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RE: [Carbon Net] FW: Environmentalists Oppose More Corn Crops.doc

I cannot but refrain from the stupidity that genetic based corn is bad for human consumption. This utter rot and  not to intelligent for people to think they are immune. I know that corn was mutated in the 1960’s so every human on earth has eaten vast quantities genetically engineered corn and they have not died from this highly nutritious supplement. RS 44 and all corn types have all been reengineered. So get used to idea your food has been manipulated for more than 40 years and without ill effects despite idiots like Rifkin.

 

The planet cannot sustain food supply to 6 billion people if we ate organic foods , which in some cases most organic food  is grown in human feces, so better beware that all this organic stuff is not free of pathogens , it has rich supplement of up 400 different bacteria’s. Organic food is fine for your backyard plot of vegetables, but the world would have to triple the land mass to go organic and this not possible. This type of environmental nonsense is close to being close to the edge of madness.

 

It is amazing how backward people are and live in world in which is far removed from reality. Yes corn seed is madness for ethanol if we doubled the corn production in the USA we would only meet 12% of our fuel needs for automobiles. And one major drought the entire country would come to standstill.

 

I do not know where President Bush gets his numbers but it is poorly done. Ethanol is waste of time from corn and has uses no doubt, but not as a primary fuel. Hydrogen is madness and stupidity at best. The atom is the smallest and that would truly cook the earth as they tiny molecules escaped into the atmosphere every time you filled your car at your favorite hydrogen fuel supplier that is if you do not ignite the process and your remains are distributed for miles.. So forget about hydrogen cars we would certainly die from that prospective as the ultra violet radiation would spell the end of planet 100% guaranteed.

 

I think I do know more about this so called hydrogen economy than most people as I developed fuel cells fro NASA. It is time to look at the only asset we have oil from coal and this can be clean and cheap. The US has 50% of the worlds coal reserves and instead of wasting our money on research buy a license from Sasol in South Africa they have done this since 1955.

 

 

 This will stop us exploiting the public for R&D dollars to Halliburton /KBR, and get rid of big oil and get this country away from the Middle East.

 

This is a big issue the oil industry has lied they do not have the oil reserves so in 5 years expect $8 dollar a gallon gas. The Republicans have don zero for national energy policy and the democrats are no different look at where their money comes from via lobbies in Washington.

 

I would suggest that you determine an algorism in Btu’s for people in India & China / Africa and the cost to heat and cook food in the third world burning wood, charcoal as opposed the natural gas and the cost to Europeans and then Americans. There is an answer is the third world is wanting and wasteful of energy and is cause of many environmental issues and CO 2. China and India who are not members of this dumb Kyoto protocol  cause 70% of all the damage and this includes Brazil burning the rain forests , and this includes Indonesia and Africa .In 1900 we had a little of over 1 billion people on the planet now we have  6 billion most in under- developed countries like India and China.

What happened to that seditious liberal media group that twists the real facts about global warming?

 

I have studied ice cores that are 8000 years old and this warming is a problem , and yes blame all the timber burned and the 3 rd world  and other issues of pollution with China filthy coal burning economy , as is the case in Pakistan & India . Ever 1000 to 8 000 years the planet heats up or we volcanic activity. This is  all natural  to experience , but what is a problem is those 6 billion people all adding to the problem. ?

 

 

Trevor Hicks

 


From: Carbon_Net@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Carbon_Net@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Reginald Destree
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:06 AM
To: Carbon_Net@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Carbon_Net] FW: Environmentalists Oppose More Corn Crops.doc

 

Corn growing appears to be the issue. This pales into insignificance to GMO corn. This is the environmental issue.

 

Further, the most serious health problem introduced into our food supply is in the last 24 mpnths is GMO/ BT Sweet corn. This is one of the seed industries best kept secrets.

 

Let's stop this first, then worry about the increased field corn acres.

When buying sweet corn, best you start with organic corn to be assured you are not injesting BT lased sweet corn

 

Reg Destree

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:35 AM

Subject: [Carbon_Net] FW: Environmentalists Oppose More Corn Crops.doc

 

FYI - JimV.

 


From: Brooks, Linden - Red Bluff, CA
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:31 AM
To: Bruce Williams (bruce.williams@ca.usda.gov); Charlette Epifanio ; Gordon, Bruce - Eureka, CA; James - Yreka CA Patterson (James.Patterson@ca.usda.gov); James Spear ; Jim Vancura; Peter Townley; Smith, Stephen - Ukiah, CA; Souther, Andrea ; Andrea Casey; Bob Bailey; Brewer, Larry ; 'David Rose'; Garcia, Timothy - Yuba City, CA; Hogan, Phil ; Larry Akin; Larry Branham; Nathan Key (Nathan.Key@ca.usda.gov); Rae Ann Dubay; Tiffany Riess ; Vlach, Robert - Willows, CA; Dale Kroschel; Dan Martynn; Gene Kelley; 'Higa, Sandy'; Ken Weaver; 'Mark.Steffek'; Barbara Ammon; Beverly Kienitz; David Sanden; Erik Beardsley; Jim Komar; John Earle; Richard King; Tim Viel; Tom Benson
Subject: FW: Environmentalists Oppose More Corn Crops.doc
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From: Hogan, Phil - Woodland, CA
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:18 PM
To: Brooks, Linden - Red Bluff, CA; Brown, Anita - Davis, CA
Cc: Plumb, Larry - Davis, CA
Subject: Environmentalists Oppose More Corn Crops.doc
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Lin and Anita:

Please distribute as you see fit - PHIL

 

This interview happened to be on NPR this morning on my way back from a farm call.

 

Very interesting analysis on how increased corn prices due to demand for ethanol production may impact conservation in the Midwest afforded by the USDA NRCS Conservation Reserve Program.

 

I don't see corn being grown on our HEL CRP ground here in California, but if demand gets high enough someday, perhaps some other crop might be

 

PHIL HOGAN

District Conservationist

USDA Natural Resources Conservation Service

Woodland Field Office

(530) 662-2037 X 111

(530) 662-4876 FAX

 

 



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