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From: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of hofcuse
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:11 PM
To: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DxDesigner_Users] newbie with issues

 

Hi,

I've just started using DxDesigner, and either it has a HUGE learning curve, or I'm an idiot. When I first started using Orcad Capture it was much more intuitive. I'm finding DxDesigner extremely frustrating.
Now that I've gotten that out of the way, the first of many questions to come:

1) Where is the 'CL View tab' on my DxDatabooks window that they constantly talk about in the documenation? All I see is the Symbol View Tab.

2) I'm trying to create a part and trying to import the pins from a CSV file. For some reason, the Symbol Editor rejects any pins that have the same name. For example, GROUND or VCC. Does this mean that EVERY GROUND pin on an FPGA has to have a different name? I can't believe that.

Thanks,

Barry

Hi Andrea,

The only difference between your preferences and mine is that under Component
Annotation I have change component enabled and under annotate to selected
component I have attribute prefix expression ALT_" should I turn these off?

Kirby

--- In DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com, andrea_bip_ricezione <andrea_bip@...>
wrote:
>
> Hope this is right reply.
> Andrea
>
> Emacs!
>
>
>
> At 14.59 16/11/2009, you wrote:
>
> >Hi Andrea,
> >If I select 10 caps and than select load into
> >dxdatabook what is the menu command that would
> >allow me to repopulate the 10 caps with the preserve REFDES button?
> >
> >
> >----------
> >From: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com
> >[mailto:DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrea_bip
> >Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:52 AM
> >To: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [DxDesigner_Users] What file
> >controls how symbols get populated when I load them into DxDatabook
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi Kirby
> >In 2005.1 this can be done only using the menu
> >command, not using mouse button.
> >If you select multiple components and do the
> >edit/replace menu command you have the replace command workig correctly.
> >Remember to select "component" object type,
> >otherwise you can't see the "preserve REFDES Value" button available.
> >
> >Andrea
> >
> >
> >At 19.38 11/11/2009, you wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I'm using DxDesigner version 2005.1 and I'm not
> >>sure why this is happening but when I pick
> >>multiple symbols that are identical and load
> >>them into dxdatabook than choose a different
> >>component to load back on to the schematic the
> >>refdes numbers disappear. Is there a cfg or ini
> >>file that I could edit to annotate the symbols
> >>but leave the refdes alone? If I do a change
> >>component/replace I'm given the option to
> >>Preserve the refdes value for a single
> >>component why wouldn't I be given that option
> >>when I replace multiple components?
> >>
> >>Thanks for any suggestions
> >>
> >>Kirby
> >
> >
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Hope this is right reply.
Andrea




At 14.59 16/11/2009, you wrote:

Hi Andrea,
If I select 10 caps and than select load into dxdatabook what is the menu command that would allow me to repopulate the 10 caps with the preserve REFDES button?
 

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From: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com [ mailto:DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrea_bip
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:52 AM
To: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DxDesigner_Users] What file controls how symbols get populated when I load them into DxDatabook

 

 

Hi Kirby
In 2005.1 this can be done only using the menu command, not using mouse button.
If you select multiple components and do the edit/replace menu command you have the replace command workig correctly.
Remember to select "component" object type, otherwise you can't see the "preserve REFDES Value" button available.

Andrea


At 19.38 11/11/2009, you wrote:

Hi,

I'm using DxDesigner version 2005.1 and I'm not sure why this is happening but when I pick multiple symbols that are identical and load them into dxdatabook than choose a different component to load back on to the schematic the refdes numbers disappear. Is there a cfg or ini file that I could edit to annotate the symbols but leave the refdes alone? If I do a change component/replace I'm given the option to Preserve the refdes value for a single component why wouldn't I be given that option when I replace multiple components?

Thanks for any suggestions

Kirby

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Hope this is right reply.
Andrea




At 14.59 16/11/2009, you wrote:

Hi Andrea,
If I select 10 caps and than select load into dxdatabook what is the menu command that would allow me to repopulate the 10 caps with the preserve REFDES button?
 

---

From: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com [ mailto:DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrea_bip
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:52 AM
To: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DxDesigner_Users] What file controls how symbols get populated when I load them into DxDatabook

 

 

Hi Kirby
In 2005.1 this can be done only using the menu command, not using mouse button.
If you select multiple components and do the edit/replace menu command you have the replace command workig correctly.
Remember to select "component" object type, otherwise you can't see the "preserve REFDES Value" button available.

Andrea


At 19.38 11/11/2009, you wrote:

Hi,

I'm using DxDesigner version 2005.1 and I'm not sure why this is happening but when I pick multiple symbols that are identical and load them into dxdatabook than choose a different component to load back on to the schematic the refdes numbers disappear. Is there a cfg or ini file that I could edit to annotate the symbols but leave the refdes alone? If I do a change component/replace I'm given the option to Preserve the refdes value for a single component why wouldn't I be given that option when I replace multiple components?

Thanks for any suggestions

Kirby

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Okay, I apparently DON'T have SE, since I get a licensing error when I try to
run DxDatabook.  And the location of that Central Library was obvious, it was
only(haha) 9 layers down and mentioned nowhere in the docs.

I'm going to go check out your video now.

Thanks Gary


--- In DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com, Gary Lameris <glameris@...> wrote:
>
> Since you have one of the PADS 9.02, you can determine if you have the SE
suite by going to project, settings, licensing, and seeing if you have
DxDatabook and Hyperlynx Analog options.
>
> Symbols are also shipped with the PADS9.0.x release; if you using the default
installation, the symbols are in:
> C:\MentorGraphics\9.0.2PADS\SDD_HOME\standard\templates\hyperlynx
analog\Central Library\HLASym_CentralLibrary\SymbolLibs
>
> If you review my video on using HLA, I do go over both how to create a new
project and also change a symbol library from read only to writable for
editing.  This video was created with the PADS SE suite on PADS 9.0.1.  The
link to this webinar is here: 
http://www.mentor.com/products/pcb-system-design/multimedia/pcb-designs-hyperlyn\
x-analog-pads-webseminar
>
> Next you need to change the format of the translator to translate the symbols
to DxDesigner format instead of PADS logic.  This will require retranslation.
>
> Best Wishes!
> Gary Lameris
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: hofcuse <volain@...>
> To: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 8:05:52 AM
> Subject: [DxDesigner_Users] copying/editting symbols
>
>  
> newbie here again:
>
> Ok, I got a bunch of symbols (thanks Gary), finally figured out that they had
to be in a specific structure ("sym" folder)-that only took an hour to figure
out. I can place those symbols on my schematic-now I'm getting somewhere! But,
how do I edit those symbols? I don't want to mess with the originals, can I move
them to a 'local' library? The documentation about symbols keeps yammering about
that mystical "Central Library", which is, apparently, located in
Neverneverland. I see stuff about CREATING local symbols, there's got to be a
way to COPY symbols, no?
>
> And how do I handle that Orcad Capture library I translated-the output of the
translation wasn't "x.1" elements, it was four files .ln9/.ld9/.pd9/ .pt9. I can
see a bunch of those file types scattered around, but no mention in the docs of
what they are.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Barry
>

newbie here again:
Ok, I got a bunch of symbols (thanks Gary), finally figured out that they had to be in a specific structure ("sym" folder)-that only took an hour to figure out. I can place those symbols on my schematic-now I'm getting somewhere! But, how do I edit those symbols? I don't want to mess with the originals, can I move them to a 'local' library? The documentation about symbols keeps yammering about that mystical "Central Library", which is, apparently, located in Neverneverland. I see stuff about CREATING local symbols, there's got to be a way to COPY symbols, no?
And how do I handle that Orcad Capture library I translated-the output of the translation wasn't "x.1" elements, it was four files .ln9/.ld9/.pd9/.pt9. I can see a bunch of those file types scattered around, but no mention in the docs of what they are. Thanks,
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Okay, I figured out that what happened was that I translated from Orcad to PADS
Logic (not DxDesigner). It's VERY easy, once you know what to do (File/Import).
My face is red.

But I still don't know how to copy symbols to a local (or other) library other
than through Windows Explorer.  Maybe that's the way...

Barry

--- In DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com, "hofcuse" <volain@...> wrote:
>
> newbie here again:
>
> Ok, I got a bunch of symbols (thanks Gary), finally figured out that they had
to be in a specific structure ("sym" folder)-that only took an hour to figure
out.  I can place those symbols on my schematic-now I'm getting somewhere!  But,
how do I edit those symbols? I don't want to mess with the originals, can I move
them to a 'local' library? The documentation about symbols keeps yammering about
that mystical "Central Library", which is, apparently, located in
Neverneverland.  I see stuff about CREATING local symbols, there's got to be a
way to COPY symbols, no?
>
> And how do I handle that Orcad Capture library I translated-the output of the
translation wasn't "x.1" elements, it was four files .ln9/.ld9/.pd9/.pt9. I can
see a bunch of those file types scattered around, but no mention in the docs of
what they are.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Barry
>

newbie here again:

Ok, I got a bunch of symbols (thanks Gary), finally figured out that they had to
be in a specific structure ("sym" folder)-that only took an hour to figure out. 
I can place those symbols on my schematic-now I'm getting somewhere!  But, how
do I edit those symbols? I don't want to mess with the originals, can I move
them to a 'local' library? The documentation about symbols keeps yammering about
that mystical "Central Library", which is, apparently, located in
Neverneverland.  I see stuff about CREATING local symbols, there's got to be a
way to COPY symbols, no?

And how do I handle that Orcad Capture library I translated-the output of the
translation wasn't "x.1" elements, it was four files .ln9/.ld9/.pd9/.pt9. I can
see a bunch of those file types scattered around, but no mention in the docs of
what they are.

Thanks,

Barry

-----Original Message-----
From: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of A. Wesley Chappell
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:56 PM
To: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DxDesigner_Users] newbie with issues

 

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Barry,

I can not talk to your first question. On the second yes every pin
needs a unique name. I use commonname(pin#) ie GND1, VCC22. I also
show all pins, you can use the SIGNAL attribute to "hide" pins, but
I had a gotcha a couple of times.

Keep asking questions they help everyone at one time or another.

hofcuse wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just started using DxDesigner, and either it has a HUGE learning curve, or I'm an idiot. When I first started using Orcad Capture it was much more intuitive. I'm finding DxDesigner extremely frustrating.
> Now that I've gotten that out of the way, the first of many questions to come:
>
> 1) Where is the 'CL View tab' on my DxDatabooks window that they constantly talk about in the documenation? All I see is the Symbol View Tab.
>
>
> 2) I'm trying to create a part and trying to import the pins from a CSV file. For some reason, the Symbol Editor rejects any pins that have the same name. For example, GROUND or VCC. Does this mean that EVERY GROUND pin on an FPGA has to have a different name? I can't believe that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Barry
>
- --
A. Wesley Chappell
Sytech Corporation
703 941 7887 main
703 499 3532 mobile
wchappell@sytechcorp.com

One man's "magic" is another man's engineering.
"Supernatural" is a null word.
Lazarus Long
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Barry,

	 I can not talk to your first question.  On the second yes every pin
needs a unique name.  I use commonname(pin#) ie GND1, VCC22.  I also
show all pins, you can use the SIGNAL attribute to "hide" pins, but
I had a gotcha a couple of times.

Keep asking questions they help everyone at one time or another.


hofcuse wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just started using DxDesigner, and either it has a HUGE learning curve,
or I'm an idiot.  When I first started using Orcad Capture it was much more
intuitive.  I'm finding DxDesigner extremely frustrating.
> Now that I've gotten that out of the way, the first of many questions to come:
>
> 1) Where is the 'CL View tab' on my DxDatabooks window that they constantly
talk about in the documenation? All I see is the Symbol View Tab.
>
>
> 2) I'm trying to create a part and trying to import the pins from a CSV file. 
For some reason, the Symbol Editor rejects any pins that have the same name. 
For example, GROUND or VCC. Does this mean that EVERY GROUND pin on an FPGA has
to have a different name? I can't believe that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Barry
>
- --
A. Wesley Chappell
Sytech Corporation
703 941 7887 main
703 499 3532 mobile
wchappell@...

One man's "magic" is another man's engineering.
	 "Supernatural" is a null word.
                  Lazarus Long
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Hi,

I've just started using DxDesigner, and either it has a HUGE learning curve, or
I'm an idiot.  When I first started using Orcad Capture it was much more
intuitive.  I'm finding DxDesigner extremely frustrating.
Now that I've gotten that out of the way, the first of many questions to come:

1) Where is the 'CL View tab' on my DxDatabooks window that they constantly talk
about in the documenation? All I see is the Symbol View Tab.


2) I'm trying to create a part and trying to import the pins from a CSV file. 
For some reason, the Symbol Editor rejects any pins that have the same name. 
For example, GROUND or VCC. Does this mean that EVERY GROUND pin on an FPGA has
to have a different name? I can't believe that.

Thanks,

Barry

DxDesigner 9.0
IO Designer 8.0

--- In DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com, Gary Lameris <glameris@...> wrote:
>
> What product versions are you using?
>
> Gary Lameris
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: jimlz77smith <jimlz77smith@...>
> To: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:57:28 PM
> Subject: [DxDesigner_Users] IO Designer corrupts my project
>
>  
> I hope someone on this group can help me.
>
> I'm using I/O Designer to generate symbols for an FPGA in my DxDesigner
project.
>
> After trying to export schematics from IO Designer, I can no longer open the
project in DxDesigner. There is a pop-up that says "Unable to open iCDB
connection" and the output window says "Snapshot creation failed: Snapshot
already exists".
>
> This is now happening consistently, although it seemed to be pretty random at
first.
>
> At one point, I thought it might be related to the use of subversion, since
some of the "files" files in the database directory structure had references to
.svn directories, but that is looking more like a red herring.
>
> If anyone has seen this and can give me a clue, I'd be very grateful. It has
caused my work to come to an almost complete halt.
>

I hope someone on this group can help me.

I'm using I/O Designer to generate symbols for an FPGA in my DxDesigner project.

After trying to export schematics from IO Designer, I can no longer open the
project in DxDesigner. There is a pop-up that says "Unable to open iCDB
connection" and the output window says "Snapshot creation failed: Snapshot
already exists".

This is now happening consistently, although it seemed to be pretty random at
first.

At one point, I thought it might be related to the use of subversion, since some
of the "files" files in the database directory structure had references to .svn
directories, but that is looking more like a red herring.

If anyone has seen this and can give me a clue, I'd be very grateful. It has
caused my work to come to an almost complete halt.

Hi,

I'm using DxDesigner version 2005.1 and I'm not sure why this is happening but
when I pick multiple symbols that are identical and load them into dxdatabook
than choose a different component to load back on to the schematic the refdes
numbers disappear. Is there a cfg or ini file that I could edit to annotate the
symbols but leave the refdes alone? If I do a change component/replace I'm given
the option to Preserve the refdes value for a single component why wouldn't I be
given that option when I replace multiple components?

Thanks for any suggestions

Kirby

I am interested in collecting data on storage methods such as DxDatamanager.

If anyone has feedback on storage solutions please email me at:  gary_lameris@...

I have included some starter questions below:

--- In DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com, "ecadman87" <ecadman87@...> wrote:
>
> Dxdatamanger is much more than a storage tool. It's a work group collaboration tool, version tracking and how the share and control our schematics. It's a major part of our flow just as much as Databook. If you just use the basic functions, it is simple and easy to use.

Dxdatamanger is much more than a storage tool. It's a work group collaboration
tool, version tracking and how the share and control our schematics. It's a
major part of our flow just as much as Databook. If you just use the basic
functions, it is simple and easy to use. Mentor's plans to update it for the new
version is years away.


--- In DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com, Gary Lameris <glameris@...> wrote:
>
> DxDataManager or almost any other source tool will store the database.
>
> Mentor has also stated the intention is to update the product.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: ecadman87 <ecadman87@...>
> To: DxDesigner_Users@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, October 6, 2009 1:22:03 PM
> Subject: [DxDesigner_Users] I'm looking for DxDatamanager replacement
>
>  
> Has anyone found a replacement for DxDatamanager that works with the latest
version of DxDesigner?
>
> Thanks
>

Hi Guys,

Can anyone recommend a good windows program for doing a text search and replace on an entire directory of files? I'm looking for an easy program for doing search and replaces on Dx Symbol libraries.

I've tried the program Actual Search and Replace but it only does 60% of what I need.

Thanks,
Ben

Notepad++

Hi Guys,

Can anyone recommend a good windows program for doing a text search and replace
on an entire directory of files?  I'm looking for an easy program for doing
search and replaces on Dx Symbol libraries.

I've tried the program Actual Search and Replace but it only does 60% of what I
need.

Thanks,
Ben