>
> r>> If you bring up the preferences,
> r>> there's a box blob over the files menu choice.
> r>> Although, you could change colors and modify things ok.
> r>
> r> This on the other side shouldn't happen.
> r> Jody designed the prefs-requester to work with V41 classact
> r> and for 2.7 I only remove some minor things
> r> as well as localising it.
> r> Does the 2.6 prefs-requester work for you?

Ok, I don't have classact installed. I got the file off Aminet, and
there are two of them MUI and (something). Which should I install?

Hello!

> Also, does anyone else not have a vertical
> scroller in the command windows?

That's not a bug, that's on purpose. :-)

> r> Damn, I hate it, Classact/Reaction really was a pile of bugs.
>
> Also confirmed. ;-)

Too bad, it's almost working for OS4. :-)

> r>> Thanks for all your hard work! You rock dude!
> r>
> r> Not my hard work all alone, I had and have some help.
>
> But you still rock. :-)

Pah, I am pretty sure there are several who are way more qualified
for the job - it's only that I am doing it. :-)

And not to forget that your work with the prefs-requester showed me
how easy it is to bring up a Reaction GUI that looks nice.
Putting it to use in DM2 took more time. :-)

> r> And if Jody does not come up with something I missed,
> r> I am afraid that I am running out of options.
>
> Nothing to suggest yet, although I hope to have free time this
> weekend.

I should have time this weekend as well.

> My first guess is that msgs from the lister gadgets aren't being
> received (or understood).  I don't see why they wouldn't be,
> however...

I am a little puzzled as well.
About the only thing OS4 specific in the input-handling
is the mousewheel support and this is encapsulated in
an "ifdef" statement so it's not even compiled into the 68k version.

But it may possible that I missed something on the way,
something that should be encapsulated as well but is not.

Regards - Rudolph

Hi!

On 13-Feb-07, rudolph.riedel@... wrote:
r>> I gave it a test try and it didn't work too good. Commands wouldn't
r>> function, and clicking on directories or files in the listers wouldn't
r>> result in any action happening.

   I can confirm this.  Also, does anyone else not have a vertical scroller
in the command windows?


r> Damn, I hate it, Classact/Reaction really was a pile of bugs.

   Also confirmed. ;-)


r>> If you bring up the preferences,
r>> there's a box blob over the files menu choice.
r>> Although, you could change colors and modify things ok.
r>
r> This on the other side shouldn't happen.
r> Jody designed the prefs-requester to work with V41 classact
r> and for 2.7 I only remove some minor things
r> as well as localising it.
r> Does the 2.6 prefs-requester work for you?

   It looks okay here.  Can you send a screenshot?  I remember an old bug
where the box that displays the currently selected color (on the "Colors"
page) would always appear around the tabs.  I wonder if that's happenning
again somehow?


r>> Interesting new look though. It runs a tad slower on my A3000,
r>
r> I am afraid that this is the price of comfort, so to say.
r> But it shouldn't be that obvious unless your A3000
r> is using a 68000/7MHz.
r>
r>> and with the little boxes that the commands are in, the fonts don't
r> fit so
r>> good. Guess I need a better font to go with it.
r>
r> Hrmm, the buttons adapt to the font-size, the fonts should fit in any
r> case.

   Fonts are working here.


r>> Thanks for all your hard work! You rock dude!
r>
r> Not my hard work all alone, I had and have some help.

   But you still rock. :-)


r> And if Jody does not come up with something I missed,
r> I am afraid that I am running out of options.

   Nothing to suggest yet, although I hope to have free time this weekend.
My first guess is that msgs from the lister gadgets aren't being received
(or understood).  I don't see why they wouldn't be, however...

--
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jodytierney@...
http://home.earthlink.net/~jodytierney

--- In DM2-Forum@yahoogroups.com, "rudolph.riedel@..."
<rudolph.riedel@...> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> > > Does the 2.6 prefs-requester work for you?
> >
> > I haven't tried it yet, but I might as well do that tonight.
>
> Oh, if not 2.6 you should at least use 2.5.30.
>

Pardon my confusion with all the various releases. I've been using
2.1c for a loooong time, just discovered the DM2 website, and
downloaded one of the newer version and installed it without
remembering which version. It was 2.5.30c, and I couldn't find a
prefs requester, not like 2.7. The menu functions work fine in
modifying things. But I really like how you set up the prefs-
requester, and if you can get the commands and lister to work,
wonderfull!

>
> While using DiskMaster2 at least 2.5.30 should be faster than 2.1c.
> Reading directories definately is but it only is noticeable
> with lots of files.
> With 2.6 I changed the text-rendering in the dir-listers in
preparation
> to use proportional fonts which maybe made things a little slower.
>
> Regards - Rudolph
>

Ah! Is that why this happened? I was moving some files off a CD, and
3/4 of the way through, it choked and wouldn't move the rest. I had
to re-highlight the remaining files and it moved them fine. Is there
a limit to the number of files you can copy or move in 2.5.30? Or is
there a setting to increase the amount allowed? I don't remember any
problems in 2.1c as to the amount of files you can manipulate.

Thanks.

Andrew

Hi!

> > Does the 2.6 prefs-requester work for you?
>
> I haven't tried it yet, but I might as well do that tonight.

Oh, if not 2.6 you should at least use 2.5.30.

> > > Interesting new look though. It runs a tad slower on my A3000,
> >
> > I am afraid that this is the price of comfort, so to say.
> > But it shouldn't be that obvious unless your A3000
> > is using a 68000/7MHz.
> >
> No, its got the 3640 and 8megs of ram, so its middling. Its just the
> difference between 2.1 and 2.7, whereas 2.1 pops up imediately,
> whereas 2.7 loaded slowly. But, whats a second or two between friends?
> 8) The speed at which it lists the contents in the lister is still
> darn good.

Phew, I thought you were referring to  the speed while using it.
Yes, if not in memory already, 2.7 (and 2.6 / 2.5.30) has to load
several additional components compared with 2.1c.
It may not even be possible to really squeeze 2.6 on a disk
with all the other components needed.
Upto 2.5.30 DiskMaster2 mostly relies on what can be found
in the ROMs, well, preferably the 3.1 ROMs.
In return DiskMaster2 for example is localised and can be iconified.

While using DiskMaster2 at least 2.5.30 should be faster than 2.1c.
Reading directories definately is but it only is noticeable
with lots of files.
With 2.6 I changed the text-rendering in the dir-listers in preparation
to use proportional fonts which maybe made things a little slower.

Regards - Rudolph

...no text... :-)

>
> This on the other side shouldn't happen.
> Jody designed the prefs-requester to work with V41 classact
> and for 2.7 I only remove some minor things
> as well as localising it.
> Does the 2.6 prefs-requester work for you?
>

I haven't tried it yet, but I might as well do that tonight.

> > Interesting new look though. It runs a tad slower on my A3000,
>
> I am afraid that this is the price of comfort, so to say.
> But it shouldn't be that obvious unless your A3000
> is using a 68000/7MHz.
>
No, its got the 3640 and 8megs of ram, so its middling. Its just the
difference between 2.1 and 2.7, whereas 2.1 pops up imediately,
whereas 2.7 loaded slowly. But, whats a second or two between friends?
8) The speed at which it lists the contents in the lister is still
darn good.

Hi!

> I gave it a test try and it didn't work too good. Commands wouldn't
> function, and clicking on directories or files in the listers wouldn't
> result in any action happening.

Damn, I hate it, Classact/Reaction really was a pile of bugs.

> If you bring up the preferences,
> there's a box blob over the files menu choice.
> Although, you could change colors and modify things ok.

This on the other side shouldn't happen.
Jody designed the prefs-requester to work with V41 classact
and for 2.7 I only remove some minor things
as well as localising it.
Does the 2.6 prefs-requester work for you?

> Interesting new look though. It runs a tad slower on my A3000,

I am afraid that this is the price of comfort, so to say.
But it shouldn't be that obvious unless your A3000
is using a 68000/7MHz.

> and with the little boxes that the commands are in, the fonts don't
fit so
> good. Guess I need a better font to go with it.

Hrmm, the buttons adapt to the font-size, the fonts should fit in any
case.

> Thanks for all your hard work! You rock dude!

Not my hard work all alone, I had and have some help.

And if Jody does not come up with something I missed,
I am afraid that I am running out of options.
Okay, a small service-release to 2.6 could be done
but most of the new code in 2.7 was for Reaction anyways.

In addition I also checked MUI again and was a bit suprised
to see that the lister-class only supports a single scroller-bar.
Strange.
Well, I still do not like MUI, just beeing a little desperate.

What we all need is affordable and available new OS4 hardware...

Regards - Rudolph

Hi Rudolph.

I gave it a test try and it didn't work too good. Commands wouldn't
function, and clicking on directories or files in the listers wouldn't
result in any action happening. If you bring up the preferences,
there's a box blob over the files menu choice. Although, you could
change colors and modify things ok.

Interesting new look though. It runs a tad slower on my A3000, and
with the little boxes that the commands are in, the fonts don't fit so
good. Guess I need a better font to go with it.

Thanks for all your hard work! You rock dude!

Andrew

--- In DM2-Forum@yahoogroups.com, "rudolph.riedel@..."
<rudolph.riedel@...> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> > I don't know if I have them, but I'll test it out.
>
> What system do you have then?
>
> Regards - Rudolph
>
amiga3000D, OS3.5 with boing bags, 3640"accelerator".

On 10-Feb-07, rudolph.riedel@... wrote:

> This is very bad, looks like the classes got thru a lot of changes.
> :-(

> Thanks for testing!

> Anyone with OS 3.9?

Just to be sure, this is 2.7b10.

Basically, severely broken. At first I thought my old config was the
problem, so renamed it and rebooted. At least the buttons look nice!
(Hey! A real Prefs window, too!)

Nothing is active, command buttons or listers. I can select files, but
not enter directories or make any action upon files. Menus are working,
though. (I'll have to test if a menu command can be used, with 'Copy'
for example, to see if the selection is actually being read.)

If Ingo means sorting by date, etc. I can report that at least this
works from the menu here.

Not sure what you need to know about classes, mine are all from OS3.9
Update 2 (if updated). For instance:

listbrowser.gadget 45.12

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> > I put a test-version of 2.7 for 68k online:
> >
> > http://kazong.privat.t-online.de/DiskMaster2.7_68k_test.lha
>
> thanks for doing that.

I am trying to hold on to the promise I made that I won't
stop releasing for 68k that easily.

I'm not sure what I would have done if I knew what I ran into.
It's not like there are lots of alternatives for GUI toolkits.
And the seemingly most popular - MUI - I like the least.
Not that there is any updated SDK around, only old 3.8 stuff.

> I've done some tests under MorphOS, and selecting any entry doesn't
> have any impact, files/directories are not being recognised as
> selected, and sorting doesn't work, too. I'm using listbrowser.gadget
> 42.632.

This is very bad, looks like the classes got thru a lot of changes. :-(
Thanks for testing!

Anyone with OS 3.9?

Regards - Rudolph

Hello!

> I don't know if I have them, but I'll test it out.

What system do you have then?

Regards - Rudolph

Hi!

> > Replaced it again, the window-title information works now.
>
> I'm going to wait another half-hour, to see what you replace it with!
>
> ;-)

That will be it for now. :-)

I just tried to downgrade my system.
But there is no way to make it clean without re-installing the system.

Regards - Rudolph

> >
> > Can anyone with V41 or V42 classes confirm this?
>
> I replaced it again and this time I added a workaround for
> the double-click bug that does seem to work rightaway.
>
> Please have a test with it and report any odd things.
>
> If this works out as smooth as it currently seems to go
> the next release will feature a 68k version again.
>
> Regards - Rudolph
>
I don't know if I have them, but I'll test it out.

Looks like I am moving too fast... :-)

> I put a test-version of 2.7 for 68k online:
>
> http://kazong.privat.t-online.de/DiskMaster2.7_68k_test.lha
>
> Unfortunately my system is not clean enough to test it
> properly myself, I have too many components from OS4 installed
> although every single one is way outdated by now.
>
> With ListBrowser.gadget 50.13 from 2004 however I can verify
> a problem that got fixed for the later OS4 versions,
> double-click on the typ of list required for DiskMaster2
> does not work properly.
>
> I only get double-clicks when selecting an already selected entry.
> So one has to make tripple-clicks on not selected entries to
> switch the directory for example.
>
> Can anyone with V41 or V42 classes confirm this?

I replaced it again and this time I added a workaround for
the double-click bug that does seem to work rightaway.

Please have a test with it and report any odd things.

If this works out as smooth as it currently seems to go
the next release will feature a 68k version again.

Regards - Rudolph

On 10-Feb-07, rudolph.riedel@... wrote:

> Replaced it again, the window-title information works now.

I'm going to wait another half-hour, to see what you replace it with!

;-)

--
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Hi Rudolph,

> I put a test-version of 2.7 for 68k online:
>
> http://kazong.privat.t-online.de/DiskMaster2.7_68k_test.lha

thanks for doing that.

> With ListBrowser.gadget 50.13 from 2004 however I can verify
> a problem that got fixed for the later OS4 versions,
> double-click on the typ of list required for DiskMaster2
> does not work properly.
>
> I only get double-clicks when selecting an already selected entry.
> So one has to make tripple-clicks on not selected entries to
> switch the directory for example.

I've done some tests under MorphOS, and selecting any entry doesn't have any
impact, files/directories are not being recognised as selected, and sorting
doesn't work, too. I'm using listbrowser.gadget 42.632.

--
Bis die Tage / See you,
Ingo Schmitz

Looks like I am moving too fast... :-)

> I put a test-version of 2.7 for 68k online:
>
> http://kazong.privat.t-online.de/DiskMaster2.7_68k_test.lha
>
> Unfortunately my system is not clean enough to test it
> properly myself, I have too many components from OS4 installed
> although every single one is way outdated by now.
>
> With ListBrowser.gadget 50.13 from 2004 however I can verify
> a problem that got fixed for the later OS4 versions,
> double-click on the typ of list required for DiskMaster2
> does not work properly.
>
> I only get double-clicks when selecting an already selected entry.
> So one has to make tripple-clicks on not selected entries to
> switch the directory for example.
>
> Can anyone with V41 or V42 classes confirm this?

I replaced it again and this time I added a workaround for
the double-click bug that does seem to work rightaway.

Please have a test with it and report any odd things.

If this works out as smooth as it currently seems to go
the next release will feature a 68k version again.

Regards - Rudolph

> I put a test-version of 2.7 for 68k online:
>
> http://kazong.privat.t-online.de/DiskMaster2.7_68k_test.lha

Replaced it again, the window-title information works now.

Regards - Rudolph

DM2-Forum@yahoogroups.com wrote on 10.02.2007:

> I put a test-version of 2.7 for 68k online:
>
> http://kazong.privat.t-online.de/DiskMaster2.7_68k_test.lha

Just replaced it again, repairing the render-hook was
easier than I thought it would.

Regards - Rudolph

Hi!

I put a test-version of 2.7 for 68k online:

http://kazong.privat.t-online.de/DiskMaster2.7_68k_test.lha

Unfortunately my system is not clean enough to test it
properly myself, I have too many components from OS4 installed
although every single one is way outdated by now.

It should come up normally except that the dir-entries all have
the same color.
This should be something minor, for some reason the render-hook
to fix that does not work anymore - for OS4 this hook is not needed.

With ListBrowser.gadget 50.13 from 2004 however I can verify
a problem that got fixed for the later OS4 versions,
double-click on the typ of list required for DiskMaster2
does not work properly.

I only get double-clicks when selecting an already selected entry.
So one has to make tripple-clicks on not selected entries to
switch the directory for example.

Can anyone with V41 or V42 classes confirm this?

Regards - Rudolph

Rudolph Riedel wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> > Unfortunately, I have not had an Amiga set up for a long time. These
> > days I just do not have the time and energy.
> > I am looking forward to the day I can get my A1 set up again and have
> > Diskmaster working on it.
>
> Not even to check out what OS4 is like now?
I certainly would like to see how OS4 has progressed. I thought was
fantastic with the first release.
Life does come first though. I need to clear some space when I have the
energy and time.

--- In DM2-Forum@yahoogroups.com, Rudolph Riedel
<Rudolph.Riedel@...> wrote:
>
> Which version of DM2 is this then?
>
> Easy:
>
> makedir ram:env
> assign env: ram:env
>
> Better - get env-handler from Aminet and install it, takes more
space on
> the disk though.
> It certainly saved my day a couple of times when I still used my
A1200.
> But I could not even read the disks anymore I prepared back then,
> if they are still readable at all.
>
> My config in the archive has some lines for LZX.
> Auto-commands as well as menu-entries.
>
> No, not really, LZX is dead for years now, no-one should use it
> for anything else than un-archiving.
> The new LHA versions are nice, don't know if there is any 68k one
of 2.12
> though.
>
Thank you! I seem to be luckier with my disks. You must live in an
area with high humidity. Quite a number of my old disks are still
quite functional surprisingly. Original DeluxePaint, orginal
Imagine3D, Grabbit, WB1.1 and 1.2, etc. I can't put Env Handler on
this disk, there's only 3k left.

Yes, I took a look at your startup scripts, and there's stuff I can
use, but I'd prefer to know how it does what it does. That'll take
awhile. Little time in the evening.

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, Richard Mattsson wrote:

RM >On 04-Feb-07, Patrick Wesseling wrote:
RM >
RM >> But DM2 is THE tool. C'mon everyone, drop a mail to show you're
RM >> here.
RM >
RM >Here!
RM >
RM >It's worth saying, maybe it's something wired wrong in my brain, but DM
RM >still feels like the 'real' interface. I've said it before, but when I
RM >was first introduced to DM (it may have been 1.2) my friend said, "now
RM >you see beyond the veil of icons" in response to my enthusiasm. It
RM >always felt a little like the 'jacked in' environment in Neuromancer or
RM >being able to see reality beyond the mere transitory physical universe.
RM >(Ahem... no, just one beer, actually.) Workbench just gets in the way.
RM >
RM >I'm using Amithlon almost all the time. Bought a Mac Mini which I really
RM >like, but the weakness is the desktop, and I haven't cared to learn much
RM >about the shell. I need an OS X DiskMaster! Also using Win98 for a lot,
RM >video mostly, but it's an alternative, not primary.

A linux diskmaster should port easily to OSX.  I have been learning perl
Tk which is a graphical interface tool kit which works on OSX, Linux and
even Windoze (at least WinXP and earlier).


RM >
RM >DM, for me, is still such an amazing exercise in modularity. Where
RM >*I've* lost the energy is to go back and clean up my DM config - I have
RM >lots of scripts which open command windows that no longer do anything
RM >useful, and I never formed a unified theory of organizing menus,
RM >cascading command windows, etc. (There's one of my favorite things to do
RM >with DM... command button which opens a new command window for further
RM >options.)
RM >
RM >I still use that last feature I requested many, many times every day.
RM >(Shift-select to a range of files - set to MMB here.)
RM >
RM >--
RM >Richard Mattsson - http://www.kiva.net/~mattsson/
RM >Audio Video Art -- http://www.audiovideoart.com
RM >
RM >

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On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Bart Mathias wrote:

BM >On 02/04/2007, Patrick Wesseling wrote:
BM >
BM >> [...]  C'mon everyone, drop a mail
BM >> to show you're here.
BM >
BM >OK.
BM >
BM >I didn't start using DM until 1987, but since then I have probably used it
BM >and DM2--currently the OS4 version--more than I use Workbench.
BM >

That is the same for me. The closest I can get to DM2 on the linux side of
my dual boot system is something called Midnite Commnader (Gnome
Commander) at its derivatives and it is not nearly as good as DM2.

All Hail - DM2 the king of file handling programs!


BM >Bart Mathias
BM >

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On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, rudolph.riedel@... wrote:

r >Hi!
r >
r >> Wow. Not too many posts these days! I guess DM is such a perfect
r >> program that nobody needs any help. 8)
r >
r >Well, there are 56 subscriptions to this list, quite some set to "No
r >Email"
r >now and a few even bouncing.
r >And then I can build DiskMaster 2.7 on my Amithlon system,
r >it does not work properly for 68k with the old classes though.
r >
r >The 166 individuals who downloaded the OS4 version from
r >OS4-depot hardly give me any feedback either though.
r >
r >Maybe it's time to close this list and move over to a
r >support-board at www.amigans.net.
r >

I prefer the e-mail list. I find it a lot easier to use than support
boards since I do not have to log into it to read or write messages
only open the email program.

However the program works well.

The thing I would like is some sort of sequential image viewer as in
linux, where you bring up the first image in a series and there is a
next button on the viewer so you can move to the next image which
replaces the one you are looking at without your having to close that
one. With Amithlon when looking at too many pictures at a time, which can
happen if you highlight a bunch of them in multiview, you can crash the
machine, plus you have to close each one down.



r >> DM is the program I've been using since I've had an Amiga, all the way
r >> back in the 90's, and before when my Brother had a disk based A500.
r >
r >Same here, it has been almost ten years now since I took over.
r >
r >> However, never had a manual, and was somewhat intimidated by trying to
r >> modify the command strip and menus, which would make my work more
r >> satisfying.
r >
r >That's pretty much how I started.
r >I was lucky enogh though to buy an original online in 1997 or so.
r >
r >> I also have a problem with a system disk I set up with a version 1.x
r >> of DM so I had a self booting disk by which I could fix problems
r >> during HD crashes. I put a newer version of DM on it, and it won't
r >> boot because it asks for something I can't find. I'll be back with
r >> details.
r >
r >Check my homepage:
r >
r >http://kazong.privat.t-online.de/archive.html
r >
r >The last Kickstart 1.3 version was 2.2b2,
r >the second I ever released back in march 1997.
r >And it should start with nothing else on the disk although
r >having "only" basic functionality.
r >
r >The last version that works with Kickstart 2.0 is 2.5.30a.
r >I'm not so sure if this one starts from a clean disk.
r >
r >Well, I am not using any disks here at all for longer than I can tell.
r >I could boot both my Amithlon-System and my AmigaOne from CD,
r >my AmigaOne does not even have a disk-driver, never had.
r >
r >And my interest in retro-computing is very little I have to admit.
r >
r >Hmm, which reminds me of my unfinished C64DTV project. :-)
r >
r >Regards - Rudolph
r >
r >
r >
r >

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