Hi group .... please excuse me if this has been discussed, but i feel my scans
are hit or miss as to sharpness even though the slide is tack sharp. It seems
the slides that are bright, scan better than ones with dark backgrounds.

Film: provia 100
Filmget 1.04

I do manual focus but was wondering .... i have tried increment changes of one
up to ten on either side of what the manual focus scanned at and see really no
appreciable difference. Is this normal?

I scan 24bit at 4000 x 4000.

sometimes i use color matching sometimes i dont

i scan to file .... high res i think not sure if this is working

I see alot of people use vuescan but not really an option for me unless i hear
some guarantees

Can any one help?

Thank you
Jeff



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Jeff,

I found that you get what you pay for and filmget is free... my own
experience with it was that I would have to spend 1/2 hr or more
tweaking every slide scan just to get the colors and exposure correct. I
had been using fuji sensia and now use velvia 100. I spent an hour on
the phone with canon support to be told that there was nothing wrong
with the scanner. Though their support person would not say it, the
truth is that it just doesn't handle slide film as it should. It does a
nice scan of your run of the mill Kodak print film but doesn't handle
what I would call high end slide film well. After my call to support I
spent about 8 hrs reading everything on this site and on the web that I
could find. After the canon support call and everything I read, I
decided to ditch filmget and spent the money for vuescan. I can say the
difference is night and day. For most scans that need a tweak it takes
me less than a minute to get the results I want in Photoshop CS. My
recommendation would be to spring for the full-featured version of
vuescan which is what I purchased. I also picked up a set of color
profile slides so that I can set the .icc color profiles in vuescan to
fuji sensia or velvia. They also have profiles for provia. If you are
interested email me offline at wbnw at hotmail dot com. I'm by no means
an expert but I do know what has worked for me.

Peter


>Message: 1
>   Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:12:16 -0800 (PST)
>   From: Jeff Wolfinger <wolfngr@...>
>Subject: how to get the sharpest scans
>
>Hi group .... please excuse me if this has been discussed, but i feel my scans
are hit or miss as to sharpness even though the slide is tack sharp. It seems
the slides that are bright, scan better than ones with dark backgrounds.
>
>Film: provia 100
>Filmget 1.04
>
>I do manual focus but was wondering .... i have tried increment changes of one
up to ten on either side of what the manual focus scanned at and see really no
appreciable difference. Is this normal?
>
>I scan 24bit at 4000 x 4000.
>
>sometimes i use color matching sometimes i dont
>
>i scan to file .... high res i think not sure if this is working
>
>I see alot of people use vuescan but not really an option for me unless i hear
some guarantees
>
>Can any one help?
>
>Thank you
>Jeff
>

With DMAX of 3.8 I doubt this will be the end of dedicated film
scanners.

Alex.

--- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Holekamp"
<clearflite2002@y...> wrote:
> Why is this so cheap? $400 US dollars. Charles-- In
> CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, John Gordon <john_94501@y...> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > It doesn't seem to be a complete replacement though since it has
no
> APS
> > capability. Then again, APS is probably close to dead now too
given
> the prices
> > of the low end digital cameras these days...
> >
> > TTFN,
> > John...
> >
> > --- Dale Cotton <dale_cotton@y...> wrote:
> >
> > > Doh!
> > >
> > > http://www.photo-i.co.uk/News/Sept04/Canon%20scanner.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Burns"
> <daveonline@b...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Dale - can you please post a more complete URL? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   _____
> > > >
> > > > From: Dale Cotton [mailto:dale_cotton@y...]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:43 AM
> > > > To: CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [CanoScanFS4000] FS4000 R.I.P.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > News/Sept04/Canon%20scanner.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Keep up with my news at http://weblog.blueDonkey.org
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now.
> > http://messenger.yahoo.com

How good is the IR dust cleaning in the latest version of Vuescan
with the Canoscan? How does it compare to Canon`s FARE? Thanks.

Hi Jeff,

You're welcome. Mind you I'm not opposed to free software but, to me,
FilmGet is crippled software if you are scanning slide film. Canon did
not invest nearly enough resources to making it as useful as it should have.

Vuescan comes with a standard scanner file and a good number of icc
color profiles. I was happy with the results "out of the box". I did
have a couple of slides that I had trouble with and Vuescan's default
profiles  still handled them better than FilmGet. Without getting into
the nuts and bolts of color profiles myself, I'll  point you to this
article:

http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/colorcalibration/a/cal_scanner.htm

You may not want to get that technical but I'm looking to optimize my
results for the best pictures possible.

I purchased my color profiles from here:

http://www.targets.coloraid.de/

I bought the S1 "all you need" package because I use a number of
different films. The service was fast coming from Germany and he even
threw in a package of gummy bears. I recommend him.

Peter


CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>   Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:12:16 -0800 (PST)
>   From: Jeff Wolfinger <wolfngr@...>
>Subject: Re: Digest Number 575
>
>Thank you Peter for your advice and speedy reply. Yes I can see that vuescan,
after downloading the free version, is much easier and more closer to what the
slide looks like. The color was also more accurate and no descrepency if the
background is dark or light. I will purchase the full version as you suggested
when I get the extra cash. Maybe santa will get it for me ha ha...I guess you
get what you pay for is true!
>
>You mentioned icc color profiles ... are they supplied by vuescan once it is
purchased or did you obtain them from somewhere else? Do they really make a
difference? I imagine they must.
>
>Thank you again,
>Jeff
>
>
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--- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "skettyparker"
<jeremyinglis@t...> wrote:
>
> How good is the IR dust cleaning in the latest version of Vuescan
> with the Canoscan? How does it compare to Canon`s FARE? Thanks.

Vuescan has no cleaning program but allows you to use your scanners
program and see the results with or without instantaneously. With
FARE you are offerd none, light, med, and heavy.   Jeff

Jeff: I'm not sure the following is quite clear from what you're
saying: the FS4000 has the hardware support built in for Infrared
cleaning. This involves doing an infrared pass of the frame as well
as red, green, and blue light passes. The infrared pass is useless,
however, unless the controlling software knows how to compare the
infrared channel with the visible light channels to identify surface
damage. FARE is Canon's proprietary programming to accomplish this;
Vuescan also has its own proprietary programming to accomplish this.

When you enable cleaning in Vuescan, Vuescan tells the scanner to
make an IR pass then compares the result with the visible light
passes to generate a map of surface dust and scratches then attempts
to clone them out.

Vuescan's cleaning algorithm has to work with each and every one of
the dozens of scanners it supports. Obviously, it has sub-modules to
handle any differences between the hardware implementations. Ed is
continually tweaking the cleaning algorithm from one point release of
Vuescan to the next. It was fine on the FS4000 about a year ago, then
for most of this year it developed all sorts of problems, then a few
months ago, around version 8.0, it started working tolerably well
again.


--- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "jeff_dave_wolf"
<wolfngr@s...> wrote:
>
> --- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "skettyparker"
> <jeremyinglis@t...> wrote:
> >
> > How good is the IR dust cleaning in the latest version of Vuescan
> > with the Canoscan? How does it compare to Canon`s FARE? Thanks.
>
> Vuescan has no cleaning program but allows you to use your scanners
> program and see the results with or without instantaneously. With
> FARE you are offerd none, light, med, and heavy.   Jeff

By way of introduction, let me say that I am basically a newbie to
film scanning and that this is my first post to this forum after
having only recently discovered it.  Unfortunately the learning
curve with my new FS4000 has been somewhat steep, and I have a lot
of questions and have encountred a number of situations where I
can't seem to get a good scan.  So hopefully, you more experienced
folks will be able to help!

I've been playing with the demo version of Vuescan - trying to get
greater control compared to what FilmGet provides (and having a
moderate amount of success).  But I've encountered a problem with
the IR dust removal.  As with FilmGet, the dust removal feature
actually does a pretty good job.  At least it did with my initial
scans at 2000dpi and 24bit depth.  But for some reason when I bump
the settings up to 4000dpi and 48bit depth, it simply doesn't work!
I mean I still have dust removal checked (set to "light"), but the
final scan shows the dust - just as if the feature were turned off.
Could it be that dust removal is simply disabled for the higher
settings in the demo version?  Or is there something else going on
here that I'm missing?

Thanks for any ideas,

Jeff

What version of Vuescan?  The latest version (ironically released the
day of your post) is supposed to fix the problem you describe.  Check
it out from the site, "What's new in this release"
>>What's new in version 8.1.20
     * Added support for Epson Perfection 4990 / GT-X800
     * Added support for Epson PM-A900
     * Improved infrared cleaning on all scanners
     * Fixed problem with 4800 dpi scans on Canon 9950F
     * Fixed problem with infrared cleaning on Canon scanners
     * Fixed problem using raw scan files from NikonScan <<

If this doesn't solve your problem you may want to email the author on
his site. http://www.hamrick.com/

John



--- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "applegaten" <applegaten@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> By way of introduction, let me say that I am basically a newbie to
> film scanning and that this is my first post to this forum after
> having only recently discovered it.  Unfortunately the learning
> curve with my new FS4000 has been somewhat steep, and I have a lot
> of questions and have encountred a number of situations where I
> can't seem to get a good scan.  So hopefully, you more experienced
> folks will be able to help!
>
> I've been playing with the demo version of Vuescan - trying to get
> greater control compared to what FilmGet provides (and having a
> moderate amount of success).  But I've encountered a problem with
> the IR dust removal.  As with FilmGet, the dust removal feature
> actually does a pretty good job.  At least it did with my initial
> scans at 2000dpi and 24bit depth.  But for some reason when I bump
> the settings up to 4000dpi and 48bit depth, it simply doesn't work!

> I mean I still have dust removal checked (set to "light"), but the
> final scan shows the dust - just as if the feature were turned off.

> Could it be that dust removal is simply disabled for the higher
> settings in the demo version?  Or is there something else going on
> here that I'm missing?
>
> Thanks for any ideas,
>
> Jeff

John,

Yep, I have version 8.1.19 - got it just a few days before they
apparently released the new version! I think you may be right - it's
a good guess that the problem they fixed is exactly what I was
referring to.  Thanks for the response! I'll be looking into it, now
that I know where to look.

Thanks,

Jeff


--- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, jchilds64 <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> What version of Vuescan?  The latest version (ironically released
the
> day of your post) is supposed to fix the problem you describe.
Check
> it out from the site, "What's new in this release"
> >>What's new in version 8.1.20
>     * Added support for Epson Perfection 4990 / GT-X800
>     * Added support for Epson PM-A900
>     * Improved infrared cleaning on all scanners
>     * Fixed problem with 4800 dpi scans on Canon 9950F
>     * Fixed problem with infrared cleaning on Canon scanners
>     * Fixed problem using raw scan files from NikonScan <<
>
> If this doesn't solve your problem you may want to email the
author on
> his site. http://www.hamrick.com/
>
> John
>
>
>
> --- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "applegaten"
<applegaten@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > By way of introduction, let me say that I am basically a newbie
to
> > film scanning and that this is my first post to this forum after
> > having only recently discovered it.  Unfortunately the learning
> > curve with my new FS4000 has been somewhat steep, and I have a
lot
> > of questions and have encountred a number of situations where I
> > can't seem to get a good scan.  So hopefully, you more
experienced
> > folks will be able to help!
> >
> > I've been playing with the demo version of Vuescan - trying to
get
> > greater control compared to what FilmGet provides (and having a
> > moderate amount of success).  But I've encountered a problem
with
> > the IR dust removal.  As with FilmGet, the dust removal feature
> > actually does a pretty good job.  At least it did with my
initial
> > scans at 2000dpi and 24bit depth.  But for some reason when I
bump
> > the settings up to 4000dpi and 48bit depth, it simply doesn't
work!
>
> > I mean I still have dust removal checked (set to "light"), but
the
> > final scan shows the dust - just as if the feature were turned
off.
>
> > Could it be that dust removal is simply disabled for the higher
> > settings in the demo version?  Or is there something else going
on
> > here that I'm missing?
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas,
> >
> > Jeff

Well, all I can say is that my record of bad timing is
unblemished :)!  I think I am going to just crack down and buy the
Vuescan software now.  I'll try to report back here soon as to
whether the new version actually fixes the problem or not.

By the way, Mark, your sig cracks me up: "canonitis FD
sufferer..."!  I'm still an FD user myself (A1 body), but hoping to
make the transition to digital soon, probably in the form of a 20D.
Only the cost is holding me up.  I'm using the time to reaquaint
myself with the old A1, improving my photography in general, getting
into wildlife photography in particular, learning the ins and outs
of image processing, and testing to see which lenses I really want
to have.  Hopefully the transition to the DSLR won't be too
difficult if I get my act together first.

As a side note, I've convinced myself that I will "have to have" the
EF 300/2.8L IS lens when I go digital.  As a big experiment, I
purchased a used 300/2.8 FD lens for about $700 from KEH ("bargain"
condition) and have been playing with that.  It's been a great lens
and I'm having a ball doing the wildlife photography thing.  ...now
if only I could get a handle on the whole scanning and post-
processing thing and work out a decent workflow.  But at least I'm
having fun!

Jeff

--- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, awahlster@a... wrote:
> LOL Glad I waited until tomorrow to down load Vuescan for myself.
As I have
> a FS4000US and now I don't have to waste the time trying to figure
out
> something  i wouldn't have been able to fix. I also notice it now
works with my
> D2400U flat  bed that it didn't last time I thought about getting
it. Guess for
> once my  timing is good.
>
> Mark  W.
>
> Canonitis FD sufferer and collector of 1950s rangefinder cameras
including
> Braun/Paxettes, Leica, Retina, and others.
>
> Show and tell:  http://awahlster.tripod.com/photo
>
> Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons,  as you are crunchy and
taste good
> with ketchup!

OK I did something the other night trying to install the filmget patch.

The end result is that now when I attempt to access the scanner
through any of my Twain compliant programs (like PS LE) I get a
message that says

ERROR: Can't Load Localize Module, Please re-install "FilmGet FS"

Then a second message come up:

Could not open the TWAIN source. Make sure there is a vaild source for
your scanner in the TWAIN Directory found in the Windows Directory.

Now I have my software CD that came with the scanner and on it is
FilmGet I just can't get it from there as the computer thinks the
scanner is installed and working properly!!!!

I also have the driver downloaded from Canon USA along with the patch
I can't seam to figure out how to get that to work.

Any help would be very very much appreciated.


LOST

Mark W.

I do have two drives and could if need be stash everything important
on my Photo storeage drive and then format the program drive and start
over if need be. BUT hoping I don't have to do that. The computer is
ONLY used for photo work and I'm just getting everything setup and
ready to run so there ain't a whole lot on it. So it wouldn't take
long to move everything.

Mark W.






--- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "awahlster" <awahlster@a...> wrote:
>
> OK I did something the other night trying to install the filmget patch.
>
> The end result is that now when I attempt to access the scanner
> through any of my Twain compliant programs (like PS LE) I get a
> message that says
>
> ERROR: Can't Load Localize Module, Please re-install "FilmGet FS"
>
> Then a second message come up:
>
> Could not open the TWAIN source. Make sure there is a vaild source for
> your scanner in the TWAIN Directory found in the Windows Directory.
>
> Now I have my software CD that came with the scanner and on it is
> FilmGet I just can't get it from there as the computer thinks the
> scanner is installed and working properly!!!!
>
> I also have the driver downloaded from Canon USA along with the patch
> I can't seam to figure out how to get that to work.
>
> Any help would be very very much appreciated.
>
>
> LOST
>
> Mark W.

OH never mind I finally found some little pc. of paper that told me
how to completley uninstall the damn thing and then reinstall it.
Something like 4 hours ago I was going to scan a few slides.....Would
have taken less time to mix up chemicals and printed them WET!!!


OK so I scan tomorrow.


Mark W.

--- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "awahlster" <awahlster@a...> wrote:
>
>
> I do have two drives and could if need be stash everything important
> on my Photo storeage drive and then format the program drive and start
> over if need be. BUT hoping I don't have to do that. The computer is
> ONLY used for photo work and I'm just getting everything setup and
> ready to run so there ain't a whole lot on it. So it wouldn't take
> long to move everything.
>
> Mark W.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "awahlster" <awahlster@a...>
wrote:
> >
> > OK I did something the other night trying to install the filmget
patch.
> >
> > The end result is that now when I attempt to access the scanner
> > through any of my Twain compliant programs (like PS LE) I get a
> > message that says
> >
> > ERROR: Can't Load Localize Module, Please re-install "FilmGet FS"
> >
> > Then a second message come up:
> >
> > Could not open the TWAIN source. Make sure there is a vaild source for
> > your scanner in the TWAIN Directory found in the Windows Directory.
> >
> > Now I have my software CD that came with the scanner and on it is
> > FilmGet I just can't get it from there as the computer thinks the
> > scanner is installed and working properly!!!!
> >
> > I also have the driver downloaded from Canon USA along with the patch
> > I can't seam to figure out how to get that to work.
> >
> > Any help would be very very much appreciated.
> >
> >
> > LOST
> >
> > Mark W.

Mark,

Looks like you've been having some "fun" trying to put it all
together too!  Sorry I missed the messages (haven't checked this
group in a few days).  But then again, I am not usually much help
solving pc problems anyway.

Actually, I was about to reply and report on my findings with the
latest Vuescan version.  I purchased the thing, got my serial
number, entered it in as directed, and low and behold, the IR dust
removal worked properly at the 4000dpi/48bits setting!  ...BUT(hold
the presses!) on my second scan it reverted to its former bad
behavior - showing the dust removal in the preview but not in the
final scan or donwloaded file. Urrgggg!  ...getting tired of this.

Anyway, let us know how its all working for you.  I hope you are up
and running and making great scans now!

Jeff

--- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "awahlster" <awahlster@a...>
wrote:
>
> OH never mind I finally found some little pc. of paper that told me
> how to completley uninstall the damn thing and then reinstall it.
> Something like 4 hours ago I was going to scan a few
slides.....Would
> have taken less time to mix up chemicals and printed them WET!!!
>
>
> OK so I scan tomorrow.
>
>
> Mark W.
>
> --- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "awahlster"
<awahlster@a...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I do have two drives and could if need be stash everything
important
> > on my Photo storeage drive and then format the program drive and
start
> > over if need be. BUT hoping I don't have to do that. The
computer is
> > ONLY used for photo work and I'm just getting everything setup
and
> > ready to run so there ain't a whole lot on it. So it wouldn't
take
> > long to move everything.
> >
> > Mark W.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "awahlster"
<awahlster@a...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK I did something the other night trying to install the
filmget
> patch.
> > >
> > > The end result is that now when I attempt to access the scanner
> > > through any of my Twain compliant programs (like PS LE) I get a
> > > message that says
> > >
> > > ERROR: Can't Load Localize Module, Please re-install "FilmGet
FS"
> > >
> > > Then a second message come up:
> > >
> > > Could not open the TWAIN source. Make sure there is a vaild
source for
> > > your scanner in the TWAIN Directory found in the Windows
Directory.
> > >
> > > Now I have my software CD that came with the scanner and on it
is
> > > FilmGet I just can't get it from there as the computer thinks
the
> > > scanner is installed and working properly!!!!
> > >
> > > I also have the driver downloaded from Canon USA along with
the patch
> > > I can't seam to figure out how to get that to work.
> > >
> > > Any help would be very very much appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > LOST
> > >
> > > Mark W.

Sorry for the delay: haven't check this forum over the holidays.

> rarely use it as It seems to degrade sharpness

Not supposed to change anything except where there is a dust mote or
a scratch, but ...

> clean the few specs manually with my image editing software
> than to lose overall sharpness perceived or not!

I envy you your clean film!


--- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Wolfinger <wolfngr@s...>
wrote:
> thank you Dale for straightening me out and am sorry if I misled or
misinformed anyone.... I thought I had read in all that I have been
reading that Vuescan uses your scanner's dust cleaning utility. I
rarely use it as It seems to degrade sharpness but when I have in
both platforms FilmGet and Viewscan I felt the results were similar.
I find it much easier to clean the few specs (or even a large amount)
manually with my image editing software than to lose overall
sharpness perceived or not!    Jeff

> make the transition to digital soon,
> probably in the form of a 20D

Make sure you know what you're getting into before making any
irreversible decisions. If you use a tripod, good glass, etc., the
amount of detail and colour gradation you're going to get from an
FS4000 scan is going to blow away anything you can get from a 20D.
I'm not a film bigot, but I've done quite a lot of editing and
printing from both formats. You need about 12 megapixels and 14-bit
colour depth in a digital camera to equal a 35mm tranny scan and make
that 15 megapixels for a good neg scan.

I strongly suggest taking some 20D pix in the camera store, taking a
CD of them home, then making some test prints before making a
commitment. Of course, when I say this, I'm assuming print quality is
more important to you than convenience. Digital capture is great if
you have to meet deadlines, work at high ISOs, etc.

A friend of mine is a pro portrait photographer, who has quite a few
cameras, including 35mm, 120, and various digitals. Never mind
detail: he just can't get the subtleties of shadow gradations and
colour changes from a digital SLR that he gets from 14-bit scanned
film.



--- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, "applegaten" <applegaten@y...>
wrote:
>
> Well, all I can say is that my record of bad timing is
> unblemished :)!  I think I am going to just crack down and buy the
> Vuescan software now.  I'll try to report back here soon as to
> whether the new version actually fixes the problem or not.
>
> By the way, Mark, your sig cracks me up: "canonitis FD
> sufferer..."!  I'm still an FD user myself (A1 body), but hoping to
> make the transition to digital soon, probably in the form of a
20D.
> Only the cost is holding me up.  I'm using the time to reaquaint
> myself with the old A1, improving my photography in general,
getting
> into wildlife photography in particular, learning the ins and outs
> of image processing, and testing to see which lenses I really want
> to have.  Hopefully the transition to the DSLR won't be too
> difficult if I get my act together first.
>
> As a side note, I've convinced myself that I will "have to have"
the
> EF 300/2.8L IS lens when I go digital.  As a big experiment, I
> purchased a used 300/2.8 FD lens for about $700 from KEH ("bargain"
> condition) and have been playing with that.  It's been a great lens
> and I'm having a ball doing the wildlife photography thing.  ...now
> if only I could get a handle on the whole scanning and post-
> processing thing and work out a decent workflow.  But at least I'm
> having fun!
>
> Jeff

Hi all. Vuescan has been a Godsend. I am really happy with it except
when it comes to overall dark slides. The exposure for other slides
have been right on for the most part but when i scan a slide with
overall darkness say -2 or so i get this very bright and grainy image
that is not even close to the real thing. And some dark slides it
gets accurately. I tried manipulating the dark point and white point
and brightness and nothing seems to work. I tried the exposure
clipping from 0-11 and no change. I tried to lock exposure and
manipulate the 2 dials (i really have no idea what I am doing!) and
there is no change.

Is there some way to have control over exposure?

Like I say if the exposure is nuetral the scans are great. The
sharpness and ease scanning and obtaining exquisite results is
fantastic. I have deleted filmget off my hard drive as I am sure I
will never need it.... Although it did have exposure control.

Any help will be greatly appreciated

Jeff

Hey this is funny I was reading about some guy trying to decide if he
should turn his Nikon scanner off or not and a couple of responders
talked about just covering it for dust.

Well the other day we were going to go to the zoo to shoot some but it
was a little damp out we stopped at my wifes grociery store for
something to take for lunch. While there I spotted some shower cap
type bowl covers that Saran wrap sells I picked them up by the time we
got to the zoo it was pouring so I never used them (they come in three
sizes.

Anyway I just tried the small one fits the nose of the FS4000US
pefectly the joint between the end piece and the body holds it in
place perfectly.

And it allows the vents in the back to remain open should work real
nice. I think they were less then a $1.50. The others are stuffed in a
couple of film cans as rain gear for my cameras.

Mark W.

> white point setting to 0.1 - 0.2

Amazing: I never thought to use fractions!Many thanks!

> And lastly i didnt know dragons had ketchup .......

He who questions the word of a wizard may find himself speechless.

IAC, when was the last time you actually SAW a dragon? I never have.
Clearly, they died out long before our time. And why was that, pray
tell?

We have the meteor theory for the extinction of dinosaurs, but in the
case of dragons the records *clearly* state that it was their
unrequited relish for the sauce called ketchup that they finally came
to know would not be invented for thousands of years (and even then
only available to *humans*!) that caused them to eventually lose
the will to live*.

Of course, that is also why they hoarded gold and treasure: before
they were certain that ketchup did not yet exist they wanted to be
sure to have sufficient funds to purchase it if and when they learned
where to find it (and couldn't take it by main force).

- - - - -
* Well, of course there is another theory that a certain unfortunate
kink in their amorous encounters in later centuries caused for the
singeing of a few too many male members ... but that has to be
unsubstantiated.



--- In CanoScanFS4000@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Wolfinger <wolfngr@s...>
wrote:
>  Mark, thanks but i do not think you understand. I am talking about
a properly exposed slide. I mean if it is dark green it should stay
dark green and not become medium green. I use a modified zone system
and chose slide film as my medium because i can control the exposure.
I am not sure what made you think i was trying to  "save" a poorly
exposed slide but maybe i was unclear.
>
> As for filmget, to me,  that would be trying to get something out
of crap. It is a crap program in my opinion and will not be reloaded.
>
> I have had some success since i posted the original by dropping the
white point setting to 0.1 - 0.2 and it looks good. I would like to
know if there is a better way to control exposure with vuescan or if
that is the way.
>
> And lastly i didnt know dragons had ketchup .......
>
> Jeff
>
> >Jeff you might try reinstalling Filmget and see if it works on
these underexposed slides.
>
> >BUT it has been my experiance that weither in the darkroom or with
a computer it's pretty >hard to make up for something that isn't
there.
>
> >My photogrpahy teacher had a saying whic of course everyone hated.
>
> >Crap in crap out. Meaning that while you could (at that time) do
some stuff in the darkroom to >make a negitive (we only worked with
B&W in High School) better. If it was junk when you >took it into the
room the prints you brought out would most likely be junk as well.
>
> >And I think from what I have seen with the little work I have done
with my older Canon scanner >and now the FS4000US that a properly
exposed slide is even more important then before >when projection was
the end result.
>
> >Mark W.
>
> >Canonitis FD sufferer and collector of 1950s rangefinder cameras
including >Braun/Paxettes, Leica, Retina, and others.
>
> >Show and tell: http://awahlster.tripod.com/photo
>
> >Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, as you are crunchy and
taste good with >ketchup!