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#2851 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Sat Dec 5, 2009 6:52 am
Subject: [Fwd: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20090520.EN.aspx]
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Date: 5 Dec 2009 00:02:27 +0100
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To: chad@...

http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20090520.EN.aspx
Name: Jammy
Email: broadcast_j@...
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And even though I said the VGA is fine, i meant that the mode you used
is fine.  All the other modes don't work.

#2850 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Sat Dec 5, 2009 6:52 am
Subject: [Fwd: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20090520.EN.aspx]
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Date: 4 Dec 2009 23:21:46 +0100
From: Jammy <broadcast_j@...>
To: chad@...

http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20090520.EN.aspx
Name: Jammy
Email: broadcast_j@...
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I can't seem to get the mouse working...The VGA is fine, but the mouse
just doesn't work.  It's always reported as 0,0. :(
Was there any Mouse.Initialize or something that I needed to do?

#2849 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:02 am
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20091101.EN.aspx]
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I have plans for this too.. dont worry. :)

David Jeske wrote:
>
>
> This is not worth worrying about in a project like this as it's a
> 'success failure'. Getting this project to a place where microsoft even
> notices it is a much bigger hurdle.
>
> If somehow another organization turned .NET into an actual threat to
> Microsoft, they are a business, and I can imagine them trying to use
> their leverage against that competitor. I can also imagine it not working.
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <Chad@...
> <mailto:Chad@...>> wrote:
>
>     There is still a lot of fear about using .Net and the dangers with the
>     possibility that MS could cut off programmers. I myself don't think that
>     such a scenario is likely to happen, what is your take on this?
>
>
>

#2848 From: David Jeske <davidj@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:02 am
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20091101.EN.aspx]
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This is not worth worrying about in a project like this as it's a 'success failure'. Getting this project to a place where microsoft even notices it is a much bigger hurdle. 

If somehow another organization turned .NET into an actual threat to Microsoft, they are a business, and I can imagine them trying to use their leverage against that competitor. I can also imagine it not working. 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <Chad@...> wrote:
There is still a lot of fear about using .Net and the dangers with the
possibility that MS could cut off programmers. I myself don't think that
such a scenario is likely to happen, what is your take on this?


#2847 From: Matthijs ter Woord <matthijsterwoord@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20091101.EN.aspx]
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Maybe an idea to publish a blogposting/normla paper on this one?


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <Chad@...> wrote:


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Date: 22 Nov 2009 18:08:33 +0100
From: Salem5 <salem5@...>
To: chad@...

http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20091101.EN.aspx
Name: Salem5
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There is still a lot of fear about using .Net and the dangers with the
possibility that MS could cut off programmers. I myself don't think that
such a scenario is likely to happen, what is your take on this?



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#2846 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:19 am
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Date: 22 Nov 2009 18:08:33 +0100
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Name: Salem5
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There is still a lot of fear about using .Net and the dangers with the
possibility that MS could cut off programmers. I myself don't think that
such a scenario is likely to happen, what is your take on this?

#2845 From: Matthijs ter Woord <matthijsterwoord@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:39 pm
Subject: Re: Dates on the website
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Arg, crap, sorry :-)

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <Chad@...> wrote:
[01/11/2009] We're not dead! Try out the new and awesome Milestone 4!
For more info, look the Cosmos blog for the story and Release Vault for
the features.

I changed to to Nov 1. I know it was Nov 1, but Americans read month
then date, so to them it looks like Jan 11, which does make us look dead. :)

Please always use words for the month to avoid confusion, ie Nov, Dec, etc.



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#2844 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:53 am
Subject: Dates on the website
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[01/11/2009] We're not dead! Try out the new and awesome Milestone 4!
For more info, look the Cosmos blog for the story and Release Vault for
the features.

I changed to to Nov 1. I know it was Nov 1, but Americans read month
then date, so to them it looks like Jan 11, which does make us look dead. :)

Please always use words for the month to avoid confusion, ie Nov, Dec, etc.

#2843 From: "john_cena87_2004" <john_cena87_2004@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:05 pm
Subject: Update Qemu and Cygwin
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I have update QEmu to 0.11.0 and cygwin dll to the latest version.

Pleae get the latest version from Source Control explorer window (View-->Other
Windows-->Source Control Explorer). Right click on the IL2CPU server and select
Get Latest version.

NOT update only the source code, because the new version of QEmu need a fix on
MakeQEmuStep.cs I have checked-in and the older QEmu version might not work

#2842 From: "Ben Kloosterman" <bklooste@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:57 am
Subject: RE: Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
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Agree.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu
>Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:11 PM
>To: Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Cosmos-Dev] Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
>
>We dont need 486. For x86, we can safely assume min level of P3.
>
>Ben Kloosterman wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't think there are many pre Pentium machines out there . Embedded
>> systems are going ARM.
>>
>>
>>
>> In addition if we go 486 we need to support AT Bus , PIC ( instead of
>> APIC) , AGP etc . These are major differences  to get power management
>> working you need full APIC support.
>>
>>
>>
>> Considering our resources I think we should limit ourselves to PCI ,
>MMX
>>  and APIC/ACPI  at a minimum everything else is fluff.  Personally I
>> would rather have x64 support than 486 .
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *Guilherme Melo
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:54 PM
>> *To:* Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [Cosmos-Dev] Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> my best guess is that we should stick to compatibility first, then work
>> on SSE and/or x87.
>>
>>
>> On 19/11/2009 11:39, john_cena87_2004 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     well, so are you telling we must write both software, x87 and
>SSE(2)
>>     implementation and choose it by builder?
>>
>>     --- In Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com
>>     <mailto:Cosmos-Dev%40yahoogroups.com>, "john_cena87_2004"
>>     <john_cena87_2004@...> wrote:
>>      >
>>      > Float support is complete!
>>      > However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses
>>     x87 instruction set.
>>      >
>>      > Now the dilemma:
>>      >
>>      > -->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will
>>     require Pentium 4 era cpu and above
>>      >
>>      > -->it's ok x87 for double
>>      >
>>      > What is your opinion?
>>      >
>>
>>
>
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#2841 From: "Ben Kloosterman" <bklooste@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:57 am
Subject: RE: Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
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I know but we need to support APIC as PIC is useless these days ie poweroff and suspend don’t work with PIC. And APIC is nothing like the PIC (8259 if I remember right).

 

Regards,

 

Ben

 

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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:08 PM
To: Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cosmos-Dev] Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?

 

 

Ben, PIC = Programmable Interrupt Controller? We use that one already...


On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Ben Kloosterman <bklooste@...> wrote:

 

I don’t think there are many pre Pentium machines out there . Embedded systems are going ARM.

 

In addition if we go 486 we need to support AT Bus , PIC ( instead of APIC) , AGP etc . These are major differences  to get power management working you need full APIC support.

 

Considering our resources I think we should limit ourselves to PCI , MMX  and APIC/ACPI  at a minimum everything else is fluff.  Personally I would rather have x64 support than 486 .

 

Regards,

 

Ben

 

 

From: Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Guilherme Melo
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:54 PM

Subject: Re: [Cosmos-Dev] Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?

 

 


my best guess is that we should stick to compatibility first, then work on SSE and/or x87.


On 19/11/2009 11:39, john_cena87_2004 wrote:

 

well, so are you telling we must write both software, x87 and SSE(2) implementation and choose it by builder?

--- In Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com, "john_cena87_2004" <john_cena87_2004@...> wrote:
>
> Float support is complete!
> However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses x87 instruction set.
>
> Now the dilemma:
>
> -->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will require Pentium 4 era cpu and above
>
> -->it's ok x87 for double
>
> What is your opinion?
>

 

 


#2840 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:11 am
Subject: Re: Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
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We dont need 486. For x86, we can safely assume min level of P3.

Ben Kloosterman wrote:
>
>
> I don’t think there are many pre Pentium machines out there . Embedded
> systems are going ARM.
>
>
>
> In addition if we go 486 we need to support AT Bus , PIC ( instead of
> APIC) , AGP etc . These are major differences  to get power management
> working you need full APIC support.
>
>
>
> Considering our resources I think we should limit ourselves to PCI , MMX
>  and APIC/ACPI  at a minimum everything else is fluff.  Personally I
> would rather have x64 support than 486 .
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Guilherme Melo
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:54 PM
> *To:* Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Cosmos-Dev] Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> my best guess is that we should stick to compatibility first, then work
> on SSE and/or x87.
>
>
> On 19/11/2009 11:39, john_cena87_2004 wrote:
>
>
>
>     well, so are you telling we must write both software, x87 and SSE(2)
>     implementation and choose it by builder?
>
>     --- In Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:Cosmos-Dev%40yahoogroups.com>, "john_cena87_2004"
>     <john_cena87_2004@...> wrote:
>      >
>      > Float support is complete!
>      > However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses
>     x87 instruction set.
>      >
>      > Now the dilemma:
>      >
>      > -->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will
>     require Pentium 4 era cpu and above
>      >
>      > -->it's ok x87 for double
>      >
>      > What is your opinion?
>      >
>
>

#2839 From: Matthijs ter Woord <matthijsterwoord@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:08 am
Subject: Re: Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
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Ben, PIC = Programmable Interrupt Controller? We use that one already...



On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Ben Kloosterman <bklooste@...> wrote:


I don’t think there are many pre Pentium machines out there . Embedded systems are going ARM.

 

In addition if we go 486 we need to support AT Bus , PIC ( instead of APIC) , AGP etc . These are major differences  to get power management working you need full APIC support.

 

Considering our resources I think we should limit ourselves to PCI , MMX  and APIC/ACPI  at a minimum everything else is fluff.  Personally I would rather have x64 support than 486 .

 

Regards,

 

Ben

 

 

From: Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Guilherme Melo
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:54 PM

Subject: Re: [Cosmos-Dev] Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?

 

 


my best guess is that we should stick to compatibility first, then work on SSE and/or x87.


On 19/11/2009 11:39, john_cena87_2004 wrote:

 

well, so are you telling we must write both software, x87 and SSE(2) implementation and choose it by builder?

--- In Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com, "john_cena87_2004" <john_cena87_2004@...> wrote:
>
> Float support is complete!
> However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses x87 instruction set.
>
> Now the dilemma:
>
> -->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will require Pentium 4 era cpu and above
>
> -->it's ok x87 for double
>
> What is your opinion?
>





#2838 From: "Ben Kloosterman" <bklooste@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:36 am
Subject: RE: Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
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I don’t think there are many pre Pentium machines out there . Embedded systems are going ARM.

 

In addition if we go 486 we need to support AT Bus , PIC ( instead of APIC) , AGP etc . These are major differences  to get power management working you need full APIC support.

 

Considering our resources I think we should limit ourselves to PCI , MMX  and APIC/ACPI  at a minimum everything else is fluff.  Personally I would rather have x64 support than 486 .

 

Regards,

 

Ben

 

 

From: Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Guilherme Melo
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:54 PM
To: Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cosmos-Dev] Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?

 

 


my best guess is that we should stick to compatibility first, then work on SSE and/or x87.


On 19/11/2009 11:39, john_cena87_2004 wrote:

 

well, so are you telling we must write both software, x87 and SSE(2) implementation and choose it by builder?

--- In Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com, "john_cena87_2004" <john_cena87_2004@...> wrote:
>
> Float support is complete!
> However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses x87 instruction set.
>
> Now the dilemma:
>
> -->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will require Pentium 4 era cpu and above
>
> -->it's ok x87 for double
>
> What is your opinion?
>


#2837 From: "Ben Kloosterman" <bklooste@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:29 am
Subject: RE: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
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In C there is often a compile option to treat doubles as floats for extra performance.

 

Regards,

 

Ben

 

From: Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john_cena87_2004
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:40 PM
To: Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cosmos-Dev] Double support: x87 or SSE2?

 

 

Float support is complete!
However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses x87 instruction set.

Now the dilemma:

-->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will require Pentium 4 era cpu and above

-->it's ok x87 for double

What is your opinion?


#2836 From: Matthijs ter Woord <matthijsterwoord@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
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x87 should be pretty compatible..

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Guilherme Melo <lgtuito@...> wrote:



my best guess is that we should stick to compatibility first, then work on SSE and/or x87.


On 19/11/2009 11:39, john_cena87_2004 wrote:
 

well, so are you telling we must write both software, x87 and SSE(2) implementation and choose it by builder?

--- In Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com, "john_cena87_2004" <john_cena87_2004@...> wrote:
>
> Float support is complete!
> However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses x87 instruction set.
>
> Now the dilemma:
>
> -->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will require Pentium 4 era cpu and above
>
> -->it's ok x87 for double
>
> What is your opinion?
>





#2835 From: Guilherme Melo <lgtuito@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:54 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
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my best guess is that we should stick to compatibility first, then work on SSE and/or x87.


On 19/11/2009 11:39, john_cena87_2004 wrote:
 

well, so are you telling we must write both software, x87 and SSE(2) implementation and choose it by builder?

--- In Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com, "john_cena87_2004" <john_cena87_2004@...> wrote:
>
> Float support is complete!
> However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses x87 instruction set.
>
> Now the dilemma:
>
> -->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will require Pentium 4 era cpu and above
>
> -->it's ok x87 for double
>
> What is your opinion?
>


#2834 From: Matthijs ter Woord <matthijsterwoord@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
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The embedded system arguments is not really valid: the current implementation only talks about the X86 platform. For that I say X87 for now, as using SSE2 is an optimization, we'll get to that later on..



On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:39 PM, john_cena87_2004 <john_cena87_2004@...> wrote:
well, so are you telling we must write both software, x87 and SSE(2) implementation and choose it by builder?


--- In Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com, "john_cena87_2004" <john_cena87_2004@...> wrote:
>
> Float support is complete!
> However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses x87 instruction set.
>
> Now the dilemma:
>
> -->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will require Pentium 4 era cpu and above
>
> -->it's ok x87 for double
>
> What is your opinion?
>




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#2833 From: "john_cena87_2004" <john_cena87_2004@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:39 pm
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well, so are you telling we must write both software, x87 and SSE(2)
implementation and choose it by builder?


--- In Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com, "john_cena87_2004" <john_cena87_2004@...>
wrote:
>
> Float support is complete!
> However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses x87 instruction
set.
>
> Now the dilemma:
>
> -->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will require
Pentium 4 era cpu and above
>
> -->it's ok x87 for double
>
> What is your opinion?
>

#2832 From: Guilherme Melo <lgtuito@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:28 pm
Subject: Re: R: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
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Cosmos should use SSE when available (for intel-arch), or sofware implementation otherwise.

for using with embedded systems, i think SSE isn't available.

On 19/11/2009 10:57, IGNOTO IGNOTO wrote:
 

ah. However SSE advantages are not fully utlized, like packed calculation..even if there are those opcodes. Should we use it?

--- Gio 19/11/09, john_cena87_2004 <john_cena87_2004@yahoo.it> ha scritto:

Da: john_cena87_2004 <john_cena87_2004@yahoo.it>
Oggetto: [Cosmos-Dev] Double support: x87 or SSE2?
A: Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com
Data: Giovedì 19 novembre 2009, 13:39

 
Float support is complete!
However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses x87 instruction set.

Now the dilemma:

-->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will require Pentium 4 era cpu and above

-->it's ok x87 for double

What is your opinion?



#2831 From: IGNOTO IGNOTO <john_cena87_2004@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:57 pm
Subject: R: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
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ah. However SSE advantages are not fully utlized, like packed calculation..even if there are those opcodes. Should we use it?

--- Gio 19/11/09, john_cena87_2004 <john_cena87_2004@...> ha scritto:

Da: john_cena87_2004 <john_cena87_2004@...>
Oggetto: [Cosmos-Dev] Double support: x87 or SSE2?
A: Cosmos-Dev@yahoogroups.com
Data: Giovedì 19 novembre 2009, 13:39

 
Float support is complete!
However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses x87 instruction set.

Now the dilemma:

-->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will require Pentium 4 era cpu and above

-->it's ok x87 for double

What is your opinion?



#2830 From: "john_cena87_2004" <john_cena87_2004@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:39 pm
Subject: Double support: x87 or SSE2?
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Float support is complete!
However, while SSE accelerates float arithmetics, doubles uses x87 instruction
set.

Now the dilemma:

-->Should I convert double support using SSE2 and so Cosmos will require Pentium
4 era cpu and above

-->it's ok x87 for double

What is your opinion?

#2829 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Fwd: New Issue: IL2CPU.Assembler.ProcessField failed [Cosmos: 9188]]
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its from CP.. you can reply to thim there.

Matthijs ter Woord wrote:
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> ask for a small sample snippet..
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> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <Chad@...
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>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject:        New Issue: IL2CPU.Assembler.ProcessField failed
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>     Date:   14 Nov 2009 07:12:02 -0800
>     From:   notifications@... <mailto:notifications@...>
>     To:     chad@... <mailto:chad@...>
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>     User br_chiang <http://www.codeplex.com/site/users/view/br_chiang
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>     Marshal.ReadByte(xValue, x);" statement (Source version 46057,
>     Assembler.cs, Line 674, Col 21) has thrown an ArgumentException:
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>     Any one experienced the problem during building?"
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#2828 From: Matthijs ter Woord <matthijsterwoord@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: [Fwd: New Issue: IL2CPU.Assembler.ProcessField failed [Cosmos: 9188]]
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ask for a small sample snippet..

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <Chad@...> wrote:


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Subject:        New Issue: IL2CPU.Assembler.ProcessField failed [Cosmos: 9188]
Date:   14 Nov 2009 07:12:02 -0800
From:   notifications@...
To:     chad@...



User br_chiang <http://www.codeplex.com/site/users/view/br_chiang> has
proposed the new Issue: IL2CPU.Assembler.ProcessField failed.

"When I was building a [clean] (just copied from CodePlex) source code,
it failed on Cosmos Builder, tracing indicated the "xData[x] =
Marshal.ReadByte(xValue, x);" statement (Source version 46057,
Assembler.cs, Line 674, Col 21) has thrown an ArgumentException:
P/Invoke convertion does not exist when passing value to Object-typed
parameter (or something else like that).

Any one experienced the problem during building?"

View the full issue online
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#2827 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:20 pm
Subject: [Fwd: New Issue: IL2CPU.Assembler.ProcessField failed [Cosmos: 9188]]
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  New Issue: IL2CPU.Assembler.ProcessField failed [Cosmos: 9188]
Date:  14 Nov 2009 07:12:02 -0800
From:  notifications@...
To:  chad@...



User br_chiang <http://www.codeplex.com/site/users/view/br_chiang> has
proposed the new Issue: IL2CPU.Assembler.ProcessField failed.

"When I was building a [clean] (just copied from CodePlex) source code,
it failed on Cosmos Builder, tracing indicated the "xData[x] =
Marshal.ReadByte(xValue, x);" statement (Source version 46057,
Assembler.cs, Line 674, Col 21) has thrown an ArgumentException:
P/Invoke convertion does not exist when passing value to Object-typed
parameter (or something else like that).

Any one experienced the problem during building?"

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#2826 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:24 am
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [syslinux] Syslinux set vesa mode]
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [syslinux] Syslinux set vesa mode
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:29:16 -0800
From: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...>
To: For discussion of Syslinux and tftp-hpa <syslinux@...>
CC: Chad@..., matthijsterwoord@...
References:
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<4AFC2949.7060102@...> <4AFC2CA7.3090201@...>
<935591170911120847p301f9ab7q9d4e6906e48f050@...>
<4AFCF864.3020708@...>
<935591170911130017w1c75aba4xd0896d9b455963e6@...>
<4AFD1A8B.7000402@...>
<935591170911130237k3ffb634cyb47373b0ba5d02cc@...>
<4AFD95E4.5090601@...> <4AFDCCF6.4030004@...>

On 11/13/2009 01:17 PM, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote:
> I'm asking. :)

Okay, this has been implemented *but not tested*.

Grab 3.84-pre2 or the git tree and test it out for me, please.

	 -hpa

--
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I work for Intel.  I don't speak on their behalf.

#2825 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:12 pm
Subject: [Fwd: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20091101.EN.aspx]
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20091101.EN.aspx
Date: 13 Nov 2009 00:19:32 +0100
From: jdomz <justchat_1@...>
To: chad@...

http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20091101.EN.aspx
Name: jdomz
Email: justchat_1@...
URL:
Wow very impressive!!  i would love to help out turning this basic
support into higher level graphics-> Any chance image support will be
added?  Maybe (http://freeimage.sourceforge.net/)?

Will also be joining the mailing list :)

#2824 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:43 pm
Subject: [Fwd: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20090520.EN.aspx]
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20090520.EN.aspx
Date: 11 Nov 2009 13:55:11 +0100
From: Tomi <tomijrinne@...>
To: chad@...

http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20090520.EN.aspx
Name: Tomi
Email: tomijrinne@...
URL: http://domiser.co.cc
Hi guys! You should make a package what keeps anykind of tutorials and
demos inside of it. Not just a devkit.
Greetings from Finland!

#2823 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:43 pm
Subject: [Fwd: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20090520.EN.aspx]
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20090520.EN.aspx
Date: 11 Nov 2009 14:03:08 +0100
From: Tomi <tomijrinne@...>
To: chad@...

http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20090520.EN.aspx
Name: Tomi
Email: tomijrinne@...
URL: http://domiser.co.cc
By the way, is possible to run .com or .bat -console programs inside of
this?

#2822 From: "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <Chad@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:06 pm
Subject: [Fwd: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20091101.EN.aspx]
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Comment] http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20091101.EN.aspx
Date: 10 Nov 2009 17:02:00 +0100
From: noobzor <ainhee22@...>
To: chad@...

http://www.gocosmos.org/Blog/20091101.EN.aspx
Name: noobzor
Email: ainhee22@...
URL:
Hi,

I would like to join the team on developing the OS. I am willing to
spend my time on developing the project. As of the moment I have no
work/job so I want to dedicate all my time and knowledge on the said
project. I have a strong knowledge on C# and WPF so that won't be
problem to me.

Thanks

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