Hello All,
A few of the best places I've found for free online petitioning can be
found here:
http://www.online-petition.com
and here:
http://www.ethical-business.com/
Some of the petitions on the first site get more than 100,000 online
signatures!
I guess we would have to decide if we wanted signatures from U.S. residents
only, or a worldwide petition, or separate petitions for each country.
People can still go door-to-door to gain signatures, with a disclosure to
each of the signatories that their names will be uploaded to an online
petition site. Then it would be up to the person going door-to-door to
enter the names onto the online petition. This way we have a central place
for all signatures that is very easily accessible to everyone.
Has anyone begun to draw up a statement that we can use to explain our
position with regard to an ET contact law? Perhaps we can all hash
something out together here in this group, and when we get something fine
tuned we can upload it to one (or both!) of the sites above, and begin an
email campaign to get signatures.
How does that sound to everyone?
Kind regards,
Jennifer Kreitzer
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All great ideas. The concept would be to spend time discussing the
exact wording, making sure it contains all the positive phrasing
necessary and fine tune it until it's ready either for signatures or to
be made into a bill to become law. Those familiar with such legal
procedures could help to suggest how this may best come about.
Darryl
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, at 06:49 PM, alignedwiththesource wrote:
>
> I think we should make sure that the military doesn't get involved
> through the use of any unnecessary force. I just think back to ET
> and how involved the government got and how the first thing they
> wanted to do was study et and all that stuff, I just think the law
> should incorporate some type of claus that states that no et should
> be subject to governmental scrutiny or military violence as long as
> the beings have made the gesture of coming in peace.
>
>
> --- In ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Green" <cgreen@s...>
> wrote:
> > Greetings!
> > I appreciate your thoughts and energy regarding the E.T. Open
> Contact Law. Could you please elaborate on why you
> > believe some comments about the military and use of force would be
> necessary in the wording of the law? thanks Charlie
>
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I think we should make sure that the military doesn't get involved
through the use of any unnecessary force. I just think back to ET
and how involved the government got and how the first thing they
wanted to do was study et and all that stuff, I just think the law
should incorporate some type of claus that states that no et should
be subject to governmental scrutiny or military violence as long as
the beings have made the gesture of coming in peace.
--- In ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Green" <cgreen@s...>
wrote:
> Greetings!
> I appreciate your thoughts and energy regarding the E.T. Open
Contact Law. Could you please elaborate on why you
> believe some comments about the military and use of force would be
necessary in the wording of the law? thanks Charlie
Hi Nora,
Yes, the group is open to anyone who is interested in participating in this
endeavor.
All the best,
April
At 10:10 PM 10/25/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Darryl:
>
>Yes, this is what I had understood from the get-go. I have several
>interested people in participating
>with this new law and a petition. Can I refer them to join this group? Thanks.
>Nora
>
Greetings!
I appreciate your thoughts and energy regarding the E.T. Open Contact Law.
Could you please elaborate on why you
believe some comments about the military and use of force would be necessary in
the wording of the law? thanks Charlie
Greetings Ismarelda!
Thanks for your comments. I was not the one suggesting internet petitions. Your
experience seems to be useful however,
what state are you from? What is the process of passing a law there? What will
you do with the petitions you obtain?
What will that 'office' do with it? What sort of numbers are you looking at with
regard to signatures? What is
required? I apprecite your experience and research. Thanks
Charlie
Greetings Nora!
Thanks for your comment about valid signatures with petitions. Would it be
possible for you to find out the exact
process of doing this legally and get back? I am only speaking for myself ; but
would like to know the legalities so
that time and effort for someone is not wasted or results thrown out because of
some technicalities. Also, I made no
comment about petitions but saw one from a message "aligned with the source". I
appreciate your efforts.
Charlie
Greetings!
Thanks for your message concerning the validity of signatures obtained from the
internet. I am of the same opinion as
you. For the purpose of reflecting interest or support or awareness they may
have valid use but probably not legally. I
responded to "aligned with the source" and asked the very same question. I also
appreciate that here in Canada,
passing a law, may have different requirements than in the U.S. I have not yet
read a definitive statement concerning
the exact procudure necessary to pass a law. Also, in Canada there are
Provincial Laws and Federal Laws which are
probably comparable to State and Federal Laws in the U.S. Please get back to me
if you can assist in research regarding
this process. To be succinct How is a law passed? Thanks for your involvement in
this process and your energy.
Charlie
Somewhere in the law I feel we must include an area in regards to
military interference with regards to undue force and the like. I
know getting over one's fear and trust issues is going to play a big
part in this, so stratigically wording this as not to raise to many
issues is the key component. Also like Bashar said we want to phrase
it in such a way that the alignment of the vibration is such that
this law would only allow for sentient beings coming in peace. I
know there is no them but they might not get that ;0)
Anyway we can do this. Just brain storm and align with your higher
selves on this one and ask for the guidance we need.
Dave
Would it then be the right thing to go about collectively creating
the law then getting signatures to put that in place??
Because then we have a great project before us and we can really put
together a new law which would really allow contact for all of us as
long as it is with benevolent beings.
Than't the reality I choose to resonate with :)
-Dave
Hi Nora,
You'll need to check with April to see if there's still room in this
particular group.
Hugs,
Darryl
On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 10:10 PM, E. Nora Amrani wrote:
> Hi Darryl:
>
> Yes, this is what I had understood from the get-go. I have several
> interested people in participating
> with this new law and a petition. Can I refer them to join this group?
> Thanks.
> Nora
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ziafilms
> To: ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:40 PM
> Subject: [ET_Contact_Law] Old ET Exposure Law
>
>
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Just a quick reminder that the old ET exposure law is already
> rescinded so
> there's no need to create a petion to have it removed from the
> books. All we
> need to do is create the Open Contact Law and help bring about a
> unified
> global approach to ET contact.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Darryl
>
>
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>
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Hi Darryl:
Yes, this is what I had understood from the get-go. I have several interested
people in participating
with this new law and a petition. Can I refer them to join this group? Thanks.
Nora
----- Original Message -----
From: ziafilms
To: ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:40 PM
Subject: [ET_Contact_Law] Old ET Exposure Law
Hi Everyone,
Just a quick reminder that the old ET exposure law is already rescinded so
there's no need to create a petion to have it removed from the books. All we
need to do is create the Open Contact Law and help bring about a unified
global approach to ET contact.
Blessings,
Darryl
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Hi Everyone,
Just a quick reminder that the old ET exposure law is already rescinded so
there's no need to create a petion to have it removed from the books. All we
need to do is create the Open Contact Law and help bring about a unified
global approach to ET contact.
Blessings,
Darryl
Hi Darryl,
There seems to be a lot of confusion about whether this law was ever really
taken off the books entirely. I also heard that the space where this ET
exposure law was is now "reserved" for an updated law should anyone decide
to enact it. Others think that even though it may have been removed from
the books doesn't mean it was removed in theory or practice.
Regardless, I'm choosing to focus on the Open Contact Law and not scrutinize
the old law so much. It was my estimation that Bashar only talked about the
old exposure law in order to segue into the more important aspect, which was
to create something new and positive that will show our collective
willingness to have a more open contact with Bashar and others.
Kind regards,
Jennifer
On 10/25/04 9:22 PM, "Darryl Anka" <ziafilms@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave and Ismarelda,
>
> Just a reminder regarding your petition: The old ET exposure law has
> already been taken off the books, so it's no longer necessary to get
> people to sign a petition to remove the old law. It's only necessary to
> create an Open Contact Law to unify everyone's approach to ET contact.
>
> All the best,
>
> Darryl
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 08:59 PM, Ismarelda Adleramsi wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>> I am in favor of this and in no way want to discourage
>> you. I would like to see this succeed. I applaud you
>> for your efforts!
>>
>> Ismarelda
>>
>>
>> --- alignedwiththesource
>> <alignedwiththesource@...> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have gotten email petitions before and they held
>>> just as much
>>> validity as any signed thing as well, but my hopes
>>> were that possibly
>>> one might eventually print the dosument and begin
>>> obtaining
>>> signatures door to dooe as well. I will be doing so
>>> shortly. I had
>>> been working on this before this group was started
>>> and now that we
>>> have a group it will be so much easier to get
>>> suggestions on how to
>>> do this as logistically as possible.
>>> Dave
>>> --- In ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com, Ismarelda
>>> Adleramsi
>>> <ismarelda_adleramsi@y...> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I was under the impression and possibly wrongly
>>> so,
>>>> that in order for any petition to hold validity
>>> there
>>>> had to be actual legal signatures. Is that not
>>> true?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ismarelda
>>>>
>>>> --- alignedwiththesource
>>>> <alignedwiththesource@y...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Title 14 section 1211 of the federal
>>> regulations:
>>>>> If you should come into contact with a life form
>>> of
>>>>> any kind from off
>>>>> of
>>>>> your world, you are subject to quarantine, fine
>>> and
>>>>> imprisonment.
>>>>> This law was ostensibly created for the idea of
>>>>> preventing exposure
>>>>> to what
>>>>> you would call virulent alien organisms,
>>> pathogens,
>>>>> and such. This
>>>>> was implemented in 1969 when we landed on the
>>> moon,
>>>>> but the idea was stated broadly enough, with
>>>>> intention behind it,
>>>>> that it wasn't just relegated to the idea of
>>>>> pathogens but to any
>>>>> extraterrestrial life form whatsoever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our idea is to change this law so that our
>>> nation
>>>>> and as many nations
>>>>> as possible throughout the world will also
>>>>> incorporate this change so
>>>>> then we can create a new law supporting the
>>>>> possibility of open
>>>>> contact. Our collective belief through
>>> obtaining
>>>>> signatures will
>>>>> then help us to script and then change the law
>>> to
>>>>> allow for the
>>>>> possibility of contact with benevolent beings.
>>> When
>>>>> we have the
>>>>> majority of the people on Earth acknowledging
>>> and
>>>>> accepting and
>>>>> approving of open contact with other sentient
>>> and
>>>>> benevolent beings
>>>>> throughout the universe then we can allow
>>> contact to
>>>>> occur when and
>>>>> where it should in a peaceful manner.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have created this document as a way to
>>> circulate a
>>>>> grand petition
>>>>> over the internet. As we collect more and more
>>>>> signatures I will
>>>>> eventually, with the help of others make a tally
>>> of
>>>>> how many people
>>>>> have actually signed this page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also if you do have a list of people please
>>> respect
>>>>> their privacy by
>>>>> using a blank carbon copy, thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> To keep this as uniform as possible, as you get
>>> the
>>>>> list put the
>>>>> number that comes next on the list next to your
>>> name
>>>>> then forward it
>>>>> back to me at
>>>>> alignedwiththesource@y...
>>>>> and to as many of your friends as possible
>>> keeping
>>>>> these instructions
>>>>> with the list so that we can make sense of this
>>> as
>>>>> easily as
>>>>> possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Petition to change Title 14 section 1211 of the
>>>>> federal Regulations,
>>>>> by signing this petition you believe that this
>>> law
>>>>> should be changed
>>>>> in order to allow and support a new law allowing
>>> the
>>>>> possibility of
>>>>> open contact with other sentient and benevolent
>>>>> beings throughout the
>>>>> universe.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. David R. Fichera
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Hi Darryl,
There seems to be some confusion about this. How can
we find out for sure? I have read that is had been
removed and that it has been moved. Can we verify
this?
Is anyone currently working on writing the Open
Contact Law?
Thanks,
Ismarelda
--- Darryl Anka <ziafilms@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave and Ismarelda,
>
> Just a reminder regarding your petition: The old ET
> exposure law has
> already been taken off the books, so it's no longer
> necessary to get
> people to sign a petition to remove the old law.
> It's only necessary to
> create an Open Contact Law to unify everyone's
> approach to ET contact.
>
> All the best,
>
> Darryl
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 08:59 PM, Ismarelda
> Adleramsi wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave,
> > I am in favor of this and in no way want to
> discourage
> > you. I would like to see this succeed. I applaud
> you
> > for your efforts!
> >
> > Ismarelda
> >
> >
> > --- alignedwiththesource
> > <alignedwiththesource@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I have gotten email petitions before and they
> held
> > > just as much
> > > validity as any signed thing as well, but my
> hopes
> > > were that possibly
> > > one might eventually print the dosument and
> begin
> > > obtaining
> > > signatures door to dooe as well. I will be
> doing so
> > > shortly. I had
> > > been working on this before this group was
> started
> > > and now that we
> > > have a group it will be so much easier to get
> > > suggestions on how to
> > > do this as logistically as possible.
> > > Dave
> > > --- In ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com, Ismarelda
> > > Adleramsi
> > > <ismarelda_adleramsi@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > I was under the impression and possibly
> wrongly
> > > so,
> > > > that in order for any petition to hold
> validity
> > > there
> > > > had to be actual legal signatures. Is that
> not
> > > true?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ismarelda
> > > >
> > > > --- alignedwiththesource
> > > > <alignedwiththesource@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Title 14 section 1211 of the federal
> > > regulations:
> > > > > If you should come into contact with a life
> form
> > > of
> > > > > any kind from off
> > > > > of
> > > > > your world, you are subject to quarantine,
> fine
> > > and
> > > > > imprisonment.
> > > > > This law was ostensibly created for the idea
> of
> > > > > preventing exposure
> > > > > to what
> > > > > you would call virulent alien organisms,
> > > pathogens,
> > > > > and such. This
> > > > > was implemented in 1969 when we landed on
> the
> > > moon,
> > > > > but the idea was stated broadly enough, with
> > > > > intention behind it,
> > > > > that it wasn't just relegated to the idea of
> > > > > pathogens but to any
> > > > > extraterrestrial life form whatsoever.
> > > > >
> > > > > Our idea is to change this law so that our
> > > nation
> > > > > and as many nations
> > > > > as possible throughout the world will also
> > > > > incorporate this change so
> > > > > then we can create a new law supporting the
> > > > > possibility of open
> > > > > contact. Our collective belief through
> > > obtaining
> > > > > signatures will
> > > > > then help us to script and then change the
> law
> > > to
> > > > > allow for the
> > > > > possibility of contact with benevolent
> beings.
> > > When
> > > > > we have the
> > > > > majority of the people on Earth
> acknowledging
> > > and
> > > > > accepting and
> > > > > approving of open contact with other
> sentient
> > > and
> > > > > benevolent beings
> > > > > throughout the universe then we can allow
> > > contact to
> > > > > occur when and
> > > > > where it should in a peaceful manner.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have created this document as a way to
> > > circulate a
> > > > > grand petition
> > > > > over the internet. As we collect more and
> more
> > > > > signatures I will
> > > > > eventually, with the help of others make a
> tally
> > > of
> > > > > how many people
> > > > > have actually signed this page.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also if you do have a list of people please
> > > respect
> > > > > their privacy by
> > > > > using a blank carbon copy, thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > To keep this as uniform as possible, as you
> get
> > > the
> > > > > list put the
> > > > > number that comes next on the list next to
> your
> > > name
> > > > > then forward it
> > > > > back to me at
> > > > > alignedwiththesource@y...
> > > > > and to as many of your friends as possible
> > > keeping
> > > > > these instructions
> > > > > with the list so that we can make sense of
> this
> > > as
> > > > > easily as
> > > > > possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Petition to change Title 14 section 1211 of
> the
> > > > > federal Regulations,
> > > > > by signing this petition you believe that
> this
> > > law
> > > > > should be changed
> > > > > in order to allow and support a new law
> allowing
> > > the
> > > > > possibility of
> > > > > open contact with other sentient and
> benevolent
> > > > > beings throughout the
> > > > > universe.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. David R. Fichera
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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Hi Dave and Ismarelda,
Just a reminder regarding your petition: The old ET exposure law has
already been taken off the books, so it's no longer necessary to get
people to sign a petition to remove the old law. It's only necessary to
create an Open Contact Law to unify everyone's approach to ET contact.
All the best,
Darryl
On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 08:59 PM, Ismarelda Adleramsi wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> I am in favor of this and in no way want to discourage
> you. I would like to see this succeed. I applaud you
> for your efforts!
>
> Ismarelda
>
>
> --- alignedwiththesource
> <alignedwiththesource@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > I have gotten email petitions before and they held
> > just as much
> > validity as any signed thing as well, but my hopes
> > were that possibly
> > one might eventually print the dosument and begin
> > obtaining
> > signatures door to dooe as well. I will be doing so
> > shortly. I had
> > been working on this before this group was started
> > and now that we
> > have a group it will be so much easier to get
> > suggestions on how to
> > do this as logistically as possible.
> > Dave
> > --- In ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com, Ismarelda
> > Adleramsi
> > <ismarelda_adleramsi@y...> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I was under the impression and possibly wrongly
> > so,
> > > that in order for any petition to hold validity
> > there
> > > had to be actual legal signatures. Is that not
> > true?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ismarelda
> > >
> > > --- alignedwiththesource
> > > <alignedwiththesource@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Title 14 section 1211 of the federal
> > regulations:
> > > > If you should come into contact with a life form
> > of
> > > > any kind from off
> > > > of
> > > > your world, you are subject to quarantine, fine
> > and
> > > > imprisonment.
> > > > This law was ostensibly created for the idea of
> > > > preventing exposure
> > > > to what
> > > > you would call virulent alien organisms,
> > pathogens,
> > > > and such. This
> > > > was implemented in 1969 when we landed on the
> > moon,
> > > > but the idea was stated broadly enough, with
> > > > intention behind it,
> > > > that it wasn't just relegated to the idea of
> > > > pathogens but to any
> > > > extraterrestrial life form whatsoever.
> > > >
> > > > Our idea is to change this law so that our
> > nation
> > > > and as many nations
> > > > as possible throughout the world will also
> > > > incorporate this change so
> > > > then we can create a new law supporting the
> > > > possibility of open
> > > > contact. Our collective belief through
> > obtaining
> > > > signatures will
> > > > then help us to script and then change the law
> > to
> > > > allow for the
> > > > possibility of contact with benevolent beings.
> > When
> > > > we have the
> > > > majority of the people on Earth acknowledging
> > and
> > > > accepting and
> > > > approving of open contact with other sentient
> > and
> > > > benevolent beings
> > > > throughout the universe then we can allow
> > contact to
> > > > occur when and
> > > > where it should in a peaceful manner.
> > > >
> > > > I have created this document as a way to
> > circulate a
> > > > grand petition
> > > > over the internet. As we collect more and more
> > > > signatures I will
> > > > eventually, with the help of others make a tally
> > of
> > > > how many people
> > > > have actually signed this page.
> > > >
> > > > Also if you do have a list of people please
> > respect
> > > > their privacy by
> > > > using a blank carbon copy, thanks.
> > > >
> > > > To keep this as uniform as possible, as you get
> > the
> > > > list put the
> > > > number that comes next on the list next to your
> > name
> > > > then forward it
> > > > back to me at
> > > > alignedwiththesource@y...
> > > > and to as many of your friends as possible
> > keeping
> > > > these instructions
> > > > with the list so that we can make sense of this
> > as
> > > > easily as
> > > > possible.
> > > >
> > > > Petition to change Title 14 section 1211 of the
> > > > federal Regulations,
> > > > by signing this petition you believe that this
> > law
> > > > should be changed
> > > > in order to allow and support a new law allowing
> > the
> > > > possibility of
> > > > open contact with other sentient and benevolent
> > > > beings throughout the
> > > > universe.
> > > >
> > > > 1. David R. Fichera
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Hi Dave,
I am in favor of this and in no way want to discourage
you. I would like to see this succeed. I applaud you
for your efforts!
Ismarelda
--- alignedwiththesource
<alignedwiththesource@...> wrote:
>
> I have gotten email petitions before and they held
> just as much
> validity as any signed thing as well, but my hopes
> were that possibly
> one might eventually print the dosument and begin
> obtaining
> signatures door to dooe as well. I will be doing so
> shortly. I had
> been working on this before this group was started
> and now that we
> have a group it will be so much easier to get
> suggestions on how to
> do this as logistically as possible.
> Dave
> --- In ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com, Ismarelda
> Adleramsi
> <ismarelda_adleramsi@y...> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I was under the impression and possibly wrongly
> so,
> > that in order for any petition to hold validity
> there
> > had to be actual legal signatures. Is that not
> true?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ismarelda
> >
> > --- alignedwiththesource
> > <alignedwiththesource@y...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Title 14 section 1211 of the federal
> regulations:
> > > If you should come into contact with a life form
> of
> > > any kind from off
> > > of
> > > your world, you are subject to quarantine, fine
> and
> > > imprisonment.
> > > This law was ostensibly created for the idea of
> > > preventing exposure
> > > to what
> > > you would call virulent alien organisms,
> pathogens,
> > > and such. This
> > > was implemented in 1969 when we landed on the
> moon,
> > > but the idea was stated broadly enough, with
> > > intention behind it,
> > > that it wasn't just relegated to the idea of
> > > pathogens but to any
> > > extraterrestrial life form whatsoever.
> > >
> > > Our idea is to change this law so that our
> nation
> > > and as many nations
> > > as possible throughout the world will also
> > > incorporate this change so
> > > then we can create a new law supporting the
> > > possibility of open
> > > contact. Our collective belief through
> obtaining
> > > signatures will
> > > then help us to script and then change the law
> to
> > > allow for the
> > > possibility of contact with benevolent beings.
> When
> > > we have the
> > > majority of the people on Earth acknowledging
> and
> > > accepting and
> > > approving of open contact with other sentient
> and
> > > benevolent beings
> > > throughout the universe then we can allow
> contact to
> > > occur when and
> > > where it should in a peaceful manner.
> > >
> > > I have created this document as a way to
> circulate a
> > > grand petition
> > > over the internet. As we collect more and more
> > > signatures I will
> > > eventually, with the help of others make a tally
> of
> > > how many people
> > > have actually signed this page.
> > >
> > > Also if you do have a list of people please
> respect
> > > their privacy by
> > > using a blank carbon copy, thanks.
> > >
> > > To keep this as uniform as possible, as you get
> the
> > > list put the
> > > number that comes next on the list next to your
> name
> > > then forward it
> > > back to me at
> > > alignedwiththesource@y...
> > > and to as many of your friends as possible
> keeping
> > > these instructions
> > > with the list so that we can make sense of this
> as
> > > easily as
> > > possible.
> > >
> > > Petition to change Title 14 section 1211 of the
> > > federal Regulations,
> > > by signing this petition you believe that this
> law
> > > should be changed
> > > in order to allow and support a new law allowing
> the
> > > possibility of
> > > open contact with other sentient and benevolent
> > > beings throughout the
> > > universe.
> > >
> > > 1. David R. Fichera
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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The only thing one has to be careful of with petitions is that signatures aren't
duplicated
and who will oversee that they aren't? Many petitions are rejected because of
that, and
because people make up names and addresses. If you do a door-to-door with
addresses
along with names, it would be more valid.
Nora
----- Original Message -----
From: alignedwiththesource
To: ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:28 PM
Subject: [ET_Contact_Law] Re: et law petition
I have gotten email petitions before and they held just as much
validity as any signed thing as well, but my hopes were that possibly
one might eventually print the dosument and begin obtaining
signatures door to dooe as well. I will be doing so shortly. I had
been working on this before this group was started and now that we
have a group it will be so much easier to get suggestions on how to
do this as logistically as possible.
Dave
--- In ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com, Ismarelda Adleramsi
<ismarelda_adleramsi@y...> wrote:
> Hello,
> I was under the impression and possibly wrongly so,
> that in order for any petition to hold validity there
> had to be actual legal signatures. Is that not true?
>
> Thanks,
> Ismarelda
>
> --- alignedwiththesource
> <alignedwiththesource@y...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Title 14 section 1211 of the federal regulations:
> > If you should come into contact with a life form of
> > any kind from off
> > of
> > your world, you are subject to quarantine, fine and
> > imprisonment.
> > This law was ostensibly created for the idea of
> > preventing exposure
> > to what
> > you would call virulent alien organisms, pathogens,
> > and such. This
> > was implemented in 1969 when we landed on the moon,
> > but the idea was stated broadly enough, with
> > intention behind it,
> > that it wasn't just relegated to the idea of
> > pathogens but to any
> > extraterrestrial life form whatsoever.
> >
> > Our idea is to change this law so that our nation
> > and as many nations
> > as possible throughout the world will also
> > incorporate this change so
> > then we can create a new law supporting the
> > possibility of open
> > contact. Our collective belief through obtaining
> > signatures will
> > then help us to script and then change the law to
> > allow for the
> > possibility of contact with benevolent beings. When
> > we have the
> > majority of the people on Earth acknowledging and
> > accepting and
> > approving of open contact with other sentient and
> > benevolent beings
> > throughout the universe then we can allow contact to
> > occur when and
> > where it should in a peaceful manner.
> >
> > I have created this document as a way to circulate a
> > grand petition
> > over the internet. As we collect more and more
> > signatures I will
> > eventually, with the help of others make a tally of
> > how many people
> > have actually signed this page.
> >
> > Also if you do have a list of people please respect
> > their privacy by
> > using a blank carbon copy, thanks.
> >
> > To keep this as uniform as possible, as you get the
> > list put the
> > number that comes next on the list next to your name
> > then forward it
> > back to me at
> > alignedwiththesource@y...
> > and to as many of your friends as possible keeping
> > these instructions
> > with the list so that we can make sense of this as
> > easily as
> > possible.
> >
> > Petition to change Title 14 section 1211 of the
> > federal Regulations,
> > by signing this petition you believe that this law
> > should be changed
> > in order to allow and support a new law allowing the
> > possibility of
> > open contact with other sentient and benevolent
> > beings throughout the
> > universe.
> >
> > 1. David R. Fichera
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I have gotten email petitions before and they held just as much
validity as any signed thing as well, but my hopes were that possibly
one might eventually print the dosument and begin obtaining
signatures door to dooe as well. I will be doing so shortly. I had
been working on this before this group was started and now that we
have a group it will be so much easier to get suggestions on how to
do this as logistically as possible.
Dave
--- In ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com, Ismarelda Adleramsi
<ismarelda_adleramsi@y...> wrote:
> Hello,
> I was under the impression and possibly wrongly so,
> that in order for any petition to hold validity there
> had to be actual legal signatures. Is that not true?
>
> Thanks,
> Ismarelda
>
> --- alignedwiththesource
> <alignedwiththesource@y...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Title 14 section 1211 of the federal regulations:
> > If you should come into contact with a life form of
> > any kind from off
> > of
> > your world, you are subject to quarantine, fine and
> > imprisonment.
> > This law was ostensibly created for the idea of
> > preventing exposure
> > to what
> > you would call virulent alien organisms, pathogens,
> > and such. This
> > was implemented in 1969 when we landed on the moon,
> > but the idea was stated broadly enough, with
> > intention behind it,
> > that it wasn't just relegated to the idea of
> > pathogens but to any
> > extraterrestrial life form whatsoever.
> >
> > Our idea is to change this law so that our nation
> > and as many nations
> > as possible throughout the world will also
> > incorporate this change so
> > then we can create a new law supporting the
> > possibility of open
> > contact. Our collective belief through obtaining
> > signatures will
> > then help us to script and then change the law to
> > allow for the
> > possibility of contact with benevolent beings. When
> > we have the
> > majority of the people on Earth acknowledging and
> > accepting and
> > approving of open contact with other sentient and
> > benevolent beings
> > throughout the universe then we can allow contact to
> > occur when and
> > where it should in a peaceful manner.
> >
> > I have created this document as a way to circulate a
> > grand petition
> > over the internet. As we collect more and more
> > signatures I will
> > eventually, with the help of others make a tally of
> > how many people
> > have actually signed this page.
> >
> > Also if you do have a list of people please respect
> > their privacy by
> > using a blank carbon copy, thanks.
> >
> > To keep this as uniform as possible, as you get the
> > list put the
> > number that comes next on the list next to your name
> > then forward it
> > back to me at
> > alignedwiththesource@y...
> > and to as many of your friends as possible keeping
> > these instructions
> > with the list so that we can make sense of this as
> > easily as
> > possible.
> >
> > Petition to change Title 14 section 1211 of the
> > federal Regulations,
> > by signing this petition you believe that this law
> > should be changed
> > in order to allow and support a new law allowing the
> > possibility of
> > open contact with other sentient and benevolent
> > beings throughout the
> > universe.
> >
> > 1. David R. Fichera
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Hello,
I was under the impression and possibly wrongly so,
that in order for any petition to hold validity there
had to be actual legal signatures. Is that not true?
Thanks,
Ismarelda
--- alignedwiththesource
<alignedwiththesource@...> wrote:
>
> Title 14 section 1211 of the federal regulations:
> If you should come into contact with a life form of
> any kind from off
> of
> your world, you are subject to quarantine, fine and
> imprisonment.
> This law was ostensibly created for the idea of
> preventing exposure
> to what
> you would call virulent alien organisms, pathogens,
> and such. This
> was implemented in 1969 when we landed on the moon,
> but the idea was stated broadly enough, with
> intention behind it,
> that it wasn't just relegated to the idea of
> pathogens but to any
> extraterrestrial life form whatsoever.
>
> Our idea is to change this law so that our nation
> and as many nations
> as possible throughout the world will also
> incorporate this change so
> then we can create a new law supporting the
> possibility of open
> contact. Our collective belief through obtaining
> signatures will
> then help us to script and then change the law to
> allow for the
> possibility of contact with benevolent beings. When
> we have the
> majority of the people on Earth acknowledging and
> accepting and
> approving of open contact with other sentient and
> benevolent beings
> throughout the universe then we can allow contact to
> occur when and
> where it should in a peaceful manner.
>
> I have created this document as a way to circulate a
> grand petition
> over the internet. As we collect more and more
> signatures I will
> eventually, with the help of others make a tally of
> how many people
> have actually signed this page.
>
> Also if you do have a list of people please respect
> their privacy by
> using a blank carbon copy, thanks.
>
> To keep this as uniform as possible, as you get the
> list put the
> number that comes next on the list next to your name
> then forward it
> back to me at
> alignedwiththesource@...
> and to as many of your friends as possible keeping
> these instructions
> with the list so that we can make sense of this as
> easily as
> possible.
>
> Petition to change Title 14 section 1211 of the
> federal Regulations,
> by signing this petition you believe that this law
> should be changed
> in order to allow and support a new law allowing the
> possibility of
> open contact with other sentient and benevolent
> beings throughout the
> universe.
>
> 1. David R. Fichera
>
>
>
>
>
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Title 14 section 1211 of the federal regulations:
If you should come into contact with a life form of any kind from off
of
your world, you are subject to quarantine, fine and imprisonment.
This law was ostensibly created for the idea of preventing exposure
to what
you would call virulent alien organisms, pathogens, and such. This
was implemented in 1969 when we landed on the moon,
but the idea was stated broadly enough, with intention behind it,
that it wasn't just relegated to the idea of pathogens but to any
extraterrestrial life form whatsoever.
Our idea is to change this law so that our nation and as many nations
as possible throughout the world will also incorporate this change so
then we can create a new law supporting the possibility of open
contact. Our collective belief through obtaining signatures will
then help us to script and then change the law to allow for the
possibility of contact with benevolent beings. When we have the
majority of the people on Earth acknowledging and accepting and
approving of open contact with other sentient and benevolent beings
throughout the universe then we can allow contact to occur when and
where it should in a peaceful manner.
I have created this document as a way to circulate a grand petition
over the internet. As we collect more and more signatures I will
eventually, with the help of others make a tally of how many people
have actually signed this page.
Also if you do have a list of people please respect their privacy by
using a blank carbon copy, thanks.
To keep this as uniform as possible, as you get the list put the
number that comes next on the list next to your name then forward it
back to me at
alignedwiththesource@...
and to as many of your friends as possible keeping these instructions
with the list so that we can make sense of this as easily as
possible.
Petition to change Title 14 section 1211 of the federal Regulations,
by signing this petition you believe that this law should be changed
in order to allow and support a new law allowing the possibility of
open contact with other sentient and benevolent beings throughout the
universe.
1. David R. Fichera
Hello and Greeting from Canada!
It's great to be a part of this group and I received e-mails for the first time
this morning. David---in response to
your comment about group mind, I had the same thoughts. Then connected through
the Drunvalo Mechelzidek (sp?) site the
fact that there is apparently some phenomenon happening in the advertising world
right now. When 7% of the population
knows about an idea or product, the next day 96% of the population knows about
it! I thought this might me handy
information in spreading the word about the E.T. Open Contact Law. I am now
researching to find out just how much
advertising would be needed to accomplish this and that links with your comment
about capital. My original idea was to
run half page or full page ads with a brief about the 'Law" and include a way
for people to clip out a portion for
signatures should they be necessary for those who require signatures in support
of such a law. I have also been doing
some research about the discussion of related topics at the United Nations. I
did this because at some point down the
road someone may want proof of E.T. existence or have a proposal thrown out on
this argument, and this is not proof but
at least justification. IN 1979, Prime Minister Gairy of Grenada introduced a
resolution calling for the establishment
of an agency to study UFO's on a global scale. In response, the "General
Assembly invites, interested Memeber States
to take appropriate steps to coordiinate on a national level scientific research
and investigation into
extra-terrestrial life, including unidentified flying objects and to inform the
Secretary-Genral of the observations,
research and evaluation of such activities." The U.N. has also set up two
agencies to study this issue: the
'Outer-Space Affairs Group" and the "Outer Space Committee". Further in 1992,
Mohammad Ramadan, President of of
Parasychology group at the United Nations was given the authority to collect
data on the world-wide crop circle
phenomenon. It would seem logical that at some point a resolution would need to
be passed at the U.N. and I guess it
doesn't hurt that the seed is planted. I submited a brief to the United Nations
Global Security Initiative, which takes
briefs from the public, then chooses some for their website. I have received
confirmation that they received my brief
and they they will make a decision as to whether to make it public soon and it
would then receive public comment. I
understand that they will also evaluate the brief. I will attach a copy of this
brief for the group when I learn how to
send attachments on the computer. I normally do not do this. Thanks Charlie
Hi Jeff (and everyone):
Yes, I'd like to see your research on the gov. regs.
Some thoughts: this effort, like everything else, is multi-level and
multi-dimensional; in other words, we have the obvious focus of
creating a new law through the mechanism of existing government
channels. That in itself is a challenge (i.e., it'll take an "act of
Congress"). Another opportunity this effort gives us is the exercise
of operating in the context of an experience which will be forthcoming
anyway as we evolve into higher and higher frequencies: and that is the
introduction of the experience of group mind. This occurred to me as
I received the first communications from the website and may be obvious
to anyone more savvy at the internet than I (not). To me, this is an
exciting prospect (not to mention the fond memories, distant though
they may be...).
Another thought, speaking of web domains and construction costs, etc.,
is the need to discuss the capitali$ation of our effort here as there
will be expenses that need to be addressed. Also, how to structure
the organization of various activities, e.g., identifying specific
individuals to manage and/or spearhead specific efforts, info
gathering, identifying sympathetic officials, hiring legislative or
(perish the thought) political consultants or even lobbyists, unless
yet another opportunity lurks here to stretch the 3D envelope with 5D
rules of play...
At some point, I could see us doing a conference call with those
interested to have a no holds barred discussion of "OK, what now?" or
maybe a chat room, tho I'd like the verbal exchange, personally. I'm
in Connecticut.
Ok, got to go. I'm turning into One...
David
On Friday, October 22, 2004, at 06:47 PM, Jeff Berkeley wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone:
>
> I am a long-time devotee of Bashar's, going back to 1986, and
> was very glad and enthused to "see" him (and Darryl, Erica and
> many of the old "gang") again on August 14th.
>
> As usual, the importance of Bashar's messages are head and
> shoulders beyond the media spin regarding the seemingly
> endless petty tribal squabbles our little blue-green world is so
> intensely engaged and the silly trivialities of "modern" human
> life. I'm sure you feel much as I do in this regard.
>
> So I've taken his message to heart and done my own research
> regarding the now-rescinded government regulations. I can mail
> you copies of the documents if you wish.
>
> Furthermore, I have reserved the web domains
> www.opencontactlaw.org and www.opencontactlaw.com for our
> use in this project and I welcome any and all who wish to
> contribute to its enhancement and development. I have quite a
> bit of web design background but would love to include any and
> all research, petitions, statements and any other content
> pertinent to this paramount endeavor.
>
> As of this writing, I have not paid for and set up a web host but
> that is of little matter. Thus, the sites are not active yet. I am
> setting aside a couple of days over the winter break to build both
> websites. Included will be an online petition like Bashar
> suggested. By then I am hoping to gather enough content to
> make it interesting and pertinent. Your contributions are
> welcome.
>
> Thank you for your consideration and efforts,
>
> Jeff Berkeley
>
>
>
>
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Hi Jeff - certainly, I am happy to link to you and share.
:-)
Nora
----- Original Message -----
From: Fractalier@...
To: ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ET_Contact_Law] Websites Regarding Open Contact Law
Hi Nora:
That's great. I checked out your page. Very nice and well done. We can set
up reprocal links and share. The more sites/pages/content regarding this issue,
the faster we can achieve what we are striving for.
Keep in touch,
Jeff
>
>Hi everyone - as a longtime "associate" and fan of Darryl's and Bashar's, I'm
glad to be part of this group.
>I also have a page dedicated to the open contact law on my web site, that I
put up the same night as the
>August session http://www.vibrani.com/opencontactlaw.htm I received emails
from many interested readers
>who would like to be informed about signing a petition, any news, and so on.
Can I refer them to this group?
>Thanks.
>(Elle) Nora Amrani
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Berkeley
> To: ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 3:47 PM
> Subject: [ET_Contact_Law] Websites Regarding Open Contact Law
>
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone:
>
> I am a long-time devotee of Bashar's, going back to 1986, and
> was very glad and enthused to "see" him (and Darryl, Erica and
> many of the old "gang") again on August 14th.
>
> As usual, the importance of Bashar's messages are head and
> shoulders beyond the media spin regarding the seemingly
> endless petty tribal squabbles our little blue-green world is so
> intensely engaged and the silly trivialities of "modern" human
> life. I'm sure you feel much as I do in this regard.
>
> So I've taken his message to heart and done my own research
> regarding the now-rescinded government regulations. I can mail
> you copies of the documents if you wish.
>
> Furthermore, I have reserved the web domains
> www.opencontactlaw.org and www.opencontactlaw.com for our
> use in this project and I welcome any and all who wish to
> contribute to its enhancement and development. I have quite a
> bit of web design background but would love to include any and
> all research, petitions, statements and any other content
> pertinent to this paramount endeavor.
>
> As of this writing, I have not paid for and set up a web host but
> that is of little matter. Thus, the sites are not active yet. I am
> setting aside a couple of days over the winter break to build both
> websites. Included will be an online petition like Bashar
> suggested. By then I am hoping to gather enough content to
> make it interesting and pertinent. Your contributions are
> welcome.
>
> Thank you for your consideration and efforts,
>
> Jeff Berkeley
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Yahoo! Groups Links
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Hi Nora:
That's great. I checked out your page. Very nice and well done. We can set up
reprocal links and share. The more sites/pages/content regarding this issue,
the faster we can achieve what we are striving for.
Keep in touch,
Jeff
>
>Hi everyone - as a longtime "associate" and fan of Darryl's and Bashar's, I'm
glad to be part of this group.
>I also have a page dedicated to the open contact law on my web site, that I put
up the same night as the
>August session http://www.vibrani.com/opencontactlaw.htm I received emails from
many interested readers
>who would like to be informed about signing a petition, any news, and so on.
Can I refer them to this group?
>Thanks.
>(Elle) Nora Amrani
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Berkeley
> To: ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 3:47 PM
> Subject: [ET_Contact_Law] Websites Regarding Open Contact Law
>
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone:
>
> I am a long-time devotee of Bashar's, going back to 1986, and
> was very glad and enthused to "see" him (and Darryl, Erica and
> many of the old "gang") again on August 14th.
>
> As usual, the importance of Bashar's messages are head and
> shoulders beyond the media spin regarding the seemingly
> endless petty tribal squabbles our little blue-green world is so
> intensely engaged and the silly trivialities of "modern" human
> life. I'm sure you feel much as I do in this regard.
>
> So I've taken his message to heart and done my own research
> regarding the now-rescinded government regulations. I can mail
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> websites. Included will be an online petition like Bashar
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Hi everyone - as a longtime "associate" and fan of Darryl's and Bashar's, I'm
glad to be part of this group.
I also have a page dedicated to the open contact law on my web site, that I put
up the same night as the
August session http://www.vibrani.com/opencontactlaw.htm I received emails from
many interested readers
who would like to be informed about signing a petition, any news, and so on. Can
I refer them to this group?
Thanks.
(Elle) Nora Amrani
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Berkeley
To: ET_Contact_Law@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 3:47 PM
Subject: [ET_Contact_Law] Websites Regarding Open Contact Law
Hello Everyone:
I am a long-time devotee of Bashar's, going back to 1986, and
was very glad and enthused to "see" him (and Darryl, Erica and
many of the old "gang") again on August 14th.
As usual, the importance of Bashar's messages are head and
shoulders beyond the media spin regarding the seemingly
endless petty tribal squabbles our little blue-green world is so
intensely engaged and the silly trivialities of "modern" human
life. I'm sure you feel much as I do in this regard.
So I've taken his message to heart and done my own research
regarding the now-rescinded government regulations. I can mail
you copies of the documents if you wish.
Furthermore, I have reserved the web domains
www.opencontactlaw.org and www.opencontactlaw.com for our
use in this project and I welcome any and all who wish to
contribute to its enhancement and development. I have quite a
bit of web design background but would love to include any and
all research, petitions, statements and any other content
pertinent to this paramount endeavor.
As of this writing, I have not paid for and set up a web host but
that is of little matter. Thus, the sites are not active yet. I am
setting aside a couple of days over the winter break to build both
websites. Included will be an online petition like Bashar
suggested. By then I am hoping to gather enough content to
make it interesting and pertinent. Your contributions are
welcome.
Thank you for your consideration and efforts,
Jeff Berkeley
Yahoo! Groups Links
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Hello Everyone:
I am a long-time devotee of Bashar's, going back to 1986, and
was very glad and enthused to "see" him (and Darryl, Erica and
many of the old "gang") again on August 14th.
As usual, the importance of Bashar's messages are head and
shoulders beyond the media spin regarding the seemingly
endless petty tribal squabbles our little blue-green world is so
intensely engaged and the silly trivialities of "modern" human
life. I'm sure you feel much as I do in this regard.
So I've taken his message to heart and done my own research
regarding the now-rescinded government regulations. I can mail
you copies of the documents if you wish.
Furthermore, I have reserved the web domains
www.opencontactlaw.org and www.opencontactlaw.com for our
use in this project and I welcome any and all who wish to
contribute to its enhancement and development. I have quite a
bit of web design background but would love to include any and
all research, petitions, statements and any other content
pertinent to this paramount endeavor.
As of this writing, I have not paid for and set up a web host but
that is of little matter. Thus, the sites are not active yet. I am
setting aside a couple of days over the winter break to build both
websites. Included will be an online petition like Bashar
suggested. By then I am hoping to gather enough content to
make it interesting and pertinent. Your contributions are
welcome.
Thank you for your consideration and efforts,
Jeff Berkeley
Hello Everyone,
I just found out about this new group a little while
ago. I joined right away because I am very excited
about this.
I hope this can be a forum for information exchange
that will enable us to be productive in this arena.
This is an important topic in an important time and I
am pleased that we are coming together to deal with
this issue.
I look forward to this!
Blessings,
Ismarelda
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From a Mother Jones article dated 9/16/97:
The Extraterrestrial Exposure Law, enacted by NASA on July 16, 1969
(the date of the Apollo-11 launch), provided fines of up to $5,000
and prison time of up to one year for anyone who violated strict
quarantine procedures after being "extraterrestrially exposed."....
UFO buffs note that the law has mysteriously vanished from the U.S.
Code of Federal Regulations, with only the cryptic legend "Reserved"
to be found where 14 CFR Part 1211 used to be. What happened, says
NASA public affairs specialist Elsie Weigel, is that NASA removed the
regulation in April 1991 "because we never found any aliens."
Officially, the Extraterrestrial Exposure Law "has served its purpose
and is no longer in keeping with our policy," NASA says.
NASA has "reserved" Section 1211, perhaps so that similar regulations
can be reinstated if the agency ever sends humans to another
celestial body, or brings back samples via an unmanned probe. If the
planned earthling mission to collect samples from Mars takes place on
schedule in year 2009, Americans may once again be subject to the
Extraterrestrial Exposure Law.
Until then, you have NASA's consent to be abducted by aliens and
return home quarantine-free.
(For the full article go to:
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/1997/09/etlaw.html)
Hi Everyone!
Welcome to the Extraterrestrial Contact Forum! To kick things off,
I'd like to post an excerpt from the Bashar channeling of August 14,
2004 regarding the message we received from Bashar about creating an
Extraterrestrial Open Contact Law:
Bashar: Now, let us begin with the following idea. We have discussed
with you a few times before the concept of contact between various
extraterrestrial civilizations and your own, and certainly as your
years go by, we are coming closer and closer to the time when such
contact can occur openly. We have in past transmissions talked about
the notion that by your year 2015 that the majority of people on your
planet will be, as we read it, aware of the existence of
extraterrestrials. Now, this can still happen in a number of ways. We
are not saying that open contact will happen by your year of 2015,
just that the majority of people on your planet will be aware of the
existence of extraterrestrials such as myself and others. But, toward
the idea of accelerating open contact, we would like at this time to
propose an activity if we may. May we?
Audience: Yes
Bashar: Are you sure?
Audience: Yes!
Bashar: Want to make sure that you actually want contact with us.
Alright. So then, remember that this contact is not in any way shape
or form because we will solve your problems, but because you have
accelerated your energy to the level at which you begin to understand
your ability to create the reality you desire, your ability to see
yourselves as equals to all beings in creation. It will be the result
of that, and any acceleration will occur because of that, because of
your actions, your involvement, your participation, your
responsibility, because it is your planet. And up to this point, our
civilization and other civilizations have taken, as you would say, an
arm's distance approach, not becoming involved in certain aspects of
your society because it is your world and we cannot interfere.
However, now, you have made enough shifts in your own vibrational
energy that we can begin to suggest some courses of action to
accelerate the idea of open contact. And so, since we are now allowed
to by the difference in your energy, we will do so, if you are ready
to participate. It will require your participation, and here is what
you would call the window of opportunity. Between your upcoming year
that you call 2005 and your year that you call 2012 will be the seven
year window for what we are about to suggest to be accomplished by
you. It is a seven year project. You can make it happen sooner, it's
up to you, but as we read the energy now it is alright if it takes
seven of your years. Alright? Alright.
Now. Some of you are aware that there exists now in what you call
your laws, your federal regulations, a law called the
Extraterrestrial Exposure Law. If you are familiar with this you will
understand that what it says in general, very broadly, is that if you
should come into contact with a life form of any kind from off of
your world, you are subject to quarantine, fine and imprisonment.
(Audience laughter.) You may look it up if you wish, Title 14,
section 1211 of the federal regulations of your country.
It was ostensibly created for the idea of preventing exposure to what
you would call virulent alien organisms, pathogens, and such. This
was implemented in your year of 1969 when you landed on your moon,
but the idea was stated broadly enough, with intention behind it,
that it wasn't just relegated to the idea of pathogens but to any
extraterrestrial life form whatsoever. So should there even then be
an opportunity for contact between any of you and any of us, you
would be then subjected by your own laws to fines and imprisonment,
and quarantine.
Now then. Since we deem that you would probably find this relatively
unpleasant, (audience laughter) we have stayed away, for the most
part. There are of course a few civilizations that have had sporadic
contact with individuals on your planet from time to time. We will
not go into the details of those specific cases now-- we are
addressing the idea of broad contact, open contact. That which, in
that sense, is acknowledged and welcomed by the majority of the
people on your planet.
So, here is your project. Either, and/or to alter the
Extraterrestrial Exposure law, so that it does not in any way create
a punitive action for contact with extraterrestrial life, but more
importantly that you create a new law, an open contact law. That each
and every one of you so willing begin from this day forward to get
together, research, investigate, learn, teach yourselves, educate
yourselves, and actually form the law itself.
Write it up, either as one of your initiatives, or a bill, and get it
passed by your government, that you will allow, acknowledge and
approve of open contact between your world and extraterrestrials who
have announced peaceful intentions of interaction with you. In this
way, when you create this law, have it officially backed, and get not
only your country but as many nations on your planet to sign on and
adopt this law as possible by 2012, it will go a long way toward
accelerating our ability to have open contact with you.
For the idea is that we must respect the laws that exist on your
planet because you have decided that those are the laws you will
abide by. And so if you are capable from 2005 to 2012 of creating an
open contact law, and getting the majority, the majority of people on
your planet, the majority of nations on your planet to adopt, to sign
on, to acknowledge and accept this law of open contact for all
extraterrestrials seeking open peaceful contact with you, that will
actually open the door for such contact because you, the majority of
you on your world, will have said that it is alright to do so, and
that will make all the difference in your world in our ability to
interact more and more openly with you.
Then, once that door has been opened, the only criteria remaining
that will determine the rate at which contact can then occur will
simply be the rate at which each and every one of you gets in touch
with your own fears, misgivings, trepidations, hesitations and doubts
about such contact and what it might mean for you personally, what it
might mean for you collectively. But then at least you will have
dropped one barrier to such contact, one very important barrier that
we must abide by, which is the rules you have deemed are the laws of
your world. Is this clear to you?
Audience: Yes
Bashar: Are you willing to do this?
Audience: Yes
Bashar: Are you willing to create such an open contact law?
Audience: Yes
Bashar: Are you willing to word it, are you willing to finesse it,
are you willing to work together, are you willing to collect the
hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, and
millions of signatures required for this law to pass in each nation
that is willing to pass it?
Audience: Yes.
Bashar: I can't hear you.
Audience: Yes!! (laughter)
Bashar: You do not have to be. We are not saying you must do this--
it's your planet, not ours. It's up to you, but now, now, from this
day forward, you can play an active hands-on role in determining when
such open contact is possible. You can be involved in this now. It's
not any longer out of your hands. It's squarely in your hands, as
well as in ours. Those of us who have hands, anyway. (Audience
laughter.) But it is up to you. We are placing this responsibility,
this challenge, in your lap. Work together.
We will, at the very least, check in with you in this manner once a
year, at least, to see how you are progressing. And we will add
guidance, we will tell you how things are changing because of what
you have done, we will keep you apprised of the shift in energy, but
you yourself will be able to feel that with your enthusiasm, with
your involvement, with your participation. Hands on, doing, acting,
creating, formulating, passionate about it if you are, show it, do it.
Now then, if one hundred of you get one hundred signatures each, and
each of them get one hundred signatures each, look how fast it will
grow. Perhaps you will beat the 2012 deadline by many, many years,
it's up to you, but I guarantee you this: when you have the majority
of your people acknowledging and accepting and approving of open
contact when and where it should occur in a peaceful manner, it can
be general in that sense, obviously you cannot make it too specific
because you don't necessarily know who open contact is going to
happen with first, or second, or third, but the idea of being WILLING-
- you don't even have to necessarily get people to believe that
extraterrestrials are talking to you, are visiting you, just when and
where it MIGHT happen someday, the idea is to be ready and willing
and able to interact, without fear of quarantine, punishment, fines
and so forth. Just the expression that you are willing to allow such
a thing to occur in an open, constructive, positive and peaceful
manner, will be enough to get a very, very, very large ball rolling.
Then we will take it from there.
This is the first step of truly working together. This is the first
step of honoring your place as a member of the Association of Worlds,
be that it may be honorary at the moment, but eventually one day, in
fact. If you will do this, and it is up to you, you will make that
day accelerate, and it will be here before you know it. Thank you. We
will see how you are doing in one orbit's time.
Copyright 2004, Darryl Anka