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Re: [DIYGasTurbines] bearing problem

Hi Chris

This might help explain whats going on ........
http://rodyn-inc.com/ISCORMA3_Gunter&Chen_TurbochargerVer2.pdf :-)

Cheers
John


----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Krug
To: DIYGasTurbines@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:23 AM
Subject: RE: [DIYGasTurbines] bearing problem





Hi John,

They're hydrodynamic bearings.

Dan- Giving the bearings their own cooled oil supply sounds like a good
idea.

The class he runs has to use a specific turbo, the people who make the
turbo, Precision Turbo, forbid him to look inside the turbo to see what's
wrong, they said they would cut him off if he got caught taking one apart. I
know he's getting that turbo really hot, maybe he's coking it up.

My friend wants to convert the turbo to ball bearings, is this practical?

Chris

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From: DIYGasTurbines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DIYGasTurbines@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of John WALLIS (Racketmotorman)
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:49 PM
To: DIYGasTurbines@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DIYGasTurbines] bearing problem

Hi Chris

What sort of bearings , brass bushes or balls ??

Cheers
John

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Krug
To: DIYGasTurbines@ <mailto:DIYGasTurbines%40yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:36 AM
Subject: [DIYGasTurbines] bearing problem

A friend of mine runs a small block ford with a 94mm Precision Turbo. He
gets 7 runs out of it, while it's blazing fast, almost 200 mph in the ¼,
he's only getting 7 runs before the bearings in the turbo are shot. Any
ideas?

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A friend of mine runs a small block ford with a 94mm Precision Turbo. He gets 7 runs out of it, while it’s blazing fast, almost 200 mph in the ¼, he’s...
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Hi Chris What sort of bearings , brass bushes or balls ?? Cheers John ... From: Chris Krug To: DIYGasTurbines@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:36...
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Hi John, They’re hydrodynamic bearings. Dan- Giving the bearings their own cooled oil supply sounds like a good idea. The class he runs has to use a specific...
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Sounds like a ploy to sell a bunch of junk torbos to a select fiew . They must of had good connections with the race organizers to be the only ones to be able...
Marshall Piper
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Jun 29, 2009
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he needs oil flow and cooling before and after the run - install a water tank and pump and oil to water intercooler and a seperate oil supply and pump and keep...
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Jun 28, 2009
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practical? as in 'can it be done?' sure, but will he gain anything? no. go to www.mcmaster.com to get temperature indicating paint stickers.  they have dots...
Dan hatfield
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Jun 28, 2009
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Yes but from my short experience with mobil jet 2 oil i wouldn't suggest trying that as the oil really thins out when hot i couldn't keep 40 psi when hot but...
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Jun 29, 2009
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Hi Chris Mmmm...... hydro bearings shouldn't give problems after such a short time :-(( his total run time would be only several minutes with ~1 minute...
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Jun 28, 2009
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what do you call "hot"? here, thin viscosity and high flow rate (30 gallons per minute?) are to increase cooling...
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My "hot"was only 150deg F . Yes in a true jet i could see high flows needed for cooling as evreything is put together pretty tight . 30 gpm is a pretty serious...
Marshall Piper
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Jun 29, 2009
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Hi Marshall Yep, turbine oil is for turbines , turbochargers are designed for engine oil lubrication , no use wasting good money on anything else . Cheers John...
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Hi Dan Even turbine engine oil shouldn't have "bulk temperatures" of more than ~300 deg F , its only rated to 400 deg F , even though some bearing temps can...
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we are talking about a turbocharger in a drag racer producing boost well above 1 bar that is burning itself out after about 10 to 15 minutes run time (seven...
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Hi Dan LOL......... only 1 bar , kids stuff , ...........my bike can pull around 3 bar ( 4: 1 PR) with ITTs of >1400F...
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Hi Chris This might help explain whats going on ........ http://rodyn-inc.com/ISCORMA3_Gunter&Chen_TurbochargerVer2.pdf :-) Cheers John ... From: Chris...
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