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Re: [CipherChallenge] Re: Genome Cipher?

Hi,

When bioscientists encounter a sequence, ususally the first thing they
do is do a BLAST (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/BLAST/) search. The
sequence you posted gives a nice hit at human chromosome 11.

Regards,
Wolfgang

John Lobert schrieb:
>
>
> Don't know how she identified it. I'll ask her. She knew all about
> 23andme and someone who had
> registered his DNA there.
>
> As for the entire genome, I don't think so. With 3.2 billion base pairs,
> I doubt anyone would go
> to the trouble.
>
> John
>
> --- Alexandra Fiona Dixon <alexandra@...
> <mailto:alexandra%40t-hunts.com>> wrote:
>
> > Hmmm, I googled that sequence of bases and didn't come up with anything.
> > You mean to say, the whole human genome isn't indexed somewhere???
> >
> > Seriously, how did Honeybee identify that sequence?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Lobert" <johnlobert@...
> <mailto:johnlobert%40sbcglobal.net>>
> > To: <CipherChallenge@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:CipherChallenge%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 12:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CipherChallenge] Re: Genome Cipher?
> >
> >
> > > Dave:
> > >
> > > Wish I could take credit for it, but I can't. It was fellow ACA member
> > > HONEYBEE who figured it out. The rest of this group should join us!
> > >
> > > John
> > > KEYSTONE
> > >
> > > Dave Smith <aca_photon@... <mailto:aca_photon%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> > > Nice work!
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > keystonejcl <johnlobert@...
> <mailto:johnlobert%40sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
> > > And the answer is:
> > >
> > > It's DNA from human chromosome 11. Each segment is expanded by two
> > > markers with the rest repeating. Sorry, but no secret code...
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > --- In CipherChallenge@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:CipherChallenge%40yahoogroups.com>, "Tim Roberts"
> > > <t.roberts@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Alexandra,
> > >>
> > >> Yes, I think it's far more likely to be a repeating 29-amino acid
> > > peptide, or something (I'm trying to sound knowedgable here) rather
> > > than a cipher.....
> > >>
> > >> Tim
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >>
> > >> From: Alexandra Fiona Dixon [mailto:alexandra@...]
> > >> Sent: Sat 16-Jun-07 3:13 AM
> > >> To: CipherChallenge@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:CipherChallenge%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [CipherChallenge] Genome Cipher?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Nothing other than that it would be somewhat inelegant to just
> > > dump a bunch
> > >> of codons into the source code and leave it at that. Wishful
> > > thinking,
> > >> maybe!?
> > >>
> > >> Is the sequence long enough to actually code for a protein? Maybe
> > > job
> > >> applicants are supposed to name the protein...
> > >>
> > >> A'a
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "John Lobert" <johnlobert@... <mailto:johnlobert%
> > > 40sbcglobal.net> >
> > >> To: <CipherChallenge@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:CipherChallenge%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:CipherChallenge%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com> >
> > >> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:20 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [CipherChallenge] Genome Cipher?
> > >>
> > >> >I agree with you on all that. I'm just asking what leads you to
> > > believe
> > >> >that she wanted the reader to do something with the sequence in
> > > the source
> > >> >other than discovering it?
> > >> >
> > >> > John
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Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:21 am

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Hey everybody, long time, no key. So, I was looking at the web site of a company called 23andme.com. This page http://www.23andme.com/jobs.html gives a hint...
Alexandra Fiona Dixon
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Alexandra, Does it have to be anything more than it appears to be, DNA bases? John Alexandra Fiona Dixon <alexandra@...> wrote:...
John Lobert
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No, it doesn't. But the surface page says to be re-source-ful (source is in italics)...and it's the only thing that seems at all covert on the page. The...
Alexandra Fiona Dixon
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Jun 15, 2007
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I agree with you on all that. I'm just asking what leads you to believe that she wanted the reader to do something with the sequence in the source other than...
John Lobert
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Jun 15, 2007
3:22 pm

Hi Alexandra, Well, if it is indeed a cipher (has that been established?) it would seem to me that your first steps have been sensible and correct, ie 1) look...
Tim Roberts
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Jun 15, 2007
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Alexandra, Oh! There are 637 letters, not 636! So surely this just about rules out a cipher made up of codons....? Tim ________________________________ From:...
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Oh, you're right! How did I miss that? Well, maybe it would be worthwhile to start building codons from the 2nd position. Nope, tried that. And third. ... ...
Alexandra Fiona Dixon
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I don't know if it helps, but 637 is 7 * 7 * 13 All the best David Cookson www.musicalsolutions.com...
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Nothing other than that it would be somewhat inelegant to just dump a bunch of codons into the source code and leave it at that. Wishful thinking, maybe!? Is...
Alexandra Fiona Dixon
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Hi Alexandra, Yes, I think it's far more likely to be a repeating 29-amino acid peptide, or something (I'm trying to sound knowedgable here) rather than a...
Tim Roberts
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Jun 16, 2007
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And the answer is: It's DNA from human chromosome 11. Each segment is expanded by two markers with the rest repeating. Sorry, but no secret code... John ... ...
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Jun 20, 2007
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Nice work! Dave keystonejcl <johnlobert@...> wrote: And the answer is: It's DNA from human chromosome 11. Each segment is expanded by two markers...
Dave Smith
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Jun 20, 2007
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Dave: Wish I could take credit for it, but I can't. It was fellow ACA member HONEYBEE who figured it out. The rest of this group should join us! John KEYSTONE ...
John Lobert
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Jun 20, 2007
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Hmmm, I googled that sequence of bases and didn't come up with anything. You mean to say, the whole human genome isn't indexed somewhere??? Seriously, how did...
Alexandra Fiona Dixon
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Jun 21, 2007
2:50 am

Don't know how she identified it. I'll ask her. She knew all about 23andme and someone who had registered his DNA there. As for the entire genome, I don't...
John Lobert
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Jun 21, 2007
4:37 am

Hi, When bioscientists encounter a sequence, ususally the first thing they do is do a BLAST (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/BLAST/) search. The sequence you...
Wolfgang Beyer
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Jun 21, 2007
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The entire genome is small compared to the length the e-mails on this thread will be if everyone keeps copying the entire thread at the end of their messages....
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