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Re: Flaw in output current monitoring


--- In Classen_dyno@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Karn" <karn@...> wrote:
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> I have studied Ron's design and have found a rather serious flaw in
> the way he measures output current. Look at his circuit diagram here:
>
> http://home.mchsi.com/~actt2/logic.htm
>
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1. No claim of overunity has ever been made by me concerning this device.
.
2. The circuit depicted is deliberate as part of an experimentation
dealing with ways to compress / amplify energy. (note: the term
energy was used, not power)

3. Negative resistance is just one aspect of many relating to the
feedback circuit. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_resistance )

Perhaps an unconventional approach by engineering standards, but yet
seems to yield results which no one has yet satisfactorily explained
(to me anyway) using formulae and scientific data. To hand-wave it
off as "flawed" seems a bit presumptive at this juncture.

Ronald Classen




Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:27 pm

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I have studied Ron's design and have found a rather serious flaw in the way he measures output current. Look at his circuit diagram here: ...
Phil Karn
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Nov 22, 2007
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... 1. No claim of overunity has ever been made by me concerning this device. . 2. The circuit depicted is deliberate as part of an experimentation dealing...
Ronald
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Nov 29, 2007
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... device. Your demo video certainly seems to make such a claim. You show input and output voltages and currents and note that the output power appears to be...
Phil Karn
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Dec 14, 2007
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... appears to ... It is a demonstration of a feedback loop with a "you decide" thrown out to the viewer in both videos. The website also clearly states that...
Ronald
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Dec 14, 2007
5:56 pm

... Maybe I misunderstood you, but when you said "feedback" I took that to mean you were working toward closing the loop between the machine's output and its...
Phil Karn
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Dec 14, 2007
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... Clearly your ultimate goal *is* to have the machine ... The ultimate goal is to find a way to produce electrical energy using the least amount of input...
Ronald
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... The answer to that is very simple. It does not require a lot of work. To produce a given amount of electrical energy, you must supply at least that amount...
Phil Karn
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... time ... physics ... Thank you for your input, Mr. Karn. However, a 'free energy' experimenter isn't seeking to replicate status quo. The goal is to make...
Ronald
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... And perhaps that explains why the free energy experimenters have never made any progress. None whatsoever. ... Nuclear bombs are based on accepted physics....
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