it in the house the way Andy did, I found using white board with a black dot to align it works good. Then use a red marker to make an X where the halfway point between where it started and where it ended is, so you know visually where you are supposed to go with the reticle. A second person working the white board can help with this as you direct them where to put the red X while looking through the reticle.

Good luck!

-Neil

On May 9, 2012, at 7:42 AM, nikkimortillaro wrote:

Right. So I fixed my polar scope issue (the blurriness). It was indeed the grease that was causing the problem. So now I'm on to step two: aligning it with my mount. THIS has proven, well, frustrating beyond belief.

Firstly, I am going to get thumbscrews for the bloody screws. It's near impossible to do it -- I find -- with the existing ones.

However, here's my dilemma (and I can't find this anywhere else, which leads me to believe I'm doing something wrong): When I take her outside in the day and try to aim at something, I find that the housing for the drive (it's a GT) gets in the way when I try to adjust it to what I'm looking at. It's gotten so frustrating.

Also, at one point I had it close: rotated it right and was pretty close. Went to rotate left and "clink!" the reticle was loose!

Any tips? I'm just about ready to give up.

nm

#1958

From: Nicole Mortillaro <nmortillaro@...>
Date: Thu May 10, 2012 4:22 am
Subject: Re: Polar scope hell: The sequel

nikkimortillaro

Thank you to all! It has driven me mad... I feel so frustrated and always say that I'm going to give up. But I won't let the bloody thing beat me down! I think I'm going to try the dot on the wall thing this weekend (and I will be very careful it doesn't fall! ;-) ). And obviously the reticle moved so much because I'd gone too far in one adjustment.

Wish me luck!

nm

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Neil Heacock <neil@...> wrote:

�

Hello Nikki,

This procedure is a frustrating one, there's no question. When it comes to adjusting the reticle, be sure to always keep all screws tight or the reticle will slip as you rotate. To move the reticle, slightly loosen one and tighten the others so it's always being held in place by all three screws.

The problem folks have reported with using thumb screws is that they are more prone to come loose then the grub screws. I've heard some people putting a drop of "locktite" on the threads once they get the reticle aligned.�

I'm sure you've seen this, but here is the best reticle alignment instructions I've seen:
http://andysshotglass.com/PolarAlignmentScope.html

Oh, and as was mentioned, if you do the dot on the wall thing, then your scope will be leaning forward so you'll want to secure the back legs somehow like a couple of dumbell weights or sandbag or something to ensure it won't fall forward. Be sure to take the counterweight (and counterweight shaft) and scope off of the mount while you do this. You don't need all of that stuff on it while you align the reticle to the RA axis.

One last thing, if you do it in the house the way Andy did, I found using white board with a black dot to align it works good. Then use a red marker to make an X where the halfway point between where it started and where it ended is, so you know visually where you are supposed to go with the reticle. A second person working the white board can help with this as you direct them where to put the red X while looking through the reticle.

Good luck!

-Neil

On May 9, 2012, at 7:42 AM, nikkimortillaro wrote:

Right. So I fixed my polar scope issue (the blurriness). It was indeed the grease that was causing the problem. So now I'm on to step two: aligning it with my mount. THIS has proven, well, frustrating beyond belief.

Firstly, I am going to get thumbscrews for the bloody screws. It's near impossible to do it -- I find -- with the existing ones.

However, here's my dilemma (and I can't find this anywhere else, which leads me to believe I'm doing something wrong): When I take her outside in the day and try to aim at something, I find that the housing for the drive (it's a GT) gets in the way when I try to adjust it to what I'm looking at. It's gotten so frustrating.�

Also, at one point I had it close: rotated it right and was pretty close. Went to rotate left and "clink!" the reticle was loose!�

Any tips? I'm just about ready to give up.

nm

#1959

From: "Miguel" <aznar@...>
Date: Fri May 11, 2012 5:37 pm
Subject: Re: Polar scope hell: The sequel

m1099j15p

Don`t loose your time. I have my mount in a permanent observatory, and I used a
program named: AlingnMaster. It easy to use and you can test it for free, and
buy if you like. I have permanent observatory and used it for ajustement at the
begin. Now the stellar object,  normally, in the gotos apear in the field of a
camera canon, i would say ..... allways.

Certainly I moded my mount with teflon washers and new bearing (axial/radial )
in DEC an replaced the one AR axis added a new one, but It is not necesary to
goods gotos.

Miguel


--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, Nicole Mortillaro <nmortillaro@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you to all! It has driven me mad... I feel so frustrated and always
> say that I'm going to give up. But I won't let the bloody thing beat me
> down! I think I'm going to try the dot on the wall thing this weekend (and
> I will be very careful it doesn't fall! ;-) ). And obviously the reticle
> moved so much because I'd gone too far in one adjustment.
>
> Wish me luck!
>
> nm
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Neil Heacock <neil@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hello Nikki,
> >
> > This procedure is a frustrating one, there's no question. When it comes to
> > adjusting the reticle, be sure to always keep all screws tight or the
> > reticle will slip as you rotate. To move the reticle, slightly loosen one
> > and tighten the others so it's always being held in place by all three
> > screws.
> >
> > The problem folks have reported with using thumb screws is that they are
> > more prone to come loose then the grub screws. I've heard some people
> > putting a drop of "locktite" on the threads once they get the reticle
> > aligned.
> >
> > I'm sure you've seen this, but here is the best reticle alignment
> > instructions I've seen:
> > http://andysshotglass.com/PolarAlignmentScope.html
> >
> > Oh, and as was mentioned, if you do the dot on the wall thing, then your
> > scope will be leaning forward so you'll want to secure the back legs
> > somehow like a couple of dumbell weights or sandbag or something to ensure
> > it won't fall forward. Be sure to take the counterweight (and counterweight
> > shaft) and scope off of the mount while you do this. You don't need all of
> > that stuff on it while you align the reticle to the RA axis.
> >
> > One last thing, if you do it in the house the way Andy did, I found using
> > white board with a black dot to align it works good. Then use a red marker
> > to make an X where the halfway point between where it started and where it
> > ended is, so you know visually where you are supposed to go with the
> > reticle. A second person working the white board can help with this as you
> > direct them where to put the red X while looking through the reticle.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > -Neil
> >
> >
> > On May 9, 2012, at 7:42 AM, nikkimortillaro wrote:
> >
> > Right. So I fixed my polar scope issue (the blurriness). It was indeed the
> > grease that was causing the problem. So now I'm on to step two: aligning it
> > with my mount. THIS has proven, well, frustrating beyond belief.
> >
> > Firstly, I am going to get thumbscrews for the bloody screws. It's near
> > impossible to do it -- I find -- with the existing ones.
> >
> > However, here's my dilemma (and I can't find this anywhere else, which
> > leads me to believe I'm doing something wrong): When I take her outside in
> > the day and try to aim at something, I find that the housing for the drive
> > (it's a GT) gets in the way when I try to adjust it to what I'm looking at.
> > It's gotten so frustrating.
> >
> > Also, at one point I had it close: rotated it right and was pretty close.
> > Went to rotate left and "clink!" the reticle was loose!
> >
> > Any tips? I'm just about ready to give up.
> >
> > nm
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

#1960

From: "John Hilliard" <jhilliard4@...>
Date: Sun May 20, 2012 12:13 am
Subject: Question on CG-5 GT Firmware

mesier27

We are currently using a Nexstar N8SE and I was curious as both mounts have the same hand control, but presumably different firmware...do you need to do some type of backlash settings with the scope. There is also a setting in the Nexstars for the final approach in a GOTO and this affects which buttons are pressed for final centering.

Hopefully none of this makes any sense and the CG5-GT does not require it.

I am guessing there may be some type of PEC but that is another story.

Have not dealt with EQ mounts in a long time and just trying to remember things before I jump in.

Thank-you,

John & Bobbie Hilliard

"Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus"

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#1961

From: "jim.m887" <jim.m887@...>
Date: Tue May 22, 2012 2:32 am
Subject: Re: Question on CG-5 GT Firmware

jim.m887

I have the CG-5 GT, and purchased a new hand controller last year.  It is
supposedly specific to the GEM and has a label near the connector that says
"GEM-E".  Bottom line, while they look the same, likely to be some internal
differences.

There are backlash settings and they are fairly easy to adjust, at least well
enough for visual work.

Final approach can be changed, but usually should not be.  Use Up and Right
buttons for final centering.

There is no PEC on the CG-5 that I know of.

Good luck,
Jim

--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "John Hilliard" <jhilliard4@...> wrote:
>
> We are currently using a Nexstar N8SE and I was curious as both mounts have
the same hand control, but presumably different firmware...do you need to do
some type of backlash settings with the scope.  There is also a setting in the
Nexstars for the final approach in a GOTO and this affects which buttons are
pressed for final centering.
>
> Hopefully none of this makes any sense and the CG5-GT does not require it.
>
> I am guessing there may be some type of PEC but that is another story.
>
> Have not dealt with EQ mounts in a long time and just trying to remember
things before I jump in.
>
> Thank-you,
>
> John & Bobbie Hilliard
>
> "Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus"
>

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#1962

From: "Postle" <postle@...>
Date: Tue May 22, 2012 7:41 am
Subject: Re: Question on CG-5 GT Firmware

sergeant_e7

GEM stands for German Equartorial Mount (GEM).  The Series 4 and the Plus Hand
Control (Series 5) can be programed for either a GEM or an Alt/Az mount.  The
Series 5 or plus Hand Control come under two different model numbers. And... 
Then label as to what firmware they are pre-load for.

If you purchased your Hand Control as I did last year, it is a Series 4.  As of
19 February 2012 there is a new Hand Control.  Series 5 or as published the PLUS
Hand Control.

Postle

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "jim.m887" <jim.m887@...> wrote:
>
> I have the CG-5 GT, and purchased a new hand controller last year.  It is
supposedly specific to the GEM and has a label near the connector that says
"GEM-E".  Bottom line, while they look the same, likely to be some internal
differences.
>
> There are backlash settings and they are fairly easy to adjust, at least well
enough for visual work.
>
> Final approach can be changed, but usually should not be.  Use Up and Right
buttons for final centering.
>
> There is no PEC on the CG-5 that I know of.
>
> Good luck,
> Jim
>
> --- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "John Hilliard" <jhilliard4@> wrote:
> >
> > We are currently using a Nexstar N8SE and I was curious as both mounts have
the same hand control, but presumably different firmware...do you need to do
some type of backlash settings with the scope.  There is also a setting in the
Nexstars for the final approach in a GOTO and this affects which buttons are
pressed for final centering.
> >
> > Hopefully none of this makes any sense and the CG5-GT does not require it.
> >
> > I am guessing there may be some type of PEC but that is another story.
> >
> > Have not dealt with EQ mounts in a long time and just trying to remember
things before I jump in.
> >
> > Thank-you,
> >
> > John & Bobbie Hilliard
> >
> > "Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus"
> >
>

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#1963

From: Dick Martin <deepskyguy95@...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:40 am
Subject: Brand new CG5

deepskyguy95

I got my new mount and I have not even had it out under the stars yet. I set it up in my den got it working. Packed it away for a new moon and waiting for me cable from Canada for my StarGPS to fit my Next Star. Now it just quit working??!! When I boot up it says "verifing packages. ........please wait." Then it comes back with "No response 17 Invalid model cycle power or press back to continue (some features will not work properly." and I can't get it to alighn.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Dick Martin

#1964

From: "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:59 am
Subject: Re: Brand new CG5

rtlrp12

Dick,
  First let me verify that you have the new Hand Controller +. The New HC has the
logo under the display that says "NexStar+" and the lowwer LH button on the
controller keypad has the Celestron logo on it. If this is the case then we can
continue. No mater what problems you ever have with your mount, the very first
thing you need to check is the power supply and the power cord. Make sure, if
using a battery to power your mount, that the battery has a full and proper
charge and that the power cable is plugged in and making good contact. Now, the
'No Responce 17' means the HC is not able to communicate with the MC board. You
may try to press the 'Back' button repeatedly and see if this clears the code.
If this does not work then you need to check to make sure that the DEC cable is
properly connected at both ends and that the HC is also plugged in firmly and
completely. Do you have the cables to do an update on the hand controller? If so
try updating the HC and see if this fixes the problem. When doing an update on
the Hand Controller + you need to use the new 'Celestron Firmware Manager'(CFM)
program. Not the older HC and MC update programs previously use to update the
older style hand controllers. At this point if nothing has worked, and being
that this is a new mount under warranty, you need to contact Celestron for a
replacement or advice.

Stan

--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, Dick Martin <deepskyguy95@...> wrote:
>
> I got my new mount and I have not even had it out under the stars yet.� I set
it up in my den got it working.� Packed it away for a new moon and waiting for
me cable from Canada for my StarGPS to fit my Next Star.� Now it just quit
working??!!� When I boot up it says "verifing packages.� ........please wait."�
Then it comes back with "No response 17 Invalid model cycle power or press back
to continue (some features will not work properly."� and I can't get it to
alighn.
> �
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> �
> Dick Martin
>

#1965

From: Dick Martin <deepskyguy95@...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Brand new CG5

deepskyguy95

Stan

Many thanks for the prompt reply. Yes, I have the new Hand Controller +. The 1st thing I did was check the connections and instead of using my Celeston Power Tank 17 I plugged it into my car battery. I did 1st time overlook the DEC cable which I later checked thanks to you. Still no luck. I have a serial cable I got from OPT to connect my laptop to use with my planetarium The Sky 6, however I can't seem to make this work either. But the 'scope was working initially. I have down loaded the CFM program but I can’t seen to find any instruction on how to use it.

Dick

From: RTLRP12 <stanschlieper@...>
To: CG5@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:59 AM
Subject: [CG5] Re: Brand new CG5

Dick,
First let me verify that you have the new Hand Controller +. The New HC has the logo under the display that says "NexStar+" and the lowwer LH button on the controller keypad has the Celestron logo on it. If this is the case then we can continue. No mater what problems you ever have with your mount, the very first thing you need to check is the power supply and the power cord. Make sure, if using a battery to power your mount, that the battery has a full and proper charge and that the power cable is plugged in and making good contact. Now, the 'No Responce 17' means the HC is not able to communicate with the MC board. You may try to press the 'Back' button repeatedly and see if this clears the code. If this does not work then you need to check to make sure that the DEC cable is properly connected at both ends and that the HC is also plugged in firmly and completely. Do you have the cables to do an update on the hand controller? If so try updating the HC and see if this fixes the problem. When doing an update on the Hand Controller + you need to use the new 'Celestron Firmware Manager'(CFM) program. Not the older HC and MC update programs previously use to update the older style hand controllers. At this point if nothing has worked, and being that this is a new mount under warranty, you need to contact Celestron for a replacement or advice.

Stan

--- In mailto:CG5%40yahoogroups.com, Dick Martin <deepskyguy95@...> wrote:
>
> I got my new mount and I have not even had it out under the stars yet. I set it up in my den got it working. Packed it away for a new moon and waiting for me cable from Canada for my StarGPS to fit my Next Star. Now it just quit working??!! When I boot up it says "verifing packages. ........please wait." Then it comes back with "No response 17 Invalid model cycle power or press back to continue (some features will not work properly." and I can't get it to alighn.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Dick Martin
>

#1966

From: "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: Brand new CG5

rtlrp12

Dick,

With the CFM program all you need do is to hook up the mount to your computer
via serial cable/adapters and power on the mount. Then open the CFM program and
it is all automatic after that. The screen will show the the CFM display and the
status of connections, downloads and updates.

Stan

--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, Dick Martin <deepskyguy95@...> wrote:
>
> Stan
>  
> Many thanks for the prompt reply.  Yes, I have the new Hand Controller +. 
The 1st thing I did was check the connections and instead of using my Celeston
Power Tank 17 I plugged it into my car battery.  I did 1st time overlook the
DEC cable which I later checked thanks to you.  Still no luck.  I have a
serial cable I got from OPT to connect my laptop to use with my planetarium The
Sky 6, however I can't seem to make this work either.  But the 'scope was
working initially.  I have down loaded the CFM program but I can’t seen to
find any instruction on how to use it.
>
> Dick
>
> ________________________________
> From: RTLRP12 <stanschlieper@...>
> To: CG5@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:59 AM
> Subject: [CG5] Re: Brand new CG5
>
>
>  
>
>
> Dick,
> First let me verify that you have the new Hand Controller +. The New HC has
the logo under the display that says "NexStar+" and the lowwer LH button on the
controller keypad has the Celestron logo on it. If this is the case then we can
continue. No mater what problems you ever have with your mount, the very first
thing you need to check is the power supply and the power cord. Make sure, if
using a battery to power your mount, that the battery has a full and proper
charge and that the power cable is plugged in and making good contact. Now, the
'No Responce 17' means the HC is not able to communicate with the MC board. You
may try to press the 'Back' button repeatedly and see if this clears the code.
If this does not work then you need to check to make sure that the DEC cable is
properly connected at both ends and that the HC is also plugged in firmly and
completely. Do you have the cables to do an update on the hand controller? If so
try updating the HC
>  and see if this fixes the problem. When doing an update on the Hand
Controller + you need to use the new 'Celestron Firmware Manager'(CFM) program.
Not the older HC and MC update programs previously use to update the older style
hand controllers. At this point if nothing has worked, and being that this is a
new mount under warranty, you need to contact Celestron for a replacement or
advice.
>
> Stan
>
> --- In mailto:CG5%40yahoogroups.com, Dick Martin <deepskyguy95@> wrote:
> >
> > I got my new mount and I have not even had it out under the stars yet.  I
set it up in my den got it working.  Packed it away for a new moon and waiting
for me cable from Canada for my StarGPS to fit my Next Star.  Now it just quit
working??!!  When I boot up it says "verifing packages.  ........please
wait."  Then it comes back with "No response 17 Invalid model cycle power or
press back to continue (some features will not work properly."  and I can't get
it to alighn.
> >  
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> >  
> > Dick Martin
> >
>

#1967

From: "Bruce Greenleaf KF1Z" <b.greenleaf@...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: Brand new CG5

radio_waves2002

VVery interesting....

Today, for the first time ever, I got the "'No Responce 17' " error
And had to restart the mount.

Happened several times.

I have not updated the HC or MC for 5 months.


I don't assume there is a connection, likely just coincedence.

It is also the first time the mount has been out in the "hot" sun...
Only 80 F here today... but wonder the heta may have been the culprit.

Bruce G

#1968

From: "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@...>
Date: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:33 am
Subject: Re: Brand new CG5

rtlrp12

Bruce,

The 'No Response 17' refers to the DEC motor control circuit. This means the HC
can't communicate with the mount's DEC MC. I operate my CG-5 mount in 100�+
weather a lot of the time. Partially melted the display on one of my mounts one
extremely hot day. (118�) Never had a heat related problem other than that. I'm
guessing you did check the cable connections. (HC and DEC) You also may want to
look into the sockets that the cables plug into and make sure the fine wire
contacts are aligned correctly and are corrosion free.

Stan

--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Greenleaf   KF1Z" <b.greenleaf@...> wrote:
>
> VVery interesting....
>
> Today, for the first time ever, I got the "'No Responce 17' " error
> And had to restart the mount.
>
> Happened several times.
>
> I have not updated the HC or MC for 5 months.
>
>
> I don't assume there is a connection, likely just coincedence.
>
> It is also the first time the mount has been out in the "hot" sun...
> Only 80 F here today... but wonder the heta may have been the culprit.
>
> Bruce G
>

#1969

From: "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@...>
Date: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:33 pm
Subject: Counterweight Bar

rtlrp12

If anyone would like to upgrade from the 13" counterweight bar to a 16",
Celestron has a bar listed on their parts site for the CGEM 9.25 only.(?) It
sells for $25. This is the same bar that comes with the CGEM mount and fits the
CG-5 as well. Can't beat the price and I'll bet the price goes up in the near
future. A 17" SS bar from Starizona sells for $79 and the 22" ADM goes for $139.

Stan

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#1970

From: Dick Martin <deepskyguy95@...>
Date: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:07 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Brand new CG5

deepskyguy95

Stan

Well, getting nowhere. I don't understand, the thing worked perfectly when I first unpacked it. I put it away awaiting the arrival of a cable for my StarGPS and a RS-232 cable from OPT. When I reassembled the mount in my den the mount did not work? I was just weeks old and never out the house. I am sending it back to Celestron today.

Again many thanks for your help.

Dick

From: RTLRP12 <stanschlieper@...>
To: CG5@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:59 AM
Subject: [CG5] Re: Brand new CG5

#1972

From: "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@...>
Date: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:09 am
Subject: Re: Source for safety screw?

rtlrp12

Andy,

The size of the screw is 4mm x .7 x 25mm.

You can probably get one from your local hardware store.

Stan

--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "ourobouros2k2" <ourobouros2k2@...> wrote:
>
> I recently had the fortune of picking up a used but good condition ASGT CG-5
mount for a hundred bucks. It had some issues, the power switch being one of
them and a cracked dec. motor housing, but got all that fixed. I had to order
the housing and the lat. adjustment screws, but I could not find the mount
saddle safety screw listed in the spare parts section of celestron's site. Mine
is missing, so I was hoping someone might point me in a direction for a suitable
replacement, be it factory replacement or compatible aftermarket.
>
> much thanks,
> Andy
>

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#1973

From: "curlynerd2003" <curlynerd2003@...>
Date: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:18 am
Subject: Relative Newbie

curlynerd2003

Anyone in the North San Diego (Fallbrook) area who'd be willing to help a
frustrated fellow amateur with Polar Alignment and using Autoguide? Beer,
cocktails, steaks and gratefulness offered in exchange for opening up this magic
for me. Happy to offer any expertise I can in advertising, PR, computers, video
or other such fields.

Using a CG5 mount on a SkyWatcher 200 and Orion Starshoot.

Thank for any kind soul who can help. 


Chris Boring
AIM: chrisboring62

#1974

From: "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@...>
Date: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:42 am
Subject: Re: Relative Newbie

rtlrp12

Chris,

I'd be glad to help you. I'm in south Orange County and travel a lot for
outreach and 'consulting'. What kind of problems are you having?

Stan


--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "curlynerd2003" <curlynerd2003@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone in the North San Diego (Fallbrook) area who'd be willing to help a
frustrated fellow amateur with Polar Alignment and using Autoguide? Beer,
cocktails, steaks and gratefulness offered in exchange for opening up this magic
for me. Happy to offer any expertise I can in advertising, PR, computers, video
or other such fields.
>
> Using a CG5 mount on a SkyWatcher 200 and Orion Starshoot.
>
> Thank for any kind soul who can help. 
>
>
> Chris Boring
> AIM: chrisboring62
>

#1975

From: Marcio Ribeiro <marcionribeiro@...>
Date: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:18 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Relative Newbie

marcionribeiro

Hello Cris.

I live in Brasil, but� because the� beer i can go to help you. Lol.

Em 27/06/2012 08:42, "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@...> escreveu:

�

Chris,

I'd be glad to help you. I'm in south Orange County and travel a lot for outreach and 'consulting'. What kind of problems are you having?

Stan

--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "curlynerd2003" <curlynerd2003@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone in the North San Diego (Fallbrook) area who'd be willing to help a frustrated fellow amateur with Polar Alignment and using Autoguide? Beer, cocktails, steaks and gratefulness offered in exchange for opening up this magic for me. Happy to offer any expertise I can in advertising, PR, computers, video or other such fields.
>
> Using a CG5 mount on a SkyWatcher 200 and Orion Starshoot.
>
> Thank for any kind soul who can help. 
>
>
> Chris Boring
> AIM: chrisboring62
>

#1976

From: "Miguel" <aznar@...>
Date: Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: Relative Newbie

m1099j15p

Very complicated and expensive, but now, with 44� in the shadow I would acept
the beer very cold, for sure.

http://www.alignmaster.de/

Visit this link, and check the program that let you align fast your mount. Mine
is working very well in my observatory in spain. After your test, buy if you
like it.

Miguel




--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, Marcio Ribeiro <marcionribeiro@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Cris.
>
> I live in Brasil, but  because the  beer i can go to help you. Lol.
>
> Em 27/06/2012 08:42, "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@...> escreveu:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > I'd be glad to help you. I'm in south Orange County and travel a lot for
> > outreach and 'consulting'. What kind of problems are you having?
> >
> > Stan
> >
> > --- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "curlynerd2003" <curlynerd2003@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone in the North San Diego (Fallbrook) area who'd be willing to help
> > a frustrated fellow amateur with Polar Alignment and using Autoguide? Beer,
> > cocktails, steaks and gratefulness offered in exchange for opening up this
> > magic for me. Happy to offer any expertise I can in advertising, PR,
> > computers, video or other such fields.
> > >
> > > Using a CG5 mount on a SkyWatcher 200 and Orion Starshoot.
> > >
> > > Thank for any kind soul who can help. 
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris Boring
> > > AIM: chrisboring62
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

#1977

From: "Mike" <wizardo@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: Relative Newbie

mike19531212

Chris:

I think your best bet would be to contact the San Diego Astronomy Association
(SDAA).  Their members (I used to be one before I moved) really take helping to
new levels.

They also do a coupld of outreach events every month where you can meet the
members and ask questions.

www.sdaa.org.

Cheers,
Mike

--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "curlynerd2003" <curlynerd2003@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone in the North San Diego (Fallbrook) area who'd be willing to help a
frustrated fellow amateur with Polar Alignment and using Autoguide? Beer,
cocktails, steaks and gratefulness offered in exchange for opening up this magic
for me. Happy to offer any expertise I can in advertising, PR, computers, video
or other such fields.
>
> Using a CG5 mount on a SkyWatcher 200 and Orion Starshoot.
>
> Thank for any kind soul who can help. 
>
>
> Chris Boring
> AIM: chrisboring62
>

#1978

From: "jwse23e" <joschob@...>
Date: Sat Jul 7, 2012 3:41 pm
Subject: boot loader invalid package 0080 - help

jwse23e

hello all,
Have new nexstar+ hand controller and CG5, just 2 months old.  Was working great
until last night.
Get this on hand controller: Swith power on > verifying packages please wait >
Boot loader invald package 0080.

What I've tried so far with no success:
1. AC adapter and car battery
2. Reconnecting all cables
3. Celestron Firmware Update Manager run
4. Submitted online to Celestron support - now waiting for reply

Joe

#1979

From: "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@...>
Date: Sat Jul 7, 2012 5:44 pm
Subject: Re: boot loader invalid package 0080 - help

rtlrp12

Joe,

This is a known problem with some of the early HC+ controllers. Doing an update
with CFM has always fixed the error. When you did the CFM update what happened?
Did the HC update successfully? Also, you must use the new CFM Ver 1.0.2100.

Stan

--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "jwse23e" <joschob@...> wrote:
>
> hello all,
> Have new nexstar+ hand controller and CG5, just 2 months old.  Was working
great until last night.
> Get this on hand controller: Swith power on > verifying packages please wait >
Boot loader invald package 0080.
>
> What I've tried so far with no success:
> 1. AC adapter and car battery
> 2. Reconnecting all cables
> 3. Celestron Firmware Update Manager run
> 4. Submitted online to Celestron support - now waiting for reply
>
> Joe
>

#1980

From: "jwse23e" <joschob@...>
Date: Sun Jul 8, 2012 12:20 am
Subject: Re: boot loader invalid package 0080 - help

jwse23e

Thanks Stan for the rapid reply. I did use the wrong CFM version (0.7.1333).
Tried 1.0.2100 and it solved the problem.
rergards, Joe

--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Joe,
>
> This is a known problem with some of the early HC+ controllers. Doing an
update with CFM has always fixed the error. When you did the CFM update what
happened? Did the HC update successfully? Also, you must use the new CFM Ver
1.0.2100.
>
> Stan
>
> --- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "jwse23e" <joschob@> wrote:
> >
> > hello all,
> > Have new nexstar+ hand controller and CG5, just 2 months old.  Was working
great until last night.
> > Get this on hand controller: Swith power on > verifying packages please wait
> Boot loader invald package 0080.
> >
> > What I've tried so far with no success:
> > 1. AC adapter and car battery
> > 2. Reconnecting all cables
> > 3. Celestron Firmware Update Manager run
> > 4. Submitted online to Celestron support - now waiting for reply
> >
> > Joe
> >
>

#1981

From: "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@...>
Date: Sun Jul 8, 2012 12:57 am
Subject: Re: boot loader invalid package 0080 - help

rtlrp12

That's good news, Joe. I'm glad you got the mount up and working.

Stan

--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "jwse23e" <joschob@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Stan for the rapid reply. I did use the wrong CFM version (0.7.1333).
Tried 1.0.2100 and it solved the problem.
> rergards, Joe
>
> --- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > This is a known problem with some of the early HC+ controllers. Doing an
update with CFM has always fixed the error. When you did the CFM update what
happened? Did the HC update successfully? Also, you must use the new CFM Ver
1.0.2100.
> >
> > Stan
> >
> > --- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "jwse23e" <joschob@> wrote:
> > >
> > > hello all,
> > > Have new nexstar+ hand controller and CG5, just 2 months old.  Was working
great until last night.
> > > Get this on hand controller: Swith power on > verifying packages please
wait > Boot loader invald package 0080.
> > >
> > > What I've tried so far with no success:
> > > 1. AC adapter and car battery
> > > 2. Reconnecting all cables
> > > 3. Celestron Firmware Update Manager run
> > > 4. Submitted online to Celestron support - now waiting for reply
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> >
>

#1982

From: "darcopro" <david@...>
Date: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:24 am
Subject: RA Index Dial

darcopro

Hello, new to the group.  On my CG-5, there are two RA index dials located where
the polar alignment scope would be inserted.  Dial #1 is cone-shaped, can be
rotated freely by hand and rotates with the scope in RA.  It has one set of
index lines from 0-12 hours.  What is the purpose and use of this dial?

Dial #2 is just above the cone-shaped dial and it has index lines with two sets
of numbers running in opposite directions around the dial from 0 to 23.  Above
this dial is a screw.  If you remove the dial there is a hole in the
circumference of the dial located at the zero hour line so that you can insert
the dial and tighten the screw through the hole in the dial, locking it in place
at zero.  In this case, you cannot rotate the dial by hand and it does not
rotate when the scope is rotated in RA.  Is this dial meant to be locked in
place at zero?

It is possible to tighten the screw on the dial after rotating it away from the
hole, in which case the dial rotates with the scope in RA.  But on my scope, the
dial binds up during rotation causing the RA axis to bind and the scope to stop
turning.  Is this dial supposed to be rotatable and lockable at any place on the
dial, or kept locked in place at zero?

Finally, next to the locking screw for this dial, there is a white plastic piece
glued to the body of the mount.  It is engraved "R.A." and has index lines and
numbers from 1 to 10.  What is the purpose and use of this plastic index?

I assume these three dials/indexes are setting circles for moving the scope
manually to some known RA hour but I have no idea how to use them.  The manual
does not address them or explain them at all.

Sorry if this has all be gone over before.  I appreciate any help or instruction
on how to use these dials.

Thanks,
David in Seattle

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#1983

From: "RTLRP12" <stanschlieper@...>
Date: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:59 am
Subject: Re: RA Index Dial

rtlrp12

David,

Those setting circles are for setting the polar alignment scope. Here is a site
that will explain the procedure for you.

Stan

http://galacticfool.com/polar-align-eq-mount/



--- In CG5@yahoogroups.com, "darcopro" <david@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, new to the group.  On my CG-5, there are two RA index dials located
where the polar alignment scope would be inserted.  Dial #1 is cone-shaped, can
be rotated freely by hand and rotates with the scope in RA.  It has one set of
index lines from 0-12 hours.  What is the purpose and use of this dial?
>
> Dial #2 is just above the cone-shaped dial and it has index lines with two
sets of numbers running in opposite directions around the dial from 0 to 23. 
Above this dial is a screw.  If you remove the dial there is a hole in the
circumference of the dial located at the zero hour line so that you can insert
the dial and tighten the screw through the hole in the dial, locking it in place
at zero.  In this case, you cannot rotate the dial by hand and it does not
rotate when the scope is rotated in RA.  Is this dial meant to be locked in
place at zero?
>
> It is possible to tighten the screw on the dial after rotating it away from
the hole, in which case the dial rotates with the scope in RA.  But on my scope,
the dial binds up during rotation causing the RA axis to bind and the scope to
stop turning.  Is this dial supposed to be rotatable and lockable at any place
on the dial, or kept locked in place at zero?
>
> Finally, next to the locking screw for this dial, there is a white plastic
piece glued to the body of the mount.  It is engraved "R.A." and has index lines
and numbers from 1 to 10.  What is the purpose and use of this plastic index?
>
> I assume these three dials/indexes are setting circles for moving the scope
manually to some known RA hour but I have no idea how to use them.  The manual
does not address them or explain them at all.
>
> Sorry if this has all be gone over before.  I appreciate any help or
instruction on how to use these dials.
>
> Thanks,
> David in Seattle
>

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#1984

From: "starmanmike1" <starmanmike1@...>
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:16 am
Subject: Low profile dual speed focuser for the C8 NGT

starmanmike1