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#9543 From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:08 pm
Subject: Re: Natural Pest Control 		cd_townson
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These are pretty tough birds!  I'm not sure however, so hopefully someone in your area will respond with 1st hand knowledge.

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Grasspack@... <Grasspack@...> wrote:

From: Grasspack@... <Grasspack@...>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 9:49 PM

 
Hello,

Does anyone know how the Muscovys do in the winter?  I have wanted some for awhile, but wasn't sure how they would handle the N.H. winters.  

Thanks
Alice


-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, Nov 14, 2009 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Hi Charles,

Do you know anyone in Missouri that I can buy some Muscovy Ducks from?

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 AM



They will be fine without a pond at all.  If your pasture is about 8 acres, start with 6 or 8 ducks and see what difference they make. 
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:27 PM

 
My husband says our pond is only 1/16 of an acre. Its a small pond in about 8 acres. How many ducks would we need, given that information, to make a difference in the fly problem?

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:44 PM



I doubt it.  We leave our Muscovy ducks intact - they can fly well.  We have about a 4 acre pond.  I see them walking up every morning and they go into the pasture.  Then, at evening I see them fly back down to the pond.  They won't totally eliminate the flies, but they make a difference.  We have about 10 Muscovy ducks right now for about 12 acres of pasture.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:39 PM

 
We have a llama out with our Dexters. Do you think the lama would hurt the Muscovy Ducks? We do have a pond for the ducks.

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:20 PM



I don't know about dung beetles.  Jeffer's Livestock advertises some natural predators for flies - you might check that out.  We use Muscovy ducks in our pastures.  They do a pretty good job of picking apart cow piles and reducing flies.  You can find Muscovy ducks most places - try craigslist, etc.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:12 PM

 
Hi Ronda

Don't know if you use chemical wormers.
I don't, but the use of some chemical wormer' s can kill dung beetles. 
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: rusty_toadfrog <rthiessen@howardele ctricwb.com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:45:38 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Does anyone know of a source where I could obtain dung beetles that would survive Missouri winters? Or is there a way to encourage growth of the population that we have. We have dung beetles on our property but there are not enough to take care of the cow pies fast enough so that the flies do not get to hatch. I did some internet searches and cannot find where to obtain them. Any ideas? We use Cydectin for worming which is not supposed to hurt the beetle population.
Thanks,
Ronda












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#9542 From: "lrininger" <lrininger@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:50 am
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Hey,
region 10, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, I started a face book page to keep up with
the happenings on our region. It is open to all others, but special interest to
region 10, please tell all your friends.

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#9541 From: Grasspack@...
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:49 am
Subject: Re: Natural Pest Control 		petieconure
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Hello,

Does anyone know how the Muscovys do in the winter?  I have wanted some for awhile, but wasn't sure how they would handle the N.H. winters.  

Thanks
Alice


-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@...>
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Nov 14, 2009 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Hi Charles,

Do you know anyone in Missouri that I can buy some Muscovy Ducks from?

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A-Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWelshPonies.com


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 AM



They will be fine without a pond at all.  If your pasture is about 8 acres, start with 6 or 8 ducks and see what difference they make. 
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:27 PM

 
My husband says our pond is only 1/16 of an acre. Its a small pond in about 8 acres. How many ducks would we need, given that information, to make a difference in the fly problem?

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:44 PM



I doubt it.  We leave our Muscovy ducks intact - they can fly well.  We have about a 4 acre pond.  I see them walking up every morning and they go into the pasture.  Then, at evening I see them fly back down to the pond.  They won't totally eliminate the flies, but they make a difference.  We have about 10 Muscovy ducks right now for about 12 acres of pasture.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:39 PM

 
We have a llama out with our Dexters. Do you think the lama would hurt the Muscovy Ducks? We do have a pond for the ducks.

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:20 PM



I don't know about dung beetles.  Jeffer's Livestock advertises some natural predators for flies - you might check that out.  We use Muscovy ducks in our pastures.  They do a pretty good job of picking apart cow piles and reducing flies.  You can find Muscovy ducks most places - try craigslist, etc.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:12 PM

 
Hi Ronda

Don't know if you use chemical wormers.
I don't, but the use of some chemical wormer's can kill dung beetles. 
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: rusty_toadfrog <rthiessen@howardele ctricwb.com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:45:38 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Does anyone know of a source where I could obtain dung beetles that would survive Missouri winters? Or is there a way to encourage growth of the population that we have. We have dung beetles on our property but there are not enough to take care of the cow pies fast enough so that the flies do not get to hatch. I did some internet searches and cannot find where to obtain them. Any ideas? We use Cydectin for worming which is not supposed to hurt the beetle population.
Thanks,
Ronda












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#9540 From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:56 am
Subject: Re: Natural Pest Control 		cd_townson
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Dan is correct - craigslist is a good place to start.  put an ad there that you are looking for muscovy ducks.  I bet you will get some responses!
 
charles
 


--- On Sat, 11/14/09, GrandmasDexters@... <GrandmasDexters@...> wrote:

From: GrandmasDexters@... <GrandmasDexters@...>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 8:53 PM

 
Hi Terry,
 
Try craigslist.  I constantly see Muscovy Ducks on my craigslist.. .
 
Hope that helps!
Dan
 
In a message dated 11/14/2009 7:51:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, terrycapelan@ yahoo.com writes:
 
Hi Charles,

Do you know anyone in Missouri that I can buy some Muscovy Ducks from?

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 AM



They will be fine without a pond at all.  If your pasture is about 8 acres, start with 6 or 8 ducks and see what difference they make. 
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:27 PM

 
My husband says our pond is only 1/16 of an acre. Its a small pond in about 8 acres. How many ducks would we need, given that information, to make a difference in the fly problem?

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:44 PM



I doubt it.  We leave our Muscovy ducks intact - they can fly well.  We have about a 4 acre pond.  I see them walking up every morning and they go into the pasture.  Then, at evening I see them fly back down to the pond.  They won't totally eliminate the flies, but they make a difference.  We have about 10 Muscovy ducks right now for about 12 acres of pasture.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:39 PM

 
We have a llama out with our Dexters. Do you think the lama would hurt the Muscovy Ducks? We do have a pond for the ducks.

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:20 PM



I don't know about dung beetles.  Jeffer's Livestock advertises some natural predators for flies - you might check that out.  We use Muscovy ducks in our pastures.  They do a pretty good job of picking apart cow piles and reducing flies.  You can find Muscovy ducks most places - try craigslist, etc.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:12 PM

 
Hi Ronda

Don't know if you use chemical wormers.
I don't, but the use of some chemical wormer's can kill dung beetles. 
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: rusty_toadfrog <rthiessen@howardele ctricwb.com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:45:38 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Does anyone know of a source where I could obtain dung beetles that would survive Missouri winters? Or is there a way to encourage growth of the population that we have. We have dung beetles on our property but there are not enough to take care of the cow pies fast enough so that the flies do not get to hatch. I did some internet searches and cannot find where to obtain them. Any ideas? We use Cydectin for worming which is not supposed to hurt the beetle population.
Thanks,
Ronda












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#9539 From: GrandmasDexters@...
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: Natural Pest Control 		GrandmasDexters@...
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Hi Terry,
 
Try craigslist.  I constantly see Muscovy Ducks on my craigslist...
 
Hope that helps!
Dan
 
In a message dated 11/14/2009 7:51:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, terrycapelan@... writes:
 

Hi Charles,

Do you know anyone in Missouri that I can buy some Muscovy Ducks from?

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A-Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWelshPonies.com


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 AM



They will be fine without a pond at all.  If your pasture is about 8 acres, start with 6 or 8 ducks and see what difference they make. 
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:27 PM

 
My husband says our pond is only 1/16 of an acre. Its a small pond in about 8 acres. How many ducks would we need, given that information, to make a difference in the fly problem?

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:44 PM



I doubt it.  We leave our Muscovy ducks intact - they can fly well.  We have about a 4 acre pond.  I see them walking up every morning and they go into the pasture.  Then, at evening I see them fly back down to the pond.  They won't totally eliminate the flies, but they make a difference.  We have about 10 Muscovy ducks right now for about 12 acres of pasture.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:39 PM

 
We have a llama out with our Dexters. Do you think the lama would hurt the Muscovy Ducks? We do have a pond for the ducks.

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:20 PM



I don't know about dung beetles.  Jeffer's Livestock advertises some natural predators for flies - you might check that out.  We use Muscovy ducks in our pastures.  They do a pretty good job of picking apart cow piles and reducing flies.  You can find Muscovy ducks most places - try craigslist, etc.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:12 PM

 
Hi Ronda

Don't know if you use chemical wormers.
I don't, but the use of some chemical wormer's can kill dung beetles. 
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: rusty_toadfrog <rthiessen@howardele ctricwb.com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:45:38 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Does anyone know of a source where I could obtain dung beetles that would survive Missouri winters? Or is there a way to encourage growth of the population that we have. We have dung beetles on our property but there are not enough to take care of the cow pies fast enough so that the flies do not get to hatch. I did some internet searches and cannot find where to obtain them. Any ideas? We use Cydectin for worming which is not supposed to hurt the beetle population.
Thanks,
Ronda












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#9538 From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:43 am
Subject: Re: Natural Pest Control 		terrycapelan
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Hi Charles,

Do you know anyone in Missouri that I can buy some Muscovy Ducks from?

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A-Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWelshPonies.com


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@...> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@...>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:52 AM



They will be fine without a pond at all.  If your pasture is about 8 acres, start with 6 or 8 ducks and see what difference they make. 
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@...> wrote:

From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@...>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:27 PM

 
My husband says our pond is only 1/16 of an acre. Its a small pond in about 8 acres. How many ducks would we need, given that information, to make a difference in the fly problem?

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:44 PM



I doubt it.  We leave our Muscovy ducks intact - they can fly well.  We have about a 4 acre pond.  I see them walking up every morning and they go into the pasture.  Then, at evening I see them fly back down to the pond.  They won't totally eliminate the flies, but they make a difference.  We have about 10 Muscovy ducks right now for about 12 acres of pasture.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Terry Capelan <terrycapelan@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:39 PM

 
We have a llama out with our Dexters. Do you think the lama would hurt the Muscovy Ducks? We do have a pond for the ducks.

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:20 PM



I don't know about dung beetles.  Jeffer's Livestock advertises some natural predators for flies - you might check that out.  We use Muscovy ducks in our pastures.  They do a pretty good job of picking apart cow piles and reducing flies.  You can find Muscovy ducks most places - try craigslist, etc.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:12 PM

 
Hi Ronda

Don't know if you use chemical wormers.
I don't, but the use of some chemical wormer's can kill dung beetles. 
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: rusty_toadfrog <rthiessen@howardele ctricwb.com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:45:38 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Does anyone know of a source where I could obtain dung beetles that would survive Missouri winters? Or is there a way to encourage growth of the population that we have. We have dung beetles on our property but there are not enough to take care of the cow pies fast enough so that the flies do not get to hatch. I did some internet searches and cannot find where to obtain them. Any ideas? We use Cydectin for worming which is not supposed to hurt the beetle population.
Thanks,
Ronda












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#9537 From: "sheepandgoats15" <russ@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:23 am
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Hi Everyone,

I will be leaving Eden, Utah about November 28 heading to Edgar Springs,
Missouri and then Fredericktown, Ohio.  I have lots of space available.

Best regards,

Russ

Russ Edgar
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#9536 From: "Dan Butterfield - www.DexterCattle4Sale.net" <GrandmasDexters@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:32 am
Subject: Dexters For Sale - New Listings 		GrandmasDexters@...
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Jeremy/Gwen Smith
Smith's Prairieview Farm
Monticello, IA 52310
(319) 465-4785
holly.ajsmith@...		022457SPF Tony - Born March 10th, 2009.  Black dehorned bull.  He is really nice.  He Carries Red.  He is a Non-Carrier of PHA, He has been Genotyped, and it is on file with Texas A&M and the ADCA.  He is Sire Qualified.  His Chondro test is Pending but I believe him to be a Non-Carrier.
John & Sue Wine
Topeka, KS 66617
(785) 246-0950
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Sunset-4 Bush's Babe - Gentle, black, horned, Chondro non-carrier, cow that has been exposed to Wakarusa OB Malcolm, ADCA No. 020942 (Dun, PHA and Chondrodysplasia non-carrier, dehorned bull)  for a June 2010 calf.  Babe is current on vaccinations and she will be vet-checked and confirmed bred, prior to final agreement on sale. 
John & Sue Wine
Topeka, KS 66617
(785) 246-0950
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Timberview Lady - Beautiful black, horned, Chondro non-carrier cow that is bred to O'Bannon's Brogan, ADCA No. 016268 (Black, Chondrodysplasia non-carrier, horned bull) and due in December 2009.  Lady is current on vaccinations, has a very nicely shaped and well attached udder, and she can be hand milked. 
Patrick Mitchell
Shamrock Herd
Hudsonville, MI 49426
(616) 875-7494
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Earlona Max - Born May 20th, 2002.  Red Dehorned Bull.  Too many daughters of his here now, so he got replaced as herd bull. Great disposition.  I know his calving produces very uniform offspring, and we've had no problems with calf loss.  A Genotype must be performed and placed on file with Texas A&M and the ADCA in order for calves from this bull are able to be registered after January 1st, 2010."
Carol Blake
Marion, MI 49665
(231) 825-0335
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Hard Rocks Irene - Black Dehorned Cow.  Open.  Born May 30th, 2003. 
Carol Blake
Marion, MI 49665
(231) 825-0335
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Hard Rocks Tiffany - Black Dehorned Cow.  Open.  Born July 12th, 2003. 
James Wilber
Ava, MO 65608
(417) 924-9911
jpfarms@...		022518Willow of JP Farms - Born April 11th, 2009.  Dun, very gentle, sweet and has a curious nature. 
James Wilber
Ava, MO 65608
(417) 924-9911
jpfarms@...		022517
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Whisper of JP Farms - Born March 21st, 2009. Black, Very sweet and gentle.  Loves to be involved with what you are doing. 
Sally/Warren Coad
Freedom Farm
Philadelphia, TN 37846
(252) 492-6633
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FF Freedom's Z-Z-Zap - Outstanding LL Black dehorned bull.  Extensive show ring experience. Agrigenomics (blood) tested Non Carrier of PHA. A2 Milk Tested - Carrier for A2 Variant. Carries Red and Dun. Outstanding pedigree. Genotype on file with ADCA and Texas A&M (As is his Sire's and Grandsire's- both owned by FF. ADCA Reg 018784  - DOB 2/28/07.  Sire Qualified
Sally/Warren Coad
Freedom Farm
Philadelphia, TN 37846
(252) 492-6633
FreedomFarmsTM@... 		020233FF Freedom's Guinness - Outstanding LL Dun dehorned bull. Agrigenomics (blood) tested Non Carrier of PHA, A2 Milk Tested - Carrier for A2 Variant. Dun no Red. Outstanding pedigree and siblings. Genotype on file with ADCA and Texas A&M, Sire Qualified.  ADCA Reg 020233 - DOB 3/22/08
Sally/Warren Coad
Freedom Farm
Philadelphia, TN 37846
(252) 492-6633
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Lazy EA Sissy - Nice Black SL dehorned cow. Agrigenomics (blood) tested Non Carrier of PHA, sold as exposed or confirmed bred to FF Freedom's Guinness - ready for Christmas as confirmed or earlier as exposed. ADCA Reg 13029 - DOB 4/5/02
Sally/Warren Coad
Freedom Farm
Philadelphia, TN 37846
(252) 492-6633
FreedomFarmsTM@... 		14101Cushing's Lil Valentine - Adorable small Black SL dehorned cow. PET priced - Agrigenomics (blood) tested CARRIER of PHA, sold as exposed or confirmed bred to FF Freedom's Guinness (non carrier of PHA)  - ready for Christmas as confirmed or earlier as exposed. ADCA Reg 14101 - DOB 2/14/03
Sally/Warren Coad
Freedom Farm
Philadelphia, TN 37846
(252) 492-6633
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FF I.B. Cailin - Beautiful Dun LL Dehorned cow. Great bloodlines, conformation and udder. Excellent dam. Carries Red.Agrigenomics (blood) tested Non Carrier of PHA, sold as open with steer calf at side around Christmas or open alone by Valentines Day. ADCA Reg 13727 - DOB 4/2/03
Sally/Warren Coad
Freedom Farm
Philadelphia, TN 37846
(252) 492-6633
FreedomFarmsTM@... 		14399FF Annie's Dear Abbey - Great Black LL Dehorned cow. Fantastic bloodlines. Carries dun and red. Nice udder. Throws color and quality. Agrigenomics (blood) tested Non Carrier of PHA, sold as exposed or confirmed bred to FF Freedom's Guinness - ready for Christmas as confirmed or earlier as exposed. ADCA Reg 14399 - DOB 8/9/03
Barbara Netti
LEGEND ROCK RANCH
Spring Branch, TX 78070
(830) 438-4044
bcnetti@...		018611 Legend Red Pazazz - Polled Red Cow born, March 16. 2007.  Non-Carrier of Chondrodysplasia, Non-Carrier of PHA.  Excellent disposition, current on all vaccinations and worming. Sire:  Tama Titanium #15447 Dam:  Thomas' BLZ Red Porsh #12871


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#9535 From: "scottm" <jsmcgee2000@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:47 pm
Subject: Steers and heifers 		jsmcgee2000
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Howuch r your heifers and steers could you email pics. R the heifers registered
and how old r they


Thanks
Scott

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#9534 From: "Joni" <joni61@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:16 pm
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I have a bull calf born in May that could be a steer and a yearling heifer that
will calve in April or May of next year. I am in Nebraska.  Both are free from
Chondro and PHA.  Both are polled as well.
email me off list if you are interested. joni 61 @ yahoo dot com
Joni
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> I'm located in hico, and I'm lookon for a steer to fatten up, and lookin for a
heifer born around Jan -may
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> thanks
> Scott
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#9533 From: dirk loren <macawranch@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:57 am
Subject: Re: Natural Pest Control 		macawranch
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Livestock guardian dogs
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: "thewellsfamily02@..." <thewellsfamily02@...>
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:05:30 PM
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 

LGD's?


-----Original Message-----
From: dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 7:17 am
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Haven't lost a chicken in quite a long time.  actually since our LGD had pups and we kept 2.  LGD's don't let anything land on the place.
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:53:39 AM
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
yes, chickens help too and we have some in our pastures.  Our biggest problem has been hawks picking one off now and then.  the ducks are too big for a hawk to get

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com> wrote:

From: Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 9:47 PM

 
Chickens work pretty well too and aren't as nasty as Muscovy ducks. 
 
Barbara Stewart
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Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:39 PM
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We have a llama out with our Dexters. Do you think the lama would hurt the Muscovy Ducks? We do have a pond for the ducks.

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:20 PM



I don't know about dung beetles.  Jeffer's Livestock advertises some natural predators for flies - you might check that out.  We use Muscovy ducks in our pastures.  They do a pretty good job of picking apart cow piles and reducing flies.  You can find Muscovy ducks most places - try craigslist, etc.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:12 PM

 
Hi Ronda

Don't know if you use chemical wormers.
I don't, but the use of some chemical wormer's can kill dung beetles. 
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: rusty_toadfrog <rthiessen@howardele ctricwb.com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:45:38 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Does anyone know of a source where I could obtain dung beetles that would survive Missouri winters? Or is there a way to encourage growth of the population that we have. We have dung beetles on our property but there are not enough to take care of the cow pies fast enough so that the flies do not get to hatch. I did some internet searches and cannot find where to obtain them. Any ideas? We use Cydectin for worming which is not supposed to hurt the beetle population.
Thanks,
Ronda








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#9532 From: dirk loren <macawranch@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:27 am
Subject: Re: Lookin for a steer and heifer 		macawranch
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Hi Scott

I have several email me off the list.  Your not too far away from me as the crow flies.
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: scottm <jsmcgee2000@...>
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 12:03:47 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Lookin for a steer and heifer

 

I'm located in hico, and I'm lookon for a steer to fatten up, and lookin for a heifer born around Jan -may

thanks
Scott



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#9531 From: "Gene" <genebo16@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:03 am
Subject: Re: Warts! Big ones. 		genebo16
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My vet told me that warts are a disease of cattle under two years old. By the
time they are two, the warts are gone and don't return.

He told me that they only cause problems around the eyes or on the genitals. An
extreme case on a bull's sheath can render him unable to breed.

He showed me pictures in his manual of warts so big it was unbelievable.

He advocated feeding the warts to them to hasten the cure, but it will resolve
itself with age.

Genebo
Paradise Farm

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#9530 From: "Den" <denita@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:21 am
Subject: Re: Warts! Big ones. 		denitawallace
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Thanks everyone, for your responses. They all give me hope. I am going
to see if I can destroy the big one and see if that helps. I'll make
sure I get some bleeding as I have heard that helps. maybe it is a
matter of getting some of the virus into the blood stream to vaccinate
naturally. I'll post again if I get a good response.

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#9529 From: "neil maureen mccready" <mccready@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: Lookin for a steer and heifer 		txfancdexter
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Hi Scott
I have Steers, $300.     Heifers $750.
We are located in Navasota.
 
936-825-3411
Maureen McCready
Fan-C-Dexters
www.fan-c-dex.com
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:03 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Lookin for a steer and heifer

 

I'm located in hico, and I'm lookon for a steer to fatten up, and lookin for a heifer born around Jan -may

thanks
Scott


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#9528 From: "scottm" <jsmcgee2000@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:03 pm
Subject: Lookin for a steer and heifer 		jsmcgee2000
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I'm located in hico, and I'm lookon for a steer to fatten up, and lookin for a
heifer born around Jan -may

thanks
Scott

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#9527 From: "CJ Welle" <cjwelle@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:15 pm
Subject: RE: Warts! Big ones. 		charliewelle
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 Suppose we all have had our battles with viral warts.  One of my heifers got a wart close to her eye.  It bothered her; so the vet surgically removed it.  I thought well that’s that.  The next thing I knew she had warts across her back and down both shoulders.  Essentially any place she would have touched as she groomed herself.  I thought we can’t remove all these warts or we will be skinning the heifer.  I was pretty much at wits end.  The vet ordered some vaccine.  While we were waiting for the vaccine to arrive from Fort Dodge, I noticed that the black warts were turning gray.  The warts were looking less and less active.  One afternoon I used a curry comb to remove most of them.  In a little while all the warts were gone.  The vaccine arrived and we vaccinated the other cows.  That ended the problem.  Apparently that wart by her eye had triggered an immune response so the time for the many warts on her body to die was much shorter than usual.

 

C. J. Welle

Sybaritic Time

Sandy, Utah

 

From: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Townson
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:40 AM
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I went through this with a young heifer - big warts in her ears.  I pulled them off (twice) and it was pretty bloody.  After the second time, they all disappeared within a month.

 



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From: Richard Armstrong <msgtrarmstrong@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 1:17 AM

 

I have a couple of cows that have a couple of warts.    I have  1 red heifer, 1 dun heifer and 1 dun steer.   Only 1 of my black cows has 1 single little wart.   Does it have any thing to do with color?

 

 

Rick Armstrong

Conroe, TX



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From: Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:47 PM

 

My vet pulls a few of those loose warts off and puts them in a balling gun and gives them to the calf like it was a pill.  He says it will make the calf develope immunity to the warts

that are affecting him. 

 

Barbara Stewart

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Den

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:11 PM

Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.

 

 

When Chelsea had her calf, I noticed she had some warts on her udder and one on her belly. Everything I read about cattle warts led me to believe that it was fine to take no action, and they would go away on their own. Well, they did go away, on Chelsea, but not before the calf got them all over his face from nursing. Now the calf is seven months old and the warts have grown. it looks terrible. One wart is golf ball size and looks like a cauliflower. There are some on his eyelid as well, and some around his mouth. I can only wonder if he has them inside him, too. I posted pictures.

I hope this links up to the photos.here

I just can't stand seeing him like this. Got any sugestions?


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#9526 From: "Barbara Stewart" <stewartfarms@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: Warts! Big ones. 		shamrockfarm...
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You can shave them off and then burn the bleeders by just touching it with a hot dehorning iron.  I have seen people do this to get rid of them quickly so they can be shown.
 
Barbara Stewart
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Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.

 

I went through this with a young heifer - big warts in her ears.  I pulled them off (twice) and it was pretty bloody.  After the second time, they all disappeared within a month.
 


--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Richard Armstrong <msgtrarmstrong@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Richard Armstrong <msgtrarmstrong@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 1:17 AM

 
I have a couple of cows that have a couple of warts.    I have  1 red heifer, 1 dun heifer and 1 dun steer.   Only 1 of my black cows has 1 single little wart.   Does it have any thing to do with color?
 
 
Rick Armstrong
Conroe, TX


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com> wrote:

From: Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:47 PM

 
My vet pulls a few of those loose warts off and puts them in a balling gun and gives them to the calf like it was a pill.  He says it will make the calf develope immunity to the warts
that are affecting him. 
 
Barbara Stewart
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Den
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:11 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.

 
When Chelsea had her calf, I noticed she had some warts on her udder and one on her belly. Everything I read about cattle warts led me to believe that it was fine to take no action, and they would go away on their own. Well, they did go away, on Chelsea, but not before the calf got them all over his face from nursing. Now the calf is seven months old and the warts have grown. it looks terrible. One wart is golf ball size and looks like a cauliflower. There are some on his eyelid as well, and some around his mouth. I can only wonder if he has them inside him, too. I posted pictures.

I hope this links up to the photos.here

I just can't stand seeing him like this. Got any sugestions?


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#9525 From: "Barbara Stewart" <stewartfarms@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:34 pm
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My vet told me that they get a little scratch or nick and the wart takes hold
there.   He said a cow/calf that gets its head through the barbed wire
fence a lot will have a lot of them on its neck where the wire scratches
it.  
 
Barbara Stewart
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.

 

I have a couple of cows that have a couple of warts.    I have  1 red heifer, 1 dun heifer and 1 dun steer.   Only 1 of my black cows has 1 single little wart.   Does it have any thing to do with color?
 
 
Rick Armstrong
Conroe, TX


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@mo-net.com> wrote:

From: Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@mo-net.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:47 PM

 
My vet pulls a few of those loose warts off and puts them in a balling gun and gives them to the calf like it was a pill.  He says it will make the calf develope immunity to the warts
that are affecting him. 
 
Barbara Stewart
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Den
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:11 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.

 
When Chelsea had her calf, I noticed she had some warts on her udder and one on her belly. Everything I read about cattle warts led me to believe that it was fine to take no action, and they would go away on their own. Well, they did go away, on Chelsea, but not before the calf got them all over his face from nursing. Now the calf is seven months old and the warts have grown. it looks terrible. One wart is golf ball size and looks like a cauliflower. There are some on his eyelid as well, and some around his mouth. I can only wonder if he has them inside him, too. I posted pictures.

I hope this links up to the photos.here

I just can't stand seeing him like this. Got any sugestions?


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#9524 From: thewellsfamily02@...
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: Natural Pest Control 		kwbowl_101
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thnx!


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Livestock Guardian Dogs, usually Great Pyrenees or a similar breed that is specifically bred for guarding flocks or herds.
 
Jessica


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LGD's?

 

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#9523 From: Ronda Thiessen <rthiessen@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: re: dung beetles 		rusty_toadfrog
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Thank you. I have started to research how I might be able to rear some
to release. Thanks for the link. I will look at that.
Ronda

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> From: Winged Wolf <wingedwolfpsion@...
> <mailto:wingedwolfpsion%40gmail.com>>
> To: No Reply <notify-dg-DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:notify-dg-DexterCattleADCA%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:10:15 -0600
> Subject: Re: Dung beetles
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:35 AM, <DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DexterCattleADCA%40yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
> > From: rusty_toadfrog <rthiessen@howardele ctricwb.com>
> > To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:45:38 PM
> > Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know of a source where I could obtain dung beetles that
> would survive Missouri winters? Or is there a way to encourage growth
> of the population that we have. We have dung beetles on our property
> but there are not enough to take care of the cow pies fast enough so
> that the flies do not get to hatch. I did some internet searches and
> cannot find where to obtain them. Any ideas? We use Cydectin for
> worming which is not supposed to hurt the beetle population.
> > Thanks,
> > Ronda
>
> Here you go: http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/dungbeetle.html
> <http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/dungbeetle.html>
>
> Dung beetles like moist, non-compacted soil best.
>
> A few suggestions: You may be able to obtain useful species of dung
> beetles from insect hobbyists who keep them as pets (seriously), or
> from a kindly person who has them in their pasture. If you can get a
> small starter group, you can raise them up safely in some plastic tubs
> in a shed--keep lightly moist, screen out any potential predators, and
> provide them with dung of course. Once you have a large number, it's
> just a matter of releasing a few dozen at a time in appropriate places
> around your property. Keep doing this over a period of time, and you
> may be able to establish the greater numbers you want in your
> pastures.
>
> It may be worth contacting these guys:
> http://godofinsects.com/about/live_arthropods.php
> <http://godofinsects.com/about/live_arthropods.php>
> You could try posting a wanted ad on petbugs.com or InsectHobbyist
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#9522 From: "Winged Wolf" <wingedwolfpsion@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:12 am
Subject: re: dung beetles 		winged_wolf3
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:10:15 -0600
Subject: Re: Dung beetles
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:35 AM,  <DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> From: rusty_toadfrog <rthiessen@howardele ctricwb.com>
> To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:45:38 PM
> Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
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> Does anyone know of a source where I could obtain dung beetles that would
survive Missouri winters? Or is there a way to encourage growth of the
population that we have. We have dung beetles on our property but there are not
enough to take care of the cow pies fast enough so that the flies do not get to
hatch. I did some internet searches and cannot find where to obtain them. Any
ideas? We use Cydectin for worming which is not supposed to hurt the beetle
population.
> Thanks,
> Ronda

Here you go:  http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/dungbeetle.html

Dung beetles like moist, non-compacted soil best.

A few suggestions:  You may be able to obtain useful species of dung
beetles from insect hobbyists who keep them as pets (seriously), or
from a kindly person who has them in their pasture.  If you can get a
small starter group, you can raise them up safely in some plastic tubs
in a shed--keep lightly moist, screen out any potential predators, and
provide them with dung of course.  Once you have a large number, it's
just a matter of releasing a few dozen at a time in appropriate places
around your property.  Keep doing this over a period of time, and you
may be able to establish the greater numbers you want in your
pastures.

It may be worth contacting these guys:
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You could try posting a wanted ad on petbugs.com or InsectHobbyist classifieds.

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#9521 From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:39 am
Subject: Re: Warts! Big ones. 		cd_townson
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I went through this with a young heifer - big warts in her ears.  I pulled them off (twice) and it was pretty bloody.  After the second time, they all disappeared within a month.
 


--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Richard Armstrong <msgtrarmstrong@...> wrote:

From: Richard Armstrong <msgtrarmstrong@...>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 1:17 AM

 
I have a couple of cows that have a couple of warts.    I have  1 red heifer, 1 dun heifer and 1 dun steer.   Only 1 of my black cows has 1 single little wart.   Does it have any thing to do with color?
 
 
Rick Armstrong
Conroe, TX


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com> wrote:

From: Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:47 PM

 
My vet pulls a few of those loose warts off and puts them in a balling gun and gives them to the calf like it was a pill.  He says it will make the calf develope immunity to the warts
that are affecting him. 
 
Barbara Stewart
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Den
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:11 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.

 
When Chelsea had her calf, I noticed she had some warts on her udder and one on her belly. Everything I read about cattle warts led me to believe that it was fine to take no action, and they would go away on their own. Well, they did go away, on Chelsea, but not before the calf got them all over his face from nursing. Now the calf is seven months old and the warts have grown. it looks terrible. One wart is golf ball size and looks like a cauliflower. There are some on his eyelid as well, and some around his mouth. I can only wonder if he has them inside him, too. I posted pictures.

I hope this links up to the photos.here

I just can't stand seeing him like this. Got any sugestions?


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#9520 From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:35 am
Subject: Re: Natural Pest Control 		cd_townson
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Livestock Guard Dog - various breeds are suited to this task.

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, thewellsfamily02@... <thewellsfamily02@...> wrote:

From: thewellsfamily02@... <thewellsfamily02@...>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:05 PM

 
LGD's?


-----Original Message-----
From: dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 7:17 am
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Haven't lost a chicken in quite a long time.  actually since our LGD had pups and we kept 2.  LGD's don't let anything land on the place.
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:53:39 AM
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
yes, chickens help too and we have some in our pastures.  Our biggest problem has been hawks picking one off now and then.  the ducks are too big for a hawk to get

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com> wrote:

From: Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 9:47 PM

 
Chickens work pretty well too and aren't as nasty as Muscovy ducks. 
 
Barbara Stewart
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
We have a llama out with our Dexters. Do you think the lama would hurt the Muscovy Ducks? We do have a pond for the ducks.

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:20 PM



I don't know about dung beetles.  Jeffer's Livestock advertises some natural predators for flies - you might check that out.  We use Muscovy ducks in our pastures.  They do a pretty good job of picking apart cow piles and reducing flies.  You can find Muscovy ducks most places - try craigslist, etc.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:12 PM

 
Hi Ronda

Don't know if you use chemical wormers.
I don't, but the use of some chemical wormer's can kill dung beetles. 
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: rusty_toadfrog <rthiessen@howardele ctricwb.com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:45:38 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Does anyone know of a source where I could obtain dung beetles that would survive Missouri winters? Or is there a way to encourage growth of the population that we have. We have dung beetles on our property but there are not enough to take care of the cow pies fast enough so that the flies do not get to hatch. I did some internet searches and cannot find where to obtain them. Any ideas? We use Cydectin for worming which is not supposed to hurt the beetle population.
Thanks,
Ronda







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#9519 From: Richard Armstrong <msgtrarmstrong@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:17 am
Subject: Re: Warts! Big ones. 		msgtrarmstrong
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I have a couple of cows that have a couple of warts.    I have  1 red heifer, 1 dun heifer and 1 dun steer.   Only 1 of my black cows has 1 single little wart.   Does it have any thing to do with color?
 
 
Rick Armstrong
Conroe, TX


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@...> wrote:

From: Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@...>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:47 PM

 
My vet pulls a few of those loose warts off and puts them in a balling gun and gives them to the calf like it was a pill.  He says it will make the calf develope immunity to the warts
that are affecting him. 
 
Barbara Stewart
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Den
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:11 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.

 
When Chelsea had her calf, I noticed she had some warts on her udder and one on her belly. Everything I read about cattle warts led me to believe that it was fine to take no action, and they would go away on their own. Well, they did go away, on Chelsea, but not before the calf got them all over his face from nursing. Now the calf is seven months old and the warts have grown. it looks terrible. One wart is golf ball size and looks like a cauliflower. There are some on his eyelid as well, and some around his mouth. I can only wonder if he has them inside him, too. I posted pictures.

I hope this links up to the photos.here

I just can't stand seeing him like this. Got any sugestions?


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#9518 From: "Barbara Stewart" <stewartfarms@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:47 am
Subject: Re: Warts! Big ones. 		shamrockfarm...
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My vet pulls a few of those loose warts off and puts them in a balling gun and gives them to the calf like it was a pill.  He says it will make the calf develope immunity to the warts
that are affecting him. 
 
Barbara Stewart
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Den
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:11 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Warts! Big ones.

 

When Chelsea had her calf, I noticed she had some warts on her udder and one on her belly. Everything I read about cattle warts led me to believe that it was fine to take no action, and they would go away on their own. Well, they did go away, on Chelsea, but not before the calf got them all over his face from nursing. Now the calf is seven months old and the warts have grown. it looks terrible. One wart is golf ball size and looks like a cauliflower. There are some on his eyelid as well, and some around his mouth. I can only wonder if he has them inside him, too. I posted pictures.

I hope this links up to the photos.here

I just can't stand seeing him like this. Got any sugestions?


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#9517 From: snaffle628@...
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:44 am
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Livestock Guardian Dogs, usually Great Pyrenees or a similar breed that is specifically bred for guarding flocks or herds.
 
Jessica


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Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control



LGD's?

 

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#9516 From: thewellsfamily02@...
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:05 am
Subject: Re: Natural Pest Control 		kwbowl_101
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LGD's?


-----Original Message-----
From: dirk loren <macawranch@...>
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 7:17 am
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Haven't lost a chicken in quite a long time.  actually since our LGD had pups and we kept 2.  LGD's don't let anything land on the place.
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo.com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:53:39 AM
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
yes, chickens help too and we have some in our pastures.  Our biggest problem has been hawks picking one off now and then.  the ducks are too big for a hawk to get

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com> wrote:

From: Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 9:47 PM

 
Chickens work pretty well too and aren't as nasty as Muscovy ducks. 
 
Barbara Stewart
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
We have a llama out with our Dexters. Do you think the lama would hurt the Muscovy Ducks? We do have a pond for the ducks.

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:20 PM



I don't know about dung beetles.  Jeffer's Livestock advertises some natural predators for flies - you might check that out.  We use Muscovy ducks in our pastures.  They do a pretty good job of picking apart cow piles and reducing flies.  You can find Muscovy ducks most places - try craigslist, etc.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:12 PM

 
Hi Ronda

Don't know if you use chemical wormers.
I don't, but the use of some chemical wormer's can kill dung beetles. 
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: rusty_toadfrog <rthiessen@howardele ctricwb.com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:45:38 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Does anyone know of a source where I could obtain dung beetles that would survive Missouri winters? Or is there a way to encourage growth of the population that we have. We have dung beetles on our property but there are not enough to take care of the cow pies fast enough so that the flies do not get to hatch. I did some internet searches and cannot find where to obtain them. Any ideas? We use Cydectin for worming which is not supposed to hurt the beetle population.
Thanks,
Ronda







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#9515 From: "Den" <denita@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:11 am
Subject: Warts! Big ones. 		denitawallace
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When Chelsea had her calf, I noticed she had some warts on her udder and one on her belly. Everything I read about cattle warts led me to believe that it was fine to take no action, and they would go away on their own. Well, they did go away, on Chelsea, but not before the calf got them all over his face from nursing. Now the calf is seven months old and the warts have grown. it looks terrible. One wart is golf ball size and looks like a cauliflower. There are some on his eyelid as well, and some around his mouth. I can only wonder if he has them inside him, too. I posted pictures.

I hope this links up to the photos.here

I just can't stand seeing him like this. Got any sugestions?

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#9514 From: dirk loren <macawranch@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 12:17 pm
Subject: Re: Natural Pest Control 		macawranch
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Haven't lost a chicken in quite a long time.  actually since our LGD had pups and we kept 2.  LGD's don't let anything land on the place.
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@...>
To: DexterCattleADCA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:53:39 AM
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 

yes, chickens help too and we have some in our pastures.  Our biggest problem has been hawks picking one off now and then.  the ducks are too big for a hawk to get

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com> wrote:

From: Barbara Stewart <stewartfarms@ mo-net.com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 9:47 PM

 
Chickens work pretty well too and aren't as nasty as Muscovy ducks. 
 
Barbara Stewart
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
We have a llama out with our Dexters. Do you think the lama would hurt the Muscovy Ducks? We do have a pond for the ducks.

Thanks,

Terry Capelan

www.Charms-A- Plenty.com
www.ChantillyLaceWe lshPonies. com


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Charles Townson <cd_townson@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:20 PM



I don't know about dung beetles.  Jeffer's Livestock advertises some natural predators for flies - you might check that out.  We use Muscovy ducks in our pastures.  They do a pretty good job of picking apart cow piles and reducing flies.  You can find Muscovy ducks most places - try craigslist, etc.
 
charles
 


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: dirk loren <macawranch@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:12 PM

 
Hi Ronda

Don't know if you use chemical wormers.
I don't, but the use of some chemical wormer's can kill dung beetles. 
 
Dirk

Macaw Ranch
Dawson Texas
Dexter Cattle, Red Wattle Hogs, Kiko and Spanish Goats


From: rusty_toadfrog <rthiessen@howardele ctricwb.com>
To: DexterCattleADCA@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 2:45:38 PM
Subject: [DexterCattleADCA] Natural Pest Control

 
Does anyone know of a source where I could obtain dung beetles that would survive Missouri winters? Or is there a way to encourage growth of the population that we have. We have dung beetles on our property but there are not enough to take care of the cow pies fast enough so that the flies do not get to hatch. I did some internet searches and cannot find where to obtain them. Any ideas? We use Cydectin for worming which is not supposed to hurt the beetle population.
Thanks,
Ronda







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