Steve,

Yes, I too have to be cognizant of turning the microphone on and off
in my office.

Since I only use Dragon in my office environment, I was questioning if
the speech recognition errors increased in an open meeting environment?

Thanks for the great information I will check them out.

Richard
--- In DialogueMapping@yahoogroups.com, "sbmack7" <sbmack7@...> wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> It is relatively easy to integrate Dragon into a meeting environment.
> First of all, you can just note the use of speech to text in your
> opening admin instructions to the participants. And ask them to remain
> silent for a moment as you complete an insertion. And then just be
> facile at toggling the microphone on and off for everything else. That
> does take some rehearsal off-line. (Sometimes I forget at my desk. And
> if I take a phone call, Dragon likes to insert "him" to the 90th power
> times.)
>
> Steve
>
> P.S. I've tried Dragon with some other tools like Inspiration and The
> Brain. And it works well with both. Inspiration especially because as
> long as your mouse is on the canvas, your next spoken text generates a
> new node automatically.
>
> P.P.S. And I came across this wild open-source product just last week
> called TiddlyWiki. That is a real nice piece of work. But what is most
> intriguing about it is the open source paradigm. There are all these
> innovative devotees out there building plug-ins adding tons of ad hoc
> functionality to the product. Frankly, I wish the construct had gotten
> established before Bill Gates did.
>
> P.P.P.S. There is also an open-source The Brain analog called Topic
> Mapping. I can envision an integration of TiddlyWiki with Topic Mapping
> to yield something really smashing.
>
> Steve
>
>
> --- In DialogueMapping@yahoogroups.com, "rscottsc" <rscott@> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I meant to ask Steve,(not Jeff), about any recognition decrease
> > in an open meeting environment.
> >
> > --- In DialogueMapping@yahoogroups.com, "rscottsc" rscott@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd like to support Steve's comments on using Dragon with
> Compendium.
> > >
> > > Although I haven't used Dragon and compendium together in a public
> > > setting, I have found Dragon to be a considerable time saver, as
> well
> > > as much easier on the body. As Steve says, there are some minor
> > > tweaks that are necessary, but nothing overwhelming.
> > >
> > > However, I wish I could figure out how to quickly connect and
> position
> > > the nodes, but that requires more sophistication than I have
> achieved
> > > so far with Dragon.
> > >
> > > From my point of view it is worth the money to buy a good USB
> > > microphone, which unfortunately can cost more than the program
> itself.
> > >
> > > I would like to ask Jeff if he found any decrease in recognition
> using
> > > Dragon in an open meeting environment?
> > >
> > > In summary I would say try it, I think you'll like it.
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > --- In DialogueMapping@yahoogroups.com, "sbmack7" <sbmack7@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > Dragon works great with Compendium! Obviously the real timesaver
> > is an
> > > > adding definitions to the nodes. And from my point of view that
> is
> > > > hyper-critical because that really is the documented
> > rationalization for
> > > > an argument. That is also the mechanical step that adds the most
> lag
> > > > to the facilitation process.
> > > >
> > > > Here are some observations to get you started.
> > > >
> > > > You can buy Dragon Pro at Amazon for $140. But buyer beware. The
> $50
> > > > rebate is a bait and switch. That is for existing owners only who
> > want
> > > > to upgrade. The lack of clarity on the page cost me $100, because
> I
> > > > bought both my brother and myself a copy assuming I would get $100
> > back.
> > > > (The bastards)
> > > >
> > > > A mechanical point I first wrestled with is turning the microphone
> on
> > > > and off when I am facilitating. Which is obviously important
> > because I
> > > > do not want to capture my dialogue as I am conversing with the
> group.
> > > > The spoken commands to manage the microphone are somewhat
> > obtrusive, "go
> > > > to sleep", "wake up". However, I found that the accounting
> > > > plus sign on a full-size keyboard is a hotkey to turn the
> > microphone on
> > > > and off. So I can toggle the microphone silently.
> > > > Dragon will insert nodes directly onto the canvas using Compendium
> > > > hotkey equivalents. Unfortunately for me, it does not properly
> > > > recognize "D" for Decision and "M" for Map. However
> > > > there is a Dragon solution for that too. You merely have to
> > preface the
> > > > keyboard letter with the words "Press" or "Type" and
> > > > Dragon assumes that you are doing a by-key insertion, so will
> insert a
> > > > proper node. If you experiment, you can determine which nodes
> insert
> > > > properly with just the spoken letter and which need the keyword
> > preface.
> > > >
> > > > I am only a modest Compendium user, and have not really thought
> much
> > > > about a way to verbally connect nodes. So I am still tethered to
> > > > keyboard. But I don't really think there is a way to totally
> > disengage
> > > > from it anyway. However, Dragon does give you better connectivity
> > with
> > > > your group using any electronic facilitation tool that Dragon may
> > > > recognize. I think the best voice/keyboard integration is
> probably
> > > > facilitator-specific.
> > > >
> > > > Dragon does train up on your voice pretty quickly. But if you are
> > > > working with a client who has a domain specific vocabulary, you
> would
> > > > want to have the client e-mail you any special nomenclature and
> > acronyms
> > > > before your session. Then you could insert the new words in your
> > > > vocabulary with your voice prior to the meeting. That does not
> take
> > > > long.
> > > >
> > > > The microphone that comes with the software is an analog type and
> > > > clearly visible. There are less visible ones available on-line
> > with USB
> > > > connections that are also more accurate. But they are
> significantly
> > > > more expensive.
> > > >
> > > > So to close, given that you are a quasi-academic (And I won't
> > hold that
> > > > against you.), I would recommend buying Dragon just for your
> > regular day
> > > > to day professional activities. And then once you've trained it
> up
> > > > sufficiently, test it out with Compendium. I think that you will
> find
> > > > that it can be an excellent support tool for your facilitation
> > > > exercises. Jeff If you do buy it, please let me know how it works
> for
> > > > you, because I am curious.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > >
> >
>