After tring to make our test scripts suit to EMOS we have some issues.
So we worked little more than present in EMOS to make our work easier.
Out of all we came up with a solution which I think will work for EMOS
framework. Instead of the key words in idx keeping in single array(idx
[]) we thought of another array(idy[]).
After applying our solution, idx will store only function name key
words and idy will store only the parameter values(I can explain this
if any body wants to). So  the constraint of non repetaion of idx
values is now resolved. If any of you are interested in this patch
they can contact me so that I can provide to you.

Hi MaC,

This is great news. Thanks a lot for the offer.
EMOS Framework is hosted on SourceForge.
However there is no CVS/subversion repository yet.
The data is localy maintained and then deployed as a zip file.
I would be glad to add you as a developer to the project.
However, as I would like to see you changes before we deploy them
we need to exchange some data before.
Please contact me directly so we can arange the details.

Best regards,
dean


--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Dean,
>
>
> our company kindly allowed us to give back to the open source
> community EMOS what we have done! Yet they want to remain
anonymous.
> So my first question is: how am I supposed to do that? :)
> Is there some kind of CVS or subversion repository of EMOS?
>
> Please remember that we have changed quite a bit and also created a
> project template and that there are now some new requirements for
> EMOS, like having ImageMagick installed (well only if you want to
use
> the screenshot feature). Yet I think anyone who is not completely
new
> to WR should get it working within minutes.
>
> To the QC/TD/EMOS Integration part: we had some similar ideas, but
we
> where planning on writing a TestType DLL for QC and also a remote
> agent for WR. Right now we are evaluating the Functional Testing
> package from Mercury, since it has some decent new features. If it
is
> applicable we would like to use the Business Components from QC and
> reuse our EMOS code to implement a generic keyword, reducing coding
> effort greatly.
>
> What I don't understand: how do I use the current integration?
>
>
> BR;
>
> MaC
>

Dear Dean,


our company kindly allowed us to give back to the open source
community EMOS what we have done! Yet they want to remain anonymous.
So my first question is: how am I supposed to do that? :)
Is there some kind of CVS or subversion repository of EMOS?

Please remember that we have changed quite a bit and also created a
project template and that there are now some new requirements for
EMOS, like having ImageMagick installed (well only if you want to use
the screenshot feature). Yet I think anyone who is not completely new
to WR should get it working within minutes.

To the QC/TD/EMOS Integration part: we had some similar ideas, but we
where planning on writing a TestType DLL for QC and also a remote
agent for WR. Right now we are evaluating the Functional Testing
package from Mercury, since it has some decent new features. If it is
applicable we would like to use the Business Components from QC and
reuse our EMOS code to implement a generic keyword, reducing coding
effort greatly.

What I don't understand: how do I use the current integration?


BR;

MaC

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Hi Sriram,

EMOS Framework is 100% written in TSL and therefore available only for
WinRunner. The only port I know of was done for QTP
(http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/qtp_emos/). I have no knowledge of
any ports to SilkTest. Sorry.

Best regards,
dean

--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "sriram_angajala5555"
<sriram_angajala5555@...> wrote:
>
> Hai every bod,
> We actually implemented EMOS in our organization and it worked fine
> upto some extent but is there any drivers and apis in 4t language
> (Silk Test) for EMOS so that we can try to implement.
> I am also working with Rahul
>
>
> Sriram Angajala
> --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "Biju Balachandran"
> <biju.balachandran@> wrote:
> >
> > hi Rahul
> > I have been using Emos for nearly two years now  Emos happens to
> be very
> > good framework with respect to test management and rapid test
> developement
> > in a rapidly changing environment.with regerds to your query
> >
> > for the first query  there is qtp emos available but it is not
> extensive as
> > the winrunner one .framework driven automation helps automating
> applications
> > of various palatforms but has tool dependency to mitigate that
> risk the
> > framework is open for develpment .thus Qtp Emos emos is alos being
> > developed. Emos would be downloadable  sourceforge .net (i suposse
> u might
> > be knowing by know)
> >
> > to your second query  i do notthink there is document avaible of
> the flow
> > but the api doc is availble http://emos-framework.sourceforge.net
> examples
> > are avilble in that site namely flight reservation  the site
> althogh doesnot
> > work but the coding and the script iis very helpful
> >
> > in case we have Carsten B�che and Dean Rajovic for our rescue
> when in
> > Crisis:)
> >
> >
> > On 7/20/06, S. Venkata Rahul <saverahul@> wrote:
> > >
> > >    Hello,
> > >
> > > I am a quality assurance engineer in India and I stumbled upon
> EMOS
> > > when I was looking for solutions to my problem of maintaining
> > > Winrunner scripts across various versions of the product I am
> > > testing.
> > >
> > > Surprisingly enough, it looked like EMOS was designed with
> precisely
> > > the same objectives. Currently I and my team are experimenting
> with
> > > this this framework and trust me, we have enjoyed every bit of
> it.
> > >
> > > Now for the problem part: I have two questions. Both are based
> on this
> > > prologue: EMOS must be seen more as a plane of thinking than as
> a set
> > > of tools. Implicitly, there are many advantages.
> > >
> > > The first is: Less importance to the nitty gritties of the
> underlying
> > > tool. Has anyone tried implementing the same on other test
> tools? Say,
> > > Silk? Are these middle-tier libraries available for download? If
> it
> > > were, then there is a lot of convenience in case one wanted to
> shift
> > > from one tool to another.
> > >
> > > Has somebody made any document of how to use the FrameWork
> Tools? If
> > > they did, kindly share the document. I guess this wizard creates
> all
> > > the files for a particular test all on its own and I need not do
> > > anything like editing the XL sheets or like the drv* scripts.
> > >
> > > If somebody has replies to these questions kindly reply. I guess
> we
> > > have a lot of advantages with these two facilities.
> > >
> > > Last but not the least; Thanks to Carsten B�che and Dean
> Rajovic.
> > > Automation looks simpler than before. Even more thanks for
> making it
> > > open source.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Rahul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Hai every bod,
We actually implemented EMOS in our organization and it worked fine
upto some extent but is there any drivers and apis in 4t language
(Silk Test) for EMOS so that we can try to implement.
I am also working with Rahul


Sriram Angajala
--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "Biju Balachandran"
<biju.balachandran@...> wrote:
>
> hi Rahul
> I have been using Emos for nearly two years now  Emos happens to
be very
> good framework with respect to test management and rapid test
developement
> in a rapidly changing environment.with regerds to your query
>
> for the first query  there is qtp emos available but it is not
extensive as
> the winrunner one .framework driven automation helps automating
applications
> of various palatforms but has tool dependency to mitigate that
risk the
> framework is open for develpment .thus Qtp Emos emos is alos being
> developed. Emos would be downloadable  sourceforge .net (i suposse
u might
> be knowing by know)
>
> to your second query  i do notthink there is document avaible of
the flow
> but the api doc is availble http://emos-framework.sourceforge.net
examples
> are avilble in that site namely flight reservation  the site
althogh doesnot
> work but the coding and the script iis very helpful
>
> in case we have Carsten B�che and Dean Rajovic for our rescue
when in
> Crisis:)
>
>
> On 7/20/06, S. Venkata Rahul <saverahul@...> wrote:
> >
> >    Hello,
> >
> > I am a quality assurance engineer in India and I stumbled upon
EMOS
> > when I was looking for solutions to my problem of maintaining
> > Winrunner scripts across various versions of the product I am
> > testing.
> >
> > Surprisingly enough, it looked like EMOS was designed with
precisely
> > the same objectives. Currently I and my team are experimenting
with
> > this this framework and trust me, we have enjoyed every bit of
it.
> >
> > Now for the problem part: I have two questions. Both are based
on this
> > prologue: EMOS must be seen more as a plane of thinking than as
a set
> > of tools. Implicitly, there are many advantages.
> >
> > The first is: Less importance to the nitty gritties of the
underlying
> > tool. Has anyone tried implementing the same on other test
tools? Say,
> > Silk? Are these middle-tier libraries available for download? If
it
> > were, then there is a lot of convenience in case one wanted to
shift
> > from one tool to another.
> >
> > Has somebody made any document of how to use the FrameWork
Tools? If
> > they did, kindly share the document. I guess this wizard creates
all
> > the files for a particular test all on its own and I need not do
> > anything like editing the XL sheets or like the drv* scripts.
> >
> > If somebody has replies to these questions kindly reply. I guess
we
> > have a lot of advantages with these two facilities.
> >
> > Last but not the least; Thanks to Carsten B�che and Dean
Rajovic.
> > Automation looks simpler than before. Even more thanks for
making it
> > open source.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rahul
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Biju Balachandran <biju.balachandran@...> wrote:
           hi Rahul
I have been using Emos for nearly two years now Emos happens to be very
good framework with respect to test management and rapid test developement
in a rapidly changing environment.with regerds to your query

for the first query there is qtp emos available but it is not extensive as
the winrunner one .framework driven automation helps automating applications
of various palatforms but has tool dependency to mitigate that risk the
framework is open for develpment .thus Qtp Emos emos is alos being
developed. Emos would be downloadable sourceforge .net (i suposse u might
be knowing by know)

to your second query i do notthink there is document avaible of the flow
but the api doc is availble http://emos-framework.sourceforge.net examples
are avilble in that site namely flight reservation the site althogh doesnot
work but the coding and the script iis very helpful

in case we have Carsten B�che and Dean Rajovic for our rescue when in
Crisis:)

On 7/20/06, S. Venkata Rahul <saverahul@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am a quality assurance engineer in India and I stumbled upon EMOS
> when I was looking for solutions to my problem of maintaining
> Winrunner scripts across various versions of the product I am
> testing.
>
> Surprisingly enough, it looked like EMOS was designed with precisely
> the same objectives. Currently I and my team are experimenting with
> this this framework and trust me, we have enjoyed every bit of it.
>
> Now for the problem part: I have two questions. Both are based on this
> prologue: EMOS must be seen more as a plane of thinking than as a set
> of tools. Implicitly, there are many advantages.
>
> The first is: Less importance to the nitty gritties of the underlying
> tool. Has anyone tried implementing the same on other test tools? Say,
> Silk? Are these middle-tier libraries available for download? If it
> were, then there is a lot of convenience in case one wanted to shift
> from one tool to another.
>
> Has somebody made any document of how to use the FrameWork Tools? If
> they did, kindly share the document. I guess this wizard creates all
> the files for a particular test all on its own and I need not do
> anything like editing the XL sheets or like the drv* scripts.
>
> If somebody has replies to these questions kindly reply. I guess we
> have a lot of advantages with these two facilities.
>
> Last but not the least; Thanks to Carsten B�che and Dean Rajovic.
> Automation looks simpler than before. Even more thanks for making it
> open source.
>
> Regards,
> Rahul
>
>
>

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Thanks Biju.

My second question was really about the wizard in the
FrameWorkTool. This tool when run as a test inside WR
shows up a wizard. I guess almost all the basic things
files for automating a new component are all written
by that tool. All that we require to do is to run the
manual test once "When this tool is seeing". I was
asking for the HOW-TO-USE document for this one.

One more thing: Today we could sneak through the emos
library  and we now have a very clear idea of the
entire code that has gone into the framework. We have
automated our first two testcases today from EMOS. My
team is excited.

As of my official detail, I work with JDA in
Hyderabad. How about you?

Regards
Rahul



--- Biju Balachandran <biju.balachandran@...>
wrote:

> hi Rahul
> I have been using Emos for nearly two years now
> Emos happens to be very
> good framework with respect to test management and
> rapid test developement
> in a rapidly changing environment.with regerds to
> your query
>
> for the first query  there is qtp emos available but
> it is not extensive as
> the winrunner one .framework driven automation helps
> automating applications
> of various palatforms but has tool dependency to
> mitigate that risk the
> framework is open for develpment .thus Qtp Emos emos
> is alos being
> developed. Emos would be downloadable  sourceforge
> .net (i suposse u might
> be knowing by know)
>
> to your second query  i do notthink there is
> document avaible of the flow
> but the api doc is availble
> http://emos-framework.sourceforge.net examples
> are avilble in that site namely flight reservation
> the site althogh doesnot
> work but the coding and the script iis very helpful
>
> in case we have Carsten B�che and Dean Rajovic for
> our rescue when in
> Crisis:)
>
>
> On 7/20/06, S. Venkata Rahul <saverahul@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >    Hello,
> >
> > I am a quality assurance engineer in India and I
> stumbled upon EMOS
> > when I was looking for solutions to my problem of
> maintaining
> > Winrunner scripts across various versions of the
> product I am
> > testing.
> >
> > Surprisingly enough, it looked like EMOS was
> designed with precisely
> > the same objectives. Currently I and my team are
> experimenting with
> > this this framework and trust me, we have enjoyed
> every bit of it.
> >
> > Now for the problem part: I have two questions.
> Both are based on this
> > prologue: EMOS must be seen more as a plane of
> thinking than as a set
> > of tools. Implicitly, there are many advantages.
> >
> > The first is: Less importance to the nitty
> gritties of the underlying
> > tool. Has anyone tried implementing the same on
> other test tools? Say,
> > Silk? Are these middle-tier libraries available
> for download? If it
> > were, then there is a lot of convenience in case
> one wanted to shift
> > from one tool to another.
> >
> > Has somebody made any document of how to use the
> FrameWork Tools? If
> > they did, kindly share the document. I guess this
> wizard creates all
> > the files for a particular test all on its own and
> I need not do
> > anything like editing the XL sheets or like the
> drv* scripts.
> >
> > If somebody has replies to these questions kindly
> reply. I guess we
> > have a lot of advantages with these two
> facilities.
> >
> > Last but not the least; Thanks to Carsten B�che
> and Dean Rajovic.
> > Automation looks simpler than before. Even more
> thanks for making it
> > open source.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rahul
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
>
>



Regards

Venkata Rahul S




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hi Rahul
I have been using Emos for nearly two years now  Emos happens to be very
good framework with respect to test management and rapid test developement
in a rapidly changing environment.with regerds to your query

for the first query  there is qtp emos available but it is not extensive as
the winrunner one .framework driven automation helps automating applications
of various palatforms but has tool dependency to mitigate that risk the
framework is open for develpment .thus Qtp Emos emos is alos being
developed. Emos would be downloadable  sourceforge .net (i suposse u might
be knowing by know)

to your second query  i do notthink there is document avaible of the flow
but the api doc is availble http://emos-framework.sourceforge.net examples
are avilble in that site namely flight reservation  the site althogh doesnot
work but the coding and the script iis very helpful

in case we have Carsten B�che and Dean Rajovic for our rescue when in
Crisis:)


On 7/20/06, S. Venkata Rahul <saverahul@...> wrote:
>
>    Hello,
>
> I am a quality assurance engineer in India and I stumbled upon EMOS
> when I was looking for solutions to my problem of maintaining
> Winrunner scripts across various versions of the product I am
> testing.
>
> Surprisingly enough, it looked like EMOS was designed with precisely
> the same objectives. Currently I and my team are experimenting with
> this this framework and trust me, we have enjoyed every bit of it.
>
> Now for the problem part: I have two questions. Both are based on this
> prologue: EMOS must be seen more as a plane of thinking than as a set
> of tools. Implicitly, there are many advantages.
>
> The first is: Less importance to the nitty gritties of the underlying
> tool. Has anyone tried implementing the same on other test tools? Say,
> Silk? Are these middle-tier libraries available for download? If it
> were, then there is a lot of convenience in case one wanted to shift
> from one tool to another.
>
> Has somebody made any document of how to use the FrameWork Tools? If
> they did, kindly share the document. I guess this wizard creates all
> the files for a particular test all on its own and I need not do
> anything like editing the XL sheets or like the drv* scripts.
>
> If somebody has replies to these questions kindly reply. I guess we
> have a lot of advantages with these two facilities.
>
> Last but not the least; Thanks to Carsten B�che and Dean Rajovic.
> Automation looks simpler than before. Even more thanks for making it
> open source.
>
> Regards,
> Rahul
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello,

I am a quality assurance engineer in India and I stumbled upon EMOS
when I was looking for solutions to my problem of maintaining
Winrunner scripts across various versions of the product I am
testing.

Surprisingly enough, it looked like EMOS was designed with precisely
the same objectives. Currently I and my team are experimenting with
this this framework and trust me, we have enjoyed every bit of it.

Now for the problem part: I have two questions. Both are based on this
prologue: EMOS must be seen more as a plane of thinking than as a set
of tools. Implicitly, there are many advantages.

The first is: Less importance to the nitty gritties of the underlying
tool. Has anyone tried implementing the same on other test tools? Say,
Silk? Are these middle-tier libraries available for download? If it
were, then there is a lot of convenience in case one wanted to shift
from one tool to another.

Has somebody made any document of how to use the FrameWork Tools? If
they did, kindly share the document. I guess this wizard creates all
the files for a particular test all on its own and I need not do
anything like editing the XL sheets or like the drv* scripts.

If somebody has replies to these questions kindly reply. I guess we
have a lot of advantages with these two facilities.

Last but not the least; Thanks to Carsten B�che and Dean Rajovic.
Automation looks simpler than before. Even more thanks for making it
open source.

Regards,
Rahul

Hi MaC,

The only limitation are those impsed by the ddt interface.
Theoretically, all 256 columns are available.
However, note that the column names are all read into a single string
variable. If your tests have long names, it is possible that you filled
up up the variable (default max size of strings in WR ais 1024).
You can try to increase the default size (I guess it is in wr_gen
library) or use shorter column names (my choice).

Best regards,
dean


--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@...> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
> Is there a limitation in the nummber of the coloumns one can use in
> Excel (ergo the nummber of testcases)?
>
> Since I reached "AL" EMOS failes to find testcases and ignores them :(
>
> THX
>
> BR;
>
> MaC
>

Hi!


Is there a limitation in the nummber of the coloumns one can use in
Excel (ergo the nummber of testcases)?

Since I reached "AL" EMOS failes to find testcases and ignores them :(

THX

BR;

MaC

Hi MaC,

If you mean re-using the same block name in a test sequence, then yes,
you can call the same test block from the same test. Note that the
block will always do the same thing (which doesn't sound too
interesting). However, there is one nice usage though. Imagine your
blockX enters some data (i.e. using SET mode). In order to chack that
exactly the same data was really entered you could call the same block
immediately in CHK mode. So the sequence would look like this:

     ...
     blockX
     CHK:blockX
     ...

If you meant re-using the same name for another test block, then no,
you cannot do this. However, consider Carsten's trick that shows you
how to allcate different names for the same piece of code.

Cheers,
dean



--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@...> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
> Is it possible to include the same keyword more than once into the
> same testcase?
>
> BTW: the Open Source question is now at the dep. of our "big boss", we
> shall see :)
>
> THX!
>
> BR;
> MaC
>

Hi,
What is the problem?

In drv-script is the case function that can be filled with all names
that has to execute the same function.

public function AUT_DRV_call_block( in tid, in test, in step, inout
mode )
{
	 auto rc;
	 switch( tolower( step ) )
	 {
	 case "testblock":
              "testblock1":
              "testblock2":
              "testblock3":
              "testblock4":
              "testblock5":
		 rc = FRM_testblock( tid, test, step, mode );
	 break;
	 # --default steps--
	 case "not-implemented-yet step":
		 rc = E_FRM_NOT_IMPLEMENTED; break;
	 default:
		 rc = E_FRM_UNKNOWN;
	 }
	 return rc;
}

regards
Carsten

--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@...> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
> Is it possible to include the same keyword more than once into the
> same testcase?
>
> BTW: the Open Source question is now at the dep. of our "big
boss", we
> shall see :)
>
> THX!
>
> BR;
> MaC
>

Hi!


Is it possible to include the same keyword more than once into the
same testcase?

BTW: the Open Source question is now at the dep. of our "big boss", we
shall see :)

THX!

BR;
MaC

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   Quality Control Practices
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   indicates a professional level of competence in the principles and
   practices of quality control in the IT profession. This program helps
   participants acquire a higher level of technical expertise in the
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   Who should attend?
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   The course covers all the 10 domains of CSTE as per CBOK & case
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   Software Testing Principles and Concepts
   Building the Test Environment
   Managing the Test Project
   Test Planning
   Executing the Test Plan
   Test Status, Analysis and Reporting
   User Acceptance Testing
   Testing Software Developed by Outside Organizations
   Testing Software Controls and the Adequacy of Security Procedures
   Testing New Technologies
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hi
   i want to know what are the basic requirements required to write this 
exam.now i am in US is it possible for me to write this exam.i don't  have any
industry experience.am i eligible to write this exam.repply me  soon
   thanks

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   Software Testing Principles and Concepts
   Building the Test Environment
   Managing the Test Project
   Test Planning
   Executing the Test Plan
   Test Status, Analysis and Reporting
   User Acceptance Testing
   Testing Software Developed by Outside Organizations
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   Testing New Technologies
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Hi rsanz75,

(I assume you are also known by some more meaningful name, arn't you?)

Unfortunataly, your description is not detailed enaugh for a concrete
help. One thing I noticed is the trailing semicolon in "File;Open...;".
This semicolon should not be there.

However, I don't think this is the real problem.
I suspect that your "Open..." either has some embeded spaces ("eg.
"Open ..." or "Open... ") or some other characters (eg. "Open... Ctrl-O").

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
dean

--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "rsanz75" <rsanz75@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, i have a problem with Menu;Submenu...;
>
> Object: "File;Open...;"   Error : Object is not in the GUI map.
>
> but Object: "File;Open;" Is oK.
>
> I have menus with that particularitity
>
> Thanks a greeting
>

Hello, i have a problem with Menu;Submenu...;

Object: "File;Open...;"   Error : Object is not in the GUI map.

but Object: "File;Open;" Is oK.

I have menus with that particularitity

Thanks a greeting

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What is CSQA?
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in the information technology (IT) quality assurance industry.
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the principles of Quality Assurance. Individuals clearing CSQA exam
become member of a recognized professional group leading to rapid
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to management.
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Quality Principles and Concepts
Quality Leadership
Quality Baselines (Assessments and Audits)
Quality Assurance
Quality Planning
Define, Build, Implement and Improve Work Processes
Quality Control Practices
Metrics and Measurement
Internal Control and Security
Outsourcing, COTS and Contracting Quality
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2.00 pm)
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studies,Mock Tests etc.)

2. Certified Software Test Engineer (CSTE)

What is CSTE?
The CSTE certification is intended to establish standards for initial
qualification and provide direction for the testing function through
an aggressive educational program. Acquiring the designation of CSTE
indicates a professional level of competence in the principles and
practices of quality control in the IT profession. This program helps
participants acquire a higher level of technical expertise in the
Testing function.
Who should attend?
Software Professionals
Project Managers, Project Leaders, Test Leads,Test Managers
Quality & Testing Professionals
  CSTE Course contents:(Revised 2006 syllabus)
The course covers all the 10 domains of CSTE as per CBOK & case
studies discussions by experts.
Software Testing Principles and Concepts
Building the Test Environment
Managing the Test Project
Test Planning
Executing the Test Plan
Test Status, Analysis and Reporting
User Acceptance Testing
Testing Software Developed by Outside Organizations
Testing Software Controls and the Adequacy of Security Procedures
Testing New Technologies
Start Date : 25th Mar 06
Duration : 2.5 months (Every Sunday 9.30 am to 11.30 am & 12.00 to
2.00 pm)
Fees:  Rs. 6000(Inclusive of Study mtl, Question bank & Case studies,
Mock Tests etc.)

About the QAI Exam: ( Visit www.softwarecertifications.org )
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Last Date to apply: 2 months before exam date
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· Foundation Level
· Advanced Level
· Expert Level
· Technical Tester
· Functional Tester
· Test Manager


   Duration: 1.5 month (Every Sun and Sat 9.30 am to 11.30 am & 12.00
to2.00 pm)
   Fees: Rs. 3000/-(Inclusive of Study mtl, Question bank &
CaseStudies, Mock Tests, etc.)
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   Forthcoming Exam dates:  Online exam
   Exam fees: Rs 4000+ to be paid to ISTQB,
   Exam Center: Hyderabad, Mumbai and other metros

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· Foundation Level
· Advanced Level
· Expert Level

   Duration: 1.5 month (Every Sun and Sat 9.30 am to 11.30 am & 12.00
to2.00 pm)
   Fees: Rs. 6000/-(Inclusive of Study mtl, Question bank &
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positions.

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Hi MaC,

Good to hear from you.
I am very curious to see what you've got.
By the way, I could also make some progress on my tab library.
I hope I can finalize it soon.

Best regards & till soon,
dean

--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@...> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
> Sorry for the delay :(
> I'm done with coding, and documenting. Generic keyword, screenshoter,
> etc. all is there, even TestDirector integration.
>
> I'll have a meeting about what to give back to the open source
> community by next week, so keep fingers crossed :)
>
> BR;
> MaC
>
> --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "drajovic1" <drajovic@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi MaC,
> >
> > thanks a lot for your tips.
> > I did not know TRK. The Belgian behind it seems to be a really cool
> > guy. Unfortunately, nothing really helped because the disc is hardware
> > locked (i.e. there is no chance to get to the data unless you pass
> > that password).
> >
> > I am very hapy to see such an engaged guy in our group.
> > I don't use skype (or any other instant messager) because I hardly
> > find time for on-line discussions (see with this mail how much it
> > takes me to answer simple questions). So, you will have to write
> > things down here, sorry. :))
> > I would be glad if we gave EMOS Framework another kick.
> >
> > So, just start with anything you find most important (or annoying).
> > I will be with you as much as I can find time for it.
> > It would be great if you could supply the screenshot feature.
> >
> > By the way, I am working on a feature that would elegantly check tab
> > sequence in dialogues. Due to the system crash I have been knoked down
> > a bit on this issue. If you have any ideas in this direction, it would
> > be great if we could join.
> >
> > Oh, by the way, everything that I've done on EMOS Framework since I
> > left EMOS was for free and there is no much chance to earn a cent with
> > it in future either. If any donation gets astray on sourceforge, I am
> > of course willing to share it with whoever contributes to it (however,
> > I am very sceptical about it ;-)
> >
> > So, welcome to the team and surely talk to you soon,
> > dean
> >
> >
> > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there!
> > >
> > > My bad, I know how that feels :(
> > >
> > > I really am not a windows guru (prefer to use OS X), but I think
your
> > > problem is related to the encryption features of NTFS. AFAK
there are
> > > some tools to recover from that, most  notably
> > > http://trinityhome.org/trk/
> > > and
> > > http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html
> > >
> > > I am very glad, that there is such a thing as EMOS and that it is
> > > under the LGPL.
> > > Just as I mentioned, I was building a very (speaking of Ideas and
> > > basic principles) similar framework. Yet it was a bit superior
to EMOS
> > > most notably in the ways of
> > > - having its own visual(!) testcase database (even superior to TD)
> > > - XML based data exchange
> > > - automated backreporting
> > > - generic keyword
> > > - distributed testing (based on STAF)
> > > - many "sidefeatures" (ie. taking screenshots)
> > >
> > > Of course my old company put years of development into it, but they
> > > are not willing
> > > to give away a line of it (not even for money) :(
> > >
> > > So this is where EMOS comes in. Maybe it would make sense to extend
> > > it, in many ways, while keeping up its basic principles. For
instance
> > > that the order of the controls is fixed->we had a different approach
> > > (based on technical names), but I like the idea of EMOS a lot more.
> > > Yet there is to much to speak about here.
> > > Maybe  if you happen to have a skype , we could have a chat
about it.
> > > I speak German too, making it even more simple :)
> > >
> > > I had a look at the wizard to and its a nice idea, but it misses
some
> > > important features for me and its also a bit buggy.
> > > Another missing thing - for me - is the the link to some testcase
> > > database, or Testdirector (though if I gather correctly, it is
> > > supported in the professional version).
> > >
> > > Oh, and BTW. there was some development to EMOS: I added the
> > > screenshot support, I will send you my changes, if my current
company
> > > allows me to (I hope so).
> > >
> > > Anyways, I am already doing the first project with EMOS and even
with
> > > NONE development it is great stuff with great design!
> > >
> > > So thanks to all of you!
> > >
> > > BR;
> > > MaC
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "drajovic1" <drajovic@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi MaC,
> > > >
> > > > sorry for the delayed answer. The hardisk on my notebook
sudenly got
> > > > the password turned on (that I've never set!?!) so I have lost all
> > > > data and had to rebuild stuff from scratch. Since yesterday
I'm back
> > > > online (partially). Back to your question...
> > > >
> > > > One could of course build such function.
> > > > However, we never really felt the need for it because, as Carsten
> > > > pointed out correctly, we hardly ever code something from scratch.
> > > > Instead, we use the wizard to initially generate most of the
stuff
> > > and
> > > > then just maintain the changes.
> > > >
> > > > You are of course free to try the change. This however will
probably
> > > > change some of the very basic design pronciples. This in
itself is
> > > not
> > > >  a bad thing (there has been no major development on EMOS
Framework
> > > > for more than three years) but you will have to prove that your
> > > > assumptions (about rare exceptions) are true and then you will
have
> > > to
> > > > document the changes.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > dean
> > > >
> > > > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, Carsten Büche <cbueche@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Best place to download the wizzard is:
> > > > >
> > > > > "http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/emos-
> > > > > framework/FrameworkTools_v0_1.zip"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Carsten
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, Carsten Büche <cbueche@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i am shure Dean will give you a more specific answer but:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did you realize that there is a "GEN" mode to set data
from the
> > > UI
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the datatable?
> > > > > > Also in the wizzard "emos_frm_wizard.zip "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EMOS_framework/files/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you can select each object?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Carsten
> > > > > > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@>
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi there!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am new to EMOS, but I was developing a similar framework
> > > for
> > > > > over
> > > > > > > years. Regrettably one that is not open source ƒ¼
> > > > > > > Now maybe I get something wrong, but it seems to me that
EMOS
> > > is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > capable of recognising the UI primitives by itself.
> > > > > > > In the block statements I had a look at, there are always a
> > > > > > specific
> > > > > > > calls to some of the existing FRM stuff. Why is that? Why
> > > isn¡¦t
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > just a generic WR function that would try to identify
the UI
> > > > > > element
> > > > > > > (i.e. using some  information taken from the guimap, like
> > > class)
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > call the right FRM function. This still could be overridden
> > > in
> > > > > > > special cases or if this method fails, but for most
standard
> > > > > > controls
> > > > > > > it should just work fine. This would save a lot of time, as
> > > only
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > special blocks had to be coded, not every block, as of now!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think I could write something like that in a short period.
> > > > > > > What do you think, would it make sense?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BR;
> > > > > > > MaC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > p.s.: I also speak German, if you prefer to...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi!


Sorry for the delay :(
I'm done with coding, and documenting. Generic keyword, screenshoter,
etc. all is there, even TestDirector integration.

I'll have a meeting about what to give back to the open source
community by next week, so keep fingers crossed :)

BR;
MaC

--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "drajovic1" <drajovic@...> wrote:
>
> Hi MaC,
>
> thanks a lot for your tips.
> I did not know TRK. The Belgian behind it seems to be a really cool
> guy. Unfortunately, nothing really helped because the disc is hardware
> locked (i.e. there is no chance to get to the data unless you pass
> that password).
>
> I am very hapy to see such an engaged guy in our group.
> I don't use skype (or any other instant messager) because I hardly
> find time for on-line discussions (see with this mail how much it
> takes me to answer simple questions). So, you will have to write
> things down here, sorry. :))
> I would be glad if we gave EMOS Framework another kick.
>
> So, just start with anything you find most important (or annoying).
> I will be with you as much as I can find time for it.
> It would be great if you could supply the screenshot feature.
>
> By the way, I am working on a feature that would elegantly check tab
> sequence in dialogues. Due to the system crash I have been knoked down
> a bit on this issue. If you have any ideas in this direction, it would
> be great if we could join.
>
> Oh, by the way, everything that I've done on EMOS Framework since I
> left EMOS was for free and there is no much chance to earn a cent with
> it in future either. If any donation gets astray on sourceforge, I am
> of course willing to share it with whoever contributes to it (however,
> I am very sceptical about it ;-)
>
> So, welcome to the team and surely talk to you soon,
> dean
>
>
> --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there!
> >
> > My bad, I know how that feels :(
> >
> > I really am not a windows guru (prefer to use OS X), but I think your
> > problem is related to the encryption features of NTFS. AFAK there are
> > some tools to recover from that, most  notably
> > http://trinityhome.org/trk/
> > and
> > http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html
> >
> > I am very glad, that there is such a thing as EMOS and that it is
> > under the LGPL.
> > Just as I mentioned, I was building a very (speaking of Ideas and
> > basic principles) similar framework. Yet it was a bit superior to EMOS
> > most notably in the ways of
> > - having its own visual(!) testcase database (even superior to TD)
> > - XML based data exchange
> > - automated backreporting
> > - generic keyword
> > - distributed testing (based on STAF)
> > - many "sidefeatures" (ie. taking screenshots)
> >
> > Of course my old company put years of development into it, but they
> > are not willing
> > to give away a line of it (not even for money) :(
> >
> > So this is where EMOS comes in. Maybe it would make sense to extend
> > it, in many ways, while keeping up its basic principles. For instance
> > that the order of the controls is fixed->we had a different approach
> > (based on technical names), but I like the idea of EMOS a lot more.
> > Yet there is to much to speak about here.
> > Maybe  if you happen to have a skype , we could have a chat about it.
> > I speak German too, making it even more simple :)
> >
> > I had a look at the wizard to and its a nice idea, but it misses some
> > important features for me and its also a bit buggy.
> > Another missing thing - for me - is the the link to some testcase
> > database, or Testdirector (though if I gather correctly, it is
> > supported in the professional version).
> >
> > Oh, and BTW. there was some development to EMOS: I added the
> > screenshot support, I will send you my changes, if my current company
> > allows me to (I hope so).
> >
> > Anyways, I am already doing the first project with EMOS and even with
> > NONE development it is great stuff with great design!
> >
> > So thanks to all of you!
> >
> > BR;
> > MaC
> >
> >
> > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "drajovic1" <drajovic@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi MaC,
> > >
> > > sorry for the delayed answer. The hardisk on my notebook sudenly got
> > > the password turned on (that I've never set!?!) so I have lost all
> > > data and had to rebuild stuff from scratch. Since yesterday I'm back
> > > online (partially). Back to your question...
> > >
> > > One could of course build such function.
> > > However, we never really felt the need for it because, as Carsten
> > > pointed out correctly, we hardly ever code something from scratch.
> > > Instead, we use the wizard to initially generate most of the stuff
> > and
> > > then just maintain the changes.
> > >
> > > You are of course free to try the change. This however will probably
> > > change some of the very basic design pronciples. This in itself is
> > not
> > >  a bad thing (there has been no major development on EMOS Framework
> > > for more than three years) but you will have to prove that your
> > > assumptions (about rare exceptions) are true and then you will have
> > to
> > > document the changes.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > dean
> > >
> > > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, Carsten Büche <cbueche@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Best place to download the wizzard is:
> > > >
> > > > "http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/emos-
> > > > framework/FrameworkTools_v0_1.zip"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Carsten
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, Carsten Büche <cbueche@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > i am shure Dean will give you a more specific answer but:
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you realize that there is a "GEN" mode to set data from the
> > UI
> > > > in
> > > > > the datatable?
> > > > > Also in the wizzard "emos_frm_wizard.zip "
> > > > >
> > > > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EMOS_framework/files/
> > > > >
> > > > > you can select each object?
> > > > >
> > > > > Carsten
> > > > > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi there!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am new to EMOS, but I was developing a similar framework
> > for
> > > > over
> > > > > > years. Regrettably one that is not open source ƒ¼
> > > > > > Now maybe I get something wrong, but it seems to me that EMOS
> > is
> > > > > not
> > > > > > capable of recognising the UI primitives by itself.
> > > > > > In the block statements I had a look at, there are always a
> > > > > specific
> > > > > > calls to some of the existing FRM stuff. Why is that? Why
> > isn¡¦t
> > > > > there
> > > > > > just a generic WR function that would try to identify the UI
> > > > > element
> > > > > > (i.e. using some  information taken from the guimap, like
> > class)
> > > > > and
> > > > > > call the right FRM function. This still could be overridden
> > in
> > > > > > special cases or if this method fails, but for most standard
> > > > > controls
> > > > > > it should just work fine. This would save a lot of time, as
> > only
> > > > > the
> > > > > > special blocks had to be coded, not every block, as of now!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think I could write something like that in a short period.
> > > > > > What do you think, would it make sense?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BR;
> > > > > > MaC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > p.s.: I also speak German, if you prefer to...
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi MaC,

thanks a lot for your tips.
I did not know TRK. The Belgian behind it seems to be a really cool
guy. Unfortunately, nothing really helped because the disc is hardware
locked (i.e. there is no chance to get to the data unless you pass
that password).

I am very hapy to see such an engaged guy in our group.
I don't use skype (or any other instant messager) because I hardly
find time for on-line discussions (see with this mail how much it
takes me to answer simple questions). So, you will have to write
things down here, sorry. :))
I would be glad if we gave EMOS Framework another kick.

So, just start with anything you find most important (or annoying).
I will be with you as much as I can find time for it.
It would be great if you could supply the screenshot feature.

By the way, I am working on a feature that would elegantly check tab
sequence in dialogues. Due to the system crash I have been knoked down
a bit on this issue. If you have any ideas in this direction, it would
be great if we could join.

Oh, by the way, everything that I've done on EMOS Framework since I
left EMOS was for free and there is no much chance to earn a cent with
it in future either. If any donation gets astray on sourceforge, I am
of course willing to share it with whoever contributes to it (however,
I am very sceptical about it ;-)

So, welcome to the team and surely talk to you soon,
dean


--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@...> wrote:
>
> Hi there!
>
> My bad, I know how that feels :(
>
> I really am not a windows guru (prefer to use OS X), but I think your
> problem is related to the encryption features of NTFS. AFAK there are
> some tools to recover from that, most  notably
> http://trinityhome.org/trk/
> and
> http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html
>
> I am very glad, that there is such a thing as EMOS and that it is
> under the LGPL.
> Just as I mentioned, I was building a very (speaking of Ideas and
> basic principles) similar framework. Yet it was a bit superior to EMOS
> most notably in the ways of
> - having its own visual(!) testcase database (even superior to TD)
> - XML based data exchange
> - automated backreporting
> - generic keyword
> - distributed testing (based on STAF)
> - many "sidefeatures" (ie. taking screenshots)
>
> Of course my old company put years of development into it, but they
> are not willing
> to give away a line of it (not even for money) :(
>
> So this is where EMOS comes in. Maybe it would make sense to extend
> it, in many ways, while keeping up its basic principles. For instance
> that the order of the controls is fixed->we had a different approach
> (based on technical names), but I like the idea of EMOS a lot more.
> Yet there is to much to speak about here.
> Maybe  if you happen to have a skype , we could have a chat about it.
> I speak German too, making it even more simple :)
>
> I had a look at the wizard to and its a nice idea, but it misses some
> important features for me and its also a bit buggy.
> Another missing thing - for me - is the the link to some testcase
> database, or Testdirector (though if I gather correctly, it is
> supported in the professional version).
>
> Oh, and BTW. there was some development to EMOS: I added the
> screenshot support, I will send you my changes, if my current company
> allows me to (I hope so).
>
> Anyways, I am already doing the first project with EMOS and even with
> NONE development it is great stuff with great design!
>
> So thanks to all of you!
>
> BR;
> MaC
>
>
> --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "drajovic1" <drajovic@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi MaC,
> >
> > sorry for the delayed answer. The hardisk on my notebook sudenly got
> > the password turned on (that I've never set!?!) so I have lost all
> > data and had to rebuild stuff from scratch. Since yesterday I'm back
> > online (partially). Back to your question...
> >
> > One could of course build such function.
> > However, we never really felt the need for it because, as Carsten
> > pointed out correctly, we hardly ever code something from scratch.
> > Instead, we use the wizard to initially generate most of the stuff
> and
> > then just maintain the changes.
> >
> > You are of course free to try the change. This however will probably
> > change some of the very basic design pronciples. This in itself is
> not
> >  a bad thing (there has been no major development on EMOS Framework
> > for more than three years) but you will have to prove that your
> > assumptions (about rare exceptions) are true and then you will have
> to
> > document the changes.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > dean
> >
> > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, Carsten Büche <cbueche@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Best place to download the wizzard is:
> > >
> > > "http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/emos-
> > > framework/FrameworkTools_v0_1.zip"
> > >
> > >
> > > Carsten
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, Carsten Büche <cbueche@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > i am shure Dean will give you a more specific answer but:
> > > >
> > > > Did you realize that there is a "GEN" mode to set data from the
> UI
> > > in
> > > > the datatable?
> > > > Also in the wizzard "emos_frm_wizard.zip "
> > > >
> > > > in
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EMOS_framework/files/
> > > >
> > > > you can select each object?
> > > >
> > > > Carsten
> > > > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi there!
> > > > >
> > > > > I am new to EMOS, but I was developing a similar framework
> for
> > > over
> > > > > years. Regrettably one that is not open source ƒ¼
> > > > > Now maybe I get something wrong, but it seems to me that EMOS
> is
> > > > not
> > > > > capable of recognising the UI primitives by itself.
> > > > > In the block statements I had a look at, there are always a
> > > > specific
> > > > > calls to some of the existing FRM stuff. Why is that? Why
> isn¡¦t
> > > > there
> > > > > just a generic WR function that would try to identify the UI
> > > > element
> > > > > (i.e. using some  information taken from the guimap, like
> class)
> > > > and
> > > > > call the right FRM function. This still could be overridden
> in
> > > > > special cases or if this method fails, but for most standard
> > > > controls
> > > > > it should just work fine. This would save a lot of time, as
> only
> > > > the
> > > > > special blocks had to be coded, not every block, as of now!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think I could write something like that in a short period.
> > > > > What do you think, would it make sense?
> > > > >
> > > > > BR;
> > > > > MaC
> > > > >
> > > > > p.s.: I also speak German, if you prefer to...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi there!

My bad, I know how that feels :(

I really am not a windows guru (prefer to use OS X), but I think your
problem is related to the encryption features of NTFS. AFAK there are
some tools to recover from that, most  notably
http://trinityhome.org/trk/
and
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html

I am very glad, that there is such a thing as EMOS and that it is
under the LGPL.
Just as I mentioned, I was building a very (speaking of Ideas and
basic principles) similar framework. Yet it was a bit superior to EMOS
most notably in the ways of
- having its own visual(!) testcase database (even superior to TD)
- XML based data exchange
- automated backreporting
- generic keyword
- distributed testing (based on STAF)
- many "sidefeatures" (ie. taking screenshots)

Of course my old company put years of development into it, but they
are not willing
to give away a line of it (not even for money) :(

So this is where EMOS comes in. Maybe it would make sense to extend
it, in many ways, while keeping up its basic principles. For instance
that the order of the controls is fixed->we had a different approach
(based on technical names), but I like the idea of EMOS a lot more.
Yet there is to much to speak about here.
Maybe  if you happen to have a skype , we could have a chat about it.
I speak German too, making it even more simple :)

I had a look at the wizard to and its a nice idea, but it misses some
important features for me and its also a bit buggy.
Another missing thing - for me - is the the link to some testcase
database, or Testdirector (though if I gather correctly, it is
supported in the professional version).

Oh, and BTW. there was some development to EMOS: I added the
screenshot support, I will send you my changes, if my current company
allows me to (I hope so).

Anyways, I am already doing the first project with EMOS and even with
NONE development it is great stuff with great design!

So thanks to all of you!

BR;
MaC


--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "drajovic1" <drajovic@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi MaC,
>
> sorry for the delayed answer. The hardisk on my notebook sudenly got
> the password turned on (that I've never set!?!) so I have lost all
> data and had to rebuild stuff from scratch. Since yesterday I'm back
> online (partially). Back to your question...
>
> One could of course build such function.
> However, we never really felt the need for it because, as Carsten
> pointed out correctly, we hardly ever code something from scratch.
> Instead, we use the wizard to initially generate most of the stuff
and
> then just maintain the changes.
>
> You are of course free to try the change. This however will probably
> change some of the very basic design pronciples. This in itself is
not
>  a bad thing (there has been no major development on EMOS Framework
> for more than three years) but you will have to prove that your
> assumptions (about rare exceptions) are true and then you will have
to
> document the changes.
>
> Best regards,
> dean
>
> --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, Carsten Büche <cbueche@>
wrote:
> >
> > Best place to download the wizzard is:
> >
> > "http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/emos-
> > framework/FrameworkTools_v0_1.zip"
> >
> >
> > Carsten
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, Carsten Büche <cbueche@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > i am shure Dean will give you a more specific answer but:
> > >
> > > Did you realize that there is a "GEN" mode to set data from the
UI
> > in
> > > the datatable?
> > > Also in the wizzard "emos_frm_wizard.zip "
> > >
> > > in
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EMOS_framework/files/
> > >
> > > you can select each object?
> > >
> > > Carsten
> > > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi there!
> > > >
> > > > I am new to EMOS, but I was developing a similar framework
for
> > over
> > > > years. Regrettably one that is not open source ƒ¼
> > > > Now maybe I get something wrong, but it seems to me that EMOS
is
> > > not
> > > > capable of recognising the UI primitives by itself.
> > > > In the block statements I had a look at, there are always a
> > > specific
> > > > calls to some of the existing FRM stuff. Why is that? Why
isn¡¦t
> > > there
> > > > just a generic WR function that would try to identify the UI
> > > element
> > > > (i.e. using some  information taken from the guimap, like
class)
> > > and
> > > > call the right FRM function. This still could be overridden
in
> > > > special cases or if this method fails, but for most standard
> > > controls
> > > > it should just work fine. This would save a lot of time, as
only
> > > the
> > > > special blocks had to be coded, not every block, as of now!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think I could write something like that in a short period.
> > > > What do you think, would it make sense?
> > > >
> > > > BR;
> > > > MaC
> > > >
> > > > p.s.: I also speak German, if you prefer to...
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

hi biju,

what does WR record when you press that radio button?
EMOS API is just a wrapper for the standard WR functions.
So the problem is most likely not related to Framework but to
the underlying WR functionality.
Somtimes are objects that are embeded in table cells acting as objects
on its own - you first have to focus on them (e.g. single click) to
make them visible to WR.

Use recording to find out how WR handles the object natively (make
sure it also replays correctly). Then try to integrate this into
framework. In emos_frm_tbl_lib on line 500 you can see an ugly example
of handling such embeded objects. This probably work with your button
but might give you a direction to search.

Best regards,
dean

--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "testingautomation"
<testingautomation@...> wrote:
>
>
> hi dean
>
>
>
> i am facing percuiliar powerbuilder scripting problem that is the radio
> button field is not set althogh the particular table is set i.e
>
> tbl_set_selected_cell  command set the right coloumn/row however  it
> does not clicks the requiste button
>
> say let us represent @ = radiobutton so ina screen if we have
>
>                             @ dean
>
> the scipt during execution selects "dean "but doesnot actually click the
> radio buttton(@), the same is not set by the command "
>
> tbl_set_cell_data" the behaviour happens to be the same.  emos api s are
> also  not working  kidly help
>
>
>
>
>
> cheers biju
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi MaC,

sorry for the delayed answer. The hardisk on my notebook sudenly got
the password turned on (that I've never set!?!) so I have lost all
data and had to rebuild stuff from scratch. Since yesterday I'm back
online (partially). Back to your question...

One could of course build such function.
However, we never really felt the need for it because, as Carsten
pointed out correctly, we hardly ever code something from scratch.
Instead, we use the wizard to initially generate most of the stuff and
then just maintain the changes.

You are of course free to try the change. This however will probably
change some of the very basic design pronciples. This in itself is not
  a bad thing (there has been no major development on EMOS Framework
for more than three years) but you will have to prove that your
assumptions (about rare exceptions) are true and then you will have to
document the changes.

Best regards,
dean

--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, Carsten Büche <cbueche@...> wrote:
>
> Best place to download the wizzard is:
>
> "http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/emos-
> framework/FrameworkTools_v0_1.zip"
>
>
> Carsten
>
>
>
> --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, Carsten Büche <cbueche@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > i am shure Dean will give you a more specific answer but:
> >
> > Did you realize that there is a "GEN" mode to set data from the UI
> in
> > the datatable?
> > Also in the wizzard "emos_frm_wizard.zip "
> >
> > in
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EMOS_framework/files/
> >
> > you can select each object?
> >
> > Carsten
> > --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there!
> > >
> > > I am new to EMOS, but I was developing a similar framework for
> over
> > > years. Regrettably one that is not open source ƒ¼
> > > Now maybe I get something wrong, but it seems to me that EMOS is
> > not
> > > capable of recognising the UI primitives by itself.
> > > In the block statements I had a look at, there are always a
> > specific
> > > calls to some of the existing FRM stuff. Why is that? Why isn¡¦t
> > there
> > > just a generic WR function that would try to identify the UI
> > element
> > > (i.e. using some  information taken from the guimap, like class)
> > and
> > > call the right FRM function. This still could be overridden in
> > > special cases or if this method fails, but for most standard
> > controls
> > > it should just work fine. This would save a lot of time, as only
> > the
> > > special blocks had to be coded, not every block, as of now!
> > >
> > >
> > > I think I could write something like that in a short period.
> > > What do you think, would it make sense?
> > >
> > > BR;
> > > MaC
> > >
> > > p.s.: I also speak German, if you prefer to...
> > >
> >
>

Best place to download the wizzard is:

"http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/emos-
framework/FrameworkTools_v0_1.zip"


Carsten



--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, Carsten Büche <cbueche@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> i am shure Dean will give you a more specific answer but:
>
> Did you realize that there is a "GEN" mode to set data from the UI
in
> the datatable?
> Also in the wizzard "emos_frm_wizard.zip "
>
> in
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EMOS_framework/files/
>
> you can select each object?
>
> Carsten
> --- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there!
> >
> > I am new to EMOS, but I was developing a similar framework for
over
> > years. Regrettably one that is not open source ƒ¼
> > Now maybe I get something wrong, but it seems to me that EMOS is
> not
> > capable of recognising the UI primitives by itself.
> > In the block statements I had a look at, there are always a
> specific
> > calls to some of the existing FRM stuff. Why is that? Why isn¡¦t
> there
> > just a generic WR function that would try to identify the UI
> element
> > (i.e. using some  information taken from the guimap, like class)
> and
> > call the right FRM function. This still could be overridden in
> > special cases or if this method fails, but for most standard
> controls
> > it should just work fine. This would save a lot of time, as only
> the
> > special blocks had to be coded, not every block, as of now!
> >
> >
> > I think I could write something like that in a short period.
> > What do you think, would it make sense?
> >
> > BR;
> > MaC
> >
> > p.s.: I also speak German, if you prefer to...
> >
>

Hi,

i am shure Dean will give you a more specific answer but:

Did you realize that there is a "GEN" mode to set data from the UI in
the datatable?
Also in the wizzard "emos_frm_wizard.zip "

in

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EMOS_framework/files/

you can select each object?

Carsten
--- In EMOS_framework@yahoogroups.com, "mac_onic" <mac@...> wrote:
>
> Hi there!
>
> I am new to EMOS, but I was developing a similar framework for over
> years. Regrettably one that is not open source ƒ¼
> Now maybe I get something wrong, but it seems to me that EMOS is
not
> capable of recognising the UI primitives by itself.
> In the block statements I had a look at, there are always a
specific
> calls to some of the existing FRM stuff. Why is that? Why isn¡¦t
there
> just a generic WR function that would try to identify the UI
element
> (i.e. using some  information taken from the guimap, like class)
and
> call the right FRM function. This still could be overridden in
> special cases or if this method fails, but for most standard
controls
> it should just work fine. This would save a lot of time, as only
the
> special blocks had to be coded, not every block, as of now!
>
>
> I think I could write something like that in a short period.
> What do you think, would it make sense?
>
> BR;
> MaC
>
> p.s.: I also speak German, if you prefer to...
>