Hello,
I want to customize our EPD environment. However my knowledge about
visual basic is currently poor so can someone help me?

Myself I think the best way to learn it is using examples. So I'm
looking for a example with:

-Browse button for directory.

-Activating / de-activating options

-Activating a script with parameters (file found by browser) and
options.

-Send a log to dashboard.

Hi Wim,

Check the "Files" section of this e-group.  There is a file
called "browser.efm" in the Scripts folder that shows how a
file selection dialog can be added to a form, which could be
modified for directory selection.  I'm not sure what you
mean by "activating / de-activating options", can you clarify?

Activating a script with arguments from ViewDraw can be done
as follows:

   ' In parent script/form
   Scripting.Globals("FolderName") = "C:\temp"
   Scripting.Globals("FileName") = "foobar.txt"
   ExecuteCommand "run runchild.vbs"

   ' In runchild.vbs
   FolderName = Scripting.Globals("FolderName")
   FileName = Scripting.Globals("FileName")
   MsgBox "The arguments are " & FolderName & "/" & FileName

From the dashboard, you can use the Tree.ShellCmd object to
run a script with arguments:

   ' In parent script/form
   Tree.ShellCmd.Command = "icscript.exe"
   Tree.ShellCmd.Arguments = "C:\wdir\runchild.vbs c:\temp foobar.txt"
   Tree.ShellCmd.RedirectOutput = True
   Tree.ShellCmd.Run

   ' In runchild.vbs
   FolderName = Arguments(3)
   FileName = Arguments(4)
   Echo "The arguments are " & FolderName & "/" & FileName

This statement will be echo'd into the Dashboard output window
due to the Tree.ShellCmd.RedirectOutput property being set to True.

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: asmlepd [mailto:wim.sevriens@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:22 AM
> To: innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [innoveda_users] Visual Basic code in EPD environment.
>
>
>
> Hello,
> I want to customize our EPD environment. However my knowledge about
> visual basic is currently poor so can someone help me?
>
> Myself I think the best way to learn it is using examples. So I'm
> looking for a example with:
>
> -Browse button for directory.
>
> -Activating / de-activating options
>
> -Activating a script with parameters (file found by browser) and
> options.
>
> -Send a log to dashboard.
>
>
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It appears as if the "Commandbarsvr" object library doesn't behave
exactly as Object Orientated.

If you create a reference to a button that you have created it should
remain true even if items are added to the same menu above this
button. In reality the reference points to a position on the menu. If
an item is added above then the button immediately above the
referenced one moves down and the reference then points to it instead
of your added button. Hence the "Enabled" property belongs to a
button that is built-in to the Viewdraw GUI.
Its enabled status is therefore Read-Only. The only way to get around
this is to add the buttons that are given an exact placement first
and then add the buttons that go to the end of the menu e.g.

RIGHT
Viewdraw.Commandbars("Component PopUp").Controls.Add
(cmdControlButton, 1, 0, 4)
Set GlobalButton = Viewdraw.Commandbars("Component
PopUp").Controls.Add(cmdControlButton, 1, 0, -1)

WRONG
Set GlobalButton = Viewdraw.Commandbars("Component
PopUp").Controls.Add(cmdControlButton, 1, 0, -1)
Viewdraw.Commandbars("Component PopUp").Controls.Add
(cmdControlButton, 1, 0, 4)

Let's make up a built-in menu (one added by Innoveda's code)

Edit
Properties
Order

Now add a new element at the bottom called "Rotate".
Set RotateButton = Viewdraw.Commandbars("Component
PopUp").Controls.Add(cmdControlButton, 1, 0, -1)
RotateButton.Caption = "Rotate"

Edit
Properties
Order
Rotate <- reference points here

Running "Msgbox RotateButton.Caption" would say "Rotate", as expected.

Now add a button, before current position 2 (i.e. "Properties"),
called "Flip".
Set NewMenu = Viewdraw.Commandbars("Component PopUp").Controls.Add
(cmdControlButton, 1, 0, 2)
NewMenu.Caption = "Flip"

Edit
Flip
Properties
Order <- reference now points here which is a built-in command
Rotate

If we now do :-
RotateButton.Enabled = False

…..we are actually trying to disable the "Order" built-in button,
an
error 1008 "Cannot change builtin property" will be thrown by
CommandBarSvr!
Running "Msgbox RotateButton.Caption" would say "Order" rather
than "Rotate".

Thanks,

David Rocke
Design System Support Engineer,
Linn Products Limited,
Glasgow,
SCOTLAND.

Instead of  RotateButton.Enabled = False
use Commandbars("Component Popup").Controls("Rotate").Enabled=False
and there will be no confusion.

      Ken



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Hello

I got a "Was Is" backannotation file from layout system.

Exampel:
R1 R34
R2 R11
R11 R1
U1 U22
U33 U2
U2 U11

Does any one have a utility or script to update the schematic
from files like that or similar

Thanks

We insert OLE (from Visio typically) into our schematics
for block diagrams. These come out as blank sheets when
using DxPDF. Has anyone had any success with this? Or
is not a supported feature of DxPDF? Using EPD 2.0.

They print fine using the PDFwriter.

Thanks.

Unfortunately, DxPDF can not handle OLE objects.

John

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> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:13 PM
> To: innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [innoveda_users] DXPDF and OLE
>
>
>
> We insert OLE (from Visio typically) into our schematics
> for block diagrams. These come out as blank sheets when
> using DxPDF. Has anyone had any success with this? Or
> is not a supported feature of DxPDF? Using EPD 2.0.
>
> They print fine using the PDFwriter.
>
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After attending the user meeting in San Diego, I am trying to
implement some of the  Tips and Techniques...

In Project Settings dialog, Components Tab, Pin Component block, what
is "Hierarchal I/O" supposed to be?  Is that the "in", "out" and "bi"
symbols.
What causes certain components to show up in the browse list?  Some
do and some don't and I haven't figured out why.

Also when I attempt to place a "Hierarchical I/O" Viewdraw errors out
with "No Corresponding Symbol - This action cannot be performed until
a symbol that corresponds to this schematic has been created"


Also, What is the difference between the "in" symbol and
the "onsheet" symbol.  The difference I noticed is  "in" is a pin
while the "onsheet" is an annotate block...
Which is appropriate for use and when?


For those that missed the User's conference!  Plan on attending next
year.  There is a wealth of information presented!

Gary Lameris

check out the BAF2VL utility  (be sure to keep a copy of the original
schematics)


--- In innoveda_users@y..., "fintzyossi" <yossi@a...> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I got a "Was Is" backannotation file from layout system.
>
> Exampel:
> R1 R34
> R2 R11
> R11 R1
> U1 U22
> U33 U2
> U2 U11
>
> Does any one have a utility or script to update the schematic
> from files like that or similar
>
> Thanks

SCOUT lets you do this

--- In innoveda_users@y..., "jpdesai_98" <jpdesai_98@y...> wrote:
> Hello :)
>
> Can i configure xref utility so that it does not xref danging net.
> I want to xref only net with xref attribute, not all dangling nets.
>
> Thanks in advance
> JD

Gary,

Hierarchical I/O are used to indicate that this net is
driven by, or drives, signals from the schematic where this
block is instantiated.  The "Add Specialized Pins =>
Hierarchical I/O" command is intended to be used while
creating a schematic for which a symbol already exists.

For example, on my schematic 'top', I place a composite
symbol called 'clockgen'.  Then I push into 'clockgen',
and the "Add Specialized Pins => Hierarchical I/O"
command lets me place in/out/bi pins for each pin on
the 'clockgen' symbol very easily.

Onsheet and offsheet symbols are not required for
connecting labeled nets across sheets on the same level
of hierarchy - they are for annotation purposes only,
thus the "Annotate" type.  Some programs, like ViewGen,
see the "Pin" type components and use that to improve
tasks like symbol generation.  Both annotate and pin
components are stripped from the logical netlist so
programs like the partlister and the PCB interfaces
don't think they are real components.

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: glameris [mailto:glameris@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 2:02 PM
> To: innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [innoveda_users] Project settings dialog, components tab
>
>
> After attending the user meeting in San Diego, I am trying to
> implement some of the  Tips and Techniques...
>
> In Project Settings dialog, Components Tab, Pin Component block, what
> is "Hierarchal I/O" supposed to be?  Is that the "in", "out" and "bi"
> symbols.
> What causes certain components to show up in the browse list?  Some
> do and some don't and I haven't figured out why.
>
> Also when I attempt to place a "Hierarchical I/O" Viewdraw errors out
> with "No Corresponding Symbol - This action cannot be performed until
> a symbol that corresponds to this schematic has been created"
>
>
> Also, What is the difference between the "in" symbol and
> the "onsheet" symbol.  The difference I noticed is  "in" is a pin
> while the "onsheet" is an annotate block...
> Which is appropriate for use and when?
>
>
> For those that missed the User's conference!  Plan on attending next
> year.  There is a wealth of information presented!
>
> Gary Lameris
>
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Hello everybody!
Desperately looking for help.
The problem is – how could I update/change the value of certain attribute
through the whole project?
Example:
  I have an attached attribute named REV = ? in my border symbol. When I
produce ECO to my schematic, I need to update the value (from A to B and for
example). I need it to be done on every sheet of the project. Today – I have
to do this manually, for each sheet. A lot of wasted time and efforts, not
mentioned the possibility of mistake somewhere (if there is a lot of
sheets).
Could I do something to change this value just once in the project so that
it’ll update the REV on all sheets all over the project.


With best regards
Igor Ivanov
Displays engineer
Astronautics C.A., Israel
Tel:      972+3-5791555
Fax:     972+3-5704404
E-mail:  <mailto:igori@...> igori@...



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I have 2 suggestions...

First, review the tutorials for Borders in EPD 2.0.  Then go to Project
Settings, Block/Borders tab, Configure Default Borders tab, Set Border
attributes.  Add your REV attribute here and you cna change it in one place.

My second suggestion is to get a program such as "Replace All Text"  Then with
Viewdraw closed, search and replace all instances of REV=A with REV=B.   RAT is
available at http://www.gidsoftware.com/
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ivanov Igor
   To: innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:18 AM
   Subject: [innoveda_users] Automatically update attribute


   Hello everybody!
   Desperately looking for help.
   The problem is - how could I update/change the value of certain attribute
   through the whole project?
   Example:
   I have an attached attribute named REV = ? in my border symbol. When I
   produce ECO to my schematic, I need to update the value (from A to B and for
   example). I need it to be done on every sheet of the project. Today - I have
   to do this manually, for each sheet. A lot of wasted time and efforts, not
   mentioned the possibility of mistake somewhere (if there is a lot of
   sheets).
   Could I do something to change this value just once in the project so that
   it'll update the REV on all sheets all over the project.


   With best regards
   Igor Ivanov
   Displays engineer
   Astronautics C.A., Israel
   Tel:      972+3-5791555
   Fax:     972+3-5704404
   E-mail:  <mailto:igori@...> igori@...



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Ivanov,

If you are using epd 2.0 you could use the new border methodology, which
allows you to override/change attribute values on the border symbols from
the "Configure Borders -> Configure Border Attributes" in viewdraw project
settings.

To use the new border scheme do the following:

1) Open Viewdraw.
2) Open Project Settings.
3) Select the Block/Borders Tab.
4) Select the "From user-configurable file and location" radio button.
5) Click the "Configure Borders..." button.
6) On the Select Border Symbols Tab select the border symbols from their
associated libraries.
7) Click the Set Border Attributes Tab and click the Browse button.
8) The Browse window will show any attributes that exist on the border
symbol. (i.e. symbol level attributes)
9) Select the desired attribute and click OK.
10) You now have the ability to specify an overriding value - click Set.
11) Click Apply and OK in the Project Settings gui.
12) If you select the design in the navigator tree and right click you will
see a menu called Borders (Hierarchical) with a series of menu options.  One
of which is Update Attributes.  You will also get the same menu if you right
click in a schematic page.  The difference is the Navigator tree will do the
whole design the schematic will do only the page in view.
13) This methodology allows you to apply borders to your design very easily
and update any of the border attributes globally.

If you need someone to walk to you through the process please feel free to
contact me through technical support.

Kind Regards,
Dan


"In all the right places"

****************************************************************************
***
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Sr. Corporate Applications Engineer 293 Boston Post Road West
Eastern US 		             Marlboro, MA 01752-4615

Hotline:  800 223 8439  Email:  dfernseb@...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ivanov Igor [mailto:igori@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:18 AM
To: innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [innoveda_users] Automatically update attribute


Hello everybody!
Desperately looking for help.
The problem is - how could I update/change the value of certain attribute
through the whole project?
Example:
  I have an attached attribute named REV = ? in my border symbol. When I
produce ECO to my schematic, I need to update the value (from A to B and for
example). I need it to be done on every sheet of the project. Today - I have
to do this manually, for each sheet. A lot of wasted time and efforts, not
mentioned the possibility of mistake somewhere (if there is a lot of
sheets).
Could I do something to change this value just once in the project so that
it'll update the REV on all sheets all over the project.


With best regards
Igor Ivanov
Displays engineer
Astronautics C.A., Israel
Tel:      972+3-5791555
Fax:     972+3-5704404
E-mail:  <mailto:igori@...> igori@...



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Hello everybody!
Looking for help.
Does anybody knows how can I replace the components through the whole
hierarchical design (replace one partID by another)?

Thanks in advance.
Dina.

I have used a text and replace editor like RAT from
http://www.gidsoftware.com to change all schematics in a subdirectory.

wordpad also works per sheet.

For details on the structure of the ASCII database see
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/innoveda_users/files/Reference%
20Documents/


Gary Lameris


--- In innoveda_users@y..., "epd_dina" <epd_dina@y...> wrote:
> Hello everybody!
> Looking for help.
> Does anybody knows how can I replace the components through the
whole
> hierarchical design (replace one partID by another)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Dina.

Dina,

In ePD 2.0 you can perform the following operations:

1) Save/Check your design hierarchy
2)Select the top-level design in the Project Navigator Tree.
3) If you aren't in flattened mode, in Project Navigator Contents,
Right-click -> Flattened Mode.
4) Click the "DEVICE" column in Project Navigator Contents or filter
the display to show only devices matching the one of interest.
5) Group select the rows for each of these devices in Project
Navigator Contents.
6) Right-mouse->Replace Component Symbols.

Regards,

Rick
--- In innoveda_users@y..., "epd_dina" <epd_dina@y...> wrote:
> Hello everybody!
> Looking for help.
> Does anybody knows how can I replace the components through the
whole
> hierarchical design (replace one partID by another)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Dina.

I am a new EPD 2.0 user and need to generate a verilnet netlist with
Oats on.

I have split IC's using HETERO type 3.

I know I need to Add 3 Attributes to the design
2 of then at the symbol level and one at the schematic.

HETERO_LABEL=somthing goes on the component level
of the design when doing flat schematics.

The Question. when doing OATS do I put the HETERO_LABEL
on the source page's or do I have to dive down all Composite
blocks to the OATs level and define it as an OAT?

Thanks

--- In innoveda_users@y..., "epd_dina" <epd_dina@y...> wrote:
> Hello everybody!
> Looking for help.
> Does anybody knows how can I replace the components through the
whole
> hierarchical design (replace one partID by another)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Dina.

Dina,

Do you just want to change symbols or do you have DxDatabook and want
to change part attributes that get placed on a symbol?  If you just
want to change symbols then you can use the Replace symbol command,
just be careful with it as it won't change the slot for a part (if
the part has slots) and you have to do it by hand on each sheet.

You can write a script to handle this if you want to change more than
one part, it's not that easy but it is possible.  I wish Innoveda had
a method to do this in DxDesigner but they don't.  (anyone listening
at Innoveda?)

If you are using DxDatabook, the process is a bit trickier.  If you
want to change one part, the DxDatabook documentation can tell you
how to do that.  It's pretty clumsy, but it does work.  If you want
to do more than one part, again you can write a script but it's not
very easy.

Tony

Hello everybody!
Hi Dina :)

Left  Mouse Button = LMB
Right Mouse Button = RMB

1. In The NEW DxDatabook  RMB > Configure >
        > Edit Configuration > Preferences
            > Excluded Attributes When Loading = REFDES
2. Open The TOP LEVEL .
3. Click On New Hierarchical Verification Window.
4. Click On The greenness "!" .
5. Select The Component To Replace. > RMB > Search
6. In the NEW Right search window > select > RMB >
7. Remove All Conditions
8. search the new component and LMB on the blue arrow +
9. In the left dxdb window LMB on the "Update Design" Icon
10. In the new window click on the "Apply Changes"

with success.

I read the ascii format for symbols, but I don't understand
what this one means:

i : Number of Instances used to date.  1 field.
                 Eg. i 6

If I edit a symbol using the ascii file, what does a number
of instances mean?  If I have 229 and I remove
some of the pins in the ascii file, do I have to reduce this
number?

Dave Kohutek

-----Original Message-----
From: glameris [mailto:glameris@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:09 AM
To: innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [innoveda_users] Re: replace components


I have used a text and replace editor like RAT from
http://www.gidsoftware.com <http://www.gidsoftware.com>  to change all
schematics in a subdirectory.

wordpad also works per sheet.

For details on the structure of the ASCII database see
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/innoveda_users/files/Reference%20Documents/
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/innoveda_users/files/Reference%20Documents/>


Gary Lameris


--- In innoveda_users@y..., "epd_dina" <epd_dina@y...> wrote:
> Hello everybody!
> Looking for help.
> Does anybody knows how can I replace the components through the
whole
> hierarchical design (replace one partID by another)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Dina.



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The i value indicates the next free internal id to use when
creating nets, components, and pins. For a symbol it
would only apply to pins


  Regards,
      Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Kohutek [mailto:davek@...]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:16 AM
To: 'innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [innoveda_users] Re: replace components


I read the ascii format for symbols, but I don't understand
what this one means:

i : Number of Instances used to date.  1 field.
                 Eg. i 6

If I edit a symbol using the ascii file, what does a number
of instances mean?  If I have 229 and I remove
some of the pins in the ascii file, do I have to reduce this
number?

Dave Kohutek

-----Original Message-----
From: glameris [mailto:glameris@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:09 AM
To: innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [innoveda_users] Re: replace components


I have used a text and replace editor like RAT from
http://www.gidsoftware.com <http://www.gidsoftware.com>  <
http://www.gidsoftware.com <http://www.gidsoftware.com> >  to change all
schematics in a subdirectory.

wordpad also works per sheet.

For details on the structure of the ASCII database see
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< http://groups.yahoo.com/group/innoveda_users/files/Reference%20Documents/
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/innoveda_users/files/Reference%20Documents/>
>


Gary Lameris


--- In innoveda_users@y..., "epd_dina" <epd_dina@y...> wrote:
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> Looking for help.
> Does anybody knows how can I replace the components through the
whole
> hierarchical design (replace one partID by another)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Dina.



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Don't reduce it's value.  It's a counter for Viewdraw whenever you add a net,
pin, or component.


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dave Kohutek
   To: 'innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com'
   Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:16 AM
   Subject: RE: [innoveda_users] Re: replace components


   I read the ascii format for symbols, but I don't understand
   what this one means:

   i : Number of Instances used to date.  1 field.
                   Eg. i 6

   If I edit a symbol using the ascii file, what does a number
   of instances mean?  If I have 229 and I remove
   some of the pins in the ascii file, do I have to reduce this
   number?

   Dave Kohutek

   -----Original Message-----
   From: glameris [mailto:glameris@...]
   Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:09 AM
   To: innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [innoveda_users] Re: replace components


   I have used a text and replace editor like RAT from
   http://www.gidsoftware.com <http://www.gidsoftware.com>  to change all
   schematics in a subdirectory.

   wordpad also works per sheet.

   For details on the structure of the ASCII database see
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/innoveda_users/files/Reference%20Documents/
   <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/innoveda_users/files/Reference%20Documents/>


   Gary Lameris


   --- In innoveda_users@y..., "epd_dina" <epd_dina@y...> wrote:
   > Hello everybody!
   > Looking for help.
   > Does anybody knows how can I replace the components through the
   whole
   > hierarchical design (replace one partID by another)?
   >
   > Thanks in advance.
   > Dina.



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Should I increase it's value by 1 if this is
going to be a new symbol?

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Lameris [mailto:glameris@...]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:07 PM
To: innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [innoveda_users] Re: replace components


Don't reduce it's value.  It's a counter for Viewdraw whenever you add a
net, pin, or component.


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dave Kohutek
   To: 'innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com'
   Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:16 AM
   Subject: RE: [innoveda_users] Re: replace components


   I read the ascii format for symbols, but I don't understand
   what this one means:

   i : Number of Instances used to date.  1 field.
                   Eg. i 6

   If I edit a symbol using the ascii file, what does a number
   of instances mean?  If I have 229 and I remove
   some of the pins in the ascii file, do I have to reduce this
   number?

   Dave Kohutek

   -----Original Message-----
   From: glameris [mailto:glameris@...]
   Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:09 AM
   To: innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [innoveda_users] Re: replace components


   I have used a text and replace editor like RAT from
   http://www.gidsoftware.com <http://www.gidsoftware.com>  <
http://www.gidsoftware.com <http://www.gidsoftware.com> >  to change all
   schematics in a subdirectory.

   wordpad also works per sheet.

   For details on the structure of the ASCII database see
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/innoveda_users/files/Reference%20Documents/
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/innoveda_users/files/Reference%20Documents/>
   <
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/innoveda_users/files/Reference%20Documents/
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/innoveda_users/files/Reference%20Documents/>
>


   Gary Lameris


   --- In innoveda_users@y..., "epd_dina" <epd_dina@y...> wrote:
   > Hello everybody!
   > Looking for help.
   > Does anybody knows how can I replace the components through the
   whole
   > hierarchical design (replace one partID by another)?
   >
   > Thanks in advance.
   > Dina.



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Hey Everyone,
We originally did electrical drawings in Futurenet, followed by
ViewLogic, and now DxDesigner.  We still have some legacy drawings.
Is there a way to convert Futurenet drawings to DxDesigner?
Thanks,
Ken

I'd like to know how users symbolize transistors in packages such as
TO-252/DPAK when the center pin is present on the package but not
connected electrically to the circuitry. Do you ignore pin 2 and
number the active pins 1,3,4? Do you show pin 2 on the symbol and
label it NC in the attributes?

I do not show the pin on the symbol, because it is not used. In the symbol
itself, the attribute NC=2 is added so that the pin is accounted for.

Jay DeKing





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                     05/13/2002
                     11:54 AM
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I'd like to know how users symbolize transistors in packages such as
TO-252/DPAK when the center pin is present on the package but not
connected electrically to the circuitry. Do you ignore pin 2 and
number the active pins 1,3,4? Do you show pin 2 on the symbol and
label it NC in the attributes?



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Of course, this is only applicable when the datasheet numbers the other
pins 1, 3 and 4.

Jay DeKing




                     Jay A Deking
                                          To:     innoveda_users@yahoogroups.com
                     05/13/2002           cc:
                     12:14 PM             Subject:     Re: [innoveda_users]
T0-252/DPAK transistors(Document
                                          link: Jay A Deking)




I do not show the pin on the symbol, because it is not used. In the symbol
itself, the attribute NC=2 is added so that the pin is accounted for.

Jay DeKing





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                                          Subject:     [innoveda_users]
T0-252/DPAK transistors
                     05/13/2002
                     11:54 AM
                     Please
                     respond to
                     innoveda_user
                     s






I'd like to know how users symbolize transistors in packages such as
TO-252/DPAK when the center pin is present on the package but not
connected electrically to the circuitry. Do you ignore pin 2 and
number the active pins 1,3,4? Do you show pin 2 on the symbol and
label it NC in the attributes?



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--- In innoveda_users@y..., "ehomme" <ehomme@o...> wrote:
> I'd like to know how users symbolize transistors in packages such as
> TO-252/DPAK when the center pin is present on the package but not
> connected electrically to the circuitry. Do you ignore pin 2 and
> number the active pins 1,3,4? Do you show pin 2 on the symbol and
> label it NC in the attributes?

I'm going through this now.  Targeting Allegro, we want the pincount
of the symbol to match the pincount of the Allegro footprint so the
device files are correct.  Since the Allegro footprint will have no
pin 2 (since it doesn't physically exist), we created a symbol with no
pin 2 and no NC=2.  The symbol and the footprint have just pins 1,3
and 4.