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Re: [EVP-ITC] What does it do?

 It's a freaking radio!  The tuning is swept across the entire band, AM or FM, the resulting bits of speech, music, and noise are used by the enitites as a raw material to build their voices from. The sweep can be linear, random, or manual, and it does not have to cover the entire broadcast band. This is one method and device for providing the raw audio, and if you're tesitng to see if it's just broadcast fragments, consider this-the concept is the same as EVPmaker, EVPmaker runs on a computer, the entities manipulate that raw audio inside the conmputer, and if you think stray RF is going to get inside the hard drive and mix with the audio file you have no clue how any technology works.
 
 Testing is irrelavent! It's not the device, it's the user. The messages received are for the user, and rarely does anyone hear the same thing as the original listener.
 
 
 You test it by use, you judge it by what comes through and what it means to you, you can't play the sound snipets to a panel of numbnuts(objective listeners)) and expect to get an unbiased/honest test. No two people hear the same, so an "objective listener" is an insult to most people doing this work.
 
 I know, I'm being harsh.
 
 Frank-S

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:20 AM, rasterer <rasterer@...> wrote:
 


Hey all, I've seen lots of people posting their perspectives and results and such about the Frank's Box. In order to help develop some good testing for it, I think the first step is to get a common or official consensus or statement on what it is the Frank's Box is claiming to be doing. This might seem a silly question, but I think it's important to make sure any testing doesn't go off in some irrevelevant direction.

Frank - or anyone - what is a good official statement on what the Frank's box can do?




Thu Jan 7, 2010 5:35 pm

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Hey all, I've seen lots of people posting their perspectives and results and such about the Frank's Box. In order to help develop some good testing for it, I...
rasterer
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Jan 7, 2010
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It's a freaking radio! The tuning is swept across the entire band, AM or FM, the resulting bits of speech, music, and noise are used by the enitites as a raw...
Frank Sumption
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Perhaps I am not being clear.  I am not asking how it works.  I am asking what you claim it does. For example, from your statements below, I get: "The...
Rj
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6:32 pm

I don't think any of us know really who or what the "entities" are. They have told a few people who they are, but given the propensity of some to lie, who...
Zack Widup
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6:40 pm

Thanks Zack.  So how do you see not asking it questions squaring with Frank's comment of "It's not the device, it's the user. The messages received are for...
Rj
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Jan 7, 2010
7:18 pm

Just a guess, since I don't have a lot of experience with this - probably the mesages are meant for one user and it's best if one user listens at a time. It...
Zack Widup
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7:25 pm

Yeah, I was wondering how Frank's statement that these are rarely heard by more than one person and only meant for the user, really supported the behavior of...
Rj
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Jan 7, 2010
7:55 pm

The fact that the operator CAN and DOES make recordings and files of understandable words and phrases shows that we are dealing with an OBJECTIVE rather than a...
Tom
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Jan 7, 2010
8:15 pm

Thanks Tom for your comments.  You say that different people listening to the recordings often here the same thing.  But Frank says that is rarely the...
Rj
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If other people could not hear the voices then the files would not be posted here. There are at least THREE things going on. 1) SOme voices are REAL and...
Tom
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I'm no expert, just a tinker-er, and my apologies for getting snippedy! There's just as many ways for the entities to make their voices as there is ...
Frank Sumption
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Hi Raster: I don't even rate tinkerer, I am a lurker I do have a question why do you say that it be only one voice? Deb...
Debra Yeung
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I don't think I said that, or didn't mean it. There is *not* just one way. Frank-S...
Frank Sumption
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Hi Deb.  I'm not trying to make any claims: I'm trying to determine what the claims are for the Frank's box.  And so I was asking the creator of the Frank's...
Rj
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hI RJ I know less than nothing, I've never used a box, wanted to for a long time but I neither have the skills nor know-how to do so. What I do have is an open...
Debra Yeung
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Deb, since people were saying that no two users would hear the same thing, that seemed to suggest that two users using the box at the same time would not work...
Rj
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I can't speak for Frank, But for myself. We Don't really KNOW how it works, but only that it DOES seem to work. I have at least three theories which would...
Tom
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So the entities are 'spirits'? Can you be more specific as to what you mean by 'spirits'? Maybe that also sounds like a dumb question, but I want to make sure...
Rj
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In the strictest scientific terms, what I mean by "spirits" are whatever apparrently "intellegent entities" that are the source of the percieved voices. We...
Tom
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So how would this be as a definition: "Intelligent communication from entities who are not living human beings?" ... From: Tom <Tom_Ray@...> ...
Rj
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I think it's completely subjective, which is why different people hear different things. Also why it will never be scientifically proven, or stand up against...
April Abercrombie
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What? How's that? To most people listening to the even the files posted here, it is just radio gibberish, or they hear their own thing, until someone else...
April Abercrombie
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Perhaps a compromise to these opinions is to consider that there are many devices, processes, and theories as to what works, what doesn't, what it does, and...
rasterer
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Jan 8, 2010
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Did you ever consider there are people who watch and learn ...not to make anyone paranoid. Maybe they will talk to me too & I am not messing with anyone here....
Andrea Carr
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